Re: [IRCA] 1710 mystery station

2018-02-09 Thread Stan Horzepa

Thank you for the info, Marc.

73,

Stan, WA1LOU

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[IRCA] 1710 mystery station

2018-02-09 Thread Marc DeLorenzo via IRCA
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Stan-
 
FYI, this station has also been heard by a friend of mine in Newington, CT.  
All he hears is music, no announcements.  He hears it at night.  I'm not sure 
if he has checked during the day.
 

Marc DeLorenzo 
South Dennis, Cape Cod, Massachusetts
 http://forums.wtfda.org/showthread.php?228-DeLorenzo-s-Classic-DX
 

 
 
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Subject: [IRCA] 1710 mystery station

We lost power here for about 30 minutes this afternoon, so what did I 
do? Chop wood for the fireplace? No, I got on the radio!

Logged six new navigational beacons on LW and then I moved over to the 
AM band and heard a mystery station on 1710. All I heard was Spanish 
music - no voice - so no station identification. Station was stronger on 
my vertical antenna as compared to my 80-meter inverted Vee. At times, 
the Hudson County (NJ) TIS competed with the Spanish music station on 
both antennas. And as soon as power was restored, the station 
disappeared into the noise.

I have heard this station occasionally at dusk, but have had no luck 
identifying it.

Anyone have a clue?

73,

Stan, WA1LOU
Wolcott, CT, USA

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 mystery station

2018-02-09 Thread Stan Horzepa
Next time I am on the road near NYC, I will be sure to keep the car 
radio tuned to 1710.


73,

Stan, WA1LOU


On 2/9/18 3:00 PM, Russ Edmunds wrote:

Almost certainly one of the NYC pirates. Some of those have been there for
years.

Probably someone whois closer than I might be able to help with which one.

Russ Edmunds
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On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Stan Horzepa  wrote:


Hi Les,

In the past as today, this station plays music most of the time and seldom
has any voice. Also, the station is as weak as my Spanish, so I might miss
an ID even if they gave one.

73,

Stan, WA1LOU


On 2/9/18 2:39 PM, Les Rayburn wrote:


Stan,

Hmm…my first guess would be the pirate station in Baton Rogue, LA that
gets out very well at night. It’s Spanish language, and they rarely
identify. But a daytime reception over that distance would be unusual.

Maybe a Spanish language pirate from NYC? I remember there was one in
Brooklyn a few years back.


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

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Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.

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On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Stan Horzepa  wrote:

We lost power here for about 30 minutes this afternoon, so what did I
do? Chop wood for the fireplace? No, I got on the radio!

Logged six new navigational beacons on LW and then I moved over to the
AM band and heard a mystery station on 1710. All I heard was Spanish music
- no voice - so no station identification. Station was stronger on my
vertical antenna as compared to my 80-meter inverted Vee. At times, the
Hudson County (NJ) TIS competed with the Spanish music station on both
antennas. And as soon as power was restored, the station disappeared into
the noise.

I have heard this station occasionally at dusk, but have had no luck
identifying it.

Anyone have a clue?

73,

Stan, WA1LOU
Wolcott, CT, USA

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 mystery station

2018-02-09 Thread Russ Edmunds
Almost certainly one of the NYC pirates. Some of those have been there for
years.

Probably someone whois closer than I might be able to help with which one.

Russ Edmunds
15 mi NW Phila
Grid FN20id


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modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip


On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 2:56 PM, Stan Horzepa  wrote:

