Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-31 Thread Grant Ingersoll





On Oct 30, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't want to come across as negative here... i'm not trying to  
single anyone out,
just a bit confused as to why my issue was singled out when theres  
already been both new features and new deprecations added to 3.0,
and the issue in question doesnt even have any deprecations. then  
again i don't really care if its in 3.0 or 3.1, but its just wierd.




It was just because your issue caught my eye because I tend to keep a  
closer eye on the language stuff because it's an area of interest.  
Nothing personal.




a search on 'deprecated' in contrib is pretty enlightening.

here's an example from spatial: DistanceApproximation entire class  
deprecated!


 * @deprecated This has been replaced with more accurate
 * math in {...@link LLRect}.

this deprecation traces back to LUCENE-1781, which is marked as Fix  
Version 2.9
makes me want to delete it, except if you check contrib/CHANGES, you  
see it wasn't actually applied until 3.0

so it shouldnt be deleted yet.

again, not trying to be negative, +1 to both the contributor(s) and  
committers that fixed this bug in spatial, as I sure don't  
understand it.


On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com  
wrote:

What deprecations were already added?

Robert Muir wrote:
 well, not to complain, but I will mention on this topic.

 If something is marked deprecated, its 10x easier if in the javadocs
 there is some version information applied.

 In the wild west that is contrib, its currently a bit difficult  
for me

 to clear out the deprecations from 2.9, because there are new
 deprecations added in 3.0.
 it takes svn annotate + jira + CHANGES to figure out exactly what
 should be cleared out (and sometimes these all seem to disagree, Fix
 Version != Changes, etc etc)

 This is why i only did part of LUCENE-2022

 On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com
 mailto:markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have no problem with new features either - but I would vote  
that

 if it
 requires new deprecations, it should wait.

 I think its nice to have a clean release first. And I also  
don't think
 any of this features should hold up the 3.0 release. Lets get  
it out -

 then focus on new features.

 Grant Ingersoll wrote:
  How do you handle deprecations of old stuff for the new  
contribution
  (assuming it needs it)?  Seems weird to have a major release  
that
  immediately has deprecations.  At the same time, it seems  
weird to

  have a major release that doesn't contain new features.  If
 anything,
  it is our best opportunity to put in new stuff
 
  Traditionally, the only difference between .9 and .0 has been
 removal
  of deprecations.  This time around we are saying also JDK 1.5.
 
  Not saying we can't do it, just wondering.
 
  On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:31 PM, DM Smith wrote:
 
  I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any
 release.
 
  On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
  thanks Michael.
 
  does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
  fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0  
contrib

  already (see contrib/CHANGES),
  but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be
 adding this
  feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1
 
  On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Michael McCandless
  luc...@mikemccandless.com  
mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com

 mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com
 mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:
 
  I think we should allow new features into contrib for  
3.0.

 
  I don't even like holding new features from core for  
3.0.

 
  In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is  
locked

 down
  Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead  
at

 all times.
 
  Mike
 
  On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Robert Muir
 rcm...@gmail.com mailto:rcm...@gmail.com
  mailto:rcm...@gmail.com mailto:rcm...@gmail.com  
wrote:

   Hi,
  
   What is the consensus on new features for contrib  
for Lucene

  3.0? I know
   that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and  
deprecation

  removal.
  
   I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right  
version,

  but I figured
   its really not just about that specific issue, I would
 like to
  know the
   plans in general.
  
   Thanks,
   Robert
  
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
thanks Michael.

does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib already
(see contrib/CHANGES),
but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be adding this feature
to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Michael McCandless 
luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:

 I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.

 I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.

 In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked down
 Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at all times.

 Mike

 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene 3.0? I know
  that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation removal.
 
  I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version, but I
 figured
  its really not just about that specific issue, I would like to know the
  plans in general.
 
  Thanks,
  Robert
 
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread DM Smith

I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any release.

On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote:

thanks Michael.

does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib 
already (see contrib/CHANGES),
but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be adding this 
feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1


On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Michael McCandless 
luc...@mikemccandless.com mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:


I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.

I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.

In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked down
Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at all times.

Mike

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com
mailto:rcm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene
3.0? I know
 that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation removal.

