Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off

2015-02-17 Thread Dennis Gibson
The CP to increase to 25 kW daytime was granted in November of 1994. The 
license to cover was granted almost exactly a year later. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2015, at 10:15 PM, "Rick Lewis"  wrote:
> 
> Dennis,
> I don't recall exactly when, (I think it was after I left Bakersfield), but I 
> think the 25Kw day power for KPMC/KNZR began in the late 1980s.
> I remember them as 10Kw day and night. 
> They mainly signed off at midnight till the early 70s, then ran till 1 AM or 
> later.
> They had so many local sports commitments that a few Saturday nights they'd 
> run live Bakersfield College sports, and then they'd run tape-delayed sports 
> events, sometimes until nearly 5:45 AM sign-on.
> --
> Rick
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Gibson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:47 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off
> 
> I don't know but asked someone who might. 
> 
> As for the WQEW/KNZR situation the only unusual thing I could find is that 
> KNZR is a grandfathered Class A; 25 kW daytime and 10 kW nighttime. Most 
> Class A stations are 50 kW full time. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Rick Dau  wrote:
>> 
>> And according to Earl Higgins, KCJJ in Iowa City (which was on 1560 with 1 
>> kw back in the day) was required to SIGN OFF COMPLETELY at Iowa City sunset 
>> to protect KPMC and then allowed to sign back on at Bakersfield sunset!  Is 
>> that true?  I asked KCJJ's current owner (someone who wasn't even involved 
>> with the station until 1994) about that, and he says that was never the 
>> case.  But, then again, his knowledge of station history is a bit foggy.  He 
>> keeps denying that they signed off 1560 for good on October 13, 1998 with 
>> the Beatles' "The End", when I KNOW that they did, because I recorded the 
>> darn thing.   73, Rick Dau  South Omaha, Nebraska
>>> From: wb6...@gmail.com
>>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:45:43 -0800
>>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off
>>> 
>>> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours 
>>> authority. 
>>> 
>>> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until 
>>> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit :
>>>>> As of 1850 est
>>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO"
>>>> 
>>>> Sylvain Naud
>>>> Portneuf, QC
>>>> Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW
>>>> ___
>>>> IRCA mailing list
>>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>>> 
>>>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>>> 
>>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>>> 
>>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>>> ___
>>> IRCA mailing list
>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>> 
>>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>> 
>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>> 
>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> 
>> ___
>> IRCA mailing list
>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>> 
>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>> 
>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>> 
>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> ___
> IR

Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off

2015-02-17 Thread Rick Lewis
Dennis,
I don't rrecall exactly when, (I think it was after I left Bakersfield), but I 
think the 25Kw day power for KPMC/KNZR began in the late 1980s.
I remember them as 10Kw day and night. 
They mainly signed off at midnight till the early 70s, then ran till 1 AM or 
later.
They had so many local sports commitments that a few Saturday nights they'd run 
live Bakersfield College sports, and then they'd run tape-delayed sports 
events, sometimes until nearly 5:45 AM sign-on.
--
Rick

-Original Message-
From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Gibson
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 8:47 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off

I don't know but asked someone who might. 

As for the WQEW/KNZR situation the only unusual thing I could find is that KNZR 
is a grandfathered Class A; 25 kW daytime and 10 kW nighttime. Most Class A 
stations are 50 kW full time. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Rick Dau  wrote:
> 
> And according to Earl Higgins, KCJJ in Iowa City (which was on 1560 with 1 kw 
> back in the day) was required to SIGN OFF COMPLETELY at Iowa City sunset to 
> protect KPMC and then allowed to sign back on at Bakersfield sunset!  Is that 
> true?  I asked KCJJ's current owner (someone who wasn't even involved with 
> the station until 1994) about that, and he says that was never the case.  
> But, then again, his knowledge of station history is a bit foggy.  He keeps 
> denying that they signed off 1560 for good on October 13, 1998 with the 
> Beatles' "The End", when I KNOW that they did, because I recorded the darn 
> thing.   73, Rick Dau  South Omaha, Nebraska
>> From: wb6...@gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:45:43 -0800
>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off
>> 
>> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours 
>> authority. 
>> 
>> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until 
>> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit :
>>>> As of 1850 est
>>>> --
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO"
>>> 
>>> Sylvain Naud
>>> Portneuf, QC
>>> Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW
>>> ___
>>> IRCA mailing list
>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>> 
>>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>> 
>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>> 
>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> ___
>> IRCA mailing list
>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>> 
>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>> 
>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>> 
>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 
> ___
> IRCA mailing list
> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> 
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
> contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
> editors, publishing staff, or officers
> 
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> 
> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 
___
IRCA mailing list
IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca

Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
editors, publishing staff, or officers

For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org

To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com


___
IRCA mailing list
IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca

Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
editors, publishing staff, or officers

For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org

To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com



Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off

2015-02-17 Thread Dennis Gibson
I don't know but asked someone who might. 

