Re: [iText-questions] Document metadata: Application

2007-08-26 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Olivier Lefevre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, 26 August, 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Document metadata: Application


> No, I don't mean the Producer field: I mean the Application field, no more
> no less. Look up under File -> Properties -> Description: there _is_ such
a
> field, under the two date fields.
>
> I tried to add it myself to the sources by making the obvious
modifications
> to the files with an AUTHOR variable and updating the jar

Why, pray tell, are you trying to mdify the iText library to do this?

Can't you just use the methods that are already provided, e.g., see the
example on page 55 of the book.

Don't have the book? That's baby step number one, several steps before
trying to run (away?) with iText.

Cheers,
Bill Segraves

> but now I don't
> any PDF when calling iText but I don't get any error either: it just exits
> without creating any file. My guess is that an exception is thrown
> somewhere, silently swallowed and that iText then exits. How does one go
> about debugging such a situation? And before you warn me again, yes I know
> about the LGPL ;-)
>
> Regards,
>
> -- O.L.
>
>
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Re: [iText-questions] reset coordinate system for different pdfs

2007-08-23 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, 23 August, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] reset coordinate system for different pdfs


> Editing the MediaBox is NOT the same as "re-aligning the origin" of
> the document, since your content coordinates may/will NOT change to
> match.

Mea culpa! Leonard is indeed correct.

I was thinking along the lines of changing the position of the "knothole"
through which I am viewing the document, i.e., IMO, the only origin that
makes sense to a human viewer. The strategy I advocated is believed to be
correct for that scenario.

Cheers,
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Re: [iText-questions] image- how to maintain ratio

2007-08-23 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Paulo Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, 23 August, 2007 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] image- how to maintain ratio


> scaletofit keeps the same ratio, scaleabsolute doesn't.
>
> Paulo

scaleAbsolute doesn't keep the same ratio, except when it does ... ;-)

e.g.,

img.scaleAbsolute(SF*imgWidth,SF*imgHeight);

where SF = Scale Factor

certainly preserves the subject ratio, provided imgWidth and imgHeight are
the dimensions of the image.

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Re: [iText-questions] reset coordinate system for different pdfs

2007-08-23 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, 23 August, 2007 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] reset coordinate system for different pdfs


> Let's rephrase that...
>
> It is POSSIBLE to reset it - it's just not trivial.   There are
> software products on the market place today that can "re-align" the
> MediaBox back to lower-left 0,0.
>
> Leonard

In fact, it is sometimes possible to do it with your text editor, e.g., GVim
with the Pdftk plugin can be used to edit the MediaBox coordinates.
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Re: [iText-questions] One question.

2007-08-03 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Sergio GarcĂ­a Maroto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, 03 August, 2007 6:50 AM
Subject: [iText-questions] One question.


Hello.
I have two questions.
1) I would like know the pages number of a existent pdf document.
2) Can I transform the words in a pdf document in a string variable.


Stepping around the paradox posed in this article ...

1. There is an "inspection" tool in the iText Toolbox, which is bundled with
versions 1.4.0 through 2.02. of the Itext library. It will tell you the
number of pages in a PDF.

2. Generally, no, because the words that you "see" in your PDF viewer may
not be whole words at all in the PDF itself. You could even programmatically
extract all of the word fragments that are in a PDF; but you'd have no
assurance they'd make any sense.

Cheers,
Bill Segraves


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Re: [iText-questions] set the border of a checkbox

2007-07-21 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "feanor7" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, 21 July, 2007 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] set the border of a checkbox


>
> Sorry if I am new to itext (I will be ordering the book this week),

If you really, really want to learn how to use iText, I'm thinking you
should have a great deal more urgency about getting the book. You can go to
www.lowagie.com, click on the "Order the eBook" link, and proceed directly
to ordering the book online, after which you'll have have access to the
Author's support site, as well as the examples.

> but I
> have an urgent need to figure this out soon. Can you clarify further what
> you said, or point me in the right direction or to a simple example?

See the example, FormCheckbox.java, in the Tutorial. That should help you
see how it's done.

Cheers,
Bill Segraves


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Re: [iText-questions] Populate forms that do not use Acro Fields

2007-07-16 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, 14 July, 2007 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Populate forms that do not use Acro Fields


