Re: [IRCA] 21 OCT Victoria TP's Whoops, I did it again...

[Nick Hall-Patch]

954 at big gun levels 1436UT two men in Japanese...774 or 747 not as 
strong at this time.  Details later


At 14:22 21-10-15, you wrote:

1423 UTC -- massive LSR Boost!

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[IRCA] 21 OCT Victoria TP's Whoops, I did it again...

[R. Colin Newell]

1423 UTC -- massive LSR Boost!

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Re: [IRCA] 21 OCT Victoria TP's Whoops, I did it again...

[d1028gary]

954 buried as usual here in Seattle splatter, but 972 reached brief S9 levels 
from 1405-1415. 603-China and 657-Pyongyang also showed up weakly. The sunrise 
enhancement kick wasn't limited to Victoria. 
  
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA) 

  
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] 21 OCT Victoria TP's Whoops, I did it again... 

954 at big gun levels 1436UT two men in Japanese...774 or 747 not as 
strong at this time.  Details later 

At 14:22 21-10-15, you wrote: 
>1423 UTC -- massive LSR Boost! 
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[IRCA] TP 21 Oct Victoria version

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Quite a dud morning up until around 1400UTthen things started to 
fizz. (a domestic of note with North Korean style modulation was 
on 1110 splattering all around it as it came on at 1430UT)




pretty darn good audio (all of it understandable by a native speaker, 
at least briefly):



747 JOIB 1415UT, English lessons
774 JOUB 1415UT, sometimes matching 747 in strength with English lessons
954 JOKR two men in Japanese 1435UT
972 HLCA two men in Korean 1409UT


Reasonable audio  at  times during the period (much of it 
understandable by a native speaker, though often battling w/splash or noise):


567 JOIK two men in Japanese 1425UT, stronger than //594
594 JOAK man in Japanese 1414UT
837 JOQK man in Japanese 1400UT, no pips across hour; //594 which was 
much weaker

828 JOBB English lessons 1415UT
1053 Korean jammer 1358UT; sort of floated away 1402UT, though 
carrier remained strong

1143 Taiwan Fisheries woman in Chinese //738, 1429UT
1287 JOHR man in Japanese 1417UT
1566 HLAZ man in Chinese 1426UT



not so reasonable audio, occasional words or phrases in splash or 
noise could be understood by a native speaker:


873  JOGB Chinese lessons theme music 1359UT, pips, into English 
//774...did he really say "an SDR skill test"???

1242 JOLF woman in Japanese 1435UT





Burbles in the splatter and noise (if lucky, language might be 
guessed at by cadence of talk, or parallel established by changes in 
talk or music)


738 Taiwan Fisheries, woman talking //1143 1429UT
846 NHK1 light music //594 1430UT
864 HLKR woman "HL.." just before pips 1400UT
918 JOEF woman talking 1425UT, slightly delayed from parallel 1242
963 man talking 1411UT, too murky to guess language
1089 JOHB woman talking //747 1435UT, only briefly there in splash
1116 man talking 1412UT, didn't really sound  DU
1134 woman and man talking, Japanese?
1422 woman talking 1441UT, far too much splash to guess language


Strongish het, no or "near imaginary" audio (either undermodulated or 
ravaged by splatter)

603 639 909 945 1269 1314 1386 1593


best wishes,

Nick

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[IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 10-21

[d1028gary]

A dreary band in the predawn darkness was rescued somewhat by a potent sunrise 
enhancement boost after 1400, bringing the usual Japanese and Korean big guns 
up to respectable levels, and several second-tier Asians out of the noise. 
  
Around 1305 the Asians were anemic indeed, with only 1566-HLAZ managing fair 
audio in and out. During the predawn darkness all the NHK big guns seemed to be 
struggling to get out of the noise, and the Koreans on 972 and 1053 were 
missing in action. Things began to improve dramatically around 1400 when the 
Japanese on 594, 693, 747, 774 and 828 came out of the noise to reach fair to 
good levels in and out, while the Koreans on 972 and 1053 got a serious boost. 
Around 1405 both 603-China (with weak male-female Chinese speech, all alone 
without HLSA) and 657-Pyongyang managed fair audio peaks, while a presumed 
1134-KBS also came out of the noise with variety show programming sounding like 
972. Although the Japanese big guns followed Nick's script by staying at 
relatively modest levels 972-HLCA became pretty strong, with Korean female 
speech temporarily hitting a very good level around 1410. Neither 603-China nor 
657-Pyongyang could hold their fair strength for any length of time, though, 
and sunk into the noise around 1420. The Japanese big guns also bailed shortly 
thereafter, but 972-HLCA was still in audio as late as 1445 here-- pretty much 
unprecedented for this mediocre location so far this season. Overall the 
session was moderately interesting because of the dramatic sunrise enhancement 
boost-- which turned a clunker band into something pretty decent.   
972  HLCA   Dangjin, S. Korea   Korean female speech at very good level at 1410 
https://app.box.com/s/8t8k0ve0pa11fmfjnk4gsg76ohauzfpc   
  
73 and Good DX, 
Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) 
7.5" loopstick C.Crane Skywave Ultralight + 
15" FSL antenna 
  
  
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[IRCA] 21 OCT Victoria TP's Judge a book by its cover at your peril.

