Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
Hi Mike, I just found out, that if I use the Right Arrow after useing Control+Shift+C, that I can read all the addresses that I thought I'd lost. However, pressing Enter on a name there, takes me into the Properties rather than filling in the "To" field How do you select a name and start a new email? Thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail Hi Vicky, While in Windows Mail try the control, shift, + C keystroke. The address book in Windows Mail is called contacts. Outside of Windows Mail, press the Windows key to open the start menu & type, contacts, in the search box & press enter. Hope this helped without confusing the hell out of you! LOL Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail Hi Mike and anyone else who is using Window Mail, How do you access your Address Book? On mine I need to use Control K, But I still haven't quite figured out where that fits in the creating a message sinerio. Thanks for any info! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail > Hi Jerry, > > I don't know sqwat about Windows Live Mail but, Windows Mail is very, very > similar to Outlook Express, if it's not an updated version with a > different > name. Take care. > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: jerry martin > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:36 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail > > > To all listers: > > Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and > Windows > Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version > 11. > For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. > > Many Thanks. > > Jerry > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce
Then try changing the keystroke in keyboard manager. 1. press insert+8 from keyboard row. Keyboard manager will open. 2. press ctrl+shift+d to open the default file. 3. press tab to go in the list of keystrokes. 4. press ctrl+f to find specific keystroke. 5. Press the keystroke that works for you to read with alternate voice and press enter. 6. When it finds it press ctrl+a to change it. 7. Press the keystroke you want from now on and press enter. Hope this helps. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce That was the first thing I checked. It is set to Desktop :). I'm in no hurry to reinstall. I did try a different keyboard as well but it does same. I found out today however, that left alt key does work with the ctrl alt page up/down to change speech rate on the fly. I don't have any other adaptable software running other than Qwitter which I unloded thinking some strange key assignment came into play. I don't have any alternative scripts other than Skype scripts, but I had those on an older machine with no issue/conflict. Brad On 11/21/2011 02:21 PM Negoslav Sabev said... Really strange. So the next question is what keyboard layout is chosen in jaws basic options. Don't hurry reinstalling. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Regions and Language settings for the keyboard shows US English but good thought. What is strange is, the left ALT key works in every other situation I've tried, plus this: if you go into help mode with insert 1, and press Insert + rightAlt key + down arrow, Jaws help tells you it will read in an alternative voice. If however, you press insert + leftAlt + down arrow, it says nothing. Conversely, if you press insert, + either right or left alt key, + "s" key for instance, the result is the same, gives you the voice profile box, or help if in help mode. So it appears it is a Jaws issue specific to that hot key combination somehow rather than a keyboard or settings issue. I'd not found it an issue anywhere else. I can live with it, but yes maybe down the road if I get some time, I'll save my settings somewhere and un-, re-install Jaws and see if that helps. Appreciate your taking some idea swings at it though. Brad On 11/20/2011 07:20 AM Negoslav Sabev said... Both alt keys are working here. Maybe the keyboard language layout is messing here. What input language do you use - US? If yes, wich variant - just US, international. The same logic - UK or somethin else? Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:51 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Ok mystery solved but still weird. I've always used the left alt key for this combination, I'd be curious what you use. Jaws is not recognizing the left alt key in these key combos. The alt key works by itself and with other non-Jaws key combination hot keys I've set up for apps and such, but it will not work for this or other Jaws features. It does work with the right alt key. Additionally I do not have "differentiate between left and right paired keys" set in the settings manager so it ought not make a difference. brad On 11/19/2011 01:26 PM Negoslav Sabev said... First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment. Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose sapi5, it will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set it to default it works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow. I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I use sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press alt+down arrow with your settings. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter. But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. . Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't. Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
Bless you Mike! Control+Shift+C worked perfectly!!! It popped me right into my Address/Contacts. Strange, some of my contacts or former email Addresses weren't there. One such was the address for Plextalk users. If you or anyone here is on that list, would you please send me its address? How should I go about finding the addresses that I lost do to my changing to a new computer? Thanks very much again! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail Hi Vicky, While in Windows Mail try the control, shift, + C keystroke. The address book in Windows Mail is called contacts. Outside of Windows Mail, press the Windows key to open the start menu & type, contacts, in the search box & press enter. Hope this helped without confusing the hell out of you! LOL Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail Hi Mike and anyone else who is using Window Mail, How do you access your Address Book? On mine I need to use Control K, But I still haven't quite figured out where that fits in the creating a message sinerio. Thanks for any info! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail > Hi Jerry, > > I don't know sqwat about Windows Live Mail but, Windows Mail is very, very > similar to Outlook Express, if it's not an updated version with a > different > name. Take care. > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: jerry martin > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:36 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail > > > To all listers: > > Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and > Windows > Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version > 11. > For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. > > Many Thanks. > > Jerry > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars
Thanks, but as I said, on mine, it did not work. I'll try redownloading it and see if that makes a difference. Perhaps, I some how received a corrupted version the first time. Vicky - Original Message - From: "Dujari, Prateek" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars The link labeled 'next' at the bottom of the IE9 webinar html file does work and takes you to the conclusions section. When u download the free IE9 with JFW12 webinar, you get 3 htm files with the main majority of the content in the middle htm file and the 3rd htm file is this conclusions section. Prateek -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars I was using the Webinar for IE9 and after I was a little way into it, I came across a "Next" link that did not work. Has anyone else had this happen? I'll try redownloading it after Thanks Giving to see if that makes a difference. Do any of you have any other suggestions? Thanks and Happy Thanks Giving to everyone! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Rode, They are available as archives too so you can listen anytime you like Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:16 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Good schedule for those who do not work, for those of us who do noon Eastern on a Tuesday is no way to win us over. Oh, well, most of them seem to cover things I already know or don't need to know. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Fred, I am talking about the one's Al noted in his last message. There is a free intro webinar for office 2010 this Tuesday for an hour at 12 noon. Also, you can go to the download page for the training area and download audio and text documents with training material for the free webinars. I am going to pay roughly $30 for the Outlook 2010 webinar as you can follow along during the class and or simply use the downloaded materials with or without being at a specific date for training. There is a good schedule of upcoming webinars. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 John, where can I get the jaws office turtorial that you mentioned in your e-mail posting? I am an old man myself and I am still learning windows 7 and outlook 2010. It is a slow process though. FRED ADAMS W4HC -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 Ann, Thank you for this item. I would not have easily found it and I already spent more time on it than I should have. I think I am going to get the jaws office outlook tutorial and approach all of this office 2010 systematically. This program is so different from Office 2003 that I really need to start from scratch. So hopefully an old dog can learn new tricks. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 the thing about Outlook 2010 that I'm fighting with is that the ribbon changes depending on the page you are on. For example, when you're reading email, the upper ribbon has 'message' at the top, and the lower ribbon choices relate to sending a message. Wo more. When you move the cursor to read a list of attachments, the upper ribbon says 'attachments'. and the lower ribbon choices deal with attachments. To get to the BCC field, open a new email. Press alt-p to the options tab, and arrow down. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update