> - Original Message -
> From: "scott carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, 14 July, 2007 3:35 PM
> Subject: [iText-questions] Populate forms that do not use Acro Fields
>
>
> > I have a collection of forms that I need to automatically populate based
> on
> > data in our database.  I have looked at the Register example on the
site,
> > and the example works great for forms that use Acro Fileds (
> > PdfStamper.getAcroFileds()).
>
> Yes, but the examples in the tutorial can only carry you so far. What you
> really, really need to do if you wish to work with iText is purchase a
copy
> of the book _iText in Action_ (see the "Buy the eBook" link at
> www.lowagie.com/iText).
>
> > I am running into several forms that do not
> > return any fields using this approach that I need to find a way to
> > populate.
>
> You should not expect to be able to populate fields that do not (yet)
exist.
> Burn this fact into your brain permanently. You'll be glad you did.
>
> > I am a beginner, so any help is greatly apprciated. One of the
> > forms that I need to figure out how to populate but does not have a Acro
> > fileds is found here ->
> > https://www.pfizerhelpfulanswers.com/files/C2C_English.pdf .   Anyone
know
> > how to do this?
> >
>
> Yes. There are several examples in the book (see Chapters 2 and 15) and on
> the book support site that will be helpful to you in your quest to convert
> PDF forms (unfillable) into AcroForms (fillable).
>
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
>
> You're very welcome! Reminders: (1) Buy the book. (2) You can't fill
fields
> that don't (yet) exist.

1. Have you bought the book?

2. To help you get started, you should look at the TextFields example in the
Tutorial. Using this example as a guide, you should be able to write a class
that will create all of the text fields that you need for your PDF form.

3. Now that you have an AcroForm (created in 2 above), you may wish to add
content to the form. See the example HelloWorldStamper in Chapter 2 of the
book for guidance on a way to add the C2C_English.pdf form as "under"
content, like a watermark, to your AcroForm (created in 2 above).

4. Now that you've generated an AcroForm that looks like your original
C2C_English.pdf form, you are ready to populate the fields. Remember: You
cannot fill (populate) fields that do not (yet) exist.

I hope this is helpful to you.

Cheers,
Bill Segraves


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Re: [iText-questions] Populate forms that do not use Acro Fields

2007-07-14 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "scott carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, 14 July, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: [iText-questions] Populate forms that do not use Acro Fields


> I have a collection of forms that I need to automatically populate based
on
> data in our database.  I have looked at the Register example on the site,
> and the example works great for forms that use Acro Fileds (
> PdfStamper.getAcroFileds()).

Yes, but the examples in the tutorial can only carry you so far. What you
really, really need to do if you wish to work with iText is purchase a copy
of the book _iText in Action_ (see the "Buy the eBook" link at
www.lowagie.com/iText).

> I am running into several forms that do not
> return any fields using this approach that I need to find a way to
> populate.

You should not expect to be able to populate fields that do not (yet) exist.
Burn this fact into your brain permanently. You'll be glad you did.

> I am a beginner, so any help is greatly apprciated. One of the
> forms that I need to figure out how to populate but does not have a Acro
> fileds is found here ->
> https://www.pfizerhelpfulanswers.com/files/C2C_English.pdf .   Anyone know
> how to do this?
>

Yes. There are several examples in the book (see Chapters 2 and 15) and on
the book support site that will be helpful to you in your quest to convert
PDF forms (unfillable) into AcroForms (fillable).

> Thanks in advance.
>

You're very welcome! Reminders: (1) Buy the book. (2) You can't fill fields
that don't (yet) exist.

Cheers,

Bill Segraves




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Re: [iText-questions] Using images in PDF

2007-07-04 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 04 July, 2007 2:27 AM
Subject: [iText-questions] Using images in PDF


>
> hi am using getInstance(String filename) method to include an mage in
order
> to generate pdf . is there any mechanism to check if the given file name
> exits or not using itext.Ex-
>
> if filename = c:\iamges\xyz.jpg, and xyz.jpg doen`t exits so i would like
> soem defaul image to be displayed  .what should be the approach to solve
> this problem.

"Section 5.5.1 Getting the Image instance" on pp. 158-159 of _iText in
Action_ should be helpful to you.

You should also be able to adapt the try-catch exception handling code in
the NUp tool from the iText Toolbox (See the code that sets a default of "1"
for "pow2").

Cheers,
Bill Segraves

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Re: [iText-questions] very important iText question

2007-06-08 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Carsten Heuchel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, 07 June, 2007 4:12 AM
Subject: [iText-questions] very important iText question


> I have a very important question:

 > How can I cut an Image?

See the TemplateClip example in Chapter 11 of the book.

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Re: [iText-questions] jpeg to PDF

2007-06-06 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Irina Morin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, 06 June, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: [iText-questions] jpeg to PDF


 I am trying to convert jpeg images to PDF.  Please advice.

Check out the PhotoAlbum tool in the iText Toolbox, as well as Chapter 5 in
the book _iText in Action_, for which you can find a link on
www.lowagie.com/iText.

If you have the book, you already have all of the bits and pieces of code
you need to craft your own class for the subject conversion.

Cheers
Bill Segraves

P.S. This author has submitted classes, ScaleIMage, ScaleAndTileImage, and
ScaleAndTilePDF, as well as a suggested enhancement of PhotoAlbum, for
possible inclusion in the iText Toolbox. When they are available, you'll be
able to do more than you can do with just PhotoAlbum.