[R. Colin Newell]

As others have witnesses my 1255 UTC observation of plenty of nothing on
the bands turned to joy by
my second look at 1424UTC --

Starting at the bottom:

Audio snatches on 558, 567 (JJ), 594 (Huge JJ), 603 KK Murmurs,

612 (EE), 621 Massive het with near audio, 639 CC YL,

702 murmurs in the splash
729 Het on Vancouver (always think of it as CKLG - its 60's call sign...)
738 Murmurs, 747 BIG JJ,

828 Big JJ, 837 JJ, 846 Actual loud YL in something Not JJ, Not CC, not
Korea... vaguely Tagalog'ish... could it be?
Audio murmurs in the splash on 891 quite loud at times, 909, 918, 972 BIG
KK, 1017, 1026 that sounded quite Jam like...
1098 Big carrier low audio 1116 EE Talk 1143 YL CC Talk, 1242 JJ,
1386 JJ,

1566 and 1575 notable by  their "meh" lack of umph

All that in 7 minutes of observations.

Moral of the story (according to the YL.)
"Stop getting up so early... you need to get up 15 minutes before
sunrise..."

Receiver - Drake R8
Antennas - W/NW Flag + Wellbrook ALA100
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Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

[Chuck Hutton]

I think Mark has it 100% right. The Beverage actually has best gain straight up 
while the DKAZ is down maybe 7-10 dB at overhead angles.
Chuck 

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Subject: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 12:04:16 -0400
From: markwa1...@aol.com
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Subject: Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

 
Could the anomalous results be from the fact that sometimes at the sunrise or 
sunset transition you actually have higher angle pick-up for long haul because 
of a tilted ionospheric layer above the receiving site (enabling chordal / 
ducted mode propagation reducing the number of ground reflections)?
 
 
http://www.radtelnetwork.com.au/propagation/HFpropagation_files/img013.gif
 
 
An antenna that is efficient for high angles may briefly outperform otherwise 
superior long haul DX (i.e. low angle pick-up) antennas.
 
 
There used to be a station near Madrid, Spain on 1359 kHz that ran big power 
into a Near Vertical Incidence Skywave antenna (horizontal dipole?) to push out 
high angle skip to penetrate isolated valley areas between mountains.  Here in 
Massachusetts during mid-evening the station was no stronger than other high 
band Spain stations in the 5 to 10 kW class.  But as dawn reached Madrid, the 
signal came up and got crazy-loud, often the strongest station from across the 
"pond" at the time.
 
 
160-m hams have reported that they have brief periods when a low dipole or 
horizontal loop below quarter-wave height ("cloud burner") contacts DX that 
their big verticals or high-altitude beams or dipoles miss.  95% of the time 
it's the other way around of course.
 
 
Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA
 
 
<<
From: Walter Salmaniw 
 
 
700'
 
 
On Tuesday, 20 October 2015, Chuck Hutton
 wrote:
 
 
> Like Neil, I am curious about the length of the
BOG.And when you say you
> noted the same with the Wellbrook, do you mean it
lost out to a BOG or to a
> DKAZ?
> Chuck
>
> > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015
01:16:18 +
> > From: can...@gmail.com 
> > To:
neil...@earthlink.net ; irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 
>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP for 20 October from Masset
> >
> > Point is taken,
Neil. The Bog is about 300 deg while the DKAZ is aimed
> > about 220 deg. So
not exactly a perfect A B comparison.  I noted the same
> > years back using
the twin Wellbrook arrays.  Walt
> >
> > On Tuesday, 20 October 2015, neilkaz
 > wrote:
> >
> > > Walt " DKAZ worked
very well before LSR but really dies off after
> leaving
> > > the
> > > 
Bog"
> > >
> > > A big difference would surprise me since DKAZ is also good
for low
> arrival
> > > angles. What exact direction is the BOG and how
long?
> > > What exact direction is the DKAZ?
> > >
> > > 73 and thx ..
KAZ
>>
  
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[IRCA] East Coast (was: Avoiding QRM)

[Mark Connelly via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---

Welcome to the northeast Michael.


One way to figure things out is to look at loggings in the IRCA and NRC 
bulletins from those of us in the eastern Canada and northeastern USA regions.