Hi Marilyn, To check to see what version of Jaws you have running, try the following; 1. If you run Jaws from the system tray, press insert / Jaws key + J, then press the letter A, & Jaws will read the currently running version of Jaws. 2. If you are not running Jaws from the system tray, alt + tab, to your Jaws window, invoke your say line keystroke, insert / Jaws key + up arrow, & Jaws will read the currently running version. If Jaws13 was installed you would have a Jaws13 shortcut on your desktop & Jaws13 would probably be running. Below is what the Jaws13 download will read like if you try to find it; J13.0.527-32bit.exe If you downloaded the 32 bit version. If you downloaded the 64 bit version everything would be the same except it would read like this; J13.0.527-64bit.exe I normally have all my downloads go to a designated download folder that I created in the root of my C drive, or I will download stuff to the My Documennts folder just so my downloads are easy to find. If you need more help let us know. Hope this has helped. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Marilyn Walker To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update Mike, I saved it to my programs list. But I still am not sure it is v 13 that is running and not old v 12. I slightly recall that when I installed it from the fs site, I may have hit run and not save. Am I making a problem where none exists? I hate to uninstall v 12 that is still there just to find out. Marilyn - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update : Hi Candy, : : Choose your operating system below & click on the link. Save the download : somewhere on your computer you can access easily. Run / Install the : download from your computer. Actually, here is what Freedom Scientific says : to do; : : 1. When the dialog box opens, choose Save and select a location where you : can easily find the downloaded executable file. : 2. Run the executable and follow the talking installer. : : : For 32 Bit Systems: : : http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J13.0.527-32bit.exe : : For 64 Bit Systems: : : http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J13.0.527-64bit.exe : : Hope this helped. Take care. : Mike : : - Original Message - : From: Candy : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:29 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update : : : Hello everyone, : I am unable to install the latest jaws 13 update. I click on install. It : goes through the steps, and then tells me that the patch can not be : installed. It then said for me to do a jaws repair. I did then, but then : got the same message. Any suggestions? : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update
You can just do insert j and up arrow to tell you this as well Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein "Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have" Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO (Eyes Closed Hearts Open) President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: mark Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update Hi If you do an alt tab several times. You should land on a window that says JAWS. Then use the red line command. This should tell you the current version of JAWS you have running. I hope this helps. God bless, Mark God Loves you! You can visit my website at: http://christiantraditions.info Please visit my blog at: http://christian-traditions.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update Mike, I saved it to my programs list. But I still am not sure it is v 13 that is running and not old v 12. I slightly recall that when I installed it from the fs site, I may have hit run and not save. Am I making a problem where none exists? I hate to uninstall v 12 that is still there just to find out. Marilyn - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update : Hi Candy, : : Choose your operating system below & click on the link. Save the download : somewhere on your computer you can access easily. Run / Install the : download from your computer. Actually, here is what Freedom Scientific says : to do; : : 1. When the dialog box opens, choose Save and select a location where you : can easily find the downloaded executable file. : 2. Run the executable and follow the talking installer. : : : For 32 Bit Systems: : : http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J13.0.527-32bit.exe : : For 64 Bit Systems: : : http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J13.0.527-64bit.exe : : Hope this helped. Take care. : Mike : : - Original Message - : From: Candy : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:29 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update : : : Hello everyone, : I am unable to install the latest jaws 13 update. I click on install. It : goes through the steps, and then tells me that the patch can not be : installed. It then said for me to do a jaws repair. I did then, but then : got the same message. Any suggestions? : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update
Hi If you do an alt tab several times. You should land on a window that says JAWS. Then use the red line command. This should tell you the current version of JAWS you have running. I hope this helps. God bless, Mark God Loves you! You can visit my website at: http://christiantraditions.info Please visit my blog at: http://christian-traditions.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Marilyn Walker Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update Mike, I saved it to my programs list. But I still am not sure it is v 13 that is running and not old v 12. I slightly recall that when I installed it from the fs site, I may have hit run and not save. Am I making a problem where none exists? I hate to uninstall v 12 that is still there just to find out. Marilyn - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update : Hi Candy, : : Choose your operating system below & click on the link. Save the download : somewhere on your computer you can access easily. Run / Install the : download from your computer. Actually, here is what Freedom Scientific says : to do; : : 1. When the dialog box opens, choose Save and select a location where you : can easily find the downloaded executable file. : 2. Run the executable and follow the talking installer. : : : For 32 Bit Systems: : : http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J13.0.527-32bit.exe : : For 64 Bit Systems: : : http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J13.0.527-64bit.exe : : Hope this helped. Take care. : Mike : : - Original Message - : From: Candy : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:29 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update : : : Hello everyone, : I am unable to install the latest jaws 13 update. I click on install. It : goes through the steps, and then tells me that the patch can not be : installed. It then said for me to do a jaws repair. I did then, but then : got the same message. Any suggestions? : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update
Mike, I saved it to my programs list. But I still am not sure it is v 13 that is running and not old v 12. I slightly recall that when I installed it from the fs site, I may have hit run and not save. Am I making a problem where none exists? I hate to uninstall v 12 that is still there just to find out. Marilyn - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update : Hi Candy, : : Choose your operating system below & click on the link. Save the download : somewhere on your computer you can access easily. Run / Install the : download from your computer. Actually, here is what Freedom Scientific says : to do; : : 1. When the dialog box opens, choose Save and select a location where you : can easily find the downloaded executable file. : 2. Run the executable and follow the talking installer. : : : For 32 Bit Systems: : : http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J13.0.527-32bit.exe : : For 64 Bit Systems: : : http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J13.0.527-64bit.exe : : Hope this helped. Take care. : Mike : : - Original Message - : From: Candy : To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com : Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:29 PM : Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 13 update : : : Hello everyone, : I am unable to install the latest jaws 13 update. I click on install. It : goes through the steps, and then tells me that the patch can not be : installed. It then said for me to do a jaws repair. I did then, but then : got the same message. Any suggestions? : : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ : For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: : http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce
Flor, I think you had a missing key there :). Indeed I've checked both of those previously ;). Brad On 11/21/2011 06:34 PM Flor Lynch said... What country keyboard layout? Press alt+shift (presumably the right alt key) to cycle between the different keyboard layouts on your computer. you could test the left alt key on a different keyboard layout should you have one. - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce That was the first thing I checked. It is set to Desktop :). I'm in no hurry to reinstall. I did try a different keyboard as well but it does same. I found out today however, that left alt key does work with the ctrl alt page up/down to change speech rate on the fly. I don't have any other adaptable software running other than Qwitter which I unloded thinking some strange key assignment came into play. I don't have any alternative scripts other than Skype scripts, but I had those on an older machine with no issue/conflict. Brad On 11/21/2011 02:21 PM Negoslav Sabev said... Really strange. So the next question is what keyboard layout is chosen in jaws basic options. Don't hurry reinstalling. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Regions and Language settings for the keyboard shows US English but good thought. What is strange is, the left ALT key works in every other situation I've tried, plus this: if you go into help mode with insert 1, and press Insert + rightAlt key + down arrow, Jaws help tells you it will read in an alternative voice. If however, you press insert + leftAlt + down arrow, it says nothing. Conversely, if you press insert, + either right or left alt key, + "s" key for instance, the result is the same, gives you the voice profile box, or help if in help mode. So it appears it is a Jaws issue specific to that hot key combination somehow rather than a keyboard or settings issue. I'd not found it an issue anywhere else. I can live with it, but yes maybe down the road if I get some time, I'll save my settings somewhere and un-, re-install Jaws and see if that helps. Appreciate your taking some idea swings at it though. Brad On 11/20/2011 07:20 AM Negoslav Sabev said... Both alt keys are working here. Maybe the keyboard language layout is messing here. What input language do you use - US? If yes, wich variant - just US, international. The same logic - UK or somethin else? Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:51 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Ok mystery solved but still weird. I've always used the left alt key for this combination, I'd be curious what you use. Jaws is not recognizing the left alt key in these key combos. The alt key works by itself and with other non-Jaws key combination hot keys I've set up for apps and such, but it will not work for this or other Jaws features. It does work with the right alt key. Additionally I do not have "differentiate between left and right paired keys" set in the settings manager so it ought not make a difference. brad On 11/19/2011 01:26 PM Negoslav Sabev said... First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment. Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose sapi5, it will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set it to default it works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow. I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I use sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press alt+down arrow with your settings. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter. But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. . Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't. Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said... The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
Hi Vicky, While in Windows Mail try the control, shift, + C keystroke. The address book in Windows Mail is called contacts. Outside of Windows Mail, press the Windows key to open the start menu & type, contacts, in the search box & press enter. Hope this helped without confusing the hell out of you! LOL Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: vrvaug...@mailzone.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail Hi Mike and anyone else who is using Window Mail, How do you access your Address Book? On mine I need to use Control K, But I still haven't quite figured out where that fits in the creating a message sinerio. Thanks for any info! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail > Hi Jerry, > > I don't know sqwat about Windows Live Mail but, Windows Mail is very, very > similar to Outlook Express, if it's not an updated version with a > different > name. Take care. > Mike > > - Original Message - > From: jerry martin > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:36 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail > > > To all listers: > > Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and > Windows > Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version > 11. > For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. > > Many Thanks. > > Jerry > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars
The link labeled 'next' at the bottom of the IE9 webinar html file does work and takes you to the conclusions section. When u download the free IE9 with JFW12 webinar, you get 3 htm files with the main majority of the content in the middle htm file and the 3rd htm file is this conclusions section. Prateek -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of vrvaug...@mailzone.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars I was using the Webinar for IE9 and after I was a little way into it, I came across a "Next" link that did not work. Has anyone else had this happen? I'll try redownloading it after Thanks Giving to see if that makes a difference. Do any of you have any other suggestions? Thanks and Happy Thanks Giving to everyone! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars > Rode, > > They are available as archives too so you can listen anytime > you like > > Al > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of > Rose Combs > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:16 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars > > Good schedule for those who do not work, for those of us who > do noon Eastern on a Tuesday is no way to win us over. Oh, > well, most of them seem to cover things I already know or > don't need to know. > > > Rose Combs > roseco...@q.com > > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of > John R Vaughn > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:54 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars > > Fred, I am talking about the one's Al noted in his last > message. > There is a free intro webinar for office 2010 this Tuesday > for an hour at 12 noon. Also, you can go to the download > page for the training area and download audio and text > documents with training material for the free webinars. I > am going to pay roughly $30 for the Outlook 2010 webinar as > you can follow along during the class and or simply use the > downloaded materials with or without being at a specific > date for training. There is a good schedule of upcoming > webinars. > John > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of > Fred Adams > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:25 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook > 2010 > > John, where can I get the jaws office turtorial that you > mentioned in your e-mail posting? I am an old man myself > and I am still learning windows 7 and outlook 2010. It is a > slow process though. > > FRED ADAMS W4HC > > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of > John R Vaughn > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:14 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook > 2010 > > Ann, > Thank you for this item. I would not have easily found it > and I already spent more time on it than I should have. > I think I am going to get the jaws office outlook tutorial > and approach all of this office 2010 systematically. This > program is so different from Office 2003 that I really need > to start from scratch. > So hopefully an old dog can learn new tricks. > John > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of > Ann Byrne > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:44 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 > > the thing about Outlook 2010 that I'm fighting with is that > the ribbon changes depending on the page you are on. For > example, when you're reading email, the upper ribbon has > 'message' at the top, and the lower ribbon choices relate to > sending a message. Wo more. When you move the cursor to > read a list of attachments, the upper ribbon says > 'attachments'. and the lower ribbon choices deal with > attachments. > To get to the BCC field, open a new email. Press alt-p to > the options tab, and arrow down. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list > visit: > http://w
Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce
What country keyboard layout? Press alt+shift (presumably the right alt key) to cycle between the different keyboard layouts on your computer. you could test the left alt key on a different keyboard layout should you have one. - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce That was the first thing I checked. It is set to Desktop :). I'm in no hurry to reinstall. I did try a different keyboard as well but it does same. I found out today however, that left alt key does work with the ctrl alt page up/down to change speech rate on the fly. I don't have any other adaptable software running other than Qwitter which I unloded thinking some strange key assignment came into play. I don't have any alternative scripts other than Skype scripts, but I had those on an older machine with no issue/conflict. Brad On 11/21/2011 02:21 PM Negoslav Sabev said... Really strange. So the next question is what keyboard layout is chosen in jaws basic options. Don't hurry reinstalling. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Regions and Language settings for the keyboard shows US English but good thought. What is strange is, the left ALT key works in every other situation I've tried, plus this: if you go into help mode with insert 1, and press Insert + rightAlt key + down arrow, Jaws help tells you it will read in an alternative voice. If however, you press insert + leftAlt + down arrow, it says nothing. Conversely, if you press insert, + either right or left alt key, + "s" key for instance, the result is the same, gives you the voice profile box, or help if in help mode. So it appears it is a Jaws issue specific to that hot key combination somehow rather than a keyboard or settings issue. I'd not found it an issue anywhere else. I can live with it, but yes maybe down the road if I get some time, I'll save my settings somewhere and un-, re-install Jaws and see if that helps. Appreciate your taking some idea swings at it though. Brad On 11/20/2011 07:20 AM Negoslav Sabev said... Both alt keys are working here. Maybe the keyboard language layout is messing here. What input language do you use - US? If yes, wich variant - just US, international. The same logic - UK or somethin else? Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:51 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Ok mystery solved but still weird. I've always used the left alt key for this combination, I'd be curious what you use. Jaws is not recognizing the left alt key in these key combos. The alt key works by itself and with other non-Jaws key combination hot keys I've set up for apps and such, but it will not work for this or other Jaws features. It does work with the right alt key. Additionally I do not have "differentiate between left and right paired keys" set in the settings manager so it ought not make a difference. brad On 11/19/2011 01:26 PM Negoslav Sabev said... First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment. Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose sapi5, it will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set it to default it works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow. I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I use sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press alt+down arrow with your settings. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter. But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. . Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't. Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said... The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
Hi Mike and anyone else who is using Window Mail, How do you access your Address Book? On mine I need to use Control K, But I still haven't quite figured out where that fits in the creating a message sinerio. Thanks for any info! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail Hi Jerry, I don't know sqwat about Windows Live Mail but, Windows Mail is very, very similar to Outlook Express, if it's not an updated version with a different name. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: jerry martin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail To all listers: Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version 11. For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. Many Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
Margaret, Elf is right as usual. Now, Nextup insists that you buy both the Text Aloud program and it comes in a package with a couple of voices. Sorry about that. I did purchase Text Aloud because it has some nice file splitting capabilities and it will convert an entire folder of files to mp3 without fuss. I like that a lot. John JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 5:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 apparently now you do, arg, I haven't been there for quite a long time, they introduced a "Scottish" accented voice which wasn't great, but wasn't too bad, and that was the last time I looked for the AT&T voices! text aloud is a nice little application, sort of a notepad plus with the ability to automatically turn a text document into a audio MP3 file but it does make it more expensive, blast it, I finally found a female voice I'd like to use as my main voice for my computer, there 16 Hz crystal, and I need buy TA to get it, urg, ok well time to start saving again! good luck, elf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 >I heard back and was referred to > > www.nextup.com > > I found the voice I want, but am confused. Does one have to purchase Text > Aloud in addition to the A T&T Natural Voice just to get the voice? > > Thanks, > > Margaret > > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret > Thomas > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:30 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The > Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link > to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, > Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. > While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? > > Thanks, > > Margaret > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > a few others that are available and fairly popular are: > the A T & T Natural Voices: > www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php > > and the ivona voices (very popular) > www.ivona.com/ > > hope these help, > inthaneelf > • Moderator, Blind Access Help. > • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises > "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" > www.alacorncomputer.com > • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag > for blind computer users and Programmers! > http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com > - Original Message - > From: "John Justice" > To: > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > >> Hi Margaret, >> It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from >> Freedom Scientific, itself. >> There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. >> Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or >> 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. >> There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety >> of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, >> have >> that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. >> >> >> JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE >> WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY >> PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net >> >> -Original Message- >> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret >> Thomas >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM >> To: ju >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 >> >> Hi All, >> >> I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with >> Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope >> there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly >> prefer >> the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and >> ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
Hi Margaret. Ken may have changed his policy but I doubt it. As far as I know, you can buy voices like Crystal, Mike and so on independently. John JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I heard back and was referred to www.nextup.com I found the voice I want, but am confused. Does one have to purchase Text Aloud in addition to the A T&T Natural Voice just to get the voice? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > Hi Margaret, > It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from > Freedom Scientific, itself. > There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. > Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or > 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. > There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety > of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have > that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. > > > JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE > WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY > PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret > Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM > To: ju > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > Hi All, > > I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with > Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope > there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer > the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and > ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t > compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are > possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work > better for me. > > Thank you, > > Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars
I was using the Webinar for IE9 and after I was a little way into it, I came across a "Next" link that did not work. Has anyone else had this happen? I'll try redownloading it after Thanks Giving to see if that makes a difference. Do any of you have any other suggestions? Thanks and Happy Thanks Giving to everyone! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Alan Robbins" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Rode, They are available as archives too so you can listen anytime you like Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:16 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Good schedule for those who do not work, for those of us who do noon Eastern on a Tuesday is no way to win us over. Oh, well, most of them seem to cover things I already know or don't need to know. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Fred, I am talking about the one's Al noted in his last message. There is a free intro webinar for office 2010 this Tuesday for an hour at 12 noon. Also, you can go to the download page for the training area and download audio and text documents with training material for the free webinars. I am going to pay roughly $30 for the Outlook 2010 webinar as you can follow along during the class and or simply use the downloaded materials with or without being at a specific date for training. There is a good schedule of upcoming webinars. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 John, where can I get the jaws office turtorial that you mentioned in your e-mail posting? I am an old man myself and I am still learning windows 7 and outlook 2010. It is a slow process though. FRED ADAMS W4HC -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 Ann, Thank you for this item. I would not have easily found it and I already spent more time on it than I should have. I think I am going to get the jaws office outlook tutorial and approach all of this office 2010 systematically. This program is so different from Office 2003 that I really need to start from scratch. So hopefully an old dog can learn new tricks. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 the thing about Outlook 2010 that I'm fighting with is that the ribbon changes depending on the page you are on. For example, when you're reading email, the upper ribbon has 'message' at the top, and the lower ribbon choices relate to sending a message. Wo more. When you move the cursor to read a list of attachments, the upper ribbon says 'attachments'. and the lower ribbon choices deal with attachments. To get to the BCC field, open a new email. Press alt-p to the options tab, and arrow down. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