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Re: [iText-questions] Hello. I need to run concat_pdf.java on Linux

2007-06-04 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Vera Lucero" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, 04 June, 2007 4:10 PM
Subject: [iText-questions] Hello. I need to run concat_pdf.java on Linux


> Do you have any examples on how to run iText.jar on Linux?

Yes.

> I copied the iText.jar and concat_pdf.java to Linux and trying to set it
up to run.

Compile the concat_pdf.java. Use the resulting class as follows:

java -classpath ./itext.jar:. concat_pdf list_of_arguments

Cheers,
Bill Segraves

P.S. Your question is not really an iText question,; but rather is a Java
question.

P.S.2. Alternatively, just run the Toolbox and use the Concat tool from the
Toolbox.





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Re: [iText-questions] AcroForms

2007-05-17 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Paulo Soares" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Thursday, 17 May, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] AcroForms


> http://itext.ugent.be/library/question.php?id=43
>
> Paulo
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joe L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:25 PM
> Subject: [iText-questions] AcroForms

> > I want to have people save data in forms and be able to email the form
to
> > me with the data in it.

Here's a feasible approach:

1. Use a server-side script to capture the form data from an FDF/XFDF submit
action, or to convert the (HTML) submitted form data into FDF/XFDF.
2. Using iText, merge the FDF/XFDF from 1 above into the target PDF.
3. Return the merged PDF to the client-side browser (or provide a link to
the merged PDF).

The above approach can be used with Acrobat Reader, as long as the
server-side process does not exist on the same computer as the client-side
browser, i.e., a "localhost" server.

While it is indeed feasible to do the "localhost" magic above *without*
Acrobat Reader, i.e., with one or more of the alternative viewers, it is,
IMO, hardly worth the effort, as this approach would place too great a
burdon on the client-side user's resources. See the thread entitled
"Formular Submit from PDF" for an alternative approach that does not require
the use of Adobe Reader, but which is not recommended by this author.

Cheers,

Bill Segraves


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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF

2007-04-30 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Monday, 30 April, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF



> > Furthermore, based on Leonard's interpretation, it does not appear
> > to be a
> > violation of the reader 7 EULA if the form data that is being used
> > to fill
> > the PDF did not originate from a submittal from a PDF form, e.g.,
> > submittal
> > from an HTML form.
> >
>
> Also correct.  If you submit from an HTML form and have your
> localhost server return a filled PDF - that's also fine (and in fact,
> a wonderful thing!).

This is the workaround I've developed for systems that don't have Reader at
all, e.g., Knoppix 5.x live Linux CD.

1. Server-side script emits HTML with three frames
a. Top frame contains an HTML form for entry of the form field that is
to be filled
b. Bottom-left frame contains an image map overlaid on a JPEG image of
the target PDF, each hot zone of which is defined something like

http://localhost/cgi-bin/sarapp_script_v2.pl?NatNo="; ALT="NatNo"
TARGET=top>

There are over 170 such hot zones in the current example, one for each form
field in the target PDF form. The COORDS are extracted directly from the
iText source that was used to generate the PDF form, using a Perl program
that parses the iText source. The JPEG of the PDF form was generated with
ImageMagik.

The above describes just one page of the 2-page form. The second page would
be of similar size, re: no. of form fields.

c. Bottom-right frame contains the merged PDF, which has been produced
and saved on the server-side of the transaction. The PDF is displayed with
whatever plugin is used as the default viewer.

So, based on Leonard's interpretation above, this is "fine (and in fact,
a wonderful thing!)", although it is, IMO, an "ugly hack" in view of what
could be done very neatly with Reader and proper server-side support.

Now, while this appears to be completely compliant with the Reader 7 EULA,
it seems to me to be a bit silly to have to resort to such a scheme to get
around a EULA limitation that is aimed at protecting the Reader Extensions'
marketability, especially when Reader, with or without the Reader
Extensions, is incapable of doing some of the things that need to be done,
e.g., shifting genealogical data up or down by one or more generations.

OTOH, perhaps all I need to do is add the appropriate "submit" actions to a
Reader-Enabled form. Leonard, is it your opinion that the Reader 7 EULA
would PERMIT localhost serving of a filled AcroForm if said use involves a
form that is Reader-Enabled?

Please note that it is not my aim to circumvent any of Adobe's EULA
limitations; but rather, it is to produce the most efficient products that
operate within the EULA limitations.

Many thanks for your continued interest in this thread.

