Re: [IPsec] Call for WG adoption: draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305

2015-03-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote:
 Greetings again. A few people have expressed interest in having 
 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305 as a WG item 
 for IPsecME. If you want this as a WG document, and you are willing to review 
 drafts as they move through, please say so on this thread. If you are opposed 
 to this being a WG document, please say so (and say why). Thanks in advance.

This got very little interest, which surprised me. Without a few more people 
who will commit to review the document and offer comments, we can't really call 
it a WG work item. Is there really so little interest in new algorithms that 
are being adopted in other protocols?

If you are an IPsec implementer, it would be very useful to know whether or not 
you would support adding this algorithm to your implementation, and why.

--Paul Hoffman
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Re: [IPsec] Call for WG adoption: draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305

2015-03-06 Thread Yoav Nir

 On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:01 PM, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote:
 
 On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote:
 Greetings again. A few people have expressed interest in having 
 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305 as a WG item 
 for IPsecME. If you want this as a WG document, and you are willing to 
 review drafts as they move through, please say so on this thread. If you are 
 opposed to this being a WG document, please say so (and say why). Thanks in 
 advance.
 
 This got very little interest, which surprised me. Without a few more people 
 who will commit to review the document and offer comments, we can't really 
 call it a WG work item. Is there really so little interest in new algorithms 
 that are being adopted in other protocols?
 
 If you are an IPsec implementer, it would be very useful to know whether or 
 not you would support adding this algorithm to your implementation, and why.
 

Obviously I’m in favor of adoption, as I’m the author.

[vendor hat on]
If (when?) this becomes an RFC, Check Point will implement this, in all 
likelihood this year or early next year.

I of course can’t promise dates or versions when this is delivered as a feature 
in our product - that is more of a UI decision, and out of my hands.

Yoav


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Re: [IPsec] Call for WG adoption: draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305

2015-03-06 Thread Paul Wouters

On Fri, 6 Mar 2015, Paul Hoffman wrote:


This got very little interest, which surprised me. Without a few more people 
who will commit to review the document and offer comments, we can't really call 
it a WG work item. Is there really so little interest in new algorithms that 
are being adopted in other protocols?

If you are an IPsec implementer, it would be very useful to know whether or not 
you would support adding this algorithm to your implementation, and why.


libreswan will add support for this algorithm in IKE and use the kernel
implementation for ESP.

Even with low interest, this should be taken on by the WG, or else we
will just get another private use number like SERPENT(252) or
TWOFISH(253) or KAME_NULL(251) that everyone will use.

Paul

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Re: [IPsec] Call for WG adoption: draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305

2015-03-06 Thread Jim Knowles
I've read the draft and favor adoption as a working group item.  Although I 
can't speak for my company, I would push for, and expect, support to be added 
to a future product release once reviewed and advanced.

Jim Knowles

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Subject: Re: [IPsec] Call for WG adoption: draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305

On Feb 26, 2015, at 2:11 PM, Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org wrote:
 Greetings again. A few people have expressed interest in having 
 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305 as a WG item 
 for IPsecME. If you want this as a WG document, and you are willing to review 
 drafts as they move through, please say so on this thread. If you are opposed 
 to this being a WG document, please say so (and say why). Thanks in advance.

This got very little interest, which surprised me. Without a few more people 
who will commit to review the document and offer comments, we can't really call 
it a WG work item. Is there really so little interest in new algorithms that 
are being adopted in other protocols?

If you are an IPsec implementer, it would be very useful to know whether or not 
you would support adding this algorithm to your implementation, and why.

--Paul Hoffman
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Re: [IPsec] Call for WG adoption: draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305

2015-02-26 Thread Valery Smyslov

Hi,

I support adoption this draft as WG document.

Valery Smyslov.

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Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 1:11 AM
Subject: [IPsec] Call for WG adoption: draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305


Greetings again. A few people have expressed interest in having 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305 as a WG 
item for IPsecME. If you want this as a WG document, and you are willing 
to review drafts as they move through, please say so on this thread. If 
you are opposed to this being a WG document, please say so (and say why). 
Thanks in advance.


--Paul Hoffman
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[IPsec] Call for WG adoption: draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305

2015-02-26 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. A few people have expressed interest in having 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-nir-ipsecme-chacha20-poly1305 as a WG item 
for IPsecME. If you want this as a WG document, and you are willing to review 
drafts as they move through, please say so on this thread. If you are opposed 
to this being a WG document, please say so (and say why). Thanks in advance.

--Paul Hoffman
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