Re: [ITCENTER] Setting DHCP

2008-01-30 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
apakah sudah bener2 di set DHCP Server untuk Ethernet yang menuju ke
jaringan pake kabel


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Re: [ITCENTER] Re: Prosedur IT di suatu kantor

2007-12-14 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
buat mbak anita thanks berbagi pengalamannya, saya sudah dapet sedikit
gambaran. dah cari2 artikel akhirnya sedikit dapat pencerahan. nih mash
proses mempelajari dan mencoba menerapkan. Ntar klo ada manfaatnya pasti aku
share ke yang lain.


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tanya Apache

2007-12-14 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
maaf klo salah, saya juga newbie
apakah itu gak crash ama IIS nya 2003 server
klo ya... dimatikan dulu aja service IIS nya,


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Re: [ITCENTER] Re: Antivirus for Network

2007-12-14 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
pake yang gratis aja, AVG free edition. Yang penting kan update nya rutin.
Nah klo untuk terpusatnya bisa diakalin. Ada satu komputer yang selalu
update file ke grisoft dan disaimpan di directory tertentu and di share
tentunya.
Terus yang di client kita buat auto update ke folder kita arahin folder yang
telah di share dengan cara di map dulu ke drive lokal.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Re: Prosedur IT di suatu kantor

2007-12-13 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
alhamdulillah ternyata banyak yang ikut rembug msalah ini...

untuk pak Johan, mungkin bisa ngobrol via YM, ini nick saya : erdeje85

ambil panduan dari IT-IL atau COBITT yg applicable di tempat kerja
 anda. Semoga membantu


saya belum paham dengan maksud d atas, mungkin pbgasi bisa menjelaskan IT-IL
sama COBITT nya dulu, maaf belum familiar


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[ITCENTER] Prosedur IT di suatu kantor

2007-12-12 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
assalamualaikum

Langsung saja, ada beberapa permasalahan yang saya temukan jawabannya di
forum ini.
Saya bekerja di institusi pendidikan. Nah ada satu fenomena yang sampai saat
ini belum terpecahkan di tempat kami. Yaitu penerapan IT selaknya di
industri2.

Maksudnya, kami belum memiliki prosedur yang jelas mengenai pengelolaan IT,
mulai dari maintenance, perbaikan, penanganan virus, samapai dengan
disaster. Kami belum memiliki petunjuk penyusunan prosedur2 tersebut,
sehingga dalam pelaksanaannya akan lebih sistematis.

Adapun yang selama ini terjadi adalah berjalan dengan apa adanya yang
berarti tidak ada jadwal yang jelas, kapan harus cek perangkat, kapan harus
back up data, dsb.

Nah semoga teman2 IT yang berada pada posisi yang sama dengan saya, dapat
berbagai ilmu dan informasi mengenai hal tersebut.


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Re: [ITCENTER] Cara buat blog / wordpress

2007-12-12 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
langsung aja sign in 9daftar) di http://www.wordpress.com ntar ikuti
petunjuk yang sudah ada. Atau bisa juga coba
http://www.blogspot.comkayaknya yang ini lebih mudah untuk pemula.
Referemsi yang lain bisa juga
coba http://www.multiply.com nah yang bagi suka simpen2 foto, video, lagu2
dan lain2.

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[ITCENTER] Clone HDD SATA

2007-09-10 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
salam ITers
buat sobat2 IT yg dah pernah clone hdd sta bagi2 ilmu nya dunk
guwe ada masalah nih
gw clone pake Norton Ghost 2003 via HDD yang akan di clone kok kagak bisa,
Mlah sistem nya yg rusak..???
Adakah solusi yang tepat...!!!
Thanks B4 for ur atterntion.


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[ITCENTER] Windows 2003 Error

2007-08-03 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Salam ITers...

kawan IT, saya ada permasalahan yang sedikit  membuat pusing kepala..
Saya menggunakan Win 2003 Server enterprise edition untuk menangani active
directory di sebuah laboratorium.
Nah pada awalnya tidak ada masalah... semua berjalan dengan lancar.
saya sudah konfigurasi active directory, buat user, dan nyedia in space
hardisk untuk masing-masing user.
Tapi saat ini tiba-tiba domain controler sebagai penampung user dan data
tidak bisa dibrowse melalui windows explore. Padahal koneksi tidak ada
masalah. test ping OK. Bahkan dari komputer Workstation tak coba login ke
domain tidak masalah.
Masalahnya Komputer Domain Controller tidak ditemukan ketika dibrowse
melalui explore.
Nih tak lampirkan error yang muncul ketika tak paksakan manggil dengan
menggunakan UNC (mis : \\192.168.100.5)


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Re: [ITCENTER] Sofware untuk folder protection

2007-05-04 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
pake folder guard aja or file n folder protection


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Re: [ITCENTER] Windows 2003 Server

2007-04-18 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
dicoba saja, untuk dhcpnya di daftar.. artinya berdasarkan mac address.
Sehingga gak semua mesin yang nyolokin kabel ke netmork anda akan dilayani
oleh mesin dhcp server.
Semoga membantu..

