Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test
Hi David; I'm not an antenna expert, in the least, as most of my current MW DX'ing is done with portables (though I have an old Sanserino loop in storage). At any rate, have you considered a flag, pennant or some other corner fed loop? Bill Nollman (from CT, on the WTFDA lists) uses something like a 30'x40'x30' corner fed loop and has so much gain that he has to attenuate his antenna. I'm just not sure about the steep angles of your land. You should be able to grab TA signals from WV as DX'ers from TN and AL have heard them in the past. I think that these corner fed loops are similar to an EWE but they have a bottom wire and no earth grounds / terminators, just the resistor on one corner and the transformer opposite. Nice AZ catch! 73, Dave in Indy -- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:29:06 -0400 From: David Yocis davidyo...@hotmail.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test Message-ID: col120-w21b2caf323f523d55c08dcde...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Neil Kaz writes: Tell us more about your longwires please! 73 KAZ noting that he'd have quit this hobby decades ago if it weren't for phasing. Yes, phasing is truly a remarkable thing. I'm a latecomer to it, having used indoor loops most of my DXing life, and now I don't know how I ever lived without it. I'm currently living pretty deep in the woods near the top of the west side of a ridge. I have room on my property for a LW of around 150 feet running at around 20/200 degrees, which I have done at various times. But the land to my east, up to the top of the ridge, is owned by the Appalachian Trail Society and essentially unoccupied forest. It's a very steep climb and probably half a mile up to the trail itself, so it's possible to lay a wire on the ground in that general direction without bothering anyone. I have one wire that was 500 feet when I put it down, maybe four or five years ago, running more or less ESE, and a new one about 200 feet to the NE or ENE, both on the ground running sharply uphill. The new one has noticeably better gain on most frequencies, so I presume the forces of nature have shortened the 500-footer by now. I'm planning to replace it when the weather cools off enough for me to climb the ridge with a new wire. Both are connected at the near en! d with coax to the Quantum Phaser. I'm no antenna theoretician, and I have no idea what an uphill on-ground wire ought to do. I probably could run a bit more than 500 feet ESE if I wanted to, but there doesn't seem to be much point in trying to turn it into a terminated BOG at that azimuth -- not many DX targets in that direction, and it seems odd to run a terminated BOG up a steep ridge -- wouldn't the hill itself block signals in the target direction? Anything much off that azimuth, and I start running into natural obstacles or occupied land at well below beverage lengths. _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=P ID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test
2 people w/ amazing catches! KKOK s/off is at central. 73 Todd in MN -Original Message- From: Barry McLarnon b...@bdmcomm.ca To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: 19-Jul-2010 22:15:02 + Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test Yowzah! I didn't think I had a prayer of hearing KEVT at this time of year, but I just got to the unattended recordings I made last night, and, sure enough, I was able to pull out some slow code, followed by sweeps and more code, starting about 14 seconds after the 0200 EDT (0600 UTC) TOH. Distance from here is 2083 miles, AZ logging #3! I had to contend with WPHT, my local 50 kW blowtorch on 1200, IBOC noise (probably from WCHB on 1200), and a lot of thunderstorm static - it's just amazing how well the code and sweeps can punch through all that crud. I haven't had time to listen to much of the recordings yet, but also noted another station under WPHT - possibly KGYN or KOKK, both of which have been heard been here before. Muchas gracias for running this test! Barry -- Barry McLarnon VE3JF Ottawa, ON ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test good, 05 utc in NE Oregon
The second KEVT test is being heard well here in Southern CA as well. Lots of SS music. Caught a code ID and some sweep tones around 11 pm PDT. Sounds great! Mike Sanburn From: stever...@wildblue.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:19:31 -0700 Subject: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test good, 05 utc in NE Oregon The Sunday night 1210 KEVT DX Test was heard at good level at the 10p.m./05 utc time. Test began a minute early, 0459:08 utc with loud sweep tones, two morse code idents then more sweep tones, ending about 0459:35. I'll try to check the next hour and maybe the last hour too. 73, Steve NE Oregon ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test