As for the WQEW/KNZR situation the only unusual thing I could find is that KNZR 
is a grandfathered Class A; 25 kW daytime and 10 kW nighttime. Most Class A 
stations are 50 kW full time. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:34 PM, Rick Dau  wrote:
> 
> And according to Earl Higgins, KCJJ in Iowa City (which was on 1560 with 1 kw 
> back in the day) was required to SIGN OFF COMPLETELY at Iowa City sunset to 
> protect KPMC and then allowed to sign back on at Bakersfield sunset!  Is that 
> true?  I asked KCJJ's current owner (someone who wasn't even involved with 
> the station until 1994) about that, and he says that was never the case.  
> But, then again, his knowledge of station history is a bit foggy.  He keeps 
> denying that they signed off 1560 for good on October 13, 1998 with the 
> Beatles' "The End", when I KNOW that they did, because I recorded the darn 
> thing.   73, Rick Dau  South Omaha, Nebraska
>> From: wb6...@gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:45:43 -0800
>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off
>> 
>> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours 
>> authority. 
>> 
>> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until 
>> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit :
 As of 1850 est
 --
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO"
>>> 
>>> Sylvain Naud
>>> Portneuf, QC
>>> Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW
>>> ___
>>> IRCA mailing list
>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>> 
>>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>> 
>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>> 
>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> ___
>> IRCA mailing list
>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>> 
>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>> 
>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>> 
>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 
> ___
> IRCA mailing list
> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> 
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
> contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
> editors, publishing staff, or officers
> 
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> 
> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 
___
IRCA mailing list
IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca

Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
editors, publishing staff, or officers

For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org

To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com



Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off

2015-02-17 Thread Dennis Gibson
It has PSSA in February from 6:00 to 8:00; 32 watts dropping to 25 watts. That 
must be it. It has PSSA for two hours every month; 41 watts dropping to 26 
watts in April, May, June and September and 32 watts dropping to 25 watts the 
other months. I never see any discussion of PSRA and PSSA in all of the talk 
about cheaters.

I have seen discussions regarding the accuracy of the PSRA and PSSA charts in 
the FCC database. Several smart people and some research suggest that the 
charts were issued in late February of 2007 and recalled a week or so later. 
Does anyone want to tackle that topic? 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2015, at 7:15 PM, Rick Dau  wrote:
> 
> Actually, Dennis, they're not being naughty.  I had raised this same concern 
> about KLNG a couple years ago (I live about 2 miles NNW of their stick), and 
> Glenn Hauser and others pointed out that they are allowed to stay on until 
> two hours after local sunset.  With as few listeners as they pull in (I've 
> not seen them show up in ANY book over the past 5 years), I wouldn't be 
> saddened to see KLNG disappear completely. 
> 73, Rick DauSouth Omaha, Nebraska  
>> From: wb6...@gmail.com
>> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:10:07 -0800
>> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off
>> 
>> KLNG is being naughty. It's a 10 kW daytimer with 2.1 kW critical hours. The 
>> one half wavelength tower certainly helps. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Niel Wolfish  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Right now at 2026 Eastern 1560 is WBYS in Canton IL with girls high school 
>>> basketball.   Also had a KLNG (Council Bluffs IA) ID at 2000.
>>> Niel Wolfish, Toronto 
>>> 
>>>   On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:23 AM, Rick Lewis 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Dennis,
>>> I think KNZR was a clear channel allotment when it came on the air in the 
>>> 1930s as KPMC. (1932, I think.)
>>> I don't know when the 1560 in NYC came on the air.
>>> --
>>> Rick
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Gibson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:46 PM
>>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off
>>> 
>>> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours 
>>> authority. 
>>> 
>>> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until 
>>> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud  wrote:
 
 Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit :
> As of 1850 est
> --
 
 Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO"
 
 Sylvain Naud
 Portneuf, QC
 Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW
 ___
 IRCA mailing list
 IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
 http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
 
 Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
 original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
 IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
 