 I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version, but
I figured
 its really not just about that specific issue, I would like to
know the
 plans in general.

 Thanks,
 Robert

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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Miller
I have no problem with new features either - but I would vote that if it
requires new deprecations, it should wait.

I think its nice to have a clean release first. And I also don't think
any of this features should hold up the 3.0 release. Lets get it out -
then focus on new features.

Grant Ingersoll wrote:
 How do you handle deprecations of old stuff for the new contribution
 (assuming it needs it)?  Seems weird to have a major release that
 immediately has deprecations.  At the same time, it seems weird to
 have a major release that doesn't contain new features.  If anything,
 it is our best opportunity to put in new stuff

 Traditionally, the only difference between .9 and .0 has been removal
 of deprecations.  This time around we are saying also JDK 1.5.

 Not saying we can't do it, just wondering.

 On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:31 PM, DM Smith wrote:

 I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any release.

 On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
 thanks Michael.

 does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
 fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib
 already (see contrib/CHANGES),
 but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be adding this
 feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1

 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Michael McCandless
 luc...@mikemccandless.com mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:

 I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.

 I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.

 In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked down
 Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at all times.

 Mike

 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com
 mailto:rcm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene
 3.0? I know
  that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation
 removal.
 
  I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version,
 but I figured
  its really not just about that specific issue, I would like to
 know the
  plans in general.
 
  Thanks,
  Robert
 
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
Grant, in this case the new contribution does not require any deprecation,
it is another implementation for regex and wildcard query that works a bit
differently than the others.

Not to stray off-topic, but your comment does apply to
RussianLowerCaseFilter, which is currently marked deprecated in 3.0.
Until the custom-encoding junk (deprecated in 2.9) was removed, I couldn't
easily tell that it was simply a duplicate of LowerCaseFilter...
for now its marked deprecated in 3.0 to be removed in 4.0

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote:

 How do you handle deprecations of old stuff for the new contribution
 (assuming it needs it)?  Seems weird to have a major release that
 immediately has deprecations.  At the same time, it seems weird to have a
 major release that doesn't contain new features.  If anything, it is our
 best opportunity to put in new stuff

 Traditionally, the only difference between .9 and .0 has been removal of
 deprecations.  This time around we are saying also JDK 1.5.

 Not saying we can't do it, just wondering.

 On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:31 PM, DM Smith wrote:

  I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any release.

 On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote:

 thanks Michael.

 does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
 fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib already
 (see contrib/CHANGES),
 but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be adding this
 feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1

 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Michael McCandless 
 luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:

 I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.

 I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.

 In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked down
 Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at all times.

 Mike

 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene 3.0? I know
  that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation removal.
 
  I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version, but I
 figured
  its really not just about that specific issue, I would like to know the
  plans in general.
 
  Thanks,
  Robert
 
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
by the way, this russian example is only one I'm familiar with, its hardly
the only new deprecation introduced in 3.0

theres been other new features added to contrib in 3.0, and theres been
other new deprecations added to contrib in 3.0

I saw this when I started trying to clear out the contrib deprecations
earlier today, some of them were just added.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Grant, in this case the new contribution does not require any deprecation,
 it is another implementation for regex and wildcard query that works a bit
 differently than the others.

 Not to stray off-topic, but your comment does apply to
 RussianLowerCaseFilter, which is currently marked deprecated in 3.0.
 Until the custom-encoding junk (deprecated in 2.9) was removed, I couldn't
 easily tell that it was simply a duplicate of LowerCaseFilter...
 for now its marked deprecated in 3.0 to be removed in 4.0


 On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Grant Ingersoll gsing...@apache.orgwrote:

 How do you handle deprecations of old stuff for the new contribution
 (assuming it needs it)?  Seems weird to have a major release that
 immediately has deprecations.  At the same time, it seems weird to have a
 major release that doesn't contain new features.  If anything, it is our
 best opportunity to put in new stuff

 Traditionally, the only difference between .9 and .0 has been removal of
 deprecations.  This time around we are saying also JDK 1.5.

 Not saying we can't do it, just wondering.

 On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:31 PM, DM Smith wrote:

  I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any release.

 On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote:

 thanks Michael.

 does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
 fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib already
 (see contrib/CHANGES),
 but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be adding this
 feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1

 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Michael McCandless 
 luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:

 I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.