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Re: [ITCENTER] Re: Login domain.., 2003 server

2007-04-11 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
aku juga ngalami hal yang sama...
pernah pake 2000 server, dan 2003 server, menurutku gak da perbedaan...
login nya cukup lama...
tuh terjadi karena waktu itu ada peningkatan jumlah user...
aku berpikir performa windows yang yang lemah...
soalnya aku pernah ngrasain PDC dengan menggunakan novell, tak lihat lancar2
aja
apa mungkin windows emang kayak gitu ya?
yang pernah ngalami share dong


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[ITCENTER] Proposal Warnet

2007-02-16 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Salam,
Buat para IT-ers yang pernah jadi konsultan sebuah warnet or punya itungan
modal and BEP nya kapan. Pokoknya perhitungan matematis untuk mendirikan
sebuah warnet, klo gak keberatan ane boleh tahu gak?!!?
Lagi butuh nih tolong ya...
bisa kirim via JAPRI
ke erdeje85[at]yahoo[dot]com


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Re: [ITCENTER] Proxy yang ideal

2007-02-06 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
ya setuju pake squid aja dah


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Re: [ITCENTER] PHP

2006-12-25 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
ya setuju coba copykan filenya ke directory root, baru panggil melalui
browser. trus klo gak salah pemanggilan echo juga harus pake tamda petik.
echo $name;
semoga membantu


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Re: [ITCENTER] DeepFreeze menyebabkan sistem restart terus

2006-12-12 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Klo untuk mas Mirza Khadnezar, kayaknya tuh versi Billing Explore harus
dirubah ke yang support deepfreeze, setahu saya ada versi khusus untuk itu,
dan harganya agak mahal dikit. Saya juga pernah ngalami.

On 12/12/06, Mirza Khadnezar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   pernah kejadian

 Windows XP + Billing Explorer versi lama + Deepfreeze

 On 12/12/06, hardian siswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED]hardian_s1983%40yahoo.com
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  - Original Message 
  From: Suardinata S.Kom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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  Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2006 8:28:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] DeepFreeze menyebabkan sistem restart terus
 
  kemungkinan besar PC nya yang masalah, anda install Deep freeze mungkin
  saat PC ada masalah saat komputer restart. coba reinstall lagi atau
 clone
  lagi, setelah OS dan aplikasi udah ready, coba ulang lagi install deep
  freeze-nya. mudah-an membantu. thanks
 
  ruhpan habiby ruhpan.habiby@ gmail.com wrote:
  menurut saya bukan pada DeepFreezenya ttp mungkin pada pc anda..
  kira-2 pc yg ada cloning senbanyak 80 pc itu speknya sama ga...?
  klw sama seharunya tidak terjadibisanya klw beda itu bisa terjadi
 soal
  klw beda os butuh menyasuaikan hardwarenya, ,, itu makan sering terjaadi
  booting...sebaik DeepFreeze itu scuritnya di enebel aja...
 
  On 12/8/06, deje nuxer [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
  
   Buat rekan-rekan yang pernah ngalami kayak kasus berikut mohon sharing
   Kasus nya gini :
   - Saya instalsi sitem dengan cara cloning ( Norton Ghost ), artinya
  hanya
   sekali melakukan isntalasi sistem + aplikasi selanjutnya di clone ke
   komputer lain.
   - Selanjutnya sistem saya deepfreeze dengan menggunakan 
   DeepFreeze2000XPSE. exe
   Awalnya tidak ada masalah, sekitar 80 komputer berjaln dengan
  semestinya.
   Namun beberapa hari setelah itu ada beberapa komputer yang selalu
 reboot
   dan
   tidak mau masuk sistem.
   Kasus sepeti ini saya tangani denagn cara clone ulang. Namun hasilnya
   tetep
   saja, wa;nya OK-Ok aja selanjutnya akan terjadi hal ayang sama.
   Nah dari beberapa kejadian yang berulang2 tersebut, apakah bener
 memang
   deepfreeze menyebabkan kasus seperti diatas. Atau ada kesalahatan
  prosedur
   dalam proses cloning???
   Mohon pencerahannya! !!!
   Terimaksih ebelumnya
  
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Re: [ITCENTER] wimax......mmm??

