Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
John, Here's my take on your questions, after having updated 2 of my computers to Windows 10 in the past week. 1 of these computers was a Windows 7 machine, and the other was an 8.1 machine. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. Answer for #s 1 2: You are right in what you are saying, but Internet Explorer does work very well with Windows 10, and so does Windows Live Mail, which I have used for years, and I have heard many saying that Outlook is working well too, so this should not be a hold back from updating. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? Answer: I say yes, there is a huge difference. First, if you have had the opportunity to use both Windows 7 and 8.1, then you know the differences there, and as well, you know what you liked and disliked about both of them, this being said, imagine an operating system that takes the best from each, and combines them into one major upgrade, then, Microsoft gives it to you for free! What's not to like? Secondly, I have not found very much in Windows 10 that just does not work. Everything that I have tried so far, except for Edge and the Mail app have worked well, even Cortana workkes well, and she always seems to give me the information that I ask for, or perform the task that I ask her to. . 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? Answer: I say yes again. I believe that Microsoft and/or Freedom Scientific, will do what ever it takes to make both of these applications work with JAWS in the near future. It is true, that right now, they are both in an unusable state, but this was mentioned up front, and the decisions to update have still been in record breaking numbers. Mostly, I have heard only good reviews of the program to this point, and yes, there have been some who have experienced some problems trying to install the update, but many times, I believe it has been because Microsoft's recommendations were not followed during the process. I have installed the thing onto 2 of my computers so far, one of which I am about to give uto someone else to use, and I am about to install Windows 10 onto my last computer, a Lenovo desktop which I recently purchased. So far, I have not experienced any problems with updating either of my computers, and the whole process takes only about 2 hours to perform. I used narrator during both of my installations to select the Typical installation option, and shortly after, my computers rebooted and JAWS began speaking again. Nothing was lost in the process, just as promised. Having used Windows 10 for a little while now, I don't think that I would want to go back to 7 or 8.1. Both are great operating systems, but both are lacking in some areas that I believe are made up for in Windows 10. At any rate, this is my opinion, and I believe it counts for something, if not to anyone but me. I say to you, Update man, you won't regret it. Mike mike@comcast.net -Original Message- From: John Justice Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:14 PM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] deleting windows.old folder
Kevin, Are you saying that your Windows.old folder does not contain anything? If not, that's strange, because it should have a lot of stuff in it. Should you want to revert back to your old operating system, you will need this folder and its contents to do so. Maybe the files and folders within it have gotten hidden in some way? Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] deleting windows.old folder is there a way using disc cleanup and jaws to remove the windows.old folder after upgrading in place? when I select cleanup system files, I check everything that is not 0 bytes. I execute the cleanup, then after I restart I go back into the c drive and the folder is still there! Email is golden!!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Carolyn, Try your State Library or the BARD website for the books on the Office 2013 applications. I am willing to bet that they are available from one or both of these places. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I'm with you, Jason. I will be happier with Outlook, if I can find out how to enlarge the print size just a little and how to read a sender's e-mail address, as well as how to keep a sender's address. I called the library to see if they had a book on Outlook 2013, but not yet, and neither did American Printing House or National Braille Press. Best from, Carolyn Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct
Yes, it is totally safe to do so, in fact, I do not know where else you might get them from, I do not know if they are available from the publisher's web site or not. The voices that I personally like best are Samantha for a American English voice, and I believe Tom is the only American english male voice available. T his is only my opinion however. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Robin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct Is it SAFE ToDownLoad FreedomScientific's VocalizerDirect and/or FreedomScientific's VocalizerExpressive Voices on its WebSite? JustWonderin' Also, What are the MostCommonly Or ShouldISay MostPreferred Voices AsItPertainsTo JAWS14 JAWS15 JAWS16??? Thanx For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down
