Re: [JAWS-Users] select and copy internet option

[Brian Lee]

Hello Andrew,

All the information should be included whether you copy text using "select
and copy from virtual cursor" or "select and copy full content using on
screen highlight."  When JAWS presents information in a virtual window,
pieces of information that might actually appear next to each other on the
screen can be presented as being on separate lines.  This makes it easier to
hear and interpret in many cases.  Let's say that you have a table of
information that consists of five columns and twenty-five rows.  In the
virtual buffer, each cell of information might be shown on a separate line.
With five columns across and twenty-five rows, this would mean that you have
one hundred and twenty-five lines of information.  The same table actually
appears on the screen with five columns across and twenty-five rows
vertically, meaning that only twenty-five lines are used when the
information is presented as it appears on the screen.  Of course, it isn't
always exact because you might have cells that wrap, empty cells and so on
that will not make the total of lines used the exact result of number of
columns times number of rows.  However, in the example, if each cell of
information can fit on a single line then with five columns and twenty-five
rows you would end up with one hundred and twenty-five lines of information.
When you copy the information from virtual cursor, it is copied as it is
presented, which in the example would be as one hundred and twenty-five
lines of information.  When you copy the information as shown on screen, it
is copied as twenty-five lines.  When you paste the copied information from
the clipboard into a document, Windows will paste it as it was copied.  

Take care.   

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Head
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 12:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] select and copy internet option

Hi all, I have an online document I wish to copy to Microsoft word
to have so I've got it even when my internet temporarily stops working. I
firstly copied it into a blank document using the jaws option copy full text
from virtual cursor. The document turned out to be 88 pages. I then decided
to try copying it using on screen highlight, and the document turned out to
be 34 pages, although formatting wasn't there. Just wondering if anyone can
please tell me why the document was shorter when the text is copied using on
screen highlight? Is all the info still there? 
Kind regards,
>From Andrew

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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Bharat
Sent: Monday, 29 August 2011 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessibility with Google talk

although it may sound I am trying to under-estimate you but trust me, that's
not the case at all. when you extracted the scripts, did you copy the
scripts themselves or the extracted folder? because, they did work for me
for sometime till I upgraded to the latest builds of jaws 12. now the
scripts no more work with jaws in the chat window at all, while they still
work in the messenger window, telling you who all are online & what are
their status messages.
I was hoping I would be able to find some way to recreate the jss file
for the scripts, so as to be able to modify & add the necessary things in
them but unfortunately, jaws has no documentation around retrieving the lost
jss files. writing across to some honchos for the same at fs also yielded no
positive results for the same.
I am sorry, I have no experience with using AIM. have never used it.

--
From: "harshil ved" 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:03 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessability with google talk

> Hi Bharat,
> I did download the scriptsw and pasted it on the enu folder but still 
> it does not help. Can you help me a bit more with the same!
>
> And at the same time I did download the AIM set up file but I am 
> unable to download it. Can you throw some light on how do I go about 
> it!
>
> Thanks,
> Harshil.
>
> On 8/27/11, Bharat  wrote:
>> please go to the following page:
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/aruni100/
>>
>> & download the scripts from there, & see if those scripts work for you.
>> though they don't seem to work with JAWS12.
>>
>> --
>> From: "harshil ved" 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 9:06 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessability with google talk
>>
>>> Hello, Is Google talk accessable with jaws? If yes are there any 
>>> scripts for it!
>>> If any one uses it please reply. Help would be greatly appreciated.
>>> I am using Jaws 11
>>> Harshil
>>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM

[kimsan]

Christian...
Have you looked at the virbosity settings to see if they meet your needs.
Most of them are enabled by default but maybe in your case the one that you
are looking for might be disabled. When in the message window do insert v
and take a look around...
As far as the braille display thing from your other message, I do not use a
braille display, sorry...
kimsans...@aol.com

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Cristian
CÉSPEDES O.
Sent: 29 August, 2011 1:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM

Hello Kimsan,

Really? And could you explain me who to make Jaws read automatically the
messages when they arrive and we were in the chatting window?
Because when I close the window and I receive a message it is ok, Jaws reads
me the messages, but when I'm in the chatting window, I must being
contantely checking in the history if a new message arrived...
:(


Cristian

2011/8/29, kimsan :
> Wlm 2011 works well for me, even the chatting part...
>
>
> kimsans...@aol.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of raymond 
> lombardi
> Sent: 26 August, 2011 5:32 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM
>
>
>
>
> You can make the groups yes, but as far as the chatting goes I really 
> don't know.
>
>
>
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[JAWS-Users] Display of Email with Windows Live Mail.

