Re: [IRCA] CFL Bulbs
Going further OT, I actually broke one last Fall (overhand swing with a flyswater - oops!) but I have already been told that mercury is in them but in a miniscule amount. A co-worker's young toddler broke one about two years ago and mom called the Poison control hotline and was told that it would take 100 CFL bulbs to equal the amount of mercury in a household thermometer. That is a small amount. By the way, the light was on at the time that I broke it and the whomp, whomp, whomp noise that it made was straight out of a science fiction movie and the pretty colors were mesmerising before it quit. :p I was heavilly involved in auto racing in the 90's as PR director for a major short track (Anderson (IN) Speedway). Mercury is bad news and apparently it was one of the cheating crazes back then, as stock cars had to meet minimum weight balance requirements (drivers would love 80 percent left side weight vs. the right side but that would be unsafe). The frame rails on the right side would be filled with mercury before the race (when the Left vs. right was checked) and then the mercury would drain out of holes and the right side would weigh less. We were talking HUGE amounts of mercury. The first few times that it happened was that is innovative, take a few weeks of the tour to think about what you've done and then it was you are out for the sport for the rest of your life and you'd better come up with the clean up funds! My guess that cheat is no longer the rage. 73, Dave in Indy Back on Topic - I have not noted much RF from CFL's. I do not like that there is a warm up period. I want my light, now. :) -- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:00:44 -0800 From: transis...@charter.net Subject: [IRCA] CFL bulbs To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Message-ID: 20090203140044.880g5.4361567.r...@mp14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 CFL bulbs - not only are they prolific RFI producers, but if you break one a small but definite amount of mercury is released. If ambient temperatures are warm enough, it probably vaporizes quickly, which isn't such a good thing in its own right. Hard to believe they are supposed to 'save the planet' with that nasty habit. Oops - back to just reading the mail... Scott NM8R Michigan (I did some engineering work for an environmental clean up company a few years back, removing mercury laden soil from a large utility's natural gas metering stations. We could easily detect mercury in the air with our portable sampling equipment, years after it had been spilled. Not from CFL's of course, but from an old metering process that was used in the '60's and before. It is a most elusive element to contain, and certainly not good for you. So be careful with those CFL's.) Back on-topic - great conditions lately! Among others, I am hearing R. Medi on 171 nearly nightly since Friday evening, and it has been strong enough to provide arm chair copy on my Zenith Trans-O portable in the living room several times. (Steve R. is probably getting sick of getting my little video clips of my Zenith, I bet.) He provided me an audio clip of 171 last night that made it sound like a local. All the more amazing when you consider he must look over the Pole to see the station. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] CFL bulbs
Not for long. 4 for 99 cents, I bet you have to replace them often. The GE Reveal, and the Sylvania counterpart are bright and white. My tests show they don't come remotely close to rated hours, and I was running them 24/7 which means they should last WELL past rated hours. This test was run in West Columbia and now here in Silverstreet. Different fixtures. The 40 watt ones are as bright as 60's. These must be 90 volt bulbs run at 120. :) And eventually you won't be able to get incandescent lamps for home or they will be mandated to be expensive. I did however get a box ( what they came in from GE) of 40 watt Candelabra bulbs with the bent tip for $5.00. 4 bulbs to a blister pack and I think 8 or so packs. I guess I will be using those for years. In my dining room I have CFL's in the 5 lamp fixture than hangs down over the dining room table. candelabra style. They are brighter than the 60 watt incandescents they replace. No interference. The TV is my interference culprit. And then there's the BRAA power line noise. It gets into the high VHF TV channels. Powell POP email is powell at backroads DOT net In my case, if even one could cause RFI, it is not going to be in my house! Why bother with them anyway, when I can buy regular 60 watt bulbs for 99 cents for 4? ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] CFL bulbs
I have one for the outside of the house on the front. There is a micro portch and the fixture is partially protected. I had to dissassemble the fixture to some extent for this CFL. It draws 63 watts. The claim is it is as bright as a 300. Once warm it has to be brighter. It casts a shadow halfway down my front yard which is half an acre Powell POP email is powell at backroads DOT net --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Tim Kridel t...@timkridel.com wrote: If a CFL dies before its rated hours, check the manufacturer's Web site. I had a bad batch of 65W CFL floods from N:Vision, which sent replacements. Other vendors might be doing likewise. One thing I really like about CFLs is being able to have brighter light. I put 100W CFLs in lamps and fixtures rated for 60W because a 100W CFL actually draws only about 23W. So it's still well below what the lamp or fixture is rated to handle. irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] CFL bulbs
I've got CFLs all over my house and haven't noticed an increase in RFI on any band. From: transis...@charter.net Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:00:44 -0800 To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] CFL bulbs CFL bulbs - not only are they prolific RFI producers, but if you break one a small but definite amount of mercury is released. If ambient temperatures are warm enough, it probably vaporizes quickly, which isn't such a good thing in its own right. Hard to believe they are supposed to 'save the planet' with that nasty habit. Oops - back to just reading the mail... Scott NM8R Michigan (I did some engineering work for an environmental clean up company a few years back, removing mercury laden soil from a large utility's natural gas metering stations. We could easily detect mercury in the air with our portable sampling equipment, years after it had been spilled. Not from CFL's of course, but from an old metering process that was used in the '60's and before. It is a most elusive element to contain, and certainly not good for you. So be careful with those CFL's.) Back on-topic - great conditions lately! Among others, I am hearing R. Medi on 171 nearly nightly since Friday evening, and it has been strong enough to provide arm chair copy on my Zenith Trans-O portable in the living room several times. (Steve R. is probably getting sick of getting my little video clips of my Zenith, I bet.) He provided me an audio clip of 171 last night that made it sound like a local. All the more amazing when you consider he must look over the Pole to see the station. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] CFL bulbs
On Feb 3, 2009, at 1:00 PM, transis...@charter.net wrote: not only are they prolific RFI producers, My house is full of them. I have never had that problem. What are you buying? Ho Chi Minh brand out of the back of someone's car? Kevin ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] CFL bulbs
CFL bulbs - not only are they prolific RFI producers, but if you break one a small but definite amount of mercury is released. If ambient temperatures are warm enough, it probably vaporizes quickly, which isn't such a good thing in its own right. Hard to believe they are supposed to 'save the planet' with that nasty habit. Oops - back to just reading the mail... Scott NM8R Michigan (I did some engineering work for an environmental clean up company a few years back, removing mercury laden soil from a large utility's natural gas metering stations. We could easily detect mercury in the air with our portable sampling equipment, years after it had been spilled. Not from CFL's of course, but from an old metering process that was used in the '60's and before. It is a most elusive element to contain, and certainly not good for you. So be careful with those CFL's.) Back on-topic - great conditions lately! Among others, I am hearing R. Medi on 171 nearly nightly since Friday evening, and it has been strong enough to provide arm chair copy on my Zenith Trans-O portable in the living room several times. (Steve R. is probably getting sick of getting my little video clips of my Zenith, I bet.) He provided me an audio clip of 171 last night that made it sound like a local. All the more amazing when you consider he must look over the Pole to see the station. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] CFL bulbs
In my case, if even one could cause RFI, it is not going to be in my house! Why bother with them anyway, when I can buy regular 60 watt bulbs for 99 cents for 4? My satellite gear uses more electricity than the light bulbs in the house. Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