> Hi Les,
>
> In the past as today, this station plays music most of the time and seldom
> has any voice. Also, the station is as weak as my Spanish, so I might miss
> an ID even if they gave one.
>
> 73,
>
> Stan, WA1LOU
>
>
> On 2/9/18 2:39 PM, Les Rayburn wrote:
>
>> Stan,
>>
>> Hmm…my first guess would be the pirate station in Baton Rogue, LA that
>> gets out very well at night. It’s Spanish language, and they rarely
>> identify. But a daytime reception over that distance would be unusual.
>>
>> Maybe a Spanish language pirate from NYC? I remember there was one in
>> Brooklyn a few years back.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> EM63nf
>>
>> Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.
>>
>> Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon
>> TU-1500RD, Sangean HDT-1, Ray Dees RDS Decoders,
>> Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop,
>> Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.
>>
>> “Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else’s favorite song…”
>>
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Stan Horzepa  wrote:
>>>
>>> We lost power here for about 30 minutes this afternoon, so what did I
>>> do? Chop wood for the fireplace? No, I got on the radio!
>>>
>>> Logged six new navigational beacons on LW and then I moved over to the
>>> AM band and heard a mystery station on 1710. All I heard was Spanish music
>>> - no voice - so no station identification. Station was stronger on my
>>> vertical antenna as compared to my 80-meter inverted Vee. At times, the
>>> Hudson County (NJ) TIS competed with the Spanish music station on both
>>> antennas. And as soon as power was restored, the station disappeared into
>>> the noise.
>>>
>>> I have heard this station occasionally at dusk, but have had no luck
>>> identifying it.
>>>
>>> Anyone have a clue?
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Stan, WA1LOU
>>> Wolcott, CT, USA
>>>
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Re: [IRCA] 1710 mystery station

2018-02-09 Thread Stan Horzepa

Hi Les,

In the past as today, this station plays music most of the time and 
seldom has any voice. Also, the station is as weak as my Spanish, so I 
might miss an ID even if they gave one.


73,

Stan, WA1LOU


On 2/9/18 2:39 PM, Les Rayburn wrote:

Stan,

Hmm…my first guess would be the pirate station in Baton Rogue, LA that gets out 
very well at night. It’s Spanish language, and they rarely identify. But a 
daytime reception over that distance would be unusual.

Maybe a Spanish language pirate from NYC? I remember there was one in Brooklyn 
a few years back.


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

Member WTFDA, IRCA, NRC. Former CPC Chairman for NRC & IRCA.

Elad FDM-S2 SDR, AirSpy SDR2, SDRPlay RSP-2 Pro, Sony XDR-F1HD, Dennon 
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Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, 
Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip.

“Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else’s favorite song…”



On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Stan Horzepa  wrote:

We lost power here for about 30 minutes this afternoon, so what did I do? Chop 
wood for the fireplace? No, I got on the radio!

Logged six new navigational beacons on LW and then I moved over to the AM band 
and heard a mystery station on 1710. All I heard was Spanish music - no voice - 
so no station identification. Station was stronger on my vertical antenna as 
compared to my 80-meter inverted Vee. At times, the Hudson County (NJ) TIS 
competed with the Spanish music station on both antennas. And as soon as power 
was restored, the station disappeared into the noise.

I have heard this station occasionally at dusk, but have had no luck 
identifying it.

Anyone have a clue?

73,

Stan, WA1LOU
Wolcott, CT, USA

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 mystery station

2018-02-09 Thread Les Rayburn
Stan,

Hmm…my first guess would be the pirate station in Baton Rogue, LA that gets out 
very well at night. It’s Spanish language, and they rarely identify. But a 
daytime reception over that distance would be unusual. 

Maybe a Spanish language pirate from NYC? I remember there was one in Brooklyn 
a few years back. 


73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

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Korner 9.2 Antenna, FM-6 Antenna, Quantum Phaser, Wellbrook ALA1530 Loop, 
Wellbrook Flag, Clifton Labs Active Whip. 

“Nothing but blues and Elvis, and somebody else’s favorite song…” 


> On Feb 9, 2018, at 1:32 PM, Stan Horzepa  wrote:
> 
> We lost power here for about 30 minutes this afternoon, so what did I do? 
> Chop wood for the fireplace? No, I got on the radio!
> 
> Logged six new navigational beacons on LW and then I moved over to the AM 
> band and heard a mystery station on 1710. All I heard was Spanish music - no 
> voice - so no station identification. Station was stronger on my vertical 
> antenna as compared to my 80-meter inverted Vee. At times, the Hudson County 
> (NJ) TIS competed with the Spanish music station on both antennas. And as 
> soon as power was restored, the station disappeared into the noise.
> 
> I have heard this station occasionally at dusk, but have had no luck 
> identifying it.
> 
> Anyone have a clue?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Stan, WA1LOU
> Wolcott, CT, USA
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[IRCA] 1710 mystery station

2018-02-09 Thread Stan Horzepa
We lost power here for about 30 minutes this afternoon, so what did I 
do? Chop wood for the fireplace? No, I got on the radio!