Best regards,
--
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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF

2007-04-30 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Bruno Lowagie (iText)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Monday, 30 April, 2007 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF


> Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
> > On Apr 29, 2007, at 8:41 PM, William Alexander Segraves wrote:
>
> >> So, if a Java-iText class is provided that does the merging on the
> >> client-side of the transaction, separately from the interaction
> >> between the
> >> client browser and the "localhost" server, this would be O.K. Right?
>
> > If the localhost server communicates in any way with the iText class
> > that is doing the saving - then you are in violation.
>
> I must admit that I haven't followed the complete discussion,
> but I interpreted the question as: is there a way to run iText
> on the client-side (in the browser / with or without connection
> to the localhost) instead of on the server-side (risking a
> license violation).
>

No, that wasn't the question at all. The question was about localhost
serving of a filled PDF to a client-side browser with Reader 7 operating as
a plugin, when the form data has originated from a "submit" action from a
PDF, thereby making it possible for the user to save a copy of his filled
PDF without having to employ Reader Extensions.

Based on Leonard's interpretations of the EULA, it appears that any
client-side->server-side->client-side interaction, done solely on the same
computer without any required user action such as running a command line
script to merge data with the PDF, would be in violation of the Reader 7
EULA.

Furthermore, based on Leonard's interpretation, it does not appear to be a
violation of the reader 7 EULA if the form data that is being used to fill
the PDF did not originate from a submittal from a PDF form, e.g., submittal
from an HTML form.

OTOH, since Bruno raised that question, it is indeed possible to do what he
suggested, i.e. run iText on the client-side, e.g., by embedding Javascript
in the returned HTML that executes a "jarred" Java-iText class. IMO, this
would not be a good solution for deployment as a web-based application, as
there is no way to ensure the client-side user has the required support
software installed on his/her computer, or that the user has JavaScript
support enabled in the browser configuration.

IMO, based on what Leonard wrote, this too would be in violation of the
Reader 7 EULA.

> I guess William is thinking of some way to send the data
> filled in in Adobe Reader to a Java Applet, and have the
> applet create a new PDF with all the fields filled in.
> I don't see how this would be different from what is
> forbidden by the EULA, but for argument's sake, have
> a look at the following small prototypes I recently made.
>

Well, no. That's not what I was thinking. Anyway, thanks for pointing out
the examples, Bruno. More on those later, when I've had a chance to review
them.


> In practice, this is probably not only in violation with
> the EULA, it also has the smell of being a hack.
> I'm sure the examples I'm referring to don't work on all
> browser/reader versions, and that's sufficient reason for
> a NO-GO when I'm asked for my opinion.
> I've made these examples because I was asked if it's possible
> to establish a communication between HTML and PDF; however,
> I wasn't asked for my opinion.

Bruno, your opinion is always welcome in any technical discussion in which I
am engaged.

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--
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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF

2007-04-30 Thread William Alexander Segraves
- Original Message -
From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Monday, 30 April, 2007 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF


> On Apr 29, 2007, at 8:41 PM, William Alexander Segraves wrote:
> >> The localhost server can save the data to it's own data-store all it
> >> wants - no problems!   It is the creation of a filled-in PDF via the
> >> server process that creates the violation.
> >>
> >
> > So, if a Java-iText class is provided that does the merging on the
> > client-side of the transaction, separately from the interaction
> > between the
> > client browser and the "localhost" server, this would be O.K. Right?
> >
>
> If the localhost server communicates in any way with the iText class
> that is doing the saving - then you are in violation.

Leonard, he scenario I had in mind was this:

1. Client-side browser "submits" to "localhost" server.
2. Localhost server parses submitted data, converting same into FDF/XFDF.
3. Localhost server returns FDF/XFDF in 2 above to client browser.
4. User saves the FDF/XFDF to a file.
5. User executes a command line process, e.g., Pdftk or an iText class, that
merges the FDF/XFDF with a fillable PDF.

5(alt). User merges the FDF/XFDF with a fillable PDF with Acrobat.

I do not believe the process described in steps 1 - 5 above is in violation
of any Reader EULA, although it fits the description in the above statement:

"If the localhost server communicates in any way with the iText class
that is doing the saving - then you are in violation."

Perhaps Leonard meant:

"If the localhost server communicates in any way independent of operator
action with the iText class that is doing saving of a filled PDF on the
computer which is the localhost server, then the user of Reader is in
violation of the Reader EULA."

IMO, the problem we are having with the Adobe Reader EULA (v. 7 & up?) is
that a legitimate use of other software on a localhost server, e.g., Pdftk,
iText, to merge FDF/XFDF with a PDF, serving same to the client browser, is
deemed by Adobe to be the same as enabling Reader to Save/SaveAs.

If this interpretation is allowed to stand, Adobe will be placing every
developer who thoroughly tests his products, including testing on a
localhost server, in violation of the Reader EULA.