Another way of shutting down is to open the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key, as always, then right arrow to the right column, then arrow up to the Power button, and press the space bar, and the options to shutdown, restart, etc will be displayed. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 6:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down what you do is select the desktop with ctrl+m until you hear desktop then one of your icons unselected then just press alt+F4 and you will get the shut down options windows 10 doesn't have a shut down sound so when your screen is blank it's powered off I believe. -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Hieahow do I force a full shut down on my laptop, simply hitting altogether fbled will just close what I'm doing, but not bringing the shut down dialog. When I hit the power button in the start menu, it will just put it into sleep. How do I force my laptop to shut down what I'm doing? I dont want rforce it by holding the power button for 10 seconds, because it would force the update to stop to. I'm using windows 10. My windows 7 and earlier never had this problem. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
I agree, Windows 10 is awesome, A ++! Smoothest transition to a new operating system I have done yet. Give it a try if you want too, or wait but do not be afraid of the new computer system. -Original Message- From: Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down
Hello Kevin, I believe you mean Windows key +m or Windows key +d to go to the desktop. Regards, smart -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: 13 August 2015 01:06 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down what you do is select the desktop with ctrl+m until you hear desktop then one of your icons unselected then just press alt+F4 and you will get the shut down options windows 10 doesn't have a shut down sound so when your screen is blank it's powered off I believe. -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Hieahow do I force a full shut down on my laptop, simply hitting altogether fbled will just close what I'm doing, but not bringing the shut down dialog. When I hit the power button in the start menu, it will just put it into sleep. How do I force my laptop to shut down what I'm doing? I dont want rforce it by holding the power button for 10 seconds, because it would force the update to stop to. I'm using windows 10. My windows 7 and earlier never had this problem. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
I'm having no major problems with 10 either. I upgraded in place. I expect it to get better with time of course, but I don't have plans to go back. I think Edge will be accessible in a couple of months according to FSCast. That podcast would answer a lot of the questions people are asking I'd encourage everyone who can to listen to it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:45 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? amen to that! -Original Message- From: Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct
I think the Expressive voices only work with JAWS 15 and above. I forget how far back the Direct voices go, but I think it might be 13. The Expressive voices are definitely better. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct I've found the Vocalizer Expressive voices to be more responsive. My view is that they are probably as good as Eloquence, at least the one I use, IMHO is! Perhaps some earlier JAWS versions won't take too kindly to them, whereas the Vocalizer Direct (being older and all that) may be better suited. -Original Message- From: Alex Stone Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct I'm not aware of any reason why it wouldn't be safe to download them. Personally, I think they're more trouble than they're worth. Cheers Alex On 12/08/2015 21:56, Robin wrote: Is it SAFE ToDownLoad FreedomScientific's VocalizerDirect and/or FreedomScientific's VocalizerExpressive Voices on its WebSite? JustWonderin' Also, What are the MostCommonly Or ShouldISay MostPreferred Voices AsItPertainsTo JAWS14 JAWS15 JAWS16??? Thanx For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Hi Carolyn, FS has a webinar on Outlook and JAWS. It's around 4 hours worth of audio material for $75. I've seen the cost of other similar products for a lot more money. I'm planning on taking it myself once I wrap up some other things and have some time on my hands. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:28 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I'm with you, Jason. I will be happier with Outlook, if I can find out how to enlarge the print size just a little and how to read a sender's e-mail address, as well as how to keep a sender's address. I called the library to see if they had a book on Outlook 2013, but not yet, and neither did American Printing House or National Braille Press. Best from, Carolyn Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Cortana was RE: WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Hi Mike, You said that you've been using Cortana. Have you ever tried sending email? I did, and she said I needed to set up an account. I have 3 email accounts set up in Outlook on that computer. Does she only send email through the mail app? To keep this JAWS related, I do notice that JAWS doesn't talk over her too much. I'm one of those fortunate people who almost always has a Braille display handy, so I just turn speech off if it's a problem. I want to do more testing before I recommend her to clients. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:09 AM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? John, Here's my take on your questions, after having updated 2 of my computers to Windows 10 in the past week. 1 of these computers was a Windows 7 machine, and the other was an 8.1 machine. