Re: [IRCA] Chicago area questions
My apologies, Scott and Patrick.. I read question Number 2 too quick and thought it said roof top tower. Paul On Jan 3, 2008 2:58 PM, Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote: 1. Can anyone tell me if WCEV and WRLL (ex-WVON) are still a shared time situation on 1450? The FCC records indicate that they are. But I thought that had gone away. They still are shared-time. The WVON programming and calls moved to a full-time signal on 1690 (ex-WRLL), which for now is being leased from Clear Channel with an option to buy. WRLL on 1450 is a mixture of black gospel and simulcasts with WVON 1690. I often hear WVON on 1690 ID'ing with both sets of calls. WCEV is ethnic programming, on the air from 1-10 PM daily. WRLL has the rest of the airtime on 1450. 2. Can someone remind me who the station is that was transmitting from the north suburbs with several very short top-loaded towers? The last time I visited there, probably a half dozen years ago, I believe they were ethnic - possibly Polish. I believe that would be WNVR 1030 Vernon Hills. It's Polish. 3. Who was the station that was transmitting from the roof an old factory building on the near west side? I think it may have been a split site operation. But I don't recall if this was the day or night site. There are still a few rooftop antennas in Chicago - the day site of WNTD 950 might be the one you're thinking of, at 16th and Kedzie. It's partway down this page: http://www.fybush.com/sites/2006/site-061103.html WPNA 1490 Oak Park is also a rooftop antenna, as were at least some of the former 1240 share-timers (WCRW, WSBC, WEDC) that have since been combined into full-time WSBC. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- Sincerely, Paul B. Walker, Jr. www.walkerbroadcasting.com www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Chicago area questions
That's useful to know. When this is happening, it's worth sitting on 1450 for a parallel. - Original Message - From: Scott Fybush [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Chicago area questions Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote: 1. Can anyone tell me if WCEV and WRLL (ex-WVON) are still a shared time situation on 1450? The FCC records indicate that they are. But I thought that had gone away. They still are shared-time. The WVON programming and calls moved to a full-time signal on 1690 (ex-WRLL), which for now is being leased from Clear Channel with an option to buy. WRLL on 1450 is a mixture of black gospel and simulcasts with WVON 1690. I often hear WVON on 1690 ID'ing with both sets of calls. WCEV is ethnic programming, on the air from 1-10 PM daily. WRLL has the rest of the airtime on 1450. 2. Can someone remind me who the station is that was transmitting from the north suburbs with several very short top-loaded towers? The last time I visited there, probably a half dozen years ago, I believe they were ethnic - possibly Polish. I believe that would be WNVR 1030 Vernon Hills. It's Polish. 3. Who was the station that was transmitting from the roof an old factory building on the near west side? I think it may have been a split site operation. But I don't recall if this was the day or night site. There are still a few rooftop antennas in Chicago - the day site of WNTD 950 might be the one you're thinking of, at 16th and Kedzie. It's partway down this page: http://www.fybush.com/sites/2006/site-061103.html WPNA 1490 Oak Park is also a rooftop antenna, as were at least some of the former 1240 share-timers (WCRW, WSBC, WEDC) that have since been combined into full-time WSBC. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Chicago area questions
Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote: 1. Can anyone tell me if WCEV and WRLL (ex-WVON) are still a shared time situation on 1450? The FCC records indicate that they are. But I thought that had gone away. They still are shared-time. The WVON programming and calls moved to a full-time signal on 1690 (ex-WRLL), which for now is being leased from Clear Channel with an option to buy. WRLL on 1450 is a mixture of black gospel and simulcasts with WVON 1690. I often hear WVON on 1690 ID'ing with both sets of calls. WCEV is ethnic programming, on the air from 1-10 PM daily. WRLL has the rest of the airtime on 1450. 2. Can someone remind me who the station is that was transmitting from the north suburbs with several very short top-loaded towers? The last time I visited there, probably a half dozen years ago, I believe they were ethnic - possibly Polish. I believe that would be WNVR 1030 Vernon Hills. It's Polish. 3. Who was the station that was transmitting from the roof an old factory building on the near west side? I think it may have been a split site operation. But I don't recall if this was the day or night site. There are still a few rooftop antennas in Chicago - the day site of WNTD 950 might be the one you're thinking of, at 16th and Kedzie. It's partway down this page: http://www.fybush.com/sites/2006/site-061103.html WPNA 1490 Oak Park is also a rooftop antenna, as were at least some of the former 1240 share-timers (WCRW, WSBC, WEDC) that have since been combined into full-time WSBC. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Chicago area questions
In a message dated 1/3/2008 2:00:03 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WRLL on 1450 is a mixture of black gospel and simulcasts with WVON 1690. I often hear WVON on 1690 ID'ing with both sets of calls. Are you sure, Scott? To my knowledge, WRLL is Spanish Radio Latino. The change took place on September 2007 and was reported by Ken Onyschuk in NRC DX News DDXD-West #75-3. 73 Bill Dvorak Madison WI **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Chicago area questions
Thanks everyone for the response. Scott, you answered all of my questions. WNVR is the Polish station I couldn't remember. There was a discussion earlier about short AM antennas on Barry's technician reflector and I was trying to find my WNVR photos. But I couldn't remember the call letters or frequency. As I recall they were subject to a 100-foot height limit due to local restrictions. They ended up with a DA with four 36.6 degree (97-feet) towers with 9.4 degrees (25-feet) of top-loading using stiff horizontal top elements. I visited there while it was still a CP in September 2000 and had trouble finding the site even with a GPS. The towers were basically surrounded by taller trees. I'll post up some pics on one of my web sites shortly. I believe WNTD/950 was the rooftop site in question. I'm glad you got pictues of it. I didn't. But I did get a good tower hunting story. I found the site after a little searching. I'm still not exactly clear on what part of Chicago I was in. I knew better than to go on the south side alone. But I thought I was far enough west to be safe. While I was getting my camera equipment together for a walk to try and get a good angle for some pics a police cruiser drove by. He stopped about 1/2 block down and backed up to where I was. I had my camera equipment spread out on the hood of my car. It was a Sunday morning and I didn't see anyone else around the area. So I figured he thought I was suspicious. He didn't even get out of his car. He rolled down the window asked me if I had health insurance. I thought this was an odd question and I wondered why he didn't first ask what I was doing. I recall thinking that maybe he was selling health insurance on the side. I assured him that I had good health insurance. He then said that's good because with out-of-state plates and an expensive camera in this neighborhood you're probably going to need to use it in about 10 minutes. He was a bit of a smart ass. But he may have saved my life. I thanked him, threw the camera on the seat of my car, locked the door, and started looking for the fastest route back to the interstate. Patrick Griffith, CBT CBNT CRO Westminster CO http://community.webtv.net/AM-DXer/ http://community.webtv.net/N0NNK/ ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Chicago area questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/3/2008 2:00:03 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WRLL on 1450 is a mixture of black gospel and simulcasts with WVON 1690. I often hear WVON on 1690 ID'ing with both sets of calls. Are you sure, Scott? To my knowledge, WRLL is Spanish Radio Latino. The change took place on September 2007 and was reported by Ken Onyschuk in NRC DX News DDXD-West #75-3. 73 Bill Dvorak Madison WI Bill is correct - I've been going through tapes I made in Chicago earlier in the summer, and forgot that there had been a subsequent format flip! So, no, there wouldn't be a 1690 // 1450 parallel now. s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