 For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
 
 To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>>> ___
>>> IRCA mailing list
>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>> 
>>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>> 
>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>> 
>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> IRCA mailing list
>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>> 
>>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>> 
>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>> 
>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> IRCA mailing list
>>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>>> 
>>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>>> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
>>> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
>>> 
>>> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
>>> 
>>> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
>> ___
>> IRCA mailing list
>> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
>> 
>> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
>> original contribut

Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off

2015-02-17 Thread Rick Dau
And according to Earl Higgins, KCJJ in Iowa City (which was on 1560 with 1 kw 
back in the day) was required to SIGN OFF COMPLETELY at Iowa City sunset to 
protect KPMC and then allowed to sign back on at Bakersfield sunset!  Is that 
true?  I asked KCJJ's current owner (someone who wasn't even involved with the 
station until 1994) about that, and he says that was never the case.  But, then 
again, his knowledge of station history is a bit foggy.  He keeps denying that 
they signed off 1560 for good on October 13, 1998 with the Beatles' "The End", 
when I KNOW that they did, because I recorded the darn thing.   73, Rick Dau  
South Omaha, Nebraska
> From: wb6...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 16:45:43 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off
> 
> Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours 
> authority. 
> 
> A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until 
> sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud  wrote:
> > 
> > Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit :
> >> As of 1850 est
> >> --
> > 
> > Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO"
> > 
> > Sylvain Naud
> > Portneuf, QC
> > Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW
> > ___
> > IRCA mailing list
> > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > 
> > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
> > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> > 
> > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> > 
> > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> ___
> IRCA mailing list
> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> 
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
> contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
> editors, publishing staff, or officers
> 
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> 
> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 
  
___
IRCA mailing list
IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca

Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
editors, publishing staff, or officers

For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org

To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com



Re: [IRCA] 1560 NYC off

2015-02-17 Thread Rick Dau



Actually, Dennis, they're not being naughty.  I had raised this same concern 
about KLNG a couple years ago (I live about 2 miles NNW of their stick), and 
Glenn Hauser and others pointed out that they are allowed to stay on until two 
hours after local sunset.  With as few listeners as they pull in (I've not seen 
them show up in ANY book over the past 5 years), I wouldn't be saddened to see 
KLNG disappear completely. 
  73, Rick DauSouth Omaha, Nebraska  
> From: wb6...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:10:07 -0800
> To: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off
> 
> KLNG is being naughty. It's a 10 kW daytimer with 2.1 kW critical hours. The 
> one half wavelength tower certainly helps. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Feb 17, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Niel Wolfish  wrote:
> > 
> > Right now at 2026 Eastern 1560 is WBYS in Canton IL with girls high school 
> > basketball.   Also had a KLNG (Council Bluffs IA) ID at 2000.
> > Niel Wolfish, Toronto 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 1:23 AM, Rick Lewis 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Dennis,
> > I think KNZR was a clear channel allotment when it came on the air in the 
> > 1930s as KPMC. (1932, I think.)
> > I don't know when the 1560 in NYC came on the air.
> > --
> > Rick
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IRCA [mailto:irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Gibson
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 4:46 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> > Subject: Re: [IRCA] [mwdx] 1560 NYC off
> > 
> > Quite a few stations west of WQEW are daytimers with critical hours 
> > authority. 
> > 
> > A little trivia. WQEW is authorized to use its daytime facilities until 
> > sunset at KNZR in Bakersfield, CA; three extra hours. I don't know why. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 4:27 PM, Sylvain Naud  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Le 2015-02-17 18:59, Saul Chernos a écrit :
> >>> As of 1850 est
> >>> --
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the tip. I've just heard the WKDO ID, "15-60 AM, WKDO"
> >> 
> >> Sylvain Naud
> >> Portneuf, QC
> >> Perseus + 350ft Beverage NE-SW
> >> ___
> >> IRCA mailing list
> >> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> >> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> >> 
> >> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
> >> original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
> >> IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> >> 
> >> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> >> 
> >> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > ___
> > IRCA mailing list
> > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > 
> > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
> > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> > 
> > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> > 
> > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > 
> > 
> > ___
> > IRCA mailing list
> > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > 
> > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
> > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> > 
> > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> > 
> > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ___
> > IRCA mailing list
> > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> > 
> > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the 
> > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the 
> > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers
> > 
> > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> > 
> > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> > 
> ___
> IRCA mailing list
> IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca
> 
> Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
> contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
> editors, publishing staff, or officers
> 
> For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org
> 
> To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
> 

  
___
IRCA mailing list
IRCA@hard-core-dx.com
http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca

Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original 
contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its 
editors, publishing staff, or officers

For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org

To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com