Logged six new navigational beacons on LW and then I moved over to the 
AM band and heard a mystery station on 1710. All I heard was Spanish 
music - no voice - so no station identification. Station was stronger on 
my vertical antenna as compared to my 80-meter inverted Vee. At times, 
the Hudson County (NJ) TIS competed with the Spanish music station on 
both antennas. And as soon as power was restored, the station 
disappeared into the noise.


I have heard this station occasionally at dusk, but have had no luck 
identifying it.


Anyone have a clue?

73,

Stan, WA1LOU
Wolcott, CT, USA

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station

2009-05-24 Thread Steve Ratzlaff
Right now, 0550 utc, the signal is weak/medium on one of its fadeups, 
playing light vocal music.

Steve
NE Oregon

- Original Message - 
From: vroom...@comcast.net

To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?







Hello 1710 searchers,

From Pat location to Steves location in NE Oregon is 291 miles as the crow 
flies.  My location
North of Portland, OR to Walt's location is about 251 miles.  That's quite 
a large area.  The best
the signal has been here is fair with a lot of fading into the noise. 
It has been heard by Steve
and myself around 1200 or later utc.  It seems to Dxers to the South (Pat, 
Steve, myself) seem to
receive the signal stronger than others?  Tonight the signal was fair a 
few times, but mostly down in
the noise.  Hopefully Colin can hear this station and add some more 
information.


Dennis,
Salmon Creek, WA
JRC 545  ewe NW
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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-24 Thread Patrick Martin
Paul,

I thought 1590 KLFE Seattle could have been the issue, but Walt checked
it out and 1590 was not // with 1710. I know of no other Russian
stations on A in the NW. 

73,

Patrick

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-24 Thread satya
All I had last night was the mixing product, which bears about due south
of me, with both 710 and 1000 originating on different places on Vashon
Island.  Assuming the mystery station is also to the south, nulling the
mixing product to the hear the Russian may mean that I have to sell my
house and move.

But hey, if you've got your priorities in line, you do you crazy things!

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA (for now...)



 Hello Guys,

 For the first time, I'm trying the new 10' box loop at night, and it has
 two weak signals on 1710 kHz at opposite bearings-- the previously
 discovered
  KIRO-710 and KOMO-1000 mixing product at 300 degrees, and another weak
 station  in the null of the mixing product at 030 (or 210) degrees,
 presumably
 the  Russian. Weak male-voiced audio was heard on this station around 0440
 UTC, and  was not // to either KIRO or KOMO. Kind of tough to get much
 audio
 out of  it, though, and the getting accurate DF with the mixing product on
 the  frequency is a little tricky.

 73, Gary


 In a message dated 5/23/2009 9:42:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 n...@ieee.org writes:

 At 18:01  5/23/2009, you wrote:

There are Doukhobors in central/south-eastern  BC, but this is a very old
 immigration.  The main new Russian population  is in Vancouver, and IMHO,
 running pirates on 1710 is simply not a Canadian  thing to do.  My DFing
 (as
 primitive as it is) is all to the south.   Nick has better access to DFing
 than I do, so he might be able to comment  further.  Doubt very much
 Canada.Walt


 The direction  finding this evening is actually pointing towards Canada,
 but the fading is so  erratic on this one that I can't really be
 certainit
 seems to be about 60  degrees(240 degrees seems unlikely I would
 think,
 as there's not much  population in the northwestern tip of the Olympic
 peninsula, Russian or  otherwise).

 There really isn't much USA except for Blaine, WA, at 60  degrees from
 here...anybody in the Vancouver area monitoring this?


 Nick




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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-24 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
I have an Aunt who lives in Port Townsend, Washington and I've asked her to
check on her radios at home at least once during the day and once at night
to see if she gets anything on them. I've also asked her to check next time
she's in the car during the day and the evening.. I know she also goes to
Seattle once a week, so this may or may not help.