Excellent catch David!!! Both KEVT AND KGYN.Mike Sanburn From: davidyo...@hotmail.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:35:30 -0400 Subject: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test Well, I didn't think that was going to work, but two code IDs and a sweep tone at 0202 ELT from KEVT made it through here in extreme eastern West Virginia! Some snippets of Mexican music earlier in the hour, and a couple nice IDs from KGYN as well, in a very tight and unstable partial phase null of WPHT. By my calculations KEVT is 1918 miles, KGYN 1296 miles, and WPHT 159 miles. Usually phasing WPHthere's nothing but IBOC from WHKW-1220 when WPHT is phased. Great test! David Yocis Shannondale WV (39-13 N, 77-48 W) R71A, longwires, Quantum phaser _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test
Nicely done at this distance, David !! Tell us more about your longwires please! 73 KAZ noting that he'd have quit this hobby decades ago if it weren't for phasing. -Original Message- From: Mike Sanburn mikesanb...@hotmail.com Sent: Jul 19, 2010 2:58 PM To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test Excellent catch David!!! Both KEVT AND KGYN.Mike Sanburn From: davidyo...@hotmail.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 02:35:30 -0400 Subject: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test Well, I didn't think that was going to work, but two code IDs and a sweep tone at 0202 ELT from KEVT made it through here in extreme eastern West Virginia! Some snippets of Mexican music earlier in the hour, and a couple nice IDs from KGYN as well, in a very tight and unstable partial phase null of WPHT. By my calculations KEVT is 1918 miles, KGYN 1296 miles, and WPHT 159 miles. Usually phasing WPHthere's nothing but IBOC from WHKW-1220 when WPHT is phased. Great test! David Yocis Shannondale WV (39-13 N, 77-48 W) R71A, longwires, Quantum phaser _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test
Yowzah! I didn't think I had a prayer of hearing KEVT at this time of year, but I just got to the unattended recordings I made last night, and, sure enough, I was able to pull out some slow code, followed by sweeps and more code, starting about 14 seconds after the 0200 EDT (0600 UTC) TOH. Distance from here is 2083 miles, AZ logging #3! I had to contend with WPHT, my local 50 kW blowtorch on 1200, IBOC noise (probably from WCHB on 1200), and a lot of thunderstorm static - it's just amazing how well the code and sweeps can punch through all that crud. I haven't had time to listen to much of the recordings yet, but also noted another station under WPHT - possibly KGYN or KOKK, both of which have been heard been here before. Muchas gracias for running this test! Barry -- Barry McLarnon VE3JF Ottawa, ON ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] 1210 KEVT test
Neil Kaz writes: Tell us more about your longwires please! 73 KAZ noting that he'd have quit this hobby decades ago if it weren't for phasing. Yes, phasing is truly a remarkable thing. I'm a latecomer to it, having used indoor loops most of my DXing life, and now I don't know how I ever lived without it. I'm currently living pretty deep in the woods near the top of the west side of a ridge. I have room on my property for a LW of around 150 feet running at around 20/200 degrees, which I have done at various times. But the land to my east, up to the top of the ridge, is owned by the Appalachian Trail Society and essentially unoccupied forest. It's a very steep climb and probably half a mile up to the trail itself, so it's possible to lay a wire on the ground in that general direction without bothering anyone. I have one wire that was 500 feet when I put it down, maybe four or five years ago, running more or less ESE, and a new one about 200 feet to the NE or ENE, both on the ground running sharply uphill. The new one has noticeably better gain on most frequencies, so I presume the forces of nature have shortened the 500-footer by now. I'm planning to replace it when the weather cools off enough for me to climb the ridge with a new wire. Both are connected at the near en! d with coax to the Quantum Phaser. I'm no antenna theoretician, and I have no idea what an uphill on-ground wire ought to do. I probably could run a bit more than 500 feet ESE if I wanted to, but there doesn't seem to be much point in trying to turn it into a terminated BOG at that azimuth -- not many DX targets in that direction, and it seems odd to run a terminated BOG up a steep ridge -- wouldn't the hill itself block signals in the target direction? Anything much off that azimuth, and I start running into natural obstacles or occupied land at well below beverage lengths. _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