Relatively near the seashore and fairly active are:
Allen Willie - NL
Brent Taylor - PEI
Sylvain Naud - QC
Bruce Conti - NH
Keith McGinnis - metro-Boston, MA
Mark Connelly, Marc DeLorenzo, Steve Wood - Cape Cod, MA


A bit farther inland but still able to bag Transatlantics and South Americans 
regularly:
Bob Young - central MA
Jim Renfrew - upstate NY
Ben Dangerfield - near Philadelphia, PA
Bill Whitacre - Delmarva


Neil Kazaross, when DXing from his Grafton, WI site (cliff over Lake Michigan) 
has almost-coastal-quality results sometimes too.


Reporters from other areas such as Florida will sometimes have tips that are 
relevant, especially regarding the western Caribbean zone.


One problem is that all this information is more scattered around than it used 
to be.


Being on several email lists, Yahoo groups, and Facebook is what you need to do 
to get all the useful information though much still shows up in the 
international and domestic columns of IRCA and NRC.


Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA


<<
Good luck in the new place Michael.  Maybe
contact Brent Taylor in 
PEI for some somewhat local colour.  And, is Jean
Burnell still in 
that part of the world, I wonder?)


(the spelling is
OK...it's from a Canadian to a Canadian about Canadians)


best
wishes,


Nick




At 00:43 20-10-15, you wrote:
>Hi all - I apologize for
not contributing to the group for quite a 
>while. My life got incredibly busy
and I wasn't really able to get 
>to the dials for the past several months. Not
only that but the 
>entire electrical infrastructure of Lions Bay appeared to
be 
>conspiring to ensure that nothing at all could be heard above the 
>noise
level even if I COULD get a few minutes to listen..
>
>I decided that I needed
to get more time to listen, AND I needed to 
>get rid of the QRM.
>
>So my
wife and I retired, sold our house and pretty much everything 
>we owned, and
packed what we kept into a 6X10 trailer, put the cats 
>in the back of the FJ
and are now comfortably living in a rental 
>home in Western Shore, Nova Scotia
while we look for somewhere 
>permanent to hang our antennas, er,  hats.
Everyday is Saturday. QRM 
>is almost non-existent. We've only been here a
couple of days so 
>haven't had any time yet to put out the wellbrook, but
intend to do 
>that in the next couple of days. Once we get into a permanent


>location hopefully I'll have some room for some antenna
experimentation.
>
>I hope that anyone who is on the east coast might be able
to give me 
>some listening tips, as I've never listened from here
before!
>
>Regards,
>
>Michael Yule
>>
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[IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

[Mark Connelly via IRCA]

--- Begin Message ---

Could the anomalous results be from the fact that sometimes at the sunrise or 
sunset transition you actually have higher angle pick-up for long haul because 
of a tilted ionospheric layer above the receiving site (enabling chordal / 
ducted mode propagation reducing the number of ground reflections)?


http://www.radtelnetwork.com.au/propagation/HFpropagation_files/img013.gif


An antenna that is efficient for high angles may briefly outperform otherwise 
superior long haul DX (i.e. low angle pick-up) antennas.


There used to be a station near Madrid, Spain on 1359 kHz that ran big power 
into a Near Vertical Incidence Skywave antenna (horizontal dipole?) to push out 
high angle skip to penetrate isolated valley areas between mountains.  Here in 
Massachusetts during mid-evening the station was no stronger than other high 
band Spain stations in the 5 to 10 kW class.  But as dawn reached Madrid, the 
signal came up and got crazy-loud, often the strongest station from across the 
"pond" at the time.


160-m hams have reported that they have brief periods when a low dipole or 
horizontal loop below quarter-wave height ("cloud burner") contacts DX that 
their big verticals or high-altitude beams or dipoles miss.  95% of the time 
it's the other way around of course.


Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South Yarmouth, MA


<<
From: Walter Salmaniw 


700'


On Tuesday, 20 October 2015, Chuck Hutton
 wrote:


> Like Neil, I am curious about the length of the
BOG.And when you say you
> noted the same with the Wellbrook, do you mean it
lost out to a BOG or to a
> DKAZ?
> Chuck
>
> > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015
01:16:18 +
> > From: can...@gmail.com 
> > To:
neil...@earthlink.net ; irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 
>
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP for 20 October from Masset
> >
> > Point is taken,
Neil. The Bog is about 300 deg while the DKAZ is aimed
> > about 220 deg. So
not exactly a perfect A B comparison.  I noted the same
> > years back using
the twin Wellbrook arrays.  Walt
> >
> > On Tuesday, 20 October 2015, neilkaz
 > wrote:
> >
> > > Walt " DKAZ worked
very well before LSR but really dies off after
> leaving
> > > the
> > > 
Bog"
> > >
> > > A big difference would surprise me since DKAZ is also good
for low
> arrival
> > > angles. What exact direction is the BOG and how
long?
> > > What exact direction is the DKAZ?
> > >
> > > 73 and thx ..
KAZ
>>
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Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

[neilkaz]

Actually a Bev has best gain straight up from directions perpendicular (+/- 90 
deg) to the main beam. 