I don't know when/if she'll do this or if it'll even be useful, but I didn't
think it'd hurt to ask her for help.

I'll let you know if I hear anything back from her.

Paul Walker

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:09 AM, sa...@sounddsl.com wrote:

 All I had last night was the mixing product, which bears about due south
 of me, with both 710 and 1000 originating on different places on Vashon
 Island.  Assuming the mystery station is also to the south, nulling the
 mixing product to the hear the Russian may mean that I have to sell my
 house and move.

 But hey, if you've got your priorities in line, you do you crazy things!

 Kevin S
 Bainbridge Island, WA (for now...)



  Hello Guys,
 
  For the first time, I'm trying the new 10' box loop at night, and it has
  two weak signals on 1710 kHz at opposite bearings-- the previously
  discovered
   KIRO-710 and KOMO-1000 mixing product at 300 degrees, and another weak
  station  in the null of the mixing product at 030 (or 210) degrees,
  presumably
  the  Russian. Weak male-voiced audio was heard on this station around
 0440
  UTC, and  was not // to either KIRO or KOMO. Kind of tough to get much
  audio
  out of  it, though, and the getting accurate DF with the mixing product
 on
  the  frequency is a little tricky.
 
  73, Gary
 
 
  In a message dated 5/23/2009 9:42:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
  n...@ieee.org writes:
 
  At 18:01  5/23/2009, you wrote:
 
 There are Doukhobors in central/south-eastern  BC, but this is a very old
  immigration.  The main new Russian population  is in Vancouver, and IMHO,
  running pirates on 1710 is simply not a Canadian  thing to do.  My DFing
  (as
  primitive as it is) is all to the south.   Nick has better access to
 DFing
  than I do, so he might be able to comment  further.  Doubt very much
  Canada.Walt
 
 
  The direction  finding this evening is actually pointing towards Canada,
  but the fading is so  erratic on this one that I can't really be
  certainit
  seems to be about 60  degrees(240 degrees seems unlikely I would
  think,
  as there's not much  population in the northwestern tip of the Olympic
  peninsula, Russian or  otherwise).
 
  There really isn't much USA except for Blaine, WA, at 60  degrees from
  here...anybody in the Vancouver area monitoring this?
 
 
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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-24 Thread vroomski

Paul,

Hope your Anut is able to give 1710 a listen.  She lives is a great area, deer 
roam
the streets and Officer and a Gentlemen was film there. Stayed Port Townsend 
a couple
years ago.

Dennis,
Salmon Creek, WA


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Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:18:27 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle? 

I have an Aunt who lives in Port Townsend, Washington and I've asked her to 
check on her radios at home at least once during the day and once at night 
to see if she gets anything on them. I've also asked her to check next time 
she's in the car during the day and the evening.. I know she also goes to 
Seattle once a week, so this may or may not help. 

I don't know when/if she'll do this or if it'll even be useful, but I didn't 
think it'd hurt to ask her for help. 

I'll let you know if I hear anything back from her. 

Paul Walker 

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:09 AM, sa...@sounddsl.com wrote: 

 All I had last night was the mixing product, which bears about due south 
 of me, with both 710 and 1000 originating on different places on Vashon 
 Island.  Assuming the mystery station is also to the south, nulling the 
 mixing product to the hear the Russian may mean that I have to sell my 
 house and move. 
 
 But hey, if you've got your priorities in line, you do you crazy things! 
 
 Kevin S 
 Bainbridge Island, WA (for now...) 
 
 
 
  Hello Guys, 
  
  For the first time, I'm trying the new 10' box loop at night, and it has 
  two weak signals on 1710 kHz at opposite bearings-- the previously 
  discovered 
   KIRO-710 and KOMO-1000 mixing product at 300 degrees, and another weak 
  station  in the null of the mixing product at 030 (or 210) degrees, 
  presumably 
  the  Russian. Weak male-voiced audio was heard on this station around 
 0440 
  UTC, and  was not // to either KIRO or KOMO. Kind of tough to get much 
  audio 
  out of  it, though, and the getting accurate DF with the mixing product 
 on 
  the  frequency is a little tricky. 
  
