Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-27 Thread John H. Bryant
I wasn't going to answer this, since it is truly a Fools Question, 
IMHO.  However, when my good friend Nick H-P mentioned the IRCA 
Reprint and then updated it by mentioning the E1, which I own and 
the R-75, which I've used, I just had to drop my oar in the 
water.  You might ask yourself why Guy Atkins, who owns both an e-1 
and an R-75 and ,I who owned a Tentec RX-340 until two weeks ago, 
have both been using (almost exclusively) SDR Radios for the past 
year in Guy's case, a FlexRadio SDR-1000; in my case, a WinRadio 
313e.  Guy has also owned both a 7030 and an R8B in recent years. At 
the recent IRCA Convention, we jointly presented these two stunning 
receivers and allowed as how we cannot imagine ever going back to 
traditional receivers. If ya want the unqualified best DX receiver, 
at any price, you cannot leave out these two medium-priced wonders.

John B.






At 04:16 PM 11/26/2006 +, you wrote:
At 15:38 26/11/2006, you wrote:
 So, I pose this question to you. In your
 opinion, what do you think are the best set-ups for small, medium and large
 budgets?

Oh my, the IRCA reprints strike again:

R093 Best DX Radios (2 p) Gerry Thomas. A collection of minireviews
of thirteen desktop and twelve portable radios from a
medium wave DXer's standpoint, along with relative ranking of
DX capability. (12/01)

Not all, of course, are available new

A couple not on the list are the ICOM R75 which is a fine
introduction to communication receivers, and the Eton E1, which some
consider better than the Sony ICF2010.

best wishes,

Nick





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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-27 Thread Bruce Bacon
John, I noticed in the specifications section at the
Winradio site, image rejection is not listed below
1.8Mhz. How does the 313e perform in high RF (eg city)
environments with a simple long wire? And...thanks for
piquing my interest in yet another radio, hi, hi!

73,
Bruce N7BWB
Boise County, ID


--- John H. Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I wasn't going to answer this, since it is truly a
 Fools Question, 
 IMHO.  However, when my good friend Nick H-P
 mentioned the IRCA 
 Reprint and then updated it by mentioning the E1,
 which I own and 
 the R-75, which I've used, I just had to drop my oar
 in the 
 water.  You might ask yourself why Guy Atkins, who
 owns both an e-1 
 and an R-75 and ,I who owned a Tentec RX-340 until
 two weeks ago, 
 have both been using (almost exclusively) SDR Radios
 for the past 
 year in Guy's case, a FlexRadio SDR-1000; in my
 case, a WinRadio 
 313e.  Guy has also owned both a 7030 and an R8B in
 recent years. At 
 the recent IRCA Convention, we jointly presented
 these two stunning 
 receivers and allowed as how we cannot imagine ever
 going back to 
 traditional receivers. If ya want the unqualified
 best DX receiver, 
 at any price, you cannot leave out these two
 medium-priced wonders.
 
 John B.

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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-27 Thread John H. Bryant
Bruce,

The half of the year that I DX in Washington state, My antennas are 
20 unobstructed sea miles or less from all of the Vancouver 50 kw 
flamethrowers.  Using a 100 x 20 KAZ antenna, I had no problems at 
all.  With a 65' x 100' EWE pointed nearly at the Vancouver stations 
this summer, I had overloads, primarily from 650 CISL (over S-9+50 
dB.)  The 313 has an 18 db attenuator that totally solved that and 
still allowed very weak DX through.  I don't think that the 303 has 
the attenuator.

John B.








At 10:10 AM 11/27/2006 -0800, you wrote:
John, I noticed in the specifications section at the
Winradio site, image rejection is not listed below
1.8Mhz. How does the 313e perform in high RF (eg city)
environments with a simple long wire? And...thanks for
piquing my interest in yet another radio, hi, hi!

73,
Bruce N7BWB
Boise County, ID


--- John H. Bryant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  I wasn't going to answer this, since it is truly a
  Fools Question,
  IMHO.  However, when my good friend Nick H-P
  mentioned the IRCA
  Reprint and then updated it by mentioning the E1,
  which I own and
  the R-75, which I've used, I just had to drop my oar
  in the
  water.  You might ask yourself why Guy Atkins, who
  owns both an e-1
  and an R-75 and ,I who owned a Tentec RX-340 until
  two weeks ago,
  have both been using (almost exclusively) SDR Radios
  for the past
  year in Guy's case, a FlexRadio SDR-1000; in my
  case, a WinRadio
  313e.  Guy has also owned both a 7030 and an R8B in
  recent years. At
  the recent IRCA Convention, we jointly presented
  these two stunning
  receivers and allowed as how we cannot imagine ever
  going back to
  traditional receivers. If ya want the unqualified
  best DX receiver,
  at any price, you cannot leave out these two
  medium-priced wonders.
 