apparently now you do, arg, I haven't been there for quite a long time, they introduced a "Scottish" accented voice which wasn't great, but wasn't too bad, and that was the last time I looked for the AT&T voices! text aloud is a nice little application, sort of a notepad plus with the ability to automatically turn a text document into a audio MP3 file but it does make it more expensive, blast it, I finally found a female voice I'd like to use as my main voice for my computer, there 16 Hz crystal, and I need buy TA to get it, urg, ok well time to start saving again! good luck, elf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I heard back and was referred to www.nextup.com I found the voice I want, but am confused. Does one have to purchase Text Aloud in addition to the A T&T Natural Voice just to get the voice? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 Hi Margaret, It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from Freedom Scientific, itself. There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM To: ju Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 Hi All, I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work better for me. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce
That was the first thing I checked. It is set to Desktop :). I'm in no hurry to reinstall. I did try a different keyboard as well but it does same. I found out today however, that left alt key does work with the ctrl alt page up/down to change speech rate on the fly. I don't have any other adaptable software running other than Qwitter which I unloded thinking some strange key assignment came into play. I don't have any alternative scripts other than Skype scripts, but I had those on an older machine with no issue/conflict. Brad On 11/21/2011 02:21 PM Negoslav Sabev said... Really strange. So the next question is what keyboard layout is chosen in jaws basic options. Don't hurry reinstalling. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Regions and Language settings for the keyboard shows US English but good thought. What is strange is, the left ALT key works in every other situation I've tried, plus this: if you go into help mode with insert 1, and press Insert + rightAlt key + down arrow, Jaws help tells you it will read in an alternative voice. If however, you press insert + leftAlt + down arrow, it says nothing. Conversely, if you press insert, + either right or left alt key, + "s" key for instance, the result is the same, gives you the voice profile box, or help if in help mode. So it appears it is a Jaws issue specific to that hot key combination somehow rather than a keyboard or settings issue. I'd not found it an issue anywhere else. I can live with it, but yes maybe down the road if I get some time, I'll save my settings somewhere and un-, re-install Jaws and see if that helps. Appreciate your taking some idea swings at it though. Brad On 11/20/2011 07:20 AM Negoslav Sabev said... Both alt keys are working here. Maybe the keyboard language layout is messing here. What input language do you use - US? If yes, wich variant - just US, international. The same logic - UK or somethin else? Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:51 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Ok mystery solved but still weird. I've always used the left alt key for this combination, I'd be curious what you use. Jaws is not recognizing the left alt key in these key combos. The alt key works by itself and with other non-Jaws key combination hot keys I've set up for apps and such, but it will not work for this or other Jaws features. It does work with the right alt key. Additionally I do not have "differentiate between left and right paired keys" set in the settings manager so it ought not make a difference. brad On 11/19/2011 01:26 PM Negoslav Sabev said... First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment. Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose sapi5, it will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set it to default it works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow. I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I use sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press alt+down arrow with your settings. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter. But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. . Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't. Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said... The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct, when using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW). While the default Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and navigating short text such as prior or next line, sentence, or paragraph, it may not be the preferred voice for longer passages of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct voice chosen remains active during the Say All even as you fast forward, rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the Sa
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
Thanks for clearing that up Janie. - Original Message - From: "Janie Degenshein" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail Windows mail is underthe vista os and windows live mail is under the win 7 platform Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein "Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have" Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO (Eyes Closed Hearts Open) President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: jerry martin Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail To all listers: Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version 11. For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. Many Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
Thanks Mike. One of the posters said that Windows Mail is under the Windows Vista operating system and Windows Live Mail is under the Windows 7 operating system, so that about clears that up, I guess. Thanks again. - Original Message - From: "Mike & Barbara" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:24 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail Hi Jerry, I don't know sqwat about Windows Live Mail but, Windows Mail is very, very similar to Outlook Express, if it's not an updated version with a different name. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: jerry martin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail To all listers: Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version 11. For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. Many Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
hmmm, not as far as I know, might it be in a package with some sort of reading software? I noticed some expensive packages on the ivona site, then realized it was the voice or voices in a package with a reader application, which I don't need so scouted around until I found just the voice packages, they were much cheaper! HTH, inthane • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:30 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 Hi Margaret, It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from Freedom Scientific, itself. There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM To: ju Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 Hi All, I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work better for me. Thank you, Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
Yes, on most of the voices at Nextup you do. once installed together with Textaloud or some other of their offerings, you can use the Nextup voices with any program on your computer that uses sapi. hth Doris At 03:53 PM 11/21/2011 -0500, you wrote: I heard back and was referred to www.nextup.com I found the voice I want, but am confused. Does one have to purchase Text Aloud in addition to the A T&T Natural Voice just to get the voice? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf Moderator, Blind Access Help. Owner:er: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor: IInthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > Hi Margaret, > It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from > Freedom Scientific, itself. > There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. > Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or > 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. > There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety > of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have > that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. > > > JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE > WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY > PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret > Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM > To: ju > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > Hi All, > > Iâve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with > Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope > thereâs some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer > the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and > ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isnât > compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are > possible these days? Iâll happily pay for any voices that I like and work > better for me. > > Thank you, > > Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up!