As the EULA currently stands, it appears I can do all the testing (of
software that creates and saves a filled PDF on localhost servers that I
wish to do up to and including Reader 6; but if I wish to test the same
processes on Reader 7, I must fire up another computer on my network, or
worse yet, deploy the software to a remote host, in order to complete the
testing. Pardon the expression for frustration, but it seems to be just
plain "dumb" to place such restrictions on developers, who, after all, are
licensed to use the full product.

Perhaps the problem with the EULA could be fixed by adding an exception for
testing by developers, or an exception for licensees of the full
distribution of Acrobat, any version.

More later, as this issue has not been satisfactorily resolved.

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--
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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF

2007-04-29 Thread William Alexander Segraves
- Original Message -
From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Sunday, 29 April, 2007 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF


> On Apr 29, 2007, at 4:13 PM, William Alexander Segraves wrote:
> > I've
> > read that Adobe views iText as a competitive threat; but hope that
> > view has
> > changed. Clearly, iText has significant value to Adobe, else it
> > wouldn't be
> > distributed with any Adobe products.
> >
>
> I don't know where you read that, but I would say that it is
> completely UNTRUE!

Perhaps I misinterpreted what I read. Regardless, I'd prefer not to
attribute the untruth to someone whom I might have misinterpreted. Thank you
for the clarification.

> As you point out, Adobe ships iText with some of
> it's server products (two, I believe - LiveCycle PDF Generator and
> ColdFusion, IIRC).  I have also recommend it's use in other projects
> as well.  If anything, we are committed to HELPING iText...
>

Good. I'm glad to hear that from someone directly connected with Adobe.
>
> > Indeed. The only concern I had about the EULA was that the Reader
> > EULA for
> > Reader 7 (and up, I presume), prohibits the use of Reader on the same
> > computer or network with software that makes it possible to save a
> > filled
> > PDF (thereby circumventing the need for Reader Extensions).
>
> Same computer, yes.  Same network, no.
>

So I'm O.K. if I do the server-side goodies (providing a filled PDF that is
savable) on another computer (server) on my network, e.g., the computer in
my WRT54G wireless router, or any other computer on my LAN.

>
> > I understand. So, it's O.K. for the "localhost" server-side
> > software to save
> > the form data, as long as the server-side process does not save a
> > copy of
> > the filled PDF.
>
> Correct.
>
> The localhost server can save the data to it's own data-store all it
> wants - no problems!   It is the creation of a filled-in PDF via the
> server process that creates the violation.
>

So, if a Java-iText class is provided that does the merging on the
client-side of the transaction, separately from the interaction between the
client browser and the "localhost" server, this would be O.K. Right?

>
> > Is it also O.K. for the "localhost" server-side process to "emit" a
> > filled
> > PDF, e.g., a dynamically-filled PDF via an iText class?
> >
>
> No, it is not.  That is what we wish to prevent, since that's
> functionality equivalent to "Save As".
>

I understand.

>
> >> We already offer dynamic forms support via XFA forms.  They are VERY
> >> powerful including both single field dynamism as well as entire "sub
> >> forms" that can grow and shrink.   Try it - you'll like it!
> >>
> >
> > Perhaps there's a potential solution here for the problems I've
> > described. I
> > look forward to trying it. Do all these capabilities exist with the
> > free
> > Reader, or ar Reader Extensions required to play nicely with them?
> >
>
> Yes, all this works quite nicely in Reader!   If you want to be able
> to save a copy locally, then you also need Reader Extensions.

You mean a copy of the filled PDF. Naturally, there's no violation of any
aspect of the Reader EULA if a localhost-based process provided a savable
fory of the form data, e.g., FDF, XFDF, URL-encoded name=value pairs.

> But if
> you only want to work with the form and then submit data to a server,
> you need only Reader.
>

And, in this case, it doen't matter where the server is located, including
on the same computer that initiates the "submit" action.

>
> > O.K. One thing comes to mind. It seems that Reader 7 does not
> > support an
> > "Import Form Data" action, a capability that WAS provided in all prior
> > versions of Reader that I've tested, i.e., v. 3 through 5 (I
> > haven't tested
> > this assertion with v. 6).
> >
>
> I'd need to check to be certain, but I am pretty sure that this
> works just fine with Reader 8.

Thanks. I'll try it myself next time I'm on a computer with Reader 8.

Best regards,
--
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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF

2007-04-29 Thread William Alexander Segraves
Leonard,

Please see inline responses below.

Thanks and best regards,

Bill Segraves
- Original Message -
From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Sunday, 29 April, 2007 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF


> On Apr 28, 2007, at 11:18 PM, William Alexander Segraves wrote:
> > Example: Consider a lineage society application such as those
> > found at
> > www.sar.org. The "Reader Enablement" is totally irrelevant to the
> > solution
> > to the problem of shifting all genealogical data by a generation
> > (or two) to
> > accomodate the preparation of an application for a son (or
> > grandson) of the
> > original applicant.
>
> I couldn't find the actual form on their site or yours :(.  Can you
> send me one to look at and maybe then I can make a determination?
>

Oops! Mea culpa. I should have given you a specific URL.

http://www.sar.org/membership/application.html

On this page, you'll see several variants of the SAR application, i.e., the
Cox program, which is not free, and three others, all free.