  John B.

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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-27 Thread Doug Pifer-desert4wd.com
Hi All,
Thanks again for answering my vague question as I was mostly trying to get 
some opinions in an effort to assist my brother.  I'm fine with my Drake and 
Kiwa and do understand that they're not manufactured anymore, which is a 
shame.
73- Doug


I wasn't going to answer this, since it is truly a Fools Question,
 IMHO.

 However, when my good friend Nick H-P mentioned the IRCA
 Reprint and then updated it by mentioning the E1, which I own and
 the R-75, which I've used, I just had to drop my oar in the
 water.  You might ask yourself why Guy Atkins, who owns both an e-1
 and an R-75 and ,I who owned a Tentec RX-340 until two weeks ago,
 have both been using (almost exclusively) SDR Radios for the past
 year in Guy's case, a FlexRadio SDR-1000; in my case, a WinRadio
 313e.  Guy has also owned both a 7030 and an R8B in recent years. At
 the recent IRCA Convention, we jointly presented these two stunning
 receivers and allowed as how we cannot imagine ever going back to
 traditional receivers. If ya want the unqualified best DX receiver,
 at any price, you cannot leave out these two medium-priced wonders.

 John B.






 At 04:16 PM 11/26/2006 +, you wrote:
At 15:38 26/11/2006, you wrote:
 So, I pose this question to you. In your
 opinion, what do you think are the best set-ups for small, medium and 
 large
 budgets?

Oh my, the IRCA reprints strike again:

R093 Best DX Radios (2 p) Gerry Thomas. A collection of minireviews
of thirteen desktop and twelve portable radios from a
medium wave DXer's standpoint, along with relative ranking of
DX capability. (12/01)

Not all, of course, are available new

A couple not on the list are the ICOM R75 which is a fine
introduction to communication receivers, and the Eton E1, which some
consider better than the Sony ICF2010.

best wishes,

Nick





Nick Hall-Patch
Victoria, B.C.
Canada


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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-27 Thread Craig Healy
Thanks again for answering my vague question as I was mostly trying to get 
some opinions in an effort to assist my brother.  I'm fine with my Drake and 
Kiwa and do understand that they're not manufactured anymore, which is a 
shame.

I have a Drake R8B in perfect shape available for $1000, if anyone's 
interested..  It'll hit eBay fairly soon, and likely go for a fair bit more 
than that.

Craig Healy
Providence, RI



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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-26 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 15:38 26/11/2006, you wrote:
So, I pose this question to you. In your
opinion, what do you think are the best set-ups for small, medium and large
budgets?

Oh my, the IRCA reprints strike again:

R093 Best DX Radios (2 p) Gerry Thomas. A collection of minireviews
of thirteen desktop and twelve portable radios from a
medium wave DXer's standpoint, along with relative ranking of
DX capability. (12/01)

Not all, of course, are available new

A couple not on the list are the ICOM R75 which is a fine 
introduction to communication receivers, and the Eton E1, which some 
consider better than the Sony ICF2010.

best wishes,

Nick





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Victoria, B.C.
Canada

 
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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-26 Thread Doug Pifer-desert4wd.com
Hi  All,
So Nick, your going to make me work for these answers.  hi.  Thanks for 
posting that resource, I appreciate it.

Actually, I'm just looking for opinions, but to narrow the question down. 
How about just receivers that are currently produced.  Personally I'm not in 
the market for a new receiver and hope my Drake will last 20+ years like my 
Yaesu did.
73's - Doug 

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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-26 Thread Neil Kazaross
For a medium budget..your R8B and Kiwa loop answers that question.

For a smaller budget..I'd use a R75 and a Quantum loop (noting the Quantum 
is almost as good as the Kiwa from my tests)

For a larger budget..what rx is truly superior to the R8A/B or AOR7030+ ? I 
slightly prefer my AOR to my Drakes, but only very very slightly. Perhaps a 
IC 756 Pro III with MW pad removed ? From the demos at the convention, 
perhaps the top of the line computer controlled sets. ( I DX from my car in 
fields at my homes and I barely know how to turn a computer on, so those 
aren't for me at this moment)

For antennas on a larger budget.. Phased Beverages with enough land (set up 
and wire is cheap..land ISN'T), and if less land, and nice flat dry land, 
Phased BOGs. For normal high budget large suburban lots of 1 acre or so. A 
K9AY phaseable vs a couple switch selectable mini-BOGs would allow the 
K9AY's switchable cardiod pattern to be phase enhanced to null pests off one 
side of the cardiod or to deepen the back null to at least 50 dB which will 
get rid of anything less than a 50 KW superlocal. If interest in just one 
general direction, a fixed cardiod antenna like a KAZ,Flag, Pennant, EWE, 
phased vs a couple of mini-BOGs works great.