I'd not expect that a good comparison could be made comparing an antenna at 300 
deg vs one at 220 deg. That being said, a 700 ft BOG is a very good antenna and 
I'd expect its more narrow beam to outperform a single DKAZ for it's intended 
direction.

Walt do you have room to array two DKAZ? ie consider 100 meters spacing side by 
side aimed 220 for a more narrow beam and to better reduce stateside and Asian 
QRM on DU channels.

73 KAZ

-Original Message-
>From: Chuck Hutton 
>Sent: Oct 21, 2015 11:35 AM
>To: "irca@hard-core-dx.com" 
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)
>
>I think Mark has it 100% right. The Beverage actually has best gain straight 
>up while the DKAZ is down maybe 7-10 dB at overhead angles.
>Chuck 
>
>To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>From: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>CC: markwa1...@aol.com
>Subject: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)
>Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:04:20 +
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>To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>Subject: Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)
>
> 
>Could the anomalous results be from the fact that sometimes at the sunrise or 
>sunset transition you actually have higher angle pick-up for long haul because 
>of a tilted ionospheric layer above the receiving site (enabling chordal / 
>ducted mode propagation reducing the number of ground reflections)?
> 
> 
>http://www.radtelnetwork.com.au/propagation/HFpropagation_files/img013.gif
> 
> 
>An antenna that is efficient for high angles may briefly outperform otherwise 
>superior long haul DX (i.e. low angle pick-up) antennas.
> 
> 
>There used to be a station near Madrid, Spain on 1359 kHz that ran big power 
>into a Near Vertical Incidence Skywave antenna (horizontal dipole?) to push 
>out high angle skip to penetrate isolated valley areas between mountains.  
>Here in Massachusetts during mid-evening the station was no stronger than 
>other high band Spain stations in the 5 to 10 kW class.  But as dawn reached 
>Madrid, the signal came up and got crazy-loud, often the strongest station 
>from across the "pond" at the time.
> 
> 
>160-m hams have reported that they have brief periods when a low dipole or 
>horizontal loop below quarter-wave height ("cloud burner") contacts DX that 
>their big verticals or high-altitude beams or dipoles miss.  95% of the time 
>it's the other way around of course.
> 
> 
>Mark Connelly, WA1ION
>South Yarmouth, MA
> 
> 
><<
>From: Walter Salmaniw 
> 
> 
>700'
> 
> 
>On Tuesday, 20 October 2015, Chuck Hutton
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> Like Neil, I am curious about the length of the
>BOG.And when you say you
>> noted the same with the Wellbrook, do you mean it
>lost out to a BOG or to a
>> DKAZ?
>> Chuck
>>
>> > Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015
>01:16:18 +
>> > From: can...@gmail.com 
>> > To:
>neil...@earthlink.net ; irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> 
>>
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] TP for 20 October from Masset
>> >
>> > Point is taken,
>Neil. The Bog is about 300 deg while the DKAZ is aimed
>> > about 220 deg. So
>not exactly a perfect A B comparison.  I noted the same
>> > years back using
>the twin Wellbrook arrays.  Walt
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, 20 October 2015, neilkaz
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Walt " DKAZ worked
>very well before LSR but really dies off after
>> leaving
>> > > the
>> > > 
>Bog"
>> > >
>> > > A big difference would surprise me since DKAZ is also good
>for low
>> arrival
>> > > angles. What exact direction is the BOG and how
>long?
>> > > What exact direction is the DKAZ?
>> > >
>> > > 73 and thx ..
>KAZ
>>>
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Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

[Walter Salmaniw]

Mark, I'll have to wait a few days since the body of your email doesn't
show on my iPhone. Walt

On Wednesday, 21 October 2015, Mark Connelly via IRCA 
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Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

[d1028gary]

Walt, 
  
The body of mark's message is pasted below. I used to have the same problem 
posting with AOL during DXpeditions, until Theo D. told me to try something 
else :-) 
  
73, Gary 
  
Pasted: 
  
Could the anomalous results be from the fact that sometimes at the sunrise or 
sunset transition you actually have higher angle pick-up for long haul because 
of a tilted ionospheric layer above the receiving site (enabling chordal / 
ducted mode propagation reducing the number of ground 
reflections)? 


http://www.radtelnetwork.com.au/propagation/HFpropagation_files/img013.gif 


An 
antenna that is efficient for high angles may briefly outperform otherwise 
superior long haul DX (i.e. low angle pick-up) antennas. 