[Mandy]

Yes David I think that quick view is open although it doesn’t show up 
immediately but at the top I see unread feeds, unread watched and then all 
unread email and then all inboxes and all drafts etc.
I think somewhere I have hide read messages but if I space on this it just 
takes me back to the emails.

Mandy.   
Rafanatic
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[JAWS-Users] Purchasing Voices for JAWS

[Lisa belville]

Hi.

I'm using JAWS 10 and Windows XP Sp 3.

I'm looking at additional voices from the nextup site and I want to be sure
they work before I purchase them.

I'm particularly interested in Tracy from Acapela and a couple of the
character voices from Cepstral.

I've installed the Real Speak voices with JAWS, but these were on the JAWS 
CD and not something I've downloaded and purchased separately.


the exact URL is http://www.nextup.com/TextAloud/SpeechEngine/voices.html

TIA

Lisa



Live, Laugh, Love. If that doesn't work- Raise, Aim and Fire!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Showing the BCC field with outlook express

[Mike & Barbara In Arcadia]

Hi Sean,

Try the following;

1. Open a new message.

2. Press Alt + V for the view menu.

3. Press enter on All Headers or just press the letter " A ".

For using the BCC field temporarily press Alt + B in an open message.  The 
Alt + B keystroke will work as a toggle when using it this way.  Hope this 
helps.
Take care.

Mike,

- Original Message - 
  From: Sean Paul
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:24 AM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Showing the BCC field with outlook express


  Heyya gang. Trying to get this here old machine up & running againe. 
Trying to figure out how to show the BCC field using outlook express. Made 
sure that all headers was checked in the view menu. Still is not showing @ 
this point. Using Jaws9 Windows XP SP3. Any other ideas or help would be 
greatly appreciated.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

[Don Marang]

The VMware Player is free and there is a more advanced program BMware 
Workstation wich has to be purchased. The last time I checked it was 
arount $190. It adds features like taking snapshots and movies to make 
it easier to restore previous states of the guest Operating System. 
Since the guest Operating System is contained in files, making a copy of 
the entire directory of the Virtual Machine provides an easy backup, 
acting much like a snapshot.


There are JAWS scripts that were written by Chris Hallsworth and myself. 
We started them for Player 2.5, which had many accessibility issues. 
Player 3.x really does not require any scripts. The Player now also 
allows you to create Virtual Machines just like Workstation. In my view, 
the Player free product meets most users needs. Advanced users might 
want to consider the added features of Workstation.


The scripts for Player and Workstation are bundled together and located at:

http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/VMware.html

Verizon no longer allows ftp to their free web space, so these pages 
will be moved soon to DonaldMarang.org.


Chris manages a mailing list for blind users of Virtual Machines. If 
interested, you can subscribe at:

b-v-m-subscr...@yahoogroups.com


*Don Marang*
Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org 

There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any 
real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I 
am working on things that matter.

-- Dean Kamen

On 8/29/2011 5:13 PM, Trouble wrote:

It is paid software, and there are also scripts for it.

At 04:30 PM 8/29/2011, you wrote:

Hello,
Is VMware free or does it cost? From the website it looks like it costs.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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On 8/29/2011 2:59 PM, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi,
VMWare player is great!

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Icewolf
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

Hello all,
What virtual software works well with JAWS 12 latest version. I am 
taking
an architecture and operating systems class at school and I will 
need to

install linux on a virtual machine for the class.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

[Trouble]

It is paid software, and there are also scripts for it.

At 04:30 PM 8/29/2011, you wrote:

Hello,
Is VMware free or does it cost?  From the website it looks like it costs.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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of all days.



On 8/29/2011 2:59 PM, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi,
VMWare player is great!