  73, Gary 
  
  
  In a message dated 5/23/2009 9:42:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
  n...@ieee.org writes: 
  
  At 18:01  5/23/2009, you wrote: 
  
 There are Doukhobors in central/south-eastern  BC, but this is a very old 
  immigration.  The main new Russian population  is in Vancouver, and IMHO, 
  running pirates on 1710 is simply not a Canadian  thing to do.  My DFing 
  (as 
  primitive as it is) is all to the south.   Nick has better access to 
 DFing 
  than I do, so he might be able to comment  further.  Doubt very much 
  Canada.Walt 
  
  
  The direction  finding this evening is actually pointing towards Canada, 
  but the fading is so  erratic on this one that I can't really be 
  certainit 
  seems to be about 60  degrees(240 degrees seems unlikely I would 
  think, 
  as there's not much  population in the northwestern tip of the Olympic 
  peninsula, Russian or  otherwise). 
  
  There really isn't much USA except for Blaine, WA, at 60  degrees from 
  here...anybody in the Vancouver area monitoring this? 
  
  
  Nick 
  
  
  
  
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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station

2009-05-24 Thread Guy Atkins
Friday through Sunday I was camping in central Washington, north of Cle Elum
(N. Fork of the Teanaway River, 47°24'16.43N, 120°55'54.70W), and checked
1710 kHz frequently from Friday sunset onwards. I brought along the Eton E1,
a 10:1 transformer, coax lead-in, and 100 feet of random wire. I also had a
handful of smaller receivers like the CCrane SWP, Degen DE1103, and Eton
E100 (all stock). I was going to bring along laptops and the Perseus
receivers but at the last moment decided the trip was already complicated
enough, and left them at home.

The signal of 1710 (~1709.99 as best as I could tell on the E1) was widely
variable in signal strength, but the best level was around local sunset on
Friday. When I first tuned in, 1710 was at a fair to good level with Russian
language religious programming, but dropped quickly to a mere whisper just a
couple minutes later. The rest of the trip they were at threshold level to
poor, or sometimes just a carrier. As others have mentioned it seems to be a
24 hours operation. I checked occasionally between midnight and sunrise and
heard the same very weak signal and programming.

Using the radios I had on hand which have an internal loopstick (all but the
E1), as best as I can tell the bearing was slightly NNW-SSE (~345/165
degrees). Yakima is a city on this bearing to the SSE. However, I don't have
a lot of confidence in this due to the weak signal making DF'ing tough. I
wish I had though of trying one of the loopstick radios during the brief
period of good signal on 1710 at sunset on Friday.

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station

2009-05-24 Thread D1028Gary
Hi Guy,
 
Thanks for the report. Here in Puyallup there is a weak mixing product  of 
KIRO-710 and KOMO-1000 on 1710 kHz at a bearing of around 310 degrees,  
which makes an accurate DF of the Russian station at night (which is even  
weaker) rather tricky.  There is no daytime ground wave carrier of the  Russian 
here like Steve and Walt have noticed, even on the new 10' box loop--  just 
the mixing product. Maybe you will be able to detect two 1710 kHz carriers  
on your Perseus. If so, you are welcome to borrow any of the large traveling  
loops here for further investigation.
 
73, Gary
 
  

 
 
In a message dated 5/24/2009 8:26:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
d...@guyatkins.com writes:

Friday  through Sunday I was camping in central Washington, north of Cle 
Elum
(N.  Fork of the Teanaway River, 47°24'16.43N, 120°55'54.70W), and  
checked
1710 kHz frequently from Friday sunset onwards. I brought along the  Eton 
E1,
a 10:1 transformer, coax lead-in, and 100 feet of random wire. I  also had a
handful of smaller receivers like the CCrane SWP, Degen DE1103,  and Eton
E100 (all stock). I was going to bring along laptops and the  Perseus
receivers but at the last moment decided the trip was already  complicated
enough, and left them at home.