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. Answer for #s 1 2: You are right in what you are saying, but Internet Explorer does work very well with Windows 10, and so does Windows Live Mail, which I have used for years, and I have heard many saying that Outlook is working well too, so this should not be a hold back from updating. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? Answer: I say yes, there is a huge difference. First, if you have had the opportunity to use both Windows 7 and 8.1, then you know the differences there, and as well, you know what you liked and disliked about both of them, this being said, imagine an operating system that takes the best from each, and combines them into one major upgrade, then, Microsoft gives it to you for free! What's not to like? Secondly, I have not found very much in Windows 10 that just does not work. Everything that I have tried so far, except for Edge and the Mail app have worked well, even Cortana workkes well, and she always seems to give me the information that I ask for, or perform the task that I ask her to. . 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? Answer: I say yes again. I believe that Microsoft and/or Freedom Scientific, will do what ever it takes to make both of these applications work with JAWS in the near future. It is true, that right now, they are both in an unusable state, but this was mentioned up front, and the decisions to update have still been in record breaking numbers. Mostly, I have heard only good reviews of the program to this point, and yes, there have been some who have experienced some problems trying to install the update, but many times, I believe it has been because Microsoft's recommendations were not followed during the process. I have installed the thing onto 2 of my computers so far, one of which I am about to give uto someone else to use, and I am about to install Windows 10 onto my last computer, a Lenovo desktop which I recently purchased. So far, I have not experienced any problems with updating either of my computers, and the whole process takes only about 2 hours to perform. I used narrator during both of my installations to select the Typical installation option, and shortly after, my computers rebooted and JAWS began speaking again. Nothing was lost in the process, just as promised. Having used Windows 10 for a little while now, I don't think that I would want to go back to 7 or 8.1. Both are great operating systems, but both are lacking in some areas that I believe are made up for in Windows 10. At any rate, this is my opinion, and I believe it counts for something, if not to anyone but me. I say to you, Update man, you won't regret it. Mike mike@comcast.net -Original Message- From: John Justice Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:14 PM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail:
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Mike have you managed to get rid of the windows.old folder the techs say that folder eats up a lot of space! it was said that using disc cleanup can get rid of that but when I used disc cleanup it got rid of everything but the system32 folder so the windows.old is still on the desktop! -Original Message- From: Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:09 AM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? John, Here's my take on your questions, after having updated 2 of my computers to Windows 10 in the past week. 1 of these computers was a Windows 7 machine, and the other was an 8.1 machine. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. Answer for #s 1 2: You are right in what you are saying, but Internet Explorer does work very well with Windows 10, and so does Windows Live Mail, which I have used for years, and I have heard many saying that Outlook is working well too, so this should not be a hold back from updating. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? Answer: I say yes, there is a huge difference. First, if you have had the opportunity to use both Windows 7 and 8.1, then you know the differences there, and as well, you know what you liked and disliked about both of them, this being said, imagine an operating system that takes the best from each, and combines them into one major upgrade, then, Microsoft gives it to you for free! What's not to like? Secondly, I have not found very much in Windows 10 that just does not work. Everything that I have tried so far, except for Edge and the Mail app have worked well, even Cortana workkes well, and she always seems to give me the information that I ask for, or perform the task that I ask her to. . 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? Answer: I say yes again. I believe that Microsoft and/or Freedom Scientific, will do what ever it takes to make both of these applications work with JAWS in the near future. It is true, that right now, they are both in an unusable state, but this was mentioned up front, and the decisions to update have still been in record breaking numbers. Mostly, I have heard only good reviews of the program to this point, and yes, there have been some who have experienced some problems trying to install the update, but many times, I believe it has been because Microsoft's recommendations were not followed during the process. I have installed the thing onto 2 of my computers so far, one of which I am about to give uto someone else to use, and I am about to install Windows 10 onto my last computer, a Lenovo desktop which I recently purchased. So far, I