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Icewolf
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

Hello all,
What virtual software works well with JAWS 12 latest version.  I am taking
an architecture and operating systems class at school and I will need to
install linux on a virtual machine for the class.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails. y keep all theinformation and listen to the mp3's but I am stiol in theprocess of redoeri w

[inthane]

I'm afraid I have nothing on this item, hopefully someone else can answer it 
for us both!


elf
. Moderator, Blind Access Help.
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"own the might and majesty of an alacorn"
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mandy" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails. y keep all 
theinformation and listen to the mp3's but I am stiol in theprocess of 
redoeri w




Thanks
for all of this - I now have my emails saying who they are from etc but 
now although both email accounts are shown, the only way to see all of my 
messages is to have all inboxes showing because otherwise I don't think 
read messages show up.
I will definitely listen to the MP3's but currently trying to sort out my 
laptop after a total hard-drive crash.

So this bit more info would be highly appreciated

:  how do I get the two folders to show up one beneath the other with all 
of the folders within each, inbox, sent items etc.
I had the problem like the example you showed  where it said columns 
unavailable.

Mandy.
Rafanatic
-Original Message- 
From: inthane

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails.

ok the big trouble is I don't know and neither do you, the "translation"
from menu's to ribbons, but I have some tutorials on windows live mail, so
hopefully one of them will give you the information you need.

first is:
for an audio tutorial on using windows live mail!
go too:
www.accessibleworld.org
and look for the presentation by someone named Mr.  Asner.
Its an MP3 file that you can download and listen too.


here is another good one:
http://email.about.com/od/windowsmailtips/Windows_Mail_Tips_Tricks_and_Secrets.htm


ok now this sounds very similar to your troubles and the fix for them:

ok, this is a corrected and headers removed version of a series of Emails
concerning the "HOW it reads" and the altering of this in windows live 
mail,

I've put them back in the order they came in instead of the last is first
chronology they wind up in to make reading easier for folks.

starting in correct order from first request to end of problem fix, first
post:

 hello folks

 in windows vista and XP I was able to sort how emails were viewed and 
read
by jaws. my emails are now being read by. the name of the sender first 
then
the date then the time then the subject and then which folder it is in. 
can
I sort this so the subject is being read first then the sender and then 
the
date and time if I want it. or maybe stop the date and time and folder 
which

it is being read from not to be announced. I cant find any options in the
view menu to do this. many thanks in advance.

 regards
 Vincent

next:


Hi Vincent,

you can open the Columns dialog from the view menu - I think this allows
you to do what you want to do,

David.

next:
hello David

it is saying all the time that columns are unavailable. I thought that was
were I done it in vista and XP. but it says unavailable. can you suggest 
how

to activate this.

regards
Vincent


Next:
this is one thing to try:
1. Open the layout dialog on the view menu.
2. Move to the Message list button, and press it using spacebar.
3. When you do this, the button expands and shows some text and controls
which Jaws (and probably other screen readers don't automatically read.
What's there is the text Show messages using: followed by a group of three
radio buttons: Choose view automatically;
two-line view; and one-line view. By default it seems to be set to choose
view automatically, and on my machine if it's set to that or the one-line
view, then I can access the columns dialog. However if it's set to two 
line

view, the the columns dialog is unavailable, and the reading order of
subject, date etc is as you've previously described. The easiest was to 
set

an option is to use it's access key:
Choose view automatically (alt+u), two-line view (alt+t), one-line view
(alt+o). Once you've used an access key jaws reads it, and you can the use
up and down arrows to read the other options if you want to. (The other 
way

of accessing the options if to route jaws to cursor, read a word at a time
to get to any word in the options, and then route pc to jaws cursor).

best wishes,
David.

ok, hope these help you with that trouble!
you may be able to find a list for the ribbon commands on the microsoft
site, I have one, but its for word 2010 and its ribbon, not WLM.

the last thing is there is a program that returns the ribbons to menu like
arrangements if you would want to install it, but I'd really try to get 
used

to the ribbons since more and more things are starting to use them!

take care,
inthaneelf


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Showing the BCC field with outlook express

[Steve]

Hey Sean,

Press alt-b.  It is a toggle and should turn BCC back on when you are in a 
message compose window.


Smoke in Peace, and 73's,

Steve K8SP

- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Paul" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:24 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Showing the BCC field with outlook express


Heyya gang. Trying to get this here old machine up & running againe. 
Trying to figure out how to show the BCC field using outlook express. Made 
sure that all headers was checked in the view menu. Still is not showing @ 
this point. Using Jaws9 Windows XP SP3. Any other ideas or help would be 
greatly appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

[Icewolf]

Hello,
Is VMware free or does it cost?  From the website it looks like it costs.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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days.