2006-12-11 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Yang jelas di indonesia belum ditenderkan


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Re: [ITCENTER] DeepFreeze menyebabkan sistem restart terus

2006-12-08 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
buat mas Cose kayaknya masuk akal juga. Trus ada solusi gak mas utnuk
mengatasi hal tersebut. Saya pake Windows XP SP1. Soale klo gak pake
deepfreeze agak susah ngrawatnya. Biasa komputer lab, buat experimen sama
siswa.
Apa harus pake deepfreeze yang asli ya

trus buat mas cose, sharetolkit tuh apaan??? apa sama dengan deepfreeze ??


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Re: [ITCENTER] DeepFreeze menyebabkan sistem restart terus

2006-12-08 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
thanks atas infonya, btw untuk mendapatkan sharetollkit dapetnya dimana?
bawaan nya microsoft or independent


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Re: [ITCENTER] koneksi jaringan sering error

2006-12-08 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
di trace aja mas...
1. Yang drop semua pc or beberapa aja, klo beberapa identifikasi kita lebih
sempit
2. Pc yang sering drop networknya coba cek kabelnya, dengan tester. klo ok
ke step berikutnya
3. Kabel itu coba ke komp lain jika ok, brarti portnya
4.
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[ITCENTER] DeepFreeze menyebabkan sistem restart terus

2006-12-07 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Buat rekan-rekan yang pernah ngalami kayak kasus berikut mohon sharing
Kasus nya gini :
- Saya instalsi sitem dengan cara cloning ( Norton Ghost ), artinya hanya
sekali melakukan isntalasi sistem + aplikasi selanjutnya di clone ke
komputer lain.
- Selanjutnya sistem saya deepfreeze dengan menggunakan 
DeepFreeze2000XPSE.exe
Awalnya tidak ada masalah, sekitar 80 komputer berjaln dengan semestinya.
Namun beberapa hari setelah itu ada beberapa komputer yang selalu reboot dan
tidak mau masuk sistem.
Kasus sepeti ini saya tangani denagn cara clone ulang. Namun hasilnya tetep
saja, wa;nya OK-Ok aja selanjutnya akan terjadi hal ayang sama.
Nah dari beberapa kejadian yang berulang2 tersebut, apakah bener memang
deepfreeze menyebabkan kasus seperti diatas. Atau ada kesalahatan prosedur
dalam proses cloning???
Mohon pencerahannya
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Re: [ITCENTER] Setting LAN OS Linux Mandrake 7.0 ma OS XP Pro SP1

2006-12-07 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Sebelum koneksi lan pastikan kedua adapter(NIC) sudah di kenali oleh sistem
masing2. Trus koneksi nya untuk p2p or untuk koneksi internet juga. Solanya
dari penjelasan saudara andi ada modem ADSL segala.
Klo untuk koneksi internet dengan modem ADSL berarti butuh switch lagi or
pake 2 lancard.
Saya asumsikan untuk koneksi LAN P2P,maka kabel yang di pake cross setting
ip masing2 komputer dengan subnet yang sama kemudian tes koneksi.
Klo di asumsikan untuk koneksi internet, ya pake switch aja. Semua kabel
straight (dari komA,KompB dan Modem ADSL) masukkan ke switch semua. Tinggal
set IP sesuai ISP. Konek dah...
Itu imajinasi saya, klo ada yang lebih berpengalaman... tolong dibantu dong


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 Ethernet Card D-link yang OS XP Pro nya pake Ethernet Card Onboard + Modem
 ADSL DrayTek... so yang OS linux nyambung nya lwt Modem ADSL
 DrayTek.. Bisa tulung bantu gak bro.. Udah 4 Hr-an
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Re: [ITCENTER] DeepFreeze menyebabkan sistem restart terus

2006-12-07 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
untuk hardware semua identik, mungkin hanya nomer seri aja
masalah security deepfreeze maksudnya sepertia apa??? mungkin nih ada
sedikit jalan...


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Re: [ITCENTER] SPEeDy untuk warnet

2006-12-04 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Ok makasih untuk masukannya, saya udah coba dengan menggunakan fassilitas
win server yaitu routing and remote access.


