Re: [IRCA] Reposting from www.qrz.com

2008-01-06 Thread Russ Edmunds

--- Patrick Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Scott,
 
 I have not heard of a study either per se, but I have always
 wondered.
 If the 1/2 watt cel phone is an issue, there will be millions who
 come
 down with cancer in the future. I have heard pro and con on that
 subject
 too. 1/2 watt is not much, but of course it is next to your head.
 Then
 there is the cordless phone too. Not the wattage, but still RF net to
 your head. I guess you could lay awake nights and worry about
 anything
 and everything. 
 


One could.

Any studies I have seen over the recent years pretty much debunk the
cell phone issue



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[IRCA] Reposting from www.qrz.com

2008-01-05 Thread Joe Miller, KJ8O
RADIO HEALTH:  RADIO AND LEUKEMIA LINK HALTS TOWERS

A county official in Washington state has ruled that
two AM towers can’t be built until possible health
dangers of electromagnetic energy are analyzed.  This
is an action that could have far ranging implications
for anyone wanting to put in a new radio installation
of any kind in that state.

The owners of KRKO A-M in Everett, Washington wants to
add two towers to four that have been approved for a
site south of Snohomish.  The Snohomish County
official making the decision to delay the project
cited a recent study published by The American Journal
of Epidemiology.  It found that children who live
within a certain distance of A-M radio antenna
structures are twice as likely to develop leukemia.  
(RW)



  

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Re: [IRCA] Reposting from www.qrz.com

2008-01-05 Thread Scott Fybush
Joe Miller, KJ8O wrote:
 RADIO HEALTH:  RADIO AND LEUKEMIA LINK HALTS TOWERS
 
 A county official in Washington state has ruled that
 two AM towers can’t be built until possible health
 dangers of electromagnetic energy are analyzed.  This
 is an action that could have far ranging implications
 for anyone wanting to put in a new radio installation
 of any kind in that state.
 
 The owners of KRKO A-M in Everett, Washington wants to
 add two towers to four that have been approved for a
 site south of Snohomish.  The Snohomish County
 official making the decision to delay the project
 cited a recent study published by The American Journal
 of Epidemiology.  It found that children who live
 within a certain distance of A-M radio antenna
 structures are twice as likely to develop leukemia.  
 (RW)

The study in question, which actually came out of South Korea, is, shall 
we say, questionable. While it did observe an increase, that increase 
was within the study's own margin of error - and even at that, there 
were many other environmental factors that weren't controlled for in the 
study. (As any of us who chase tower sites know all too well, they're 
rarely located in the nicer sections of town, and there are usually a 
lot of other potential health problems associated with the areas in 
which towers are typically sited.)

That said, the study certainly provides yet another useful hook on which 
NIMBYesque neighbors can hang their opposition to tower construction. 
(In the case of KRKO, which has now been fighting for well over a 
decade, at a legal cost that's now surely well into the seven figures, 
the neighbors simply don't want towers of any kind impinging on their 
view in their fairly rural area east of Everett.)

s


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Re: [IRCA] Reposting from www.qrz.com

2008-01-05 Thread Patrick Martin
Scott,

I have known a lot of engineers through the years that worked around a
lot of high power AM, FM,  TV transmitters and quite a few passed on
with some kind of cancer, but also a lot of other people die of cancer
too. But I have always wondered, being around a lot of high RF, how
healthy is it?

73,

Patrick 

Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager

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Re: [IRCA] Reposting from www.qrz.com

2008-01-05 Thread Bruce Portzer
As I understand it, the Telecommunications Act of 1996 gave the FCC sole 
jurisdiction over r.f. exposure matters.  In other words, local 
officials cannot legally consider health issues when deciding whether to 
approve radio facilities.  The FCC established r.f. exposure 
requirements soon after the 1996 Telecomm Act, and all licensees are 
required to make sure the public is not exposed to electromagnetic 
fields that exceed the legal limits. 

That said, it's possible for a local board to respond to someone's 
exposure concerns based on fear, uncertainty, and doubt, but I would 
expect the courts to rule in the station's favor when and if this comes 
up for appeal (assuming the station can show it will stay within the 
legal r.f. exposure limitations).  The county would need to show 
evidence that the FCC's r.f. exposure limits are inadequate.  There have 
been similar legal arguments in recent years, particularly with respect 
to cell phone use, but so far the courts have ruled against them due to 
lack of evidence.

Bruce

Scott Fybush wrote:
 Joe Miller, KJ8O wrote:
   
 RADIO HEALTH:  RADIO AND LEUKEMIA LINK HALTS TOWERS

 A county official in Washington state has ruled that
 two AM towers can’t be built until possible health
 dangers of electromagnetic energy are analyzed.  This
 is an action that could have far ranging implications
 for anyone wanting to put in a new radio installation
 of any kind in that state.

 The owners of KRKO A-M in Everett, Washington wants to
 add two towers to four that have been approved for a
 site south of Snohomish.  The Snohomish County
 official making the decision to delay the project
 cited a recent study published by The American Journal
 of Epidemiology.  It found that children who live
 within a certain distance of A-M radio antenna
 structures are twice as likely to develop leukemia.  
 (RW)
 

 The study in question, which actually came out of South Korea, is, shall 
 we say, questionable. While it did observe an increase, that increase 
 was within the study's own margin of error - and even at that, there 
 were many other environmental factors that weren't controlled for in the 
 study. (As any of us who chase tower sites know all too well, they're 
 rarely located in the nicer sections of town, and there are usually a 
 lot of other potential health problems associated with the areas in 
 which towers are typically sited.)

 That said, the study certainly provides yet another useful hook on which 
 NIMBYesque neighbors can hang their opposition to tower construction. 
 (In the case of KRKO, which has now been fighting for well over a 
 decade, at a legal cost that's now surely well into the seven figures, 
 the neighbors simply don't want towers of any kind impinging on their 
 view in their fairly rural area east of Everett.)

 s
   

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Re: [IRCA] Reposting from www.qrz.com

2008-01-05 Thread Scott Fybush
Patrick Martin wrote:
 Scott,
 
 I have known a lot of engineers through the years that worked around a
 lot of high power AM, FM,  TV transmitters and quite a few passed on
 with some kind of cancer, but also a lot of other people die of cancer
 too. But I have always wondered, being around a lot of high RF, how
 healthy is it?

That's a tough question to answer. I don't think there's ever been a 
study that's looked specifically at RF engineers and cancer. It would be 
hard to do scientifically - what do you use as a control group?

Anecdotally, I haven't seen much evidence that long-term exposure to RF 
correlates to an increased cancer risk. I've known some engineers who 
have died young, but plenty who've lived very long, very healthy lives, too.

Today's engineers certainly get less high-level RF exposure than 
engineers did a generation or two ago. It used to be common to work on 
AM towers that were energized, or near FM/TV antennas that were 
energized. Current RF exposure standards have made those practices 
obsolete. There's more attention paid nowadays to ground-level exposure, 
too.

For myself, I'm much more cautious in close proximity to VHF and 
especially UHF and microwave than I am in the near field of MW stations.

I suspect most people - most engineers, even - end up getting much more 
ionizing radiation exposure from cell phones held up close to their ears 
(or on belt clips) than they ever do from the much higher powered, but 
much more distant, broadcast antennas.

s
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