On 8/29/2011 2:59 PM, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi,
VMWare player is great!

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Icewolf
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

Hello all,
What virtual software works well with JAWS 12 latest version.  I am taking
an architecture and operating systems class at school and I will need to
install linux on a virtual machine for the class.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.

[Flor Lynch]

Alt p for PAPA, etc.
- Original Message - 
From: "jim rawls" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.


Anne, when I  hit alt T in the message window in outlook 2007 I get a 
windows boink sound and no choices to do anything. Jim


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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:57 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.


It's under alt-p when you're in the message window.
At 12:25 PM 8/29/2011, you wrote:
I am running windows 7, home premium, jaws 12, latest fix, on a 64 
bit machine, and I have forgotten how to set the BCC field in outlook 
2007. Help with this please. thanks. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Showing the BCC field with outlook express

[Flor Lynch]

Enter a blank message. There, either press alt-b>, or check all headers 
by pressing enter on it or (alt-v, a) in the View Menu.


- Original Message - 
From: "Sean Paul" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 3:24 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Showing the BCC field with outlook express


Heyya gang. Trying to get this here old machine up & running againe. 
Trying to figure out how to show the BCC field using outlook express. 
Made sure that all headers was checked in the view menu. Still is not 
showing @ this point. Using Jaws9 Windows XP SP3. Any other ideas or 
help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.

[Ann Byrne]

Go to the new message windows.  then press alt+p Papa for Options.
It should be there.
At 01:37 PM 8/29/2011, you wrote:
Anne, when I  hit alt T in the message window in outlook 2007 I get 
a windows boink sound and no choices to do anything. Jim


--
From: "Ann Byrne" 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:57 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.


It's under alt-p when you're in the message window.
At 12:25 PM 8/29/2011, you wrote:
I am running windows 7, home premium, jaws 12, latest fix, on a 64 
bit machine, and I have forgotten how to set the BCC field in 
outlook 2007. Help with this please. thanks. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

[Adi Kushnir]

Hi,
VMWare player is great!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Icewolf
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

Hello all,
What virtual software works well with JAWS 12 latest version.  I am taking
an architecture and operating systems class at school and I will need to
install linux on a virtual machine for the class.
Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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[JAWS-Users] Question about virtual software

[Icewolf]

Hello all,
What virtual software works well with JAWS 12 latest version.  I am 
taking an architecture and operating systems class at school and I will 
need to install linux on a virtual machine for the class.

Thanks,
Greg Wocher

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.

[jim rawls]

Anne, when I  hit alt T in the message window in outlook 2007 I get a 
windows boink sound and no choices to do anything. Jim


--
From: "Ann Byrne" 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:57 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.


It's under alt-p when you're in the message window.
At 12:25 PM 8/29/2011, you wrote:
I am running windows 7, home premium, jaws 12, latest fix, on a 64 bit 
machine, and I have forgotten how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007. 
Help with this please. thanks. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.

[Ann Byrne]

It's under alt-p when you're in the message window.
At 12:25 PM 8/29/2011, you wrote:
I am running windows 7, home premium, jaws 12, latest fix, on a 64 
bit machine, and I have forgotten how to set the BCC field in 
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[JAWS-Users] how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007.

[jim rawls]

I am running windows 7, home premium, jaws 12, latest fix, on a 64 bit machine, 
and I have forgotten how to set the BCC field in outlook 2007. Help with this 
please. thanks. Jim
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email with windows 7

[David Ferrin]

Windows mail is available in windows 7  with the proper tools to unlock the 
program which can be found on the programs page.

David Ferrin
Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good 
at it.
- Original Message - 
From: "Deanne Miller" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:45 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email with windows 7



Hello:
Does anyone know if there is a JAWS friendly email client that will work 
with Windows 7? I am trying to help someone set up his Windows 7 computer, 
and he is insisting that he wants his email to be as easy to use as 
Windows Mail was with Vista. I can't find a JAWS friendly  email client 
that works well in Windows 7. Any suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated.

Deanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email with windows 7

[Allen Dunbar]

Try outlook mail it is very similar to outlook express 

Allen in dallas 

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Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email with windows 7

Hello:
Does anyone know if there is a JAWS friendly email client that will work
with Windows 7? I am trying to help someone set up his Windows 7 computer,
and he is insisting that he wants his email to be as easy to use as Windows
Mail was with Vista. I can't find a JAWS friendly  email client that works
well in Windows 7. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Deanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users-List Digest, Vol 153, Issue 2

[Harold]

Good Afternoon:

You may wish to consider either Thunderbird or Microsoft Outlook.  They are 
both JAWS accessible.


Harold

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Hello:
Does anyone know if there is a JAWS friendly email client that will work 
with Windows 7? I am trying to help someone set up his Windows 7 computer, 
and he is insisting that he wants his email to be as easy to use as 
Windows Mail was with Vista. I can't find a JAWS friendly  email client 
that works well in Windows 7. Any suggestions would be greatly 
appreciated.

Deanne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Email with windows 7

[Graham Smith]

well windows live and Eudora both work really well but I am afraid that 
there is some setting up to do.  I believe it is also, again with some 
initial setting up, possible to run windows mail in windows seven.


Graham


-Original Message- 
From: Deanne Miller

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:45
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Email with windows 7

Hello:
Does anyone know if there is a JAWS friendly email client that will work 
with Windows 7? I am trying to help someone set up his Windows 7 computer, 
and he is insisting that he wants his email to be as easy to use as Windows 
Mail was with Vista. I can't find a JAWS friendly  email client that works 
well in Windows 7. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Deanne
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[JAWS-Users] Email with windows 7

[Deanne Miller]

Hello:
Does anyone know if there is a JAWS friendly email client that will work with 
Windows 7? I am trying to help someone set up his Windows 7 computer, and he is 
insisting that he wants his email to be as easy to use as Windows Mail was with 
Vista. I can't find a JAWS friendly  email client that works well in Windows 7. 
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Deanne
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[JAWS-Users] Showing the BCC field with outlook express

[Sean Paul]

Heyya gang. Trying to get this here old machine up & running againe. Trying to 
figure out how to show the BCC field using outlook express. Made sure that all 
headers was checked in the view menu. Still is not showing @ this point. Using 
Jaws9 Windows XP SP3. Any other ideas or help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM

[Graham Smith]

I am using latest build of jaws 12, windows 7, 64 bit and wlm 15

Same here but are you able to use messinger 15.  I can use it to text to my 
contacts that I assigned in earlier versions  but wen it comes to adding a 
new contact, deleting a contact or adding a contact it for me is just not 
possible, would love some help with this one.  Another annoying thing is 
that every message is repeated.


Regards

Graham


-Original Message- 
From: kimsan

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 22:28
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM

Wlm 2011 works well for me, even the chatting part...


kimsans...@aol.com

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of raymond
lombardi
Sent: 26 August, 2011 5:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM




You can make the groups yes, but as far as the chatting goes I really don't
know.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] select and copy internet option

[Flor Lynch]

All the necessary info is still there. Copying from virtual cursor also 
includes JAWS verbosity comments like 'LIST OF 10 ITEMS', or 'LIST END' 
that are not in the real content.


- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew Head" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 8:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] select and copy internet option



Hi all, I have an online document I wish to copy to Microsoft word
to have so I've got it even when my internet temporarily stops 
working. I
firstly copied it into a blank document using the jaws option copy 
full text
from virtual cursor. The document turned out to be 88 pages. I then 
decided
to try copying it using on screen highlight, and the document turned 
out to
be 34 pages, although formatting wasn't there. Just wondering if 
anyone can
please tell me why the document was shorter when the text is copied 
using on

screen highlight? Is all the info still there?
Kind regards,

From Andrew


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Bharat
Sent: Monday, 29 August 2011 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessibility with Google talk

although it may sound I am trying to under-estimate you but trust me, 
that's

not the case at all. when you extracted the scripts, did you copy the
scripts themselves or the extracted folder? because, they did work for 
me

for sometime till I upgraded to the latest builds of jaws 12. now the
scripts no more work with jaws in the chat window at all, while they 
still
work in the messenger window, telling you who all are online & what 
are

their status messages.
   I was hoping I would be able to find some way to recreate the jss 
file
for the scripts, so as to be able to modify & add the necessary things 
in
them but unfortunately, jaws has no documentation around retrieving 
the lost
jss files. writing across to some honchos for the same at fs also 
yielded no

positive results for the same.
   I am sorry, I have no experience with using AIM. have never used 
it.