The file SAR_App.PDF (Reader Enabled) was added recently. It has the Reader
Extensions, as you can see. Unfortunately, the developer (unknown) of it
used a  numbering scheme for the form fields that is different from the
SAR980915.PDF (Segraves) scheme that has been in place for nearly 10 years.
This makes it impossible for existing import capabilities of the Cox program
and the Segraves program(s) to be used to import from data that is exported
from the Reader-Enabled PDF form.

The SARAppAid (Cox) has been around for several years. It has enjoyed the
most widespread use by applicants, including those that are doing multiple
applications, e.g., for relatives or for supplemental ancestors. The block
copy&paste capability of the Cox program is what makes it very efficient to
move data up or down by one or more generations to accomodate adding
additional genealogical data.

The Bristor form is an MSWord template, also free.

Finally, the Segraves forms were the first, AFAIK, among the many lineage
and patriotic societies to use fillable PDF forms for applications, having
been first deployed almost 10 years ago. These forms were first "hatched" to
provide a "free" computer-based application that could be used on any
computer with Acrobat Reader. Mrs. Segraves and I gifted the existing form
at the SAR web site to the Society; but we never gifted any of the
server-side goodies or later forms because SAR was not willing to provide
the hosting for the forms and scripts.

The form at the SAR web site has none of the server-side goodies that are
provided at my Tripod site, http://segraves.tripod.com. The SAR application
PDF is now protected with both owner and user passwords; so you'll need a
link to an unprotected form if you wish to look at the form. Please let me
know privately if you'd like to see an example. Or, you could simply
register as a user, and I'll provide the user password and the link to the
PDF with the goodies.

The best goodie, available only to registered users on request, is a PDF
form with multiple "submit" buttons, each of which sends the form data to a
(Perl) script that does soemething special with the form data, e.g., move
the data up or down by a generation.

>
> > Leonard, I detect a hint of "hostility" among the Adobe culture re:
> > referring to a "submit" action to a "localhost" server as a "hack."
> > WADR,
> > it's not a hack.
> >
>
> I use "hack" in that you are using a feature in a way that it wasn't
> really designed (aka localhost).  It's not intended to be derogatory
> - just that it's nothing we expected.
>

Hmm? I vaguely recall use of localhost for testing mentioned somewhere in
documentation. Regardless, I can see why it wouldn't have been expected, as
it is certainly not a potential threat to Adobe's profitability.

> Please note, FWIW, that in my pre-Adobe days, mine was one of two
> companies that independently developed the first such "localhost
> servers" that interacted with Reader to do form filling/saving.  Oh,
> and mine used iText - which is why I wrote the original form filling
> & FDF support for iText.
>

Thank you for your contributions. Personally, I've been working with iText
for a little over a year, and with Acrobat for about 10 years. iText, IMO,
has significantly enhanced the value of Acrobat for forms developers. I've
read that Adobe views iText as a competitive threat; but hope that view has
changed. Clearly, iText has significant value to Adobe, else it wouldn't be
distributed with any Adobe products.

>
> > Submittin

Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDFonlyworkswhileopenedin Browser

2007-04-28 Thread William Alexander Segraves
- Original Message -
From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Saturday, 28 April, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from
PDFonlyworkswhileopenedin Browser



> In addition, the
> "Reader Enablement" features available in Reader 7 and later also
> provide much greater capabilities for users than the "hack" of local
> submission ever could.


Leonard, it occurred to me that you might have been referring to a "Hack"
that employed a bogus submit action with Reader 6 to put a copy of the
submitted data into the client-side browser's cache. I remember reading
about this somewhere; but I took no interest in it, as it didn't seem to me
to be a capability that would survive. The complete description of it eludes
me now, after several Google searches.

Anyway, if this was the "hack" to which you referred, please accept my
apology for misinterpreting your response above in the previous reply.

Surely, we can agree that PDF files can include a "submit" action without
said action being considered a "hack". AFAIK, Acrobat and Adobe Reader
support "submit" actions in versions 7 and 8. Even though the data formats
continue to evolve, the ability to "submit" the form data is a fundamental
capability of a PDF form.

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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDFonlyworkswhileopenedin Browser

2007-04-28 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Saturday, 28 April, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from
PDFonlyworkswhileopenedin Browser


> I think that the EULA and Adobe's position on the EULA and use of
> Reader in such environments speak for themselves.

