Re: [The Java Posse] Re: 64bit JDK on Windoze?

2011-02-11 Thread Marcelo Fukushima
ive been running a big-ish webapp (both in development and production) on a
64bit JVM for about a month and have not noticed such dramatic performance
drop. But them again, im not running windows nor using compressedOOPs -
maybe its one of those?

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Sean Comerford
wrote:

> It's a web server processing the exact same # of requests as before.
>
> It was running into GC pause / OOM issues before when we were limited to a
> 1.2 GB heap by the 32 bit JDK. And yes, the real issue is to cache (or more
> exactly clear caches) properly but that's harder to solve :-)
>
> So we switched to 64 bit in order to set a 3 GB heap. This alleviated the
> memory contention and has made the service more stable / run longer w/o
> needing restart
>
> We definitely expected some degree of increased CPU with the 64 bit stuff
> but what we're seeing is huge - more than 2X increase in CPU.
>
> Maybe that's just par for the course given what we've done but I can't help
> feel like I'm missing something tuning wise.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Eric  wrote:
>
>> I'm running the 64 bit JDK on my laptop but I've only begun to compile
>> programs on it so I don't know much about performance differences.  I
>> thought 64 bit was supposed to be better at using up memory to get
>> more performance.
>> Is more CPU usage a good thing?  Is there a noticeable performance
>> increase?
>>
>> On Feb 10, 10:09 pm, Sean Comerford 
>> wrote:
>> > Any of you posse people have much experience running the 64 bit 1.6
>> Oracle
>> > JVM on Windows?
>> >
>> > We recently cut some services over to it, using the CompressedOOPS.
>> >
>> > Accomplishes the goal of giving us 4 GB heaps but the extra cost in CPU
>> > usage seems excessively high. We expected some penalty in this respect
>> but
>> > same app now seems to be using more than double the CPU.
>> >
>> > Guess I'm just wondering if we're missing some big dial that only
>> applies to
>> > 64 bit.
>>
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Re: [The Java Posse] Re: 64bit JDK on Windoze?

2011-02-11 Thread Sean Comerford
It's a web server processing the exact same # of requests as before.

It was running into GC pause / OOM issues before when we were limited to a
1.2 GB heap by the 32 bit JDK. And yes, the real issue is to cache (or more
exactly clear caches) properly but that's harder to solve :-)

So we switched to 64 bit in order to set a 3 GB heap. This alleviated the
memory contention and has made the service more stable / run longer w/o
needing restart

We definitely expected some degree of increased CPU with the 64 bit stuff
but what we're seeing is huge - more than 2X increase in CPU.

Maybe that's just par for the course given what we've done but I can't help
feel like I'm missing something tuning wise.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Eric  wrote:

> I'm running the 64 bit JDK on my laptop but I've only begun to compile
> programs on it so I don't know much about performance differences.  I
> thought 64 bit was supposed to be better at using up memory to get
> more performance.
> Is more CPU usage a good thing?  Is there a noticeable performance
> increase?
>
> On Feb 10, 10:09 pm, Sean Comerford 
> wrote:
> > Any of you posse people have much experience running the 64 bit 1.6
> Oracle
> > JVM on Windows?
> >
> > We recently cut some services over to it, using the CompressedOOPS.
> >
> > Accomplishes the goal of giving us 4 GB heaps but the extra cost in CPU
> > usage seems excessively high. We expected some penalty in this respect
> but
> > same app now seems to be using more than double the CPU.
> >
> > Guess I'm just wondering if we're missing some big dial that only applies
> to
> > 64 bit.
>
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[The Java Posse] Re: 64bit JDK on Windoze?

2011-02-11 Thread Eric
I'm running the 64 bit JDK on my laptop but I've only begun to compile
programs on it so I don't know much about performance differences.  I
thought 64 bit was supposed to be better at using up memory to get
more performance.
Is more CPU usage a good thing?  Is there a noticeable performance
increase?

On Feb 10, 10:09 pm, Sean Comerford 
wrote:
> Any of you posse people have much experience running the 64 bit 1.6 Oracle
> JVM on Windows?
>
> We recently cut some services over to it, using the CompressedOOPS.
>
> Accomplishes the goal of giving us 4 GB heaps but the extra cost in CPU
> usage seems excessively high. We expected some penalty in this respect but
> same app now seems to be using more than double the CPU.
>
> Guess I'm just wondering if we're missing some big dial that only applies to
> 64 bit.

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