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From: "harshil ved" 

Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:03 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessability with google talk


Hi Bharat,
I did download the scriptsw and pasted it on the enu folder but still
it does not help. Can you help me a bit more with the same!

And at the same time I did download the AIM set up file but I am
unable to download it. Can you throw some light on how do I go about
it!

Thanks,
Harshil.

On 8/27/11, Bharat  wrote:

please go to the following page:

http://sites.google.com/site/aruni100/

& download the scripts from there, & see if those scripts work for 
you.

though they don't seem to work with JAWS12.

--
From: "harshil ved" 
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 9:06 PM
To: 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessability with google talk


Hello, Is Google talk accessable with jaws? If yes are there any
scripts for it!
If any one uses it please reply. Help would be greatly appreciated.
I am using Jaws 11
Harshil

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails. y keep all the information and listen to the mp3's but I am stiol in the process of redoeri w

[David]

Hello Mandy;

I'm not sure why your not seeing both accounts in WLM, I have 2 accounts
connected to wlm, and I'm seeing both account inboxs and the various other
folders.

When you go into WLM, do you see, quick views open?



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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mandy
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails. y keep all the
information and listen to the mp3's but I am stiol in the process of redoeri
w

Thanks
for all of this - I now have my emails saying who they are from etc but now 
although both email accounts are shown, the only way to see all of my 
messages is to have all inboxes showing because otherwise I don't think read

messages show up.
I will definitely listen to the MP3's but currently trying to sort out my 
laptop after a total hard-drive crash.
So this bit more info would be highly appreciated

:  how do I get the two folders to show up one beneath the other with all of

the folders within each, inbox, sent items etc.
I had the problem like the example you showed  where it said columns 
unavailable.
Mandy.
Rafanatic
-Original Message- 
From: inthane
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Help With Display of Emails.

ok the big trouble is I don't know and neither do you, the "translation"
from menu's to ribbons, but I have some tutorials on windows live mail, so
hopefully one of them will give you the information you need.

first is:
for an audio tutorial on using windows live mail!
go too:
www.accessibleworld.org
and look for the presentation by someone named Mr.  Asner.
Its an MP3 file that you can download and listen too.


here is another good one:
http://email.about.com/od/windowsmailtips/Windows_Mail_Tips_Tricks_and_Secre
ts.htm


ok now this sounds very similar to your troubles and the fix for them:

ok, this is a corrected and headers removed version of a series of Emails
concerning the "HOW it reads" and the altering of this in windows live mail,
I've put them back in the order they came in instead of the last is first
chronology they wind up in to make reading easier for folks.

starting in correct order from first request to end of problem fix, first
post:

  hello folks

  in windows vista and XP I was able to sort how emails were viewed and read
by jaws. my emails are now being read by. the name of the sender first then
the date then the time then the subject and then which folder it is in. can
I sort this so the subject is being read first then the sender and then the
date and time if I want it. or maybe stop the date and time and folder which
it is being read from not to be announced. I cant find any options in the
view menu to do this. many thanks in advance.

  regards
  Vincent

next:


Hi Vincent,

you can open the Columns dialog from the view menu - I think this allows
you to do what you want to do,

David.

next:
hello David

it is saying all the time that columns are unavailable. I thought that was
were I done it in vista and XP. but it says unavailable. can you suggest how
to activate this.

regards
Vincent


Next:
this is one thing to try:
1. Open the layout dialog on the view menu.
2. Move to the Message list button, and press it using spacebar.
3. When you do this, the button expands and shows some text and controls
which Jaws (and probably other screen readers don't automatically read.
What's there is the text Show messages using: followed by a group of three
radio buttons: Choose view automatically;
two-line view; and one-line view. By default it seems to be set to choose
view automatically, and on my machine if it's set to that or the one-line
view, then I can access the columns dialog. However if it's set to two line
view, the the columns dialog is unavailable, and the reading order of
subject, date etc is as you've previously described. The easiest was to set
an option is to use it's access key:
Choose view automatically (alt+u), two-line view (alt+t), one-line view
(alt+o). Once you've used an access key jaws reads it, and you can the use
up and down arrows to read the other options if you want to. (The other way
of accessing the options if to route jaws to cursor, read a word at a time
to get to any word in the options, and then route pc to jaws cursor).

best wishes,
David.

ok, hope these help you with that trouble!
you may be able to find a list for the ribbon commands on the microsoft
site, I have one, but its for word 2010 and its ribbon, not WLM.

the last thing is there is a program that returns the ribbons to menu like
arrangements if you would want to install it, but I'd really try to get used
to the ribbons since more and more things are starting to use them!

take care,
inthaneelf


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM

[Cristian CÉSPEDES O .]