The signal of 1710  (~1709.99 as best as I could tell on the E1) was widely
variable in signal  strength, but the best level was around local sunset on
Friday. When I  first tuned in, 1710 was at a fair to good level with 
Russian
language  religious programming, but dropped quickly to a mere whisper just 
a
couple  minutes later. The rest of the trip they were at threshold level to
poor,  or sometimes just a carrier. As others have mentioned it seems to be 
a
24  hours operation. I checked occasionally between midnight and sunrise  
and
heard the same very weak signal and programming.

Using the  radios I had on hand which have an internal loopstick (all but 
the
E1), as  best as I can tell the bearing was slightly NNW-SSE (~345/165
degrees).  Yakima is a city on this bearing to the SSE. However, I don't 
have
a lot of  confidence in this due to the weak signal making DF'ing tough. I
wish I had  though of trying one of the loopstick radios during the brief
period of  good signal on 1710 at sunset on Friday.

Guy Atkins
Puyallup,  WA
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[IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread satya
Hi Pat/all:

I tried for it last night, and had a het on the H-900 whip but nothing on
a Quantum Loop tied into a larger crate loop.  Given that it only appeared
on an untuned antenna, I suspected that it was the KIRO-KOMO mixing
product, so I tuned the Quantum Loop base unit to 1000 and 710, and sure
enough the het appeared with audio from those two stations.

So, my guess is that it's not anywhere near the Seattle/Tacoma area, since
I would at least get a weak het on it.  What I heard the other night was
probably the mixing product.  I'm not that far from Everett and Bellingham
as the crow flies, either, with a water path to them.

Kevin S
Bainbridge Island, WA
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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread Patrick Martin
Kevin,

I wonder if there is a Russian population up in Central BC, like around
Kamloops?That would since connect with the directional pattern of the NE
EWE. I do get Penticton on 800 like it was across the street. We are
ruling out the I-5 area. 

73,

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread Walter Salmaniw
At 09:19 AM 5/23/2009, you wrote:
Kevin,

I wonder if there is a Russian population up in Central BC, like around
Kamloops?That would since connect with the directional pattern of the NE
EWE. I do get Penticton on 800 like it was across the street. We are
ruling out the I-5 area. 

73,

Patrick

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There are Doukhobors in central/south-eastern BC, but this is a very old 
immigration.  The main new Russian population is in Vancouver, and IMHO, 
running pirates on 1710 is simply not a Canadian thing to do.  My DFing (as 
primitive as it is) is all to the south.  Nick has better access to DFing than 
I do, so he might be able to comment further.  Doubt very much Canada.Walt 

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread Patrick Martin
 Your DF is to the South and mine to the NE, that still points to the
Puget Sound, unless there is some other area with a Russian population,
off to the West or the East, but it is skip alright.

Patrick 

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 18:01 5/23/2009, you wrote:

There are Doukhobors in central/south-eastern BC, but this is a very old 
immigration.  The main new Russian population is in Vancouver, and IMHO, 
running pirates on 1710 is simply not a Canadian thing to do.  My DFing (as 
primitive as it is) is all to the south.  Nick has better access to DFing than 
I do, so he might be able to comment further.  Doubt very much Canada.Walt 


The direction finding this evening is actually pointing towards Canada, but the 
fading is so erratic on this one that I can't really be certainit seems to 
be about 60 degrees(240 degrees seems unlikely I would think, as there's 
not much population in the northwestern tip of the Olympic peninsula, Russian 
or otherwise).

There really isn't much USA except for Blaine, WA, at 60 degrees from 
here...anybody in the Vancouver area monitoring this? 


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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread cafe

 
 There really isn't much USA except for Blaine, WA, at 60 degrees from 
 here...anybody in the Vancouver area monitoring this?
 
Hearing it here at 0445 UTC --

And yes to the fading -
If this is, indeed, within the skip zone, I would not have expected it to be as
close as Blaine.

I think I will power up one of my super-modified E100's and see if I can get a 
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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread Walter Salmaniw
At 10:37 PM 5/23/2009, you wrote:
At 18:01 5/23/2009, you wrote:

There are Doukhobors in central/south-eastern BC, but this is a very old 
immigration.  The main new Russian population is in Vancouver, and IMHO, 
running pirates on 1710 is simply not a Canadian thing to do.  My DFing (as 
primitive as it is) is all to the south.  Nick has better access to DFing 
than I do, so he might be able to comment further.  Doubt very much 
Canada.Walt 


The direction finding this evening is actually pointing towards Canada, but 
the fading is so erratic on this one that I can't really be certainit 
seems to be about 60 degrees(240 degrees seems unlikely I would think, as 
there's not much population in the northwestern tip of the Olympic peninsula, 
Russian or otherwise).