I agree. Unfortunately, IMO, Adobe has taken a posture that severely limits
the use of Reader for legitimate purposes using features that Adobe has
provided.

> In addition, the
> "Reader Enablement" features available in Reader 7 and later also
> provide much greater capabilities for users than the "hack" of local
> submission ever could.

While this may be true for many cases, it is not true for the development
activities in which I am engaged.

Example: Consider an lineage society application such as those found at
www.sar.org. The "Reader Enablement" is totally irrelevant to the solution
to the problem of shifting all genealogical data by a generation (or two) to
accomodate the preparation of an application for a son (or grandson) of the
original applicant. If you are aware of a way to do this with Reader (any
version), other than "submitting" to a server-side script that
programatically shifts the data and returns same as FDF/XFDF to the
client-side browser, I'd certainly like to know about it.

Leonard, I detect a hint of "hostility" among the Adobe culture re:
referring to a "submit" action to a "localhost" server as a "hack." WADR,
it's not a hack.

Submitting to a URL is, IMO, a fundamental capability that AcroForms MUST be
able to accomodate in order to work and play nicely on the WWW. Whether or
not the URL includes localhost, 127.0.0.1, or any private IP address is
irrelevant. In fact, texting with a localhost-based server is far more
efficient than testing with a remote server.

> These are the directions that we are taking
> the Acrobat/Reader family.
>

I understand. Now, IMO, if you could include in the directions an embedded
httpd server as part of the Reader extensions, you'd be going a long way
towards providing a product that works as it should with dynamic forms.

> If you wish to develop for other viewers - that's certainly your
> choice as a developer and business person.

Actually, it's not my choice at all. The market demands that AcroForms work,
in some way, with viewers other than Reader, e.g., the default viewer for
Mac OS X, and the various FOSS viewers that come with recent Linux
distrubutions.

Personally, I'd prefer by far that Adobe play nicely with customers by
allowing the full use of all of the capabilities they include in their
software.

'Nuff said. I think this thread has reached a good stopping point.

Best regards,
--
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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF onlyworkswhileopenedin Browser

2007-04-27 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2007 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF
onlyworkswhileopenedin Browser


> My opinion is that the number of users with a version of Reader < 7
> is so small that I wouldn't invest the engineering effort in a
> product targeted to only those users.
>
> Leonard
>

Leonard, I had hoped you'd give your response to the compliance issue I
raised (see below).

As a specific example, the Knoppix 4.02 live Linux distribution, has Acrobat
4 included in it, while later editions drop Acrobat/Adobe Reader altogether
(IMO, for reasons other than EULA compliance). This distribution, as well as
several earlier distributions, can be easily remastered to include a CGI
script to capture form data and merge it with a PDF form.

As many PDF developers are aware, there are applications for which Acrobat
and Reader can be employed that are technically feasible, but which are not
compliant with the EULA. One of these, e.g., using, on a local network or on
the same computer, a CGI script to capture the form data from a "submit"
action and merging the form data with a PDF form (AcroForm), thereby
allowing a filled PDF form to be saved locally, appears to be in violation
of the version 7 (Reader) EULA, while it is not in violation of the EULA for
previous versions.

My interest as a developer is ensuring that users are properly warned that
use of the above-cited capabilities on a local network or on the same
computer with a "localhost" httpd server is not permissible with Reader 7.

Certainly, a work-around for this problem, i.e., Reader 7 EULA, is to not
use Reader at all in a scenario designed to save the form data from a PDF
form or to save a filled PDF form. I have a working prototype that doesn't
use Reader, and further, doesn't require a PDF viewer at all, although a PDF
viewer is nice to have.

More on this later in another thread, as it is more appropriate for another
thread.

Best regards,
--
Bill Segraves



> On Apr 27, 2007, at 12:29 PM, William Alexander Segraves wrote:

> > So, it seems to me it would be compliant with the Reader EULA to use a
> > "localhost" server-side iText-based class for merging FDF/XFDF with
> > the
> > target PDF, presenting the merged PDF to the client browser that
> > "submits"
> > the form data, for any version of Reader from versions 3 through 6,
> > while
> > such use of Reader 7 (and up) would be in violation of the
> > corresponding
> > EULA.
> >
> > Your opinion?
>
>



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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF only workswhileopenedin Browser

2007-04-27 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Leonard Rosenthol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Friday, 27 April, 2007 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF only
workswhileopenedin Browser


> On Apr 26, 2007, at 1:32 PM, William Alexander Segraves wrote:
> > When was the language added to the Reader EULA prohibiting the use
> > of Reader
> > on the same computer/network with software that produces a filled
> > AcroForm?
> >
>
> Reader 7.

Leonard,

Thanks.

I had looked in the EULAs for all of the versions of Reader for which I have
the full distribution of Acrobat, i.e., versions 3 through 6, trying to find
the new language you had mentioned in a thread on PlanetPDF a while back.