There used to be a 
station near Madrid, Spain on 1359 kHz that ran big power into a Near Vertical 
Incidence Skywave antenna (horizontal dipole?) to push out high angle skip to 
penetrate isolated valley areas between mountains.  Here in Massachusetts 
during 
mid-evening the station was no stronger than other high band Spain stations in 
the 5 to 10 kW class.  But as dawn reached Madrid, the signal came up and got 
crazy-loud, often the strongest station from across the "pond" at the 
time. 


160-m hams have reported that they have brief periods when a low 
dipole or horizontal loop below quarter-wave height ("cloud burner") contacts 
DX 
that their big verticals or high-altitude beams or dipoles miss.  95% of the 
time it's the other way around of course. 


Mark Connelly, WA1ION 
South 
Yarmouth, MA 
- Original Message -

From: "Walter Salmaniw"  
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 
 
Cc: "Mark Connelly"  
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:23:16 AM 
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset) 

Mark, I'll have to wait a few days since the body of your email doesn't 
show on my iPhone. Walt 

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Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

[Walter Salmaniw]

Thanks, Gary for pasting Mark's comments.  I agree that the answer has to
be with the angle of arrival.  The vertical component must quickly die off
up here at dawn.  This, however did not seem to be the case in Grayland. As
I recall, John Bryant experimented with the 2 array delta Wellbrooks and
was very pleased with the results, including at dawn and post LSR, while I
have never had good results with them after my local SR.  The BOG, of
course, rocks during this time period.  73, Walt

On Wednesday, 21 October 2015,  wrote:

>
> Walt,
>
> The body of mark's message is pasted below. I used to have the same
> problem posting with AOL during DXpeditions, until Theo D. told me to try
> something else :-)
>
> 73, Gary
>
> Pasted:
>
> Could the anomalous results be from the fact that sometimes at the sunrise
> or
> sunset transition you actually have higher angle pick-up for long haul
> because
> of a tilted ionospheric layer above the receiving site (enabling chordal /
> ducted mode propagation reducing the number of ground
> reflections)?
>
>
> http://www.radtelnetwork.com.au/propagation/HFpropagation_files/img013.gif
>
>
> An
> antenna that is efficient for high angles may briefly outperform otherwise
> superior long haul DX (i.e. low angle pick-up) antennas.
>
>
> There used to be a
> station near Madrid, Spain on 1359 kHz that ran big power into a Near
> Vertical
> Incidence Skywave antenna (horizontal dipole?) to push out high angle skip
> to
> penetrate isolated valley areas between mountains.  Here in Massachusetts
> during
> mid-evening the station was no stronger than other high band Spain
> stations in
> the 5 to 10 kW class.  But as dawn reached Madrid, the signal came up and
> got
> crazy-loud, often the strongest station from across the "pond" at the
> time.
>
>
> 160-m hams have reported that they have brief periods when a low
> dipole or horizontal loop below quarter-wave height ("cloud burner")
> contacts DX
> that their big verticals or high-altitude beams or dipoles miss.  95% of
> the
> time it's the other way around of course.
>
>
> Mark Connelly, WA1ION
> South
> Yarmouth, MA
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Walter Salmaniw" >
> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" <
> irca@hard-core-dx.com >
> Cc: "Mark Connelly" >
> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:23:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from
> Masset)
>
> Mark, I'll have to wait a few days since the body of your email doesn't
> show on my iPhone. Walt
>
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[IRCA] TP from Masset for 21 Oct 2015

[Walter Salmaniw]

An unusual morning   Monitored from 13:25 to past 17:00.  Highlights as
follows:

1026. Filipino at armchair level by 14:20. Rapid fire Tagolog, with
frequent "news flash"

1125. Filipino.  Religious  so assumed FEBC DWAS, but later heard Super
Radyo making this DXGM. Over 40 min until s off at 15:03 with NA. Might
have heard both stations.

1062. Excellent reception of DZEC at 15:26. At 16:00 expected same but
heard ABC fanfare! Either  ABC Riverland or ABC Far North.  Both only 2
kW.  Surprising since it wasn't a DU morning.  Ie. 612, 116 etc were not
there.

1205 (not 1206). CNR 1 with multi site echo at 15:45. Better than 1206
strength.  Not listed in my PAL, but noted in Grayland master list from
several years ago.