There really isn't much USA except for Blaine, WA, at 60 degrees from 
here...anybody in the Vancouver area monitoring this? 


Nick

Tonight, my ALA 100 oriented to the SW/NW is giving the strongest signal, which 
coincides nicely with what Nick is seeing.  I don't get much out of them until 
much later in the evening, though...Walt 

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
Just a thought, but has anyone checked any of the other stations, FCC
licensed ones, that run russian programming at the same time theyre hearing
the 1710 signal to see if it's some kind of weirdo mixing product?

I once heard a mixing product on 1230 a very clear signal from a nearby
1450, and never ever figured out how that came to be!

Paul

On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 10:53 PM, d1028g...@aol.com wrote:

 Hello Guys,

 For the first time, I'm trying the new 10' box loop at night, and it has
 two weak signals on 1710 kHz at opposite bearings-- the previously
 discovered
  KIRO-710 and KOMO-1000 mixing product at 300 degrees, and another weak
 station  in the null of the mixing product at 030 (or 210) degrees,
 presumably
 the  Russian. Weak male-voiced audio was heard on this station around 0440
 UTC, and  was not // to either KIRO or KOMO. Kind of tough to get much
 audio
 out of  it, though, and the getting accurate DF with the mixing product on
 the  frequency is a little tricky.

 73, Gary


 In a message dated 5/23/2009 9:42:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 n...@ieee.org writes:

 At 18:01  5/23/2009, you wrote:

 There are Doukhobors in central/south-eastern  BC, but this is a very old
 immigration.  The main new Russian population  is in Vancouver, and IMHO,
 running pirates on 1710 is simply not a Canadian  thing to do.  My DFing
 (as
 primitive as it is) is all to the south.   Nick has better access to DFing
 than I do, so he might be able to comment  further.  Doubt very much
 Canada.Walt
 

 The direction  finding this evening is actually pointing towards Canada,
 but the fading is so  erratic on this one that I can't really be
 certainit
 seems to be about 60  degrees(240 degrees seems unlikely I would think,
 as there's not much  population in the northwestern tip of the Olympic
 peninsula, Russian or  otherwise).

 There really isn't much USA except for Blaine, WA, at 60  degrees from
 here...anybody in the Vancouver area monitoring this?


 Nick




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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread Pete Taylor

Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:

I once heard a mixing product on 1230 a very clear signal from  
a nearby

1450, and never ever figured out how that came to be!


If you were in the Seattle area, it would be KWYZ-1230 Everett  
relaying KSUH-1450 Puyallup.


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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread Paul B. Walker, Jr.
No, nowhere close to there actually, it was a place that I lived once, me
and Powell Way never quite figured it out.

Paul
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Pete Taylor p...@comcast.net wrote:

 Paul B. Walker, Jr. wrote:

  I once heard a mixing product on 1230 a very clear signal from a
 nearby
 1450, and never ever figured out how that came to be!


 If you were in the Seattle area, it would be KWYZ-1230 Everett relaying
 KSUH-1450 Puyallup.

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Re: [IRCA] 1710 Mystery Station - not near Seattle?

2009-05-23 Thread vroomski




Hello 1710 searchers,

From Pat location to Steves location in NE Oregon is 291 miles as the crow 
flies.  My location
North of Portland, OR to Walt's location is about 251 miles.  That's quite a 
large area.  The best
the signal has been here is fair with a lot of fading into the noise.  It has 
been heard by Steve 
and myself around 1200 or later utc.  It seems to Dxers to the South (Pat, 
Steve, myself) seem to 
receive the signal stronger than others?  Tonight the signal was fair a few 
times, but mostly down in
the noise.  Hopefully Colin can hear this station and add some more information.

Dennis,
Salmon Creek, WA
JRC 545  ewe NW
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