Not really but have you tried loading jaws via the startup group rather than as a service? In the past, sometimes some antivirus software that also loaded early on in the boot process interfered with jaws. Loading jaws from the startup group is the same aas brining it up with your jaws hotkey and will launch jaws only after your desktop is completely loaded and after the login screen if you are displaying that. If you need speech at the login screen, you may want to consider installing nvda and having that come up at the login screen rather than jaws. hth Doris At 04:21 PM 11/21/2011 +, you wrote: Hi Flor, No nothing that I can tell here and even with the recent jaws 13 update it still hasn't made any difference. Paul. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 17 November 2011 23:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! Paul, Any other updates waiting, such as for instance Adobe Flash? - Original Message - From: "(Lists) Paul Traynor" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! > Hi All, > > Jaws 13, windows XP home. After installing jaws 13 from the DVD and > setting > it to load up on start-up I rebooted the computer and it won't load > up. > Tried restarting a couple of times but it fails to start. However, if > I then > do the jaws unload keystrokes of alt + F4 followed by enter and use > the > keys, "control + Alt + J" it will load up. It acts like jaws is loaded > but > just not talking. I uninstalled then reinstalled from the download > package > on the FS web site but still the same behaviour. > > Anyone seen this before or have any ideas as to why it would act like > this. > > Many thanks, > > Paul. > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 6372 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6498 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
Hi Jerry, I don't know sqwat about Windows Live Mail but, Windows Mail is very, very similar to Outlook Express, if it's not an updated version with a different name. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: jerry martin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:36 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail To all listers: Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version 11. For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. Many Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
I believe you can purchase the voice you wish on it's own according to my memory of that company. David Ferrin A person who has a closed mind is afraid of learning. - Original Message - From: "Margaret Thomas" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I heard back and was referred to www.nextup.com I found the voice I want, but am confused. Does one have to purchase Text Aloud in addition to the A T&T Natural Voice just to get the voice? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > Hi Margaret, > It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from > Freedom Scientific, itself. > There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. > Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or > 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. > There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety > of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have > that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. > > > JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE > WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY > PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret > Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM > To: ju > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > Hi All, > > I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with > Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope > there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer > the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and > ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t > compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are > possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work > better for me. > > Thank you, > > Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
I heard back and was referred to www.nextup.com I found the voice I want, but am confused. Does one have to purchase Text Aloud in addition to the A T&T Natural Voice just to get the voice? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > Hi Margaret, > It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from > Freedom Scientific, itself. > There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. > Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or > 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. > There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety > of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have > that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. > > > JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE > WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY > PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret > Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM > To: ju > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > Hi All, > > I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with > Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope > there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer > the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and > ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t > compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are > possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work > better for me. > > Thank you, > > Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce
Really strange. So the next question is what keyboard layout is chosen in jaws basic options. Don't hurry reinstalling. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 2:11 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Regions and Language settings for the keyboard shows US English but good thought. What is strange is, the left ALT key works in every other situation I've tried, plus this: if you go into help mode with insert 1, and press Insert + rightAlt key + down arrow, Jaws help tells you it will read in an alternative voice. If however, you press insert + leftAlt + down arrow, it says nothing. Conversely, if you press insert, + either right or left alt key, + "s" key for instance, the result is the same, gives you the voice profile box, or help if in help mode. So it appears it is a Jaws issue specific to that hot key combination somehow rather than a keyboard or settings issue. I'd not found it an issue anywhere else. I can live with it, but yes maybe down the road if I get some time, I'll save my settings somewhere and un-, re-install Jaws and see if that helps. Appreciate your taking some idea swings at it though. Brad On 11/20/2011 07:20 AM Negoslav Sabev said... Both alt keys are working here. Maybe the keyboard language layout is messing here. What input language do you use - US? If yes, wich variant - just US, international. The same logic - UK or somethin else? Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:51 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Solved with question/ was Re: Alternate vioce Ok mystery solved but still weird. I've always used the left alt key for this combination, I'd be curious what you use. Jaws is not recognizing the left alt key in these key combos. The alt key works by itself and with other non-Jaws key combination hot keys I've set up for apps and such, but it will not work for this or other Jaws features. It does work with the right alt key. Additionally I do not have "differentiate between left and right paired keys" set in the settings manager so it ought not make a difference. brad On 11/19/2011 01:26 PM Negoslav Sabev said... First, the settings are in jaws/options.voices/voice adjustment. Second, if you adjust the speech synthesizer (alt+l) and choose sapi5, it will work by pressing insert+down arrow. If you set it to default it works by pressing alt+insert+down arrow. I can't comment if windows7 voice is the problem - probably not. I use sapi5 voice and it's ok. I think you just need to press alt+down arrow with your settings. Negoslav - Original Message - From: "Brad Dunse'" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternate vioce OK well then I must not have something set correct. But where it is, is the issue. I can find no place to set the synthesizer for Say All as the help described in the Settings Manager. Are we talkking in the Jaws menus/Options/Voices area? Or the voice profile area with Insert Ctrl S, which is kind of one in same? I hsow Elequnce and one of the SAPI voices in the latter. But my choice is to set either one of those as defaultin the first combo box and then the second combo box is for default for the particular application I launch the voice profile from. . Currently Elequence is for both so it ought be switching to