774. Filipino going strong at 16:16

Noted that there was a minimal post LSR enhancement.  I didn't think that
Asians were super strong.  Neither were there many, barely any, DU
stations.  Hawaiians were fair, with 940 being my bell weather station.
Later only heard on SW DKAZ.  73, from sunny Masset!  Walt
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Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

[Walter Salmaniw]

I think I have my angles wrong after reading Chuck's posting.  Change the
vertical to horizontal, should correct the post.  Sorry!  Walt

On Wednesday, 21 October 2015, Walter Salmaniw  wrote:

> Thanks, Gary for pasting Mark's comments.  I agree that the answer has to
> be with the angle of arrival.  The vertical component must quickly die off
> up here at dawn.  This, however did not seem to be the case in Grayland. As
> I recall, John Bryant experimented with the 2 array delta Wellbrooks and
> was very pleased with the results, including at dawn and post LSR, while I
> have never had good results with them after my local SR.  The BOG, of
> course, rocks during this time period.  73, Walt
>
> On Wednesday, 21 October 2015,  > wrote:
>
>>
>> Walt,
>>
>> The body of mark's message is pasted below. I used to have the same
>> problem posting with AOL during DXpeditions, until Theo D. told me to try
>> something else :-)
>>
>> 73, Gary
>>
>> Pasted:
>>
>> Could the anomalous results be from the fact that sometimes at the
>> sunrise or
>> sunset transition you actually have higher angle pick-up for long haul
>> because
>> of a tilted ionospheric layer above the receiving site (enabling chordal /
>> ducted mode propagation reducing the number of ground
>> reflections)?
>>
>>
>> http://www.radtelnetwork.com.au/propagation/HFpropagation_files/img013.gif
>>
>>
>> An
>> antenna that is efficient for high angles may briefly outperform otherwise
>> superior long haul DX (i.e. low angle pick-up) antennas.
>>
>>
>> There used to be a
>> station near Madrid, Spain on 1359 kHz that ran big power into a Near
>> Vertical
>> Incidence Skywave antenna (horizontal dipole?) to push out high angle
>> skip to
>> penetrate isolated valley areas between mountains.  Here in Massachusetts
>> during
>> mid-evening the station was no stronger than other high band Spain
>> stations in
>> the 5 to 10 kW class.  But as dawn reached Madrid, the signal came up and
>> got
>> crazy-loud, often the strongest station from across the "pond" at the
>> time.
>>
>>
>> 160-m hams have reported that they have brief periods when a low
>> dipole or horizontal loop below quarter-wave height ("cloud burner")
>> contacts DX
>> that their big verticals or high-altitude beams or dipoles miss.  95% of
>> the
>> time it's the other way around of course.
>>
>>
>> Mark Connelly, WA1ION
>> South
>> Yarmouth, MA
>> - Original Message -
>>
>> From: "Walter Salmaniw" 
>> To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" <
>> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
>> Cc: "Mark Connelly" 
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:23:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from
>> Masset)
>>
>> Mark, I'll have to wait a few days since the body of your email doesn't
>> show on my iPhone. Walt
>>
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>> irca@hard-core-dx.com>
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Re: [IRCA] [coastalroundtable] TP from Masset for 21 Oct 2015

[Chuck Hutton]

Walt -
1062: Riverland is in South Australia so is offset 30 minutes. You could only 
have heard Thursday Island, our normal occupant of 1062.
1125: DWAS signs off at 1300 but you didn't say when you heard the religion..
1205: There's 1 log in the Grayland Master but I think it is a typo and should 
be 1206. There's never been anything on 1205 as best I know.
Chuck

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  An unusual morning   Monitored from 13:25 to past 17:00.  Highlights as 
follows:

1026. Filipino at armchair level by 14:20. Rapid fire Tagolog, with frequent 
"news flash"
1125. Filipino.  Religious  so assumed FEBC DWAS, but later heard Super Radyo 
making this DXGM. Over 40 min until s off at 15:03 with NA. Might have heard 
both stations.
1062. Excellent reception of DZEC at 15:26. At 16:00 expected same but heard 
ABC fanfare! Either  ABC Riverland or ABC Far North.  Both only 2 kW.  
Surprising since it wasn't a DU morning.  Ie. 612, 116 etc were not there.
1205 (not 1206). CNR 1 with multi site echo at 15:45. Better than 1206 
strength.  Not listed in my PAL, but noted in Grayland master list from several 
years ago.
774. Filipino going strong at 16:16
Noted that there was a minimal post LSR enhancement.  I didn't think that 
Asians were super strong.  Neither were there many, barely any, DU stations.  
Hawaiians were fair, with 940 being my bell weather station.  Later only heard 
on SW DKAZ.  73, from sunny Masset!  Walt





 


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Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ

[Theo]

Yeah, right on.  Blame me... 

It's bee-kaws some email software (M$...) creates messages as .eml 
files, rather than transmitting as simple text -- and some receiving 
email software doesn't know how to natively handle that file type.


