Re: (ngtrans) Re: v4 mapped multicast addresses

2000-09-06 Thread Mauro Tortonesi

On Wed, 6 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   please take a look at the following paper, it gives you a great detail
   about AF independent programming:
 .%A Craig Metz
 .%T Protocol Independence Using the Sockets API
 .%B "Proceedings of the freenix track: 2000 USENIX annual technical conference"
 .%D June 2000

where can i get this? can you point me to an URL? thanks.

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Re: v4 mapped multicast addresses

2000-09-06 Thread Erik Nordmark


 Forgive me if this has been discussed already, but should applications
 be able to use v4 mapped multicast addresses the same way they use
 v6 multicast addresses?  I have been working under the assumption
 that draft-ietf-ipngwg-rfc2553bis-00.txt intends just this, but
 there is at least one popular implementation that doesnt support
 this (yet).

I don't think this has been discussed much on the mailing list.
We did agree that for IPv4-compatible addresses it didn't make sense
at all to allow IPv4 multicast addresses.

Initially I didn't see the need for multicast addresses in the IPv4-mapped
space, but when folks did an implementation of the java.net classes that
transparently did IPv6 and IPv4 it was a real pain to make the multicast
class work without being able to 
always open an AF_INET6 socket
issue IPV6_JOINGROUP socket options with either a native IPv6
multicast address or an IPv4-mapped multicast address.
The alternative would have been to allow the IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP socket
option on AF_INET6 sockets.

I don't think this is necessary for real applications since they
presumably know whether they are using to use IPv6 or IPv4 multicast
before creating the socket.

   Erik


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Re: v4 mapped multicast addresses

2000-09-06 Thread Erik Nordmark


 I think we did discuss this is the past and concluded that the v4-mapped
 v6 addresses were only meaningful when carrying IPv4 non-loopback, unicast
 addresses.  Thus, the IPv6 node should not have to do multiple, different
 prefix checks to determine if an address is a multicast address or a
 loopback address.

I thought that discussion was for IPv4-compatible addresses.
Did we have the discussion for IPv4-mapped addresses as well?

  Erik



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