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[ITCENTER] Juklak Lomba Animasi

2006-09-12 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Mohon informasi mengenai petunjuk pelaksanaan dan penilaian Lomba kompetensi
IT, khususnya di bidang Multimedia ( Pembuatan Modul Interaktif )


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Re: [ITCENTER] Internet Ga Bs Akses Jaringan Interne

2006-07-28 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
aku juga pernah kejadian beberapa port dari switch mati(D-LINK) itu terjadi
setelah ada kejutan listrik soalnya biasanya klo ada kejutan listrik
hub(port) atau Lan Card rusak

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 maksudnya HUB pak ? Bisa aja sih pak. Cuma utk lebih pastinya, pindahkan
 dulu kabel ke port yg lain.

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 Sy ada kasus, bbrp komputer dalam jaringan LAN tidak bs mengakses Jaringan
  internet, sementara yg lain OK, dicek konfigurasi dan setting IP jg OK.
 Masalahnya sy liat Lampu Indikator di HAP beberapa tidak NYALA, itu
 barangkali indikator bg komputer yang ga bs akses jaringan dan internet.

 Nah, mungkin temen2 ada yg punya pengalaman gmn mengatasi hal ini. Thanks.


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[ITCENTER] Catridge ku kenapa ya !!???

2006-07-19 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
BUat para pakar IT, khususnya yg pernah ngalami permasalahan seperti aku,
minta tolong sharing dong!
Aku ada masalah dengan catridge canon IP1000, yaitu warna hitam nya gak
bagus, aku udah coba maintenance dengan jalan cleaning, tapi hasilnya tetep
aja, tiddak seperti biasanya klo kotor, hitam nya terlihat bergelombang?
napa ya?
Trus catridge yang satunya waktu aku tes noozle tinta hitam kagak
masalah(normal), tapi malah tinta warna nya yg bermasalah( tepatnya warna
merahnya tidak muncul sama sekali ), kira2 bissa diatasi gak?
Klo harus ganti catridge berapa?!


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Re: [ITCENTER] Ngilangin X-Window

2006-07-12 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
wah, makasih buat jawabannya, ini lagi aku coba, brarti untuk mengembalikan
ke mode x-window id nya diganti 5 ya?!

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 file  /etc/initid

 # vi /etc/inittab
 id:5:initdefault:
 ganti dengan
 id:3:initdefault:

 deje nuxer wrote:

 buat para suhu-suhu, ada beberapa pertanyaan bertkaitan dengan
 permasalahan
 yang terjadi di kantor kami.
 saya baru saja instalasi server untuk proxy-web dan DNS dengan
 menggunakan
 sistem operasi RH 9, komputer sudah disetting untuk auto ON (otomatis
 nyala
 ketika lampu baru padam) tapi masalahnya ketika kompi itu mau masuk ke
 sistem operasi RH9 (mode grafis) dia minta mouse dan keyboard nya tetep
 plug
 di port nya, padahal komp itu independen (cpu tok)
 Nah aku pingin ngilangin X-Window nya biar waktu pertama kali boot dia
 langsung masuk ke  mode teks, jadi gak perlu mouse lagi.
 Gimana caranya ya?!!
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[ITCENTER] Ngilangin X-Window

2006-07-11 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
buat para suhu-suhu, ada beberapa pertanyaan bertkaitan dengan permasalahan
yang terjadi di kantor kami.
saya baru saja instalasi server untuk proxy-web dan DNS dengan menggunakan
sistem operasi RH 9, komputer sudah disetting untuk auto ON (otomatis nyala
ketika lampu baru padam) tapi masalahnya ketika kompi itu mau masuk ke
sistem operasi RH9 (mode grafis) dia minta mouse dan keyboard nya tetep plug
di port nya, padahal komp itu independen (cpu tok)
Nah aku pingin ngilangin X-Window nya biar waktu pertama kali boot dia
langsung masuk ke  mode teks, jadi gak perlu mouse lagi.
Gimana caranya ya?!!
Thanks before


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Re: [ITCENTER] tanya script active directory

2006-06-16 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Wah kayaknya masalah kita sama mas
aku juga mau nerapin script di active directory agar client ketika login
domain langsung ngemap ke hardisk server avtive directory


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Re: [ITCENTER] Tambah Akrab Lewat YM atau GTALK

2006-06-16 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
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[ITCENTER] Ini Virus apa Spyware ya ??!!! (PLEASE!!!)

2006-06-12 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Wah... gawat.. napa kompi tiba2 ilang explorer nya trus gak bisa klik kanan
lagi, mau tak log off, e.. ternyata ilang juga tu tombol log off and
shutdown. Aku coba scan pake norton AV 2005 update seblun yg lalu, tiba2
muncul gambar tengkorak dengan latar belakang hitam.