(Right, Guy?)

TD

On 21/10/2015 2:56 PM, d1028g...@comcast.net wrote:

Walt,
   
The body of mark's message is pasted below. I used to have the same problem posting with AOL during DXpeditions, until Theo D. told me to try something else :-)
   
73, Gary
   
Pasted:
   
Could the anomalous results be from the fact that sometimes at the sunrise or

sunset transition you actually have higher angle pick-up for long haul because
of a tilted ionospheric layer above the receiving site (enabling chordal /
ducted mode propagation reducing the number of ground
reflections)?


http://www.radtelnetwork.com.au/propagation/HFpropagation_files/img013.gif


An
antenna that is efficient for high angles may briefly outperform otherwise
superior long haul DX (i.e. low angle pick-up) antennas.


There used to be a
station near Madrid, Spain on 1359 kHz that ran big power into a Near Vertical
Incidence Skywave antenna (horizontal dipole?) to push out high angle skip to
penetrate isolated valley areas between mountains.  Here in Massachusetts during
mid-evening the station was no stronger than other high band Spain stations in
the 5 to 10 kW class.  But as dawn reached Madrid, the signal came up and got
crazy-loud, often the strongest station from across the "pond" at the
time.


160-m hams have reported that they have brief periods when a low
dipole or horizontal loop below quarter-wave height ("cloud burner") contacts DX
that their big verticals or high-altitude beams or dipoles miss.  95% of the
time it's the other way around of course.


Mark Connelly, WA1ION
South
Yarmouth, MA
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From: "Walter Salmaniw" 
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" 

Cc: "Mark Connelly" 
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:23:16 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Beverage versus DKAZ (was: TP for 20 October from Masset)

Mark, I'll have to wait a few days since the body of your email doesn't
show on my iPhone. Walt

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[IRCA] AM BCB DX…Latest ELAD Captures…2 NEW STNS Logged

[Robert Ross]

Hi Guys:

   Well…I'm 300 Gigs behind in reviewing ELAD Files…but luckily I have a 4 TB 
Hard Drive for storage, so I guess there is no need to panic yet!! HHAHHAHA.

This latest batch of Loggings is for Oct/03-Oct/06 and netted me 2 NEW Stations 
and some interesting Relogs. I also have 1 UNID that I figured should be 
IDable…but I can't find anything that fits. If anyone recognizes this ID I 
heard….I'd be happy to hear your thoughts on it!!

RECEIVER…….ELAD FDM-S2 SDR

ANTENNA……100 Foot Longwire

AM BCB TOTALS are now 1,622 Stations Logged

73…ROB VA3SW

Robert S. Ross
London, Ontario CANADA

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1400  WGTN  Georgetown, SOUTH CAROLINA  Oct/04/15  2059 EDT  EE  FAIR
FOX SPORTS RADIO ID @ 2059 EDT. Also ID as "WGTN - Georgetown and 
WOBJ ?? Georgetown". Into FOX News @ 2100 EDT.

NEW STN GRAVEYARDER # 1671kW 673 Miles
ROSS, ON.
***
930  WTAD  Quincy, ILLINOIS  Oct/05/15  2100 EDTEEFAIR
ID by Male DJ @ 2100 EDT as "This is Talk Radio 930 WTAD". Into Talk.

NEW STN   5/1 kW
ROSS, ON.
***
1450  UNID  Oct/05/15   2100 EDTEE FAIR
ID by Male DJ @ 2100 EDT as "Peoria's 1450". 
(Not sure if Peoria, ILLINOIS?? or some other State??)

UNID
ROSS, ON.
***
1250  WGAM  Manchester, NEW HAMPSHIRE  Oct/03/15   2300 EDT   EE   FAIR
ID by Male DJ @ 2300 EDT as "ESPN Radio WGAM Manchester and WGHM
Nashua". Into ESPN Sports Talk.

RELOG  5 kW
ROSS, ON.
***
1590  WARV  Warwick, RHODE ISLAND  Oct/05/15  2059 EDT EE   GOOD
ID by Male DJ @ 2059 EDT as "LIfe Saving Radio - 1590 AM WARV 
Warwick/Providence". Into News @ 2100 EDT.

RELOG5 kW
ROSS, ON.
***
1430  WNSW Newark, NEW JERSEYOct/06/15  0059 EDT   EE  GOOD
Repeated IDs as "Relevant Radio" by Male and Female DJs. Mentioned that
they were TESTING!! EWTN Promos and IDs. "Relevant Radio-New Jersey"
IDS.