So, it seems to me it would be compliant with the Reader EULA to use a
"localhost" server-side iText-based class for merging FDF/XFDF with the
target PDF, presenting the merged PDF to the client browser that "submits"
the form data, for any version of Reader from versions 3 through 6, while
such use of Reader 7 (and up) would be in violation of the corresponding
EULA.

Your opinion?

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Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF only works whileopenedin Browser

2007-04-26 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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Sent: Thursday, 26 April, 2007 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Formular Submit from PDF only works
whileopenedin Browser


> That limitation was removed in Reader 6.
>
> Leonard

When was the language added to the Reader EULA prohibiting the use of Reader
on the same computer/network with software that produces a filled AcroForm?

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Re: [iText-questions] Add text field (TextField) in existing PDF

2007-02-15 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, 15 February, 2007 8:51 AM
Subject: [iText-questions] Add text field (TextField) in existing PDF


> How can i add a text field (at absolute position) to existing PDF file ???
>
> Thanks 4 help

Look for HelloWorldAddButton among the extra examples for Chapter 15.

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Re: [iText-questions] Changing the size (height & width) of anacrofield dynamically

2007-01-25 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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Sent: Thursday, 25 January, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Changing the size (height & width) of
anacrofield dynamically


> I've been able to set the multiline property of a acroform field by using
the method below:
>
>   acroForm.setFieldProperty("field.name", "fflags",
PdfFormField.FF_MULTILINE, null);
>
>   I am still looking at how to change the height and width of a textfield
and that of a multiline field as well.
>
>   Any Ideas ?

Yes, but IMO your question is not a question about iText.

You can do this with your favorite text editor, but the PDF will then be
broken. One way around this problem is to use gVim, with the Pdftk plugin
(See www.accesspdf.com for details). While examining the PDF with gVim, you
may see ways to programmatically search and replace coordinates of form
fields.

Good luck.

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Re: [iText-questions] New Version - Problems

2007-01-23 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Krishna Chaitanya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Tuesday, 23 January, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] New Version - Problems


> Hi ..Can the owner of this group remove me from this mailing list.

You can change your mail options yourself. Have you tried to do it?

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Re: [iText-questions] Adding form fields with PdfStamper? (take 2)

2007-01-10 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Paul Jungwirth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, 10 January, 2007 2:20 PM
Subject: [iText-questions] Adding form fields with PdfStamper? (take 2)


> Hello,
>
> I asked this question seven days ago and didn't get a reply, so here goes
again:
>

You asked a question which had already been answered.

> I want to use PdfStamper to read a PDF document and add a couple
> buttons to the first page. But it appears that you can only create new
> form fields with a PdfWriter. Is there any way to add buttons to an
> existing PDF?

Google is your friend. Search for "HelloWorldAddButton".

Everything you need to know to answer the question for yourself is in the
book _iText in Action_, the Examples, the Author's support site for the
book, or the Tutorial.

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Re: [iText-questions] Extract small part of one page to its own file

2007-01-09 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "William Alexander Segraves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Post all your questions about iText here"

Sent: Tuesday, 09 January, 2007 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [iText-questions] Extract small part of one page to its own
file


> - Original Message -
> From: "Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, 09 January, 2007 2:59 PM
> Subject: [iText-questions] Extract small part of one page to its own file
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have several PDF files that are formatted almost identically.  They
> contain 2
> > pages each and are meant to be quad-fold brochures.  I'd like to be able
> to
> > extract the left-most quarter of the second page and put it into its own
> > separate PDF file.
> >
> > I'm confident I can put the second page into its own PDF, but I only
want
> that
> > first quarter of the page.  Any ideas?
>
> Yes. See the HelloWorldWriter example in Chapter 2 of _iText in Action_.
> This example has all of the bits and pieces you need to solve your
problem.
>

See also, TemplateClip example in Chapter 11.

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Re: [iText-questions] Extract small part of one page to its own file

2007-01-09 Thread William Alexander Segraves
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From: "Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 09 January, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: [iText-questions] Extract small part of one page to its own file


> Hello,
>
> I have several PDF files that are formatted almost identically.  They
contain 2
> pages each and are meant to be quad-fold brochures.  I'd like to be able
to
> extract the left-most quarter of the second page and put it into its own
> separate PDF file.
>
> I'm confident I can put the second page into its own PDF, but I only want
that
> first quarter of the page.  Any ideas?

Yes. See the HelloWorldWriter example in Chapter 2 of _iText in Action_.
This example has all of the bits and pieces you need to solve your problem.

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[iText-questions] iText: How to add form field/submit button to existing PDF form (Acroform)

2006-11-17 Thread William Alexander Segraves
How do I add a form field and a submit button to an existing PDF form
(Acroform)?

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