 I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.

 In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked down
 Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at all times.

 Mike

 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene 3.0? I
 know
  that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation removal.
 
  I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version, but I
 figured
  its really not just about that specific issue, I would like to know the
  plans in general.
 
  Thanks,
  Robert
 
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
well, not to complain, but I will mention on this topic.

If something is marked deprecated, its 10x easier if in the javadocs there
is some version information applied.

In the wild west that is contrib, its currently a bit difficult for me to
clear out the deprecations from 2.9, because there are new deprecations
added in 3.0.
it takes svn annotate + jira + CHANGES to figure out exactly what should be
cleared out (and sometimes these all seem to disagree, Fix Version !=
Changes, etc etc)

This is why i only did part of LUCENE-2022

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have no problem with new features either - but I would vote that if it
 requires new deprecations, it should wait.

 I think its nice to have a clean release first. And I also don't think
 any of this features should hold up the 3.0 release. Lets get it out -
 then focus on new features.

 Grant Ingersoll wrote:
  How do you handle deprecations of old stuff for the new contribution
  (assuming it needs it)?  Seems weird to have a major release that
  immediately has deprecations.  At the same time, it seems weird to
  have a major release that doesn't contain new features.  If anything,
  it is our best opportunity to put in new stuff
 
  Traditionally, the only difference between .9 and .0 has been removal
  of deprecations.  This time around we are saying also JDK 1.5.
 
  Not saying we can't do it, just wondering.
 
  On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:31 PM, DM Smith wrote:
 
  I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any release.
 
  On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
  thanks Michael.
 
  does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
  fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib
  already (see contrib/CHANGES),
  but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be adding this
  feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1
 
  On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Michael McCandless
  luc...@mikemccandless.com mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:
 
  I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.
 
  I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.
 
  In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked down
  Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at all
 times.
 
  Mike
 
  On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Robert Muir rcm...@gmail.com
  mailto:rcm...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi,
  
   What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene
  3.0? I know
   that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation
  removal.
  
   I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version,
  but I figured
   its really not just about that specific issue, I would like to
  know the
   plans in general.
  
   Thanks,
   Robert
  
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Miller
What deprecations were already added?

Robert Muir wrote:
 well, not to complain, but I will mention on this topic.

 If something is marked deprecated, its 10x easier if in the javadocs
 there is some version information applied.

 In the wild west that is contrib, its currently a bit difficult for me
 to clear out the deprecations from 2.9, because there are new
 deprecations added in 3.0.
 it takes svn annotate + jira + CHANGES to figure out exactly what
 should be cleared out (and sometimes these all seem to disagree, Fix
 Version != Changes, etc etc)

 This is why i only did part of LUCENE-2022

 On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com
 mailto:markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have no problem with new features either - but I would vote that
 if it
 requires new deprecations, it should wait.

 I think its nice to have a clean release first. And I also don't think
 any of this features should hold up the 3.0 release. Lets get it out -
 then focus on new features.

 Grant Ingersoll wrote:
  How do you handle deprecations of old stuff for the new contribution
  (assuming it needs it)?  Seems weird to have a major release that
  immediately has deprecations.  At the same time, it seems weird to
  have a major release that doesn't contain new features.  If
 anything,
  it is our best opportunity to put in new stuff
 
  Traditionally, the only difference between .9 and .0 has been
 removal
  of deprecations.  This time around we are saying also JDK 1.5.
 
  Not saying we can't do it, just wondering.
 
  On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:31 PM, DM Smith wrote:
 
  I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any
 release.
 
  On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
  thanks Michael.
 
  does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
  fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib
  already (see contrib/CHANGES),
  but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be
 adding this
  feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1
 
  On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Michael McCandless
  luc...@mikemccandless.com mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com
 mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com
 mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com wrote:
 
  I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.
 
  I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.
 
  In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked
 down
  Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at
 all times.
 
  Mike
 
  On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Robert Muir
 rcm...@gmail.com mailto:rcm...@gmail.com
  mailto:rcm...@gmail.com mailto:rcm...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi,
  
   What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene
  3.0? I know
   that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation
  removal.
  