Buat semuanya tolongin dunk, ni virus apa spyware ya!!??trus ngatasinya
gimana? masak harus install  ulang!
PLease bantuin ya!!!


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[ITCENTER] Sekuriti Komputer ???!!!

2006-05-19 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
saya ada masalah dengan komputer client di sebuah network yang penggunaanya
lebih dari satu user, jadi ya nama nya user yang bermacam2, perlakuan
terhadap pc pun bermacam2. ada yg usil ngerubah setting, ada yg mencoba buat
user baru lewat kaht, dan lain sebagainya.
Perlu diketahui saya menggunakan W2K untuk servernya, dengan service Active
Directory
Saya mohon pencerahan mengenai standart keamanan sistem (policy) yang tepat
agar dapat meminimalisir kasus2 seperti diatas.
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Re: [ITCENTER] Upgrade Windows 2000 ke 2003 sekalian Domain Controllernya terupdate

2006-05-19 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Nah aqu juga pingin tau hal tersebut
soalnya aku juga pingin upgrade
sory gal ngasih solusi malah tambah masalah
hehehe
bantu dong yang lain
please



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 Dear All,

 Ada yang punya pengalaman berhasil upgrade windows 2000 ke windows 2003
 dan di windows 2000 tersebut ada active directory.
 Bagi dong step by step dan triknya .

 Terima kasih sebelumnya
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[ITCENTER] System Idle Process

2006-05-17 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Yups
KOmputer jadi lemot puoolll, pas tak liat di Task Manager ternyata ada image
System  Idle Process, mana cpu usage nya tinggi lagi, wah pusing. Waktu
tak End Process ternyata gak bisa.
Tapi yang biki penasaran itu sebenernya system ato virus sih
Please, I need problem solving


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[ITCENTER] HDD bunyi napa ya ??!!

2006-05-16 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
tolong dunk bantu pencahin nih masalah, nih record percakapannya

rini widi: kalo pas komputer dinyalakan
bozeee: trus
rini widi: trus bunyi hardisknya
rini widi: tapi tak coba dikomputer lain hdd nya ndak problem
rini widi: kir2 kenapa ya?
bozeee: bener hdd nya yg bunyi
rini widi: yup
bozeee: klo jdd lain di komp yg tadi?
rini widi: dikomputer lain hddnya bisa booting normal
bozeee: maksudnya hd lain di pasang di komp yang sebelumnya
rini widi: oh
rini widi: kalo itu belom dicoba
rini widi: itu komputernya sodara
rini widi: tak coba di komputer lain
rini widi: tak kira hdd nya troble
rini widi: kira2 kenapa ya mas?


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Re: [ITCENTER] Komputer Blank

2006-05-15 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
udah tak pastiin keadaan monitor normal, vga normal, tapi yang belum tes
powernya.
tapi klo ram tak lepas masih ada beep, nah giliran ram tak pasang n vga tak
lepas gak ada beep, trus semua aku pasang eh monitor blank, tapi cpu tetep
nyala. numlock gak nyala sama sekali, klo misal mobonya bisa si repair gak?
berapa lama? berapa duit?
makasih tanggapannya

On 5/12/06, kasiman peranginangin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kemungkinan mobonya rusak ada, tapi coba cara sederhana ini:
 test  satu-satu, memori dicopot, ada nada beep atau tidak, kalau ada
 mobonya  masih okey, coba copot hd, masih okey, yah, dan terus coba test
 power  supplynya masih stabil nggak?, Trus test processornya, masih oke
 ndak?
   Biasanya karena listrik sering tiba-tiba mati dan tidak ada ups.
   Selamat mencoba..!

   Salam
   Kasiman Peranginangin
   

 deje nuxer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Salam kenal,
 Buat Mas2 Mbak2 N bapak2 saya minta bantuannya dong.
 Napa komp ku blank, gak muncul gambar sama sekali, awalnya  saya pikir vga
 card, tapi setelah sya coba di komp lain gak maslah, trus
 saya jadi berpikir apa mobonya yang rusak, klo iya apa bisa diperbaiki?


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[ITCENTER] Komputer Blank

2006-05-11 Terurut Topik deje nuxer
Salam kenal,
Buat Mas2 Mbak2 N bapak2 saya minta bantuannya dong.
Napa komp ku blank, gak muncul gambar sama sekali, awalnya  saya pikir vga
card, tapi setelah sya coba di komp lain gak maslah, trus
saya jadi berpikir apa mobonya yang rusak, klo iya apa bisa diperbaiki?


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