RELOG   10/7 kW
ROSS, ON.
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1590  WKPT  Jonesborough, TENNESSEE  Oct/06/15  0459 EDTEEFAIR
ID by Male DJ @ 0459 EDT as "ESPN Radio for the Tri-Cities  - WKPT" Also 
Mentioned 94.3 FM and other Freqs as well.

RELOG  5 kW
ROSS, ON.
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Re: [IRCA] TP from Masset for 21 Oct 2015

[Walter Salmaniw]

A huge thank you, Chuck!  Thursday Island it is.  Can't be DWAS, I guess,
since it was around 14:30 and after.  But religion on DXGM?  So, why is CNR
1 on 1205?  And has anyone noticed that before?  I'll need to check
tomorrow again.  73,  Walt

On Wednesday, 21 October 2015, Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Walt -
> 1062: Riverland is in South Australia so is offset 30 minutes. You could
> only have heard Thursday Island, our normal occupant of 1062.
> 1125: DWAS signs off at 1300 but you didn't say when you heard the
> religion..
> 1205: There's 1 log in the Grayland Master but I think it is a typo and
> should be 1206. There's never been anything on 1205 as best I know.
> Chuck
>
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com 
> From: coastalroundta...@yahoogroups.com 
> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 22:09:34 +
> Subject: [coastalroundtable] TP from Masset for 21 Oct 2015
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   An unusual morning   Monitored from 13:25 to past 17:00.  Highlights
> as follows:
>
> 1026. Filipino at armchair level by 14:20. Rapid fire Tagolog, with
> frequent "news flash"
> 1125. Filipino.  Religious  so assumed FEBC DWAS, but later heard Super
> Radyo making this DXGM. Over 40 min until s off at 15:03 with NA. Might
> have heard both stations.
> 1062. Excellent reception of DZEC at 15:26. At 16:00 expected same but
> heard ABC fanfare! Either  ABC Riverland or ABC Far North.  Both only 2
> kW.  Surprising since it wasn't a DU morning.  Ie. 612, 116 etc were not
> there.
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> Noted that there was a minimal post LSR enhancement.  I didn't think that
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[IRCA] WWV Solar Report

[NOAA WWV]

:Product: Geophysical Alert Message wwv.txt
:Issued: 2015 Oct 22 0005 UTC
# Prepared by the US Dept. of Commerce, NOAA, Space Weather Prediction Center
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#  Geophysical Alert Message
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Solar-terrestrial indices for 21 October follow.
Solar flux 129 and estimated planetary A-index 12.
The estimated planetary K-index at  UTC on 22 October was 2.
No space weather storms were observed for the past 24 hours.
No space weather storms are predicted for the next 24 hours.

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Date 20   20   20   20   20   21   21   21   21   21   21   21   21   22
UTC  0900 1200 1500 1800 2100  0300 0600 0900 1200 1500 1800 2100 
SFlx 124  124  124  124  123  123  123  123  123  123  123  123  129  129
A-in 55449999999912   12
K-in 22323213144222
Current Solar information available at http://www.am-dx.com/wwv.htm



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[IRCA] Oct 21 - *sneak* preview Victoria area TP's

[R. Colin Newell]

1255 UTC and on...

Like a cop to a crowd at a routine car accident...

"Nothing to see here folks..."

A few carriers. Nothing in audio. Back to bed I think.

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*Colin Newell is the Editor and creator of Coffeecrew.com
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[IRCA] DZEC 1062

[canswl]

After Colin asked about doing some video of my DX up here in Masset, here's a 
test of my efforts from this morning.  Comments welcome!  73, Walt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTuTGN6iZj8


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Re: [IRCA] New logging

[Paul B. Walker, Jr.]

Yup, definately KYND.. if you want a QSL, i'm good friends with their GM
and can connect you two.

Sign off in mid sentence happens because they're carrying a feed from
elsewhereand the transmtiter is on a timer.

Paul

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Steve Francis via IRCA <
irca@hard-core-dx.com> wrote:

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> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 23:20:40 -0400
> Subject: New logging
> 1520   KYND   Cypress, Texas
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> October 8   8:00 pm EDT
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> Atop ending rock vocal, then "You've been listening to programming
> provided by GNE studios ... send us
> an email at tellmydj.com ... ", the same China Radio International spiel
> I've heard dozens of times on CHIN
> whilst vainly trying to hear some overnight DX on 1540.  Easily heard
> again the next two nights at this time
> over KOKC; nothing said after the announcement, which is sometimes cut off
> in mid-sentence.  No ID, but
> there are no other known GNE affiliates on 1520.  Glenn Hauser in DX
> Listening Digest said that KYND is
> QRMing KOKC at sunrise and sunset in Enid OK and suspects they're
> off-pattern.  25kw daytimer with
> 18kw Critical Hours, same East-favoring pattern.  TX #115, no call changes.
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