Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-11 Terurut Topik hajid

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ada info kalo mikrotik bisa lewatin 802.1q tp saya lom pernah coba
 yg ditanya hardware wireless, dijawabnya router software .  Jaka
 sembung :(

sory bro...mungkin wireless box pake software mikrotik. dan saya ga jaka
sembung kok...karena biasanya kalo pemain wireless dah ngerti kalo just
say mikrotik. karena memang mikrotik itu = router software. peace






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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-09 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ada info kalo mikrotik bisa lewatin 802.1q tp saya lom pernah coba
yg ditanya hardware wireless, dijawabnya router software .  Jaka 
sembung :(




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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-08 Terurut Topik hajid
ada info kalo mikrotik bisa lewatin 802.1q tp saya lom pernah coba

 The_Eye_In_The_Sky wrote:

 Wah, your requirement, pakai 802.1q segala sudah menyerupai trunking
 microwave punya NAP-class company, jangan jangan habis ini pakai MPLS
 juga :P

 Hehehe, nggak sampai MPLS kok pak :D

 Saya gak mampu jawab, tapi bagaimana kalau pertanyaan ini dibawa ke
 milis indo-wli? Saya pikir pasti banyak yg mengerti di sana.

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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-07 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
- Cygnus - wrote:

 Rencananya sih malah di frekwensi 30 GHz ke atas pak. Kalau dipikir2 sih
 jarak aktual kemungkinan nggak sampai 20 km.

Wah 30 GHz? Siyul siyul... saya sendiri gak berani pasang device 
dengan frekuensi setinggi itu, salah sedikit resiko kehilangan arah atau 
leakage besar sekali.
Yg saya pernah coba itu punya Eion Wireless : www.eionwireless.com, 
model Ranger 5050. Tapi ya maximum range cuman 15km. Tapi coba saja yg 
model lain juga ada. Hanya saja, hindari yg ISM band, karena 5.4 GHz 
juga sudah mulai saturated oleh 802.11a.



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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-07 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -
The_Eye_In_The_Sky wrote:

 Wah 30 GHz? Siyul siyul... saya sendiri gak berani pasang device
 dengan frekuensi setinggi itu, salah sedikit resiko kehilangan arah atau
 leakage besar sekali.







Untuk gambaran, device nya seperti Pasolink punya NEC yang menurut 
informasi di website  produk tsb bisa main di frekuensi atas. Dan kalo 
memungkinkan yang support VLAN 802.1q juga (sepertinya produk yang saya 
sebutkan di atas nggak support 802.1q CMIIW).
Nah kira2 ada nggak ya produk lain yang bisa menjawab kebutuhan saya di 
atas dan juga harganya tidak terlalu mahal (yang diatas itu denger2 
lumayan mahal), tetapi kualitas dan supportnya bagus.

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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-07 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
- Cygnus - wrote:
 memungkinkan yang support VLAN 802.1q juga (sepertinya produk yang saya 
 sebutkan di atas nggak support 802.1q CMIIW).
 Nah kira2 ada nggak ya produk lain yang bisa menjawab kebutuhan saya di 
 atas dan juga harganya tidak terlalu mahal (yang diatas itu denger2 
 lumayan mahal), tetapi kualitas dan supportnya bagus.
   
Wah, your requirement, pakai 802.1q segala sudah menyerupai trunking 
microwave punya NAP-class company, jangan jangan habis ini pakai MPLS 
juga :P
Saya gak mampu jawab, tapi bagaimana kalau pertanyaan ini dibawa ke 
milis indo-wli? Saya pikir pasti banyak yg mengerti di sana.





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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-07 Terurut Topik kurniawan hery
Wimax itu sebenarnya sudah ada regulasinya frekwensi yang di pakai ada 3 band 
kalo nggak salah 2,6 Ghz, 3,5 Ghz dan 4,2 Ghz. Dan sudah ada provider yang 
sudah memiliki lisensi dari frekuwensi tsb dan siap lunching wimax pada tahun 
ini. Kalo salah mohon di maafkan ..


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From: - Cygnus - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2007 11:34:31 AM
Subject: Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

The_Eye_In_The_ Sky wrote:

 Nah ini problemnya, kamu willing untuk mencoba di band yg lebih exotic
 tidak?
 Secara de facto 2.4 GHz sudah noisy kalau di kota besar Indonesia. You
 will collide with somebody else there. 10Mbps bisa dilupakan saja kalo
 masih ngotot di situ. Solusinya adalah pakai Wimax 802.16(a/d) Tapi
 sampai saat ini belum jelas pengoperasiannya di band mana, karena spec
 asal ada di 10-66 GHz, kemudian varian 802.16a 2-11 GHz. Yg dipakai di
 Aceh ada di 3.3 GHz.