the Sapi voice with ALT Insert Down arrow, but it doesn't. Unless I'm missing it, it would be helpful to have synthesizer/voice options in the settings manager, as some of the settings are scattered about making it unsure where to find some of them. Brad On 11/19/2011 10:43 AM Negoslav Sabev said... The option is still alive and kicking. Right from the jfw 13 help Voice Adjustment Say All Group Box JAWS can immediately switch from one synthesizer, for example, Eloquence Software, to another, such as SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct, when using the Say All command (INSERT+DOWN ARROW). While the default Eloquence voice may be useful for reading and navigating short text such as prior or next line, sentence, or paragraph, it may not be the preferred voice for longer passages of text. The SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct voice chosen remains active during the Say All even as you fast forward, rewind, speed up, or slow down. However, when you stop the Say All, the Eloquence voice returns. Use the following controls in the Say All group to set preferences for how the Say All command works. Speech Synthesizer Use this combo box to select the synthesizer used for Say All. Select either Default, SAPI 5, or RealSpeak Solo Direct. When using Default, all other controls in the Say All group are unavailable. Also, note that RealSpeak Solo Direct is only available if you have downloaded and installed a RealSpeak Solo Direct voice. If the Say All synthesizer is Default, then either SAPI 5 or RealSpeak Solo Direct will be used for an Alternat
Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
Windows mail is underthe vista os and windows live mail is under the win 7 platform Keep Smiling, Janie Degenshein "Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have" Access Tech Consultant Facilitator of ECHO (Eyes Closed Hearts Open) President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html jdege...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: jerry martin Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 9:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail To all listers: Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version 11. For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. Many Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars
They do archive the webinars for those of us who can't do them in real time. At 07:16 AM 11/21/2011, you wrote: Good schedule for those who do not work, for those of us who do noon Eastern on a Tuesday is no way to win us over. Oh, well, most of them seem to cover things I already know or don't need to know. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Fred, I am talking about the one's Al noted in his last message. There is a free intro webinar for office 2010 this Tuesday for an hour at 12 noon. Also, you can go to the download page for the training area and download audio and text documents with training material for the free webinars. I am going to pay roughly $30 for the Outlook 2010 webinar as you can follow along during the class and or simply use the downloaded materials with or without being at a specific date for training. There is a good schedule of upcoming webinars. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 John, where can I get the jaws office turtorial that you mentioned in your e-mail posting? I am an old man myself and I am still learning windows 7 and outlook 2010. It is a slow process though. FRED ADAMS W4HC -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 Ann, Thank you for this item. I would not have easily found it and I already spent more time on it than I should have. I think I am going to get the jaws office outlook tutorial and approach all of this office 2010 systematically. This program is so different from Office 2003 that I really need to start from scratch. So hopefully an old dog can learn new tricks. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 the thing about Outlook 2010 that I'm fighting with is that the ribbon changes depending on the page you are on. For example, when you're reading email, the upper ribbon has 'message' at the top, and the lower ribbon choices relate to sending a message. Wo more. When you move the cursor to read a list of attachments, the upper ribbon says 'attachments'. and the lower ribbon choices deal with attachments. To get to the BCC field, open a new email. Press alt-p to the options tab, and arrow down. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13
I found an A T&T Natural voice I like and a couple of Ivona ones. The Ivona ones seem straight forward to add to cart, but I followed the link to purchase the A T&T one and got lost. The way I'm reading the page, Wizzard Software Corp. handles sales and I just sent them an e-mail. While I'm waiting to hear back can the Mike voice really be $295.00? Thanks, Margaret -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of inthane Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 7:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 a few others that are available and fairly popular are: the A T & T Natural Voices: www2.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php and the ivona voices (very popular) www.ivona.com/ hope these help, inthaneelf • Moderator, Blind Access Help. • Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises "own the might and majesty of an alacorn" www.alacorncomputer.com • proprietor: Inthane's Grab Bag for blind computer users and Programmers! http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com - Original Message - From: "John Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > Hi Margaret, > It is possible to download voices that will work with jaws 12 and 13 from > Freedom Scientific, itself. > There are several offered by a company called Real Speak Solo Direct. > Once you have acquired some of those voices, you can configure Jaws 12 or > 13 to operate, using that synthesizer rather than Eloquence. > There are also several voices called SAPI 5 which offer quite a variety > of different people to choose from. Some, like Samantha for example, have > that sharp clear sound you might be looking for. > > > JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE > WITH GUIDE DOGS JAKE AND ZACHARY > PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net > > -Original Message- > From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret > Thomas > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:25 AM > To: ju > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternatives to Eloquence for JAWS 12 and 13 > > Hi All, > > I’ve got a bit of a hearing problem and am having very bad problems with > Eloquence on my new Windows 7 machine with JAWS 12 and 13 and really hope > there’s some alternative that would suit my needs better. I vastly prefer > the GW Micro version of DEC-Talk Access 32 that I purchased years ago and > ran on my XP Home computer, but my understanding is that it isn’t > compatible with the newer versions of JAWS. What alternatives are > possible these days? I’ll happily pay for any voices that I like and work > better for me. > > Thank you, > > Margaret For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up!
I know that on my machine, when I make adjustments to the msconfig be it unchecking active sync or quicktime or some other program that gets turned on for whatever reason, the Start Jaws automatically check box in the options/basic menu gets unchecked. Have you checked to see that your start Jaws automatically check box isn't getting unchecked for some odd reason? -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of (Lists) Paul Traynor Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! Hi Flor, No nothing that I can tell here and even with the recent jaws 13 update it still hasn't made any difference. Paul. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 17 November 2011 23:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! Paul, Any other updates waiting, such as for instance Adobe Flash? - Original Message - From: "(Lists) Paul Traynor" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! > Hi All, > > Jaws 13, windows XP home. After installing jaws 13 from the DVD and > setting > it to load up on start-up I rebooted the computer and it won't load > up. > Tried restarting a couple of times but it fails to start. However, if > I then > do the jaws unload keystrokes of alt + F4 followed by enter and use > the > keys, "control + Alt + J" it will load up. It acts like jaws is loaded > but > just not talking. I uninstalled then reinstalled from the download > package > on the FS web site but still the same behaviour. > > Anyone seen this before or have any ideas as to why it would act like > this. > > Many thanks, > > Paul. > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 6372 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6498 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up!