And the braille with Jaws and WLM 2011 is not good in the main window,
where we have the contacts list, etc. It's an other topic I was
talking about but as you say WLM works well with you... some help will
be very apreciated about WLM 2011 in general, because most of people,
including me, have not good results with WLM, even, in my case, with
Wjaws 12.

Cristian

2011/8/29, Cristian CÉSPEDES O. :
> Hello Kimsan,
>
> Really? And could you explain me who to make Jaws read automatically
> the messages when they arrive and we were in the chatting window?
> Because when I close the window and I receive a message it is ok, Jaws
> reads me the messages, but when I'm in the chatting window, I must
> being contantely checking in the history if a new message arrived...
> :(
>
>
> Cristian
>
> 2011/8/29, kimsan :
>> Wlm 2011 works well for me, even the chatting part...
>>
>>
>> kimsans...@aol.com
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of raymond
>> lombardi
>> Sent: 26 August, 2011 5:32 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> You can make the groups yes, but as far as the chatting goes I really
>> don't
>> know.
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM

[Cristian CÉSPEDES O .]

Hello Kimsan,

Really? And could you explain me who to make Jaws read automatically
the messages when they arrive and we were in the chatting window?
Because when I close the window and I receive a message it is ok, Jaws
reads me the messages, but when I'm in the chatting window, I must
being contantely checking in the history if a new message arrived...
:(


Cristian

2011/8/29, kimsan :
> Wlm 2011 works well for me, even the chatting part...
>
>
> kimsans...@aol.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of raymond
> lombardi
> Sent: 26 August, 2011 5:32 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 12 messages in WLM
>
>
>
>
> You can make the groups yes, but as far as the chatting goes I really don't
> know.
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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>

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[JAWS-Users] select and copy internet option

[Andrew Head]

Hi all, I have an online document I wish to copy to Microsoft word
to have so I've got it even when my internet temporarily stops working. I
firstly copied it into a blank document using the jaws option copy full text
from virtual cursor. The document turned out to be 88 pages. I then decided
to try copying it using on screen highlight, and the document turned out to
be 34 pages, although formatting wasn't there. Just wondering if anyone can
please tell me why the document was shorter when the text is copied using on
screen highlight? Is all the info still there? 
Kind regards,
>From Andrew

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Bharat
Sent: Monday, 29 August 2011 2:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessibility with Google talk

although it may sound I am trying to under-estimate you but trust me, that's
not the case at all. when you extracted the scripts, did you copy the
scripts themselves or the extracted folder? because, they did work for me
for sometime till I upgraded to the latest builds of jaws 12. now the
scripts no more work with jaws in the chat window at all, while they still
work in the messenger window, telling you who all are online & what are
their status messages.
I was hoping I would be able to find some way to recreate the jss file
for the scripts, so as to be able to modify & add the necessary things in
them but unfortunately, jaws has no documentation around retrieving the lost
jss files. writing across to some honchos for the same at fs also yielded no
positive results for the same.
I am sorry, I have no experience with using AIM. have never used it.

--
From: "harshil ved" 
Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 10:03 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessability with google talk

> Hi Bharat,
> I did download the scriptsw and pasted it on the enu folder but still 
> it does not help. Can you help me a bit more with the same!
>
> And at the same time I did download the AIM set up file but I am 
> unable to download it. Can you throw some light on how do I go about 
> it!
>
> Thanks,
> Harshil.
>
> On 8/27/11, Bharat  wrote:
>> please go to the following page:
>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/aruni100/
>>
>> & download the scripts from there, & see if those scripts work for you.
>> though they don't seem to work with JAWS12.
>>
>> --
>> From: "harshil ved" 
>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 9:06 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws accessability with google talk
>>
>>> Hello, Is Google talk accessable with jaws? If yes are there any 
>>> scripts for it!
>>> If any one uses it please reply. Help would be greatly appreciated.
>>> I am using Jaws 11
>>> Harshil
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
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