73 KAZ
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From: Doug Pifer-desert4wd.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?


 Hi All,
 My brother, who lives in another state want's to know what the best 
 receiver
 and antenna is.  I'm presuming he means for the BCB since he used to or
 maybe still doe's DX.  I told him in an email a few weeks ago, it depends 
 on
 what he is looking for but apparently he forgot about that and would still
 like to know what's the best. So, I pose this question to you. In your
 opinion, what do you think are the best set-ups for small, medium and 
 large
 budgets?
 Thanks and 73- Doug
 Drake R8B and Kiwa loop


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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-26 Thread Bob Young
I think the best answer was yours, depends on what he's looking for. The 
receiver that you use, the Drake R8 etc. seems to be the receiver of choice 
for many serious MW DX'ers. I prefer to have something I can work on, tune 
up etc. so I use boatanchors, some of which are: R-390-A which is probably 
as good as the best of today, Hammarlund HQ-180, National HRO-60 and 
Hammarlund SP-600 all of which give a very good accounting of themselves in 
the medium wave bands. I believe the state of the art in antennas today are 
2 LW's (best of which is a beverage if you have the space) and other outside 
antennas such as the pennant etc. and and very importantly a phaser with the 
outside antennas especially the LW's.
I think there is a lot of bang for the buck in the old Hammarlunds 
especially if you are on a limited budget, HQ129,s 140's and 150's (rare and 
more expensive) are all good radios and usually can be had for less than 
three hundred bucks which won't buy a lot of radio brand new nowadays.


Bob Young
Millbury, Ma



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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:38:23 -0800

Hi All,
My brother, who lives in another state want's to know what the best 
receiver

and antenna is.  I'm presuming he means for the BCB since he used to or
maybe still doe's DX.  I told him in an email a few weeks ago, it depends 
on

what he is looking for but apparently he forgot about that and would still
like to know what's the best. So, I pose this question to you. In your
opinion, what do you think are the best set-ups for small, medium and large
budgets?
Thanks and 73- Doug
Drake R8B and Kiwa loop

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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-26 Thread Patrick Martin
Doug,

A Drake R8/A/B and a KIWA Loop, for someone that did not want to mess
with outside antennas. Of course the Drake R8/A/B is no longer made as
well as the KIWA loop,  but there is still a lot of used ones around.
For a new set up maybe the R75 and a Quantum Loop.

73,

Patrick

Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager

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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-26 Thread Doug Pifer-desert4wd.com
Howdy,
I appreciate everyones input on this and the variety of suggestions. I don't 
think my brother has ever been into SWL'ing and as a matter of fact, he's 
the one that got me into DX'ing the BCB, before we really knew what it was 
called. (it was just pure fun to hear Chicago etc. from CA.)  My brother 
lives in Oceanside, CA, residential housing, probably 3-5 miles from the 
ocean. I think he's not that far from the old KUDE tower/s- hahaha, don't 
know the current calls off hand.

Can't say that I have the reprints CD yet, Nick. But I think I have a few 
articles from a long time ago, hi.
73, Doug 

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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-26 Thread J999w
Doesn't it depend upon your goals?

I mean, if you're parked on the domestic channels, it doesn't take much of a 
receiver to be happy ... success boils down to directional antennas.

If you're chasing the EU/TP split channels, then it comes down to receiver 
design. Except for you boys on the coasts ... you've got it easy. :^]

John K9RZZ
Milwaukee
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Re: [IRCA] What's the best Receiver and Antenna?

2006-11-26 Thread Nick Hall-Patch
At 20:27 26/11/2006, you wrote:
   My brother
lives in Oceanside, CA, residential housing, probably 3-5 miles from the
ocean. \\


Sounds like a reasonable location for DX especially if he's not 
afraid of early rising.

Sounds as if strong signals shouldn't be a big problem there, so most 
any radio will probably do well, though he'd have to cut through Los 
Angeles and Mexico stations.

best wishes,

Nick





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