Hi Flor, No nothing that I can tell here and even with the recent jaws 13 update it still hasn't made any difference. Paul. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 17 November 2011 23:04 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! Paul, Any other updates waiting, such as for instance Adobe Flash? - Original Message - From: "(Lists) Paul Traynor" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 3:03 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 13 failing to load on start up! > Hi All, > > Jaws 13, windows XP home. After installing jaws 13 from the DVD and > setting > it to load up on start-up I rebooted the computer and it won't load > up. > Tried restarting a couple of times but it fails to start. However, if > I then > do the jaws unload keystrokes of alt + F4 followed by enter and use > the > keys, "control + Alt + J" it will load up. It acts like jaws is loaded > but > just not talking. I uninstalled then reinstalled from the download > package > on the FS web site but still the same behaviour. > > Anyone seen this before or have any ideas as to why it would act like > this. > > Many thanks, > > Paul. > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 6372 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 6498 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail
To all listers: Can anyone tell me what the difference is between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail? I am using Windows Vista on a 32 bit system and JAWS version 11. For my email program, I am using Windows Mail. Many Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars
Rode, They are available as archives too so you can listen anytime you like Al -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:16 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Good schedule for those who do not work, for those of us who do noon Eastern on a Tuesday is no way to win us over. Oh, well, most of them seem to cover things I already know or don't need to know. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Fred, I am talking about the one's Al noted in his last message. There is a free intro webinar for office 2010 this Tuesday for an hour at 12 noon. Also, you can go to the download page for the training area and download audio and text documents with training material for the free webinars. I am going to pay roughly $30 for the Outlook 2010 webinar as you can follow along during the class and or simply use the downloaded materials with or without being at a specific date for training. There is a good schedule of upcoming webinars. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 John, where can I get the jaws office turtorial that you mentioned in your e-mail posting? I am an old man myself and I am still learning windows 7 and outlook 2010. It is a slow process though. FRED ADAMS W4HC -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 Ann, Thank you for this item. I would not have easily found it and I already spent more time on it than I should have. I think I am going to get the jaws office outlook tutorial and approach all of this office 2010 systematically. This program is so different from Office 2003 that I really need to start from scratch. So hopefully an old dog can learn new tricks. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 the thing about Outlook 2010 that I'm fighting with is that the ribbon changes depending on the page you are on. For example, when you're reading email, the upper ribbon has 'message' at the top, and the lower ribbon choices relate to sending a message. Wo more. When you move the cursor to read a list of attachments, the upper ribbon says 'attachments'. and the lower ribbon choices deal with attachments. To get to the BCC field, open a new email. Press alt-p to the options tab, and arrow down. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] word 2002 and jaws 13
Hi Lenny, Try pressing Insert / Jaws Key + Z. This keystroke toggles quick key navigation mode on / off. Hope this helps. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:19 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] word 2002 and jaws 13 I am using word 2002. I never needed to upgrade because I only produce letters, envelopes and write some stories. I just wrote a long story and discovered that quick keys do not now work. Is it because it is word 2002? If so what versionn of word is best to use, 2007 or 2010? I am using win 7 32 bit tia --- Please visit my home page, it is motivational, educational, inspirational with a touch of humor. There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind. http://www.LennyMcHugh.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars
Rose, I prefer the archived versions of the webinars anyway, I can start and stop them at will and go back if I want. I don't, personally, feel that I am losing out on anything, and gaining quite a bit by using the archived versions of the webinars. -- Blue skies. Dan Rossi Carnegie Mellon University. E-Mail: d...@andrew.cmu.edu Tel:(412) 268-9081 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars
The nice thing about the webinars is that they are archived. So you can do them whenever your schedule allows. If you can't make the original time, you can still sign up for it and take it later when time permits, as often as you'd like by the way. Regards, Eric -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rose Combs Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 8:16 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Good schedule for those who do not work, for those of us who do noon Eastern on a Tuesday is no way to win us over. Oh, well, most of them seem to cover things I already know or don't need to know. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Fred, I am talking about the one's Al noted in his last message. There is a free intro webinar for office 2010 this Tuesday for an hour at 12 noon. Also, you can go to the download page for the training area and download audio and text documents with training material for the free webinars. I am going to pay roughly $30 for the Outlook 2010 webinar as you can follow along during the class and or simply use the downloaded materials with or without being at a specific date for training. There is a good schedule of upcoming webinars. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 John, where can I get the jaws office turtorial that you mentioned in your e-mail posting? I am an old man myself and I am still learning windows 7 and outlook 2010. It is a slow process though. FRED ADAMS W4HC -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 Ann, Thank you for this item. I would not have easily found it and I already spent more time on it than I should have. I think I am going to get the jaws office outlook tutorial and approach all of this office 2010 systematically. This program is so different from Office 2003 that I really need to start from scratch. So hopefully an old dog can learn new tricks. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 the thing about Outlook 2010 that I'm fighting with is that the ribbon changes depending on the page you are on. For example, when you're reading email, the upper ribbon has 'message' at the top, and the lower ribbon choices relate to sending a message. Wo more. When you move the cursor to read a list of attachments, the upper ribbon says 'attachments'. and the lower ribbon choices deal with attachments. To get to the BCC field, open a new email. Press alt-p to the options tab, and arrow down. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars
Good schedule for those who do not work, for those of us who do noon Eastern on a Tuesday is no way to win us over. Oh, well, most of them seem to cover things I already know or don't need to know. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] FS training webinars Fred, I am talking about the one's Al noted in his last message. There is a free intro webinar for office 2010 this Tuesday for an hour at 12 noon. Also, you can go to the download page for the training area and download audio and text documents with training material for the free webinars. I am going to pay roughly $30 for the Outlook 2010 webinar as you can follow along during the class and or simply use the downloaded materials with or without being at a specific date for training. There is a good schedule of upcoming webinars. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 1:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 John, where can I get the jaws office turtorial that you mentioned in your e-mail posting? I am an old man myself and I am still learning windows 7 and outlook 2010. It is a slow process though. FRED ADAMS W4HC -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John R Vaughn Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:14 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 Ann, Thank you for this item. I would not have easily found it and I already spent more time on it than I should have. I think I am going to get the jaws office outlook tutorial and approach all of this office 2010 systematically. This program is so different from Office 2003 that I really need to start from scratch. So hopefully an old dog can learn new tricks. John -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 11:44 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding the BCC Field in Outlook 2010 the thing about Outlook 2010 that I'm fighting with is that the ribbon changes depending on the page you are on. For example, when you're reading email, the upper ribbon has 'message' at the top, and the lower ribbon choices relate to sending a message. Wo more. When you move the cursor to read a list of attachments, the upper ribbon says 'attachments'. and the lower ribbon choices deal with attachments. To get to the BCC field, open a new email. Press alt-p to the options tab, and arrow down. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