 Nah kalo sudah setuju dengan pemikiran tersebut, baru dicari alatnya.
 Tapi saya juga gak jamin lisensinya kalo tidak dipakai di Aceh
 bagaimana, saya kurang tahu

Rencananya sih malah di frekwensi 30 GHz ke atas pak. Kalau dipikir2 sih
jarak aktual kemungkinan nggak sampai 20 km.

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RE: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-07 Terurut Topik Agustinus
 

-bener tuh,,,makin besar frek makin pendek jarak yang dapat
ditempuh,,yah saya sih belum pernah pasang yang 30ghz,

coba reasearch lagi deh,,maap kalo salah yah
ommaklum saya juga Cuma nubi:D:D:D

- Cygnus - wrote:

 Rencananya sih malah di frekwensi 30 GHz ke atas pak. Kalau dipikir2
sih
 jarak aktual kemungkinan nggak sampai 20 km.

Wah 30 GHz? Siyul siyul... saya sendiri gak berani pasang device 
dengan frekuensi setinggi itu, salah sedikit resiko kehilangan arah atau

leakage besar sekali.
Yg saya pernah coba itu punya Eion Wireless : www.eionwireless.com, 
model Ranger 5050. Tapi ya maximum range cuman 15km. Tapi coba saja yg 
model lain juga ada. Hanya saja, hindari yg ISM band, karena 5.4 GHz 
juga sudah mulai saturated oleh 802.11a.

 


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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-07 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -

The_Eye_In_The_Sky wrote:

 Wah, your requirement, pakai 802.1q segala sudah menyerupai trunking
 microwave punya NAP-class company, jangan jangan habis ini pakai MPLS
 juga :P

Hehehe, nggak sampai MPLS kok pak :D

 Saya gak mampu jawab, tapi bagaimana kalau pertanyaan ini dibawa ke
 milis indo-wli? Saya pikir pasti banyak yg mengerti di sana.

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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik kurniawan hery
produk-produk dari cina seperti jetcom atau sejenisnya murah kocoba aja


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Subject: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

Dear all,

Untuk PTP wireless, produk yang bagus dan tidak terlalu mahal apa ya?
Kebutuhan sih paling nggak untuk jarak sekitar 20 km dan untuk bandwidth
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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik The_Eye_In_The_Sky
- Cygnus - wrote:
 Dear all,

 Untuk PTP wireless, produk yang bagus dan tidak terlalu mahal apa ya?
 Kebutuhan sih paling nggak untuk jarak sekitar 20 km dan untuk bandwidth
 sekitar 10 Mbps.

Nah ini problemnya, kamu willing untuk mencoba di band yg lebih exotic 
tidak?
Secara de facto 2.4 GHz sudah noisy kalau di kota besar Indonesia. You 
will collide with somebody else there. 10Mbps bisa dilupakan saja kalo 
masih ngotot di situ. Solusinya adalah pakai Wimax 802.16(a/d) Tapi 
sampai saat ini belum jelas pengoperasiannya di band mana, karena spec 
asal ada di 10-66 GHz, kemudian varian 802.16a 2-11 GHz. Yg dipakai di 
Aceh ada di 3.3 GHz.

Nah kalo sudah setuju dengan pemikiran tersebut, baru dicari alatnya. 
Tapi saya juga gak jamin lisensinya kalo tidak dipakai di Aceh 
bagaimana, saya kurang tahu



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Re: [ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-06 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -
The_Eye_In_The_Sky wrote:

 Nah ini problemnya, kamu willing untuk mencoba di band yg lebih exotic
 tidak?
 Secara de facto 2.4 GHz sudah noisy kalau di kota besar Indonesia. You
 will collide with somebody else there. 10Mbps bisa dilupakan saja kalo
 masih ngotot di situ. Solusinya adalah pakai Wimax 802.16(a/d) Tapi
 sampai saat ini belum jelas pengoperasiannya di band mana, karena spec
 asal ada di 10-66 GHz, kemudian varian 802.16a 2-11 GHz. Yg dipakai di
 Aceh ada di 3.3 GHz.

 Nah kalo sudah setuju dengan pemikiran tersebut, baru dicari alatnya.
 Tapi saya juga gak jamin lisensinya kalo tidak dipakai di Aceh
 bagaimana, saya kurang tahu

Rencananya sih malah di frekwensi 30 GHz ke atas pak. Kalau dipikir2 sih
jarak aktual kemungkinan nggak sampai 20 km.


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[ITCENTER] PTP wireless

2007-06-05 Terurut Topik - Cygnus -
Dear all,

Untuk PTP wireless, produk yang bagus dan tidak terlalu mahal apa ya?
Kebutuhan sih paling nggak untuk jarak sekitar 20 km dan untuk bandwidth
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