   I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version,
  but I figured
   its really not just about that specific issue, I would
 like to
  know the
   plans in general.
  
   Thanks,
   Robert
  
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-30 Thread Robert Muir
I don't want to come across as negative here... i'm not trying to single
anyone out,
just a bit confused as to why my issue was singled out when theres already
been both new features and new deprecations added to 3.0,
and the issue in question doesnt even have any deprecations. then again i
don't really care if its in 3.0 or 3.1, but its just wierd.

a search on 'deprecated' in contrib is pretty enlightening.

here's an example from spatial: DistanceApproximation entire class
deprecated!

 * @deprecated This has been replaced with more accurate
 * math in {...@link LLRect}.

this deprecation traces back to LUCENE-1781, which is marked as Fix Version
2.9
makes me want to delete it, except if you check contrib/CHANGES, you see it
wasn't actually applied until 3.0
so it shouldnt be deleted yet.

again, not trying to be negative, +1 to both the contributor(s) and
committers that fixed this bug in spatial, as I sure don't understand it.

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:

 What deprecations were already added?

 Robert Muir wrote:
  well, not to complain, but I will mention on this topic.
 
  If something is marked deprecated, its 10x easier if in the javadocs
  there is some version information applied.
 
  In the wild west that is contrib, its currently a bit difficult for me
  to clear out the deprecations from 2.9, because there are new
  deprecations added in 3.0.
  it takes svn annotate + jira + CHANGES to figure out exactly what
  should be cleared out (and sometimes these all seem to disagree, Fix
  Version != Changes, etc etc)
 
  This is why i only did part of LUCENE-2022
 
  On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Mark Miller markrmil...@gmail.com
  mailto:markrmil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I have no problem with new features either - but I would vote that
  if it
  requires new deprecations, it should wait.
 
  I think its nice to have a clean release first. And I also don't
 think
  any of this features should hold up the 3.0 release. Lets get it out
 -
  then focus on new features.
 
  Grant Ingersoll wrote:
   How do you handle deprecations of old stuff for the new
 contribution
   (assuming it needs it)?  Seems weird to have a major release that
   immediately has deprecations.  At the same time, it seems weird to
   have a major release that doesn't contain new features.  If
  anything,
   it is our best opportunity to put in new stuff
  
   Traditionally, the only difference between .9 and .0 has been
  removal
   of deprecations.  This time around we are saying also JDK 1.5.
  
   Not saying we can't do it, just wondering.
  
   On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:31 PM, DM Smith wrote:
  
   I don't see any reason to freeze new contributions from any
  release.
  
   On 10/30/2009 03:19 PM, Robert Muir wrote:
   thanks Michael.
  
   does anyone else have any opinion on this issue?
   fyi we already have several new features committed to 3.0 contrib
   already (see contrib/CHANGES),
   but I don't too much care either way, if I should not be
  adding this
   feature to 3.0, I'd like to set the version in jira to 3.1
  
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   I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.
  
   I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.
  
   In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked
  down
   Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at
  all times.
  
   Mike
  
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 Lucene
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that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation
   removal.
   
I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right
 version,
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

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 holding new features from core for
     3.0.
          
               In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is
     locked
          down
               Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing
     ahead at
          all times.
          
               Mike
          
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                What is the consensus on new features for contrib
     for Lucene
               3.0? I know
                that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and
     deprecation
               removal.
               
                I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the
     right version,
               but I figured
                its really not just about that specific issue, I would
          like to
               know the
                plans in general.
               
                Thanks,
                Robert
               
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

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I think we should allow new features into contrib
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I don't even like holding new features from core for
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In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is
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Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing
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Mike
   
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3.0? I know
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  deprecation
removal.

 I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the
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but I figured
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 would
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know the
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Re: contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-23 Thread Michael McCandless
I think we should allow new features into contrib for 3.0.

I don't even like holding new features from core for 3.0.

In general I don't think it's healthy when trunk is locked down
Trunk should be like a locomotive that's plowing ahead at all times.

Mike

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contrib and lucene 3.0

2009-10-22 Thread Robert Muir
Hi,

What is the consensus on new features for contrib for Lucene 3.0? I know
that for core, its mostly a java 5 upgrade and deprecation removal.

I want to make sure LUCENE-1606 is set to the right version, but I figured
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