have not experienced any problems with updating either of my computers, and the whole process takes only about 2 hours to perform. I used narrator during both of my installations to select the Typical installation option, and shortly after, my computers rebooted and JAWS began speaking again. Nothing was lost in the process, just as promised. Having used Windows 10 for a little while now, I don't think that I would want to go back to 7 or 8.1. Both are great operating systems, but both are lacking in some areas that I believe are made up for in Windows 10. At any rate, this is my opinion, and I believe it counts for something, if not to anyone but me. I say to you, Update man, you won't regret it. Mike mike@comcast.net -Original Message- From: John Justice Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:14 PM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For
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I know so many shortcuts it's automatic to me but it's not always easy to explain! THANKS! -Original Message- From: Dr. Smart Eze Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:54 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Hello Kevin, I believe you mean Windows key +m or Windows key +d to go to the desktop. Regards, smart -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: 13 August 2015 01:06 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down what you do is select the desktop with ctrl+m until you hear desktop then one of your icons unselected then just press alt+F4 and you will get the shut down options windows 10 doesn't have a shut down sound so when your screen is blank it's powered off I believe. -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Hieahow do I force a full shut down on my laptop, simply hitting altogether fbled will just close what I'm doing, but not bringing the shut down dialog. When I hit the power button in the start menu, it will just put it into sleep. How do I force my laptop to shut down what I'm doing? I dont want rforce it by holding the power button for 10 seconds, because it would force the update to stop to. I'm using windows 10. My windows 7 and earlier never had this problem. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Mike are you saying that after the computer finishes upgrading and you are presented with the screen where you customize similar to the screen you get after buying a new computer. all that's needed to do is turn on narrator and that will guide you through the customization would that be the same to clean install? -Original Message- From: Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:09 AM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? John, Here's my take on your questions, after having updated 2 of my computers to Windows 10 in the past week. 1 of these computers was a Windows 7 machine, and the other was an 8.1 machine. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. Answer for #s 1 2: You are right in what you are saying, but Internet Explorer does work very well with Windows 10, and so does Windows Live Mail, which I have used for years, and I have heard many saying that Outlook is working well too, so this should not be a hold back from updating. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? Answer: I say yes, there is a huge difference. First, if you have had the opportunity to use both Windows 7 and 8.1, then you know the differences there, and as well, you know what you liked and disliked about both of them, this being said, imagine an operating system that takes the best from each, and combines them into one major upgrade, then, Microsoft gives it to you for free! What's not to like? Secondly, I have not found very much in Windows 10 that just does not work. Everything that I have tried so far, except for Edge and the Mail app have worked well, even Cortana workkes well, and she always seems to give me the information that I ask for, or perform the task that I ask her to. . 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? Answer: I say yes again. I believe that Microsoft and/or Freedom Scientific, will do what ever it takes to make both of these applications work with JAWS in the near future. It is true, that right now, they are both in an unusable state, but this was mentioned up front, and the decisions to update have still been in record breaking numbers. Mostly, I have heard only good reviews of the program to this point, and yes, there have been some who have experienced some problems trying to install the update, but many times, I believe it has been because Microsoft's recommendations were not followed during the process. I have installed the thing onto 2 of my computers so far, one of which I am about to give uto someone else to use, and I am about to install Windows 10 onto my last computer, a Lenovo desktop which I recently purchased. So far, I have not experienced any problems with updating either of my computers, and the whole process takes only about 2 hours to perform. I used narrator during both of my installations to select the Typical installation option, and shortly after, my computers rebooted and JAWS began speaking again. Nothing was lost in the process, just as promised. Having used Windows 10 for a little while now, I don't think that I would want to go back to 7 or 8.1. Both are great operating systems, but both are lacking in some areas that I believe are made up for in Windows 10. At any rate, this is my opinion, and I believe it counts for something, if not to anyone but me. I say to you, Update man, you won't regret it. Mike mike@comcast.net -Original Message- From: John Justice Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:14 PM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Hi Mike, This is the most comprehensive response I have received to date. I appreciate you taking the time to give me a worthwhile response. Thank you. John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:09 AM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? John, Here's my take on your questions, after having updated 2 of my computers to Windows 10 in the past week. 1 of these computers was a Windows 7 machine, and the other was an 8.1 machine. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. Answer for #s 1 2: You are right in what you are saying, but Internet Explorer does work very well with Windows 10, and so does Windows Live Mail, which I have used for years, and I have heard many saying that Outlook is working well too, so this should not be a hold back from updating. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? Answer: I say yes, there is a huge difference. First, if you have had the opportunity to use both Windows 7 and 8.1, then you know the differences there, and as well, you know what you liked and disliked about both of them, this being said, imagine an operating system that takes the best from each, and combines them into one major upgrade, then, Microsoft gives it to you for free! What's not to like? Secondly, I have not found very much in Windows 10 that just does not work. Everything that I have tried so far, except for Edge and the Mail app have worked well, even Cortana workkes well, and she always seems to give me the information that I ask for, or perform the task that I ask her to. . 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? Answer: I say yes again. I believe that Microsoft and/or Freedom Scientific, will do what ever it takes to make both of these applications work with JAWS in the near future. It is true, that right now, they are both in an unusable state, but this was mentioned up front, and the decisions to update have still been in record breaking numbers. Mostly, I have heard only good reviews of the program to this point, and yes, there have been some who have experienced some problems trying to install the update, but many times, I believe it has been because Microsoft's recommendations were not followed during the process. I have installed the thing onto 2 of my computers so far, one of which I am about to give uto someone else to use, and I am about to install Windows 10 onto my last computer, a Lenovo desktop which I recently purchased. So far, I have not experienced any problems with updating either of my computers, and the whole process takes only about 2 hours to perform. I used narrator during both of my installations to select the Typical installation option, and shortly after, my computers rebooted and JAWS began speaking again. Nothing was lost in the process, just as promised. Having used Windows 10 for a little while now, I don't think that I would want to go back to 7 or 8.1. Both are great operating systems, but both are lacking in some areas that I believe are made up for in Windows 10. At any rate, this is my opinion, and I believe it counts for something, if not to anyone but me. I say to you, Update man, you won't regret it. Mike mike@comcast.net -Original Message- From: John Justice Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:14 PM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
I do have it that way. It's a jaws thing from one build to the next. -- From: Dr. Smart Eze smart@kabsi.at Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 10:13 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Hello Michael, How about connecting your laptop via USB to an external keyboard for the shift key down arrow selection of messages, if you are presently having problems? Regards, smart -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro Sent: 13 August 2015 17:34 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Honestly the only thing that is keeping me from upgrading this laptop that I am on now, is the fact that I can no longer use the shift down arrow to select a group of messages in my email. -- From: Michael Boyd mike@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Carolyn, Try your State Library or the BARD website for the books on the Office 2013 applications. I am willing to bet that they are available from one or both of these places. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I'm with you, Jason. I will be happier with Outlook, if I can find out how to enlarge the print size just a little and how to read a sender's e-mail address, as well as how to keep a sender's address. I called the library to see if they had a book on Outlook 2013, but not yet, and neither did American Printing House or National Braille Press. Best from, Carolyn Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Hello Michael, How about connecting your laptop via USB to an external keyboard for the shift key down arrow selection of messages, if you are presently having problems? Regards, smart -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Amaro Sent: 13 August 2015 17:34 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Honestly the only thing that is keeping me from upgrading this laptop that I am on now, is the fact that I can no longer use the shift down arrow to select a group of messages in my email. -- From: Michael Boyd mike@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Carolyn, Try your State Library or the BARD website for the books on the Office 2013 applications. I am willing to bet that they are available from one or both of these places. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I'm with you, Jason. I will be happier with Outlook, if I can find out how to enlarge the print size just a little and how to read a sender's e-mail address, as well as how to keep a sender's address. I called the library to see if they had a book on Outlook 2013, but not yet, and neither did American Printing House or National Braille Press. Best from, Carolyn Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Well, I am still holding off for a while, I have no one here to assist if something does go wrong, and if I ever find another job, 7 seems to be the preferred operating system, last job made me install Acrobat 9 and IE 9 also, talk about being behind. For now, Windows 7, Office 2010 and IE 11 work for my needs. Maybe in the fall or winter I may find a compelling reason to upgrade. If my late husband were here, I might have already endorsed the update. Not taking chances on losing my computer, and since I bought it last year, May 2014, not interested in buying a new one just yet. My Lenovo laptop which I bought in February does not have the power to do much with so far as I can tell, it was the one I was using for work and slower than molasses. I have disks for Windows 8, had to use 7 so have not even considered putting those on. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:09 AM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? John, Here's my take on your questions, after having updated 2 of my computers to Windows 10 in the past week. 1 of these computers was a Windows 7 machine, and the other was an 8.1 machine. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. Answer for #s 1 2: You are right in what you are saying, but Internet Explorer does work very well with Windows 10, and so does Windows Live Mail, which I have used for years, and I have heard many saying that Outlook is working well too, so this should not be a hold back from updating. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? Answer: I say yes, there is a huge difference. First, if you have had the opportunity to use both Windows 7 and 8.1, then you know the differences there, and as well, you know what you liked and disliked about both of them, this being said, imagine an operating system that takes the best from each, and combines them into one major upgrade, then, Microsoft gives it to you for free! What's not to like? Secondly, I have not found very much in Windows 10 that just does not work. Everything that I have tried so far, except for Edge and the Mail app have worked well, even Cortana workkes well, and she always seems to give me the information that I ask for, or perform the task that I ask her to. . 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? Answer: I say yes again. I believe that Microsoft and/or Freedom Scientific, will do what ever it takes to make both of these applications work with JAWS in the near future. It is true, that right now, they are both in an unusable state, but this was mentioned up front, and the decisions to update have still been in record breaking numbers. Mostly, I have heard only good reviews of the program to this point, and yes, there have been some who have experienced some problems trying to install the update, but many times, I believe it has been because Microsoft's recommendations were not followed during the process. I have installed the thing onto 2 of my computers so far, one of which I am about to give uto someone else to use, and I am about to install Windows 10 onto my last computer, a Lenovo desktop which I recently purchased. So far, I have not experienced any problems with updating either of my computers, and the whole process takes only about 2 hours to perform. I used narrator during both of my installations to select the Typical installation option, and shortly after, my computers rebooted and JAWS began speaking again. Nothing was lost in the process, just as promised. Having used Windows 10 for a little while now, I don't think that I would want to go back to 7 or 8.1. Both are great operating systems, but both are lacking in some areas that I believe are made up for in Windows 10. At any rate, this is my opinion, and I believe it counts for something, if not to anyone but me. I say to you, Update man, you won't regret it. Mike mike@comcast.net -Original Message- From: John Justice Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:14 PM To: Jaws Users E-mail List Subject: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Don't count on it but you can find many of them on Bookshare.org. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Carolyn, Try your State Library or the BARD website for the books on the Office 2013 applications. I am willing to bet that they are available from one or both of these places. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I'm with you, Jason. I will be happier with Outlook, if I can find out how to enlarge the print size just a little and how to read a sender's e-mail address, as well as how to keep a sender's address. I called the library to see if they had a book on Outlook 2013, but not yet, and neither did American Printing House or National Braille Press. Best from, Carolyn Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct
On the voices I like the Tom Premium High voice. I am very hard of hearing and wear hearing aids. I find this voice very natural sounding and very easy to understand with my hearing loss. Just my two cents worth. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct Yes, it is totally safe to do so, in fact, I do not know where else you might get them from, I do not know if they are available from the publisher's web site or not. The voices that I personally like best are Samantha for a American English voice, and I believe Tom is the only American english male voice available. T his is only my opinion however. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Robin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct Is it SAFE ToDownLoad FreedomScientific's VocalizerDirect and/or FreedomScientific's VocalizerExpressive Voices on its WebSite? JustWonderin' Also, What are the MostCommonly Or ShouldISay MostPreferred Voices AsItPertainsTo JAWS14 JAWS15 JAWS16??? Thanx For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
You know, I asked about Outlook 2013; maybe I should ask about Office 2013. I know enough about Office 2010 to do fair in 2013, but Outlook sometimes is more trouble than ten puppies and a baby duck. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Carolyn, Try your State Library or the BARD website for the books on the Office 2013 applications. I am willing to bet that they are available from one or both of these places. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I'm with you, Jason. I will be happier with Outlook, if I can find out how to enlarge the print size just a little and how to read a sender's e-mail address, as well as how to keep a sender's address. I called the library to see if they had a book on Outlook 2013, but not yet, and neither did American Printing House or National Braille Press. Best from, Carolyn Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] using outlook 2013 with JAWS 16
Hi, How do you access your contacts in outlook 2013 with JAWS 16 on a windows 8.1 machine? thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vocalizer Voices: Expressive Direct
I have four voices on my jaws 16, windows seven computer. I disagree that the expressive voices are better. The voice that I use most is, Eloquence. I have the Ava, Tom and Samantha expressive voices. I find that the expressive voices miss pronounce many words that eloquence does not. Take the following statement, which is a thread on this list . The title of the thread is, WINDOWS 10, Is IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Eloquence reads this correctly While the expressive voices reads the word, it, as I T. So They say, Is, I T , Worth upgrading now? I don't know what voice that you are using to read this post so I don't know if I have explained it well enough for you to understand what I am saying. I will only say that I like the sound of the Ava voice better, But the Eloquence voice is more accurate and easier to understand so I use it most of the time.-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 8:22 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct I think the Expressive voices only work with JAWS 15 and above. I forget how far back the Direct voices go, but I think it might be 13. The Expressive voices are definitely better. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct I've found the Vocalizer Expressive voices to be more responsive. My view is that they are probably as good as Eloquence, at least the one I use, IMHO is! Perhaps some earlier JAWS versions won't take too kindly to them, whereas the Vocalizer Direct (being older and all that) may be better suited. -Original Message- From: Alex Stone Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct I'm not aware of any reason why it wouldn't be safe to download them. Personally, I think they're more trouble than they're worth. Cheers Alex On 12/08/2015 21:56, Robin wrote: Is it SAFE ToDownLoad FreedomScientific's VocalizerDirect and/or FreedomScientific's VocalizerExpressive Voices on its WebSite? JustWonderin' Also, What are the MostCommonly Or ShouldISay MostPreferred Voices AsItPertainsTo JAWS14 JAWS15 JAWS16??? Thanx For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] using outlook 2013 with JAWS 16
You hit Control Y, then C. If you want to start an e-mail, you go down to bcc: then hit Shift Tab until you get to the Contacts. You have to arrow through them and enter on each. I like to do multiples in bcc, but just one in the To field. Then when you get the names or name in there, you tab and tab and tab, until it finally says OK, then you tab to Subject - oh where oh where did Outlook Express go? Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 6:27 PM To: jaws-users-list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] using outlook 2013 with JAWS 16 Hi, How do you access your contacts in outlook 2013 with JAWS 16 on a windows 8.1 machine? thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade
Well guys, I update my 4th computer, and I need to say that now my opinion is very different. I am working on another Lenovo i7, 8GB, and one hybrid disk. I don't know for what reason, in this computer jaws and windows 10 are working very good. In my 3 first computers, windows 10 was working fine, but jaws was messing with me, so I downgrade to windows 8, and jaws stopped playing with me. But again, in this Lenovo, windows 10 is working very good, and jaws is working perfectly. Thanks for all for your advices through the list. Without all your advices, I would not be able to make it work. Thanks for all . -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade No, there is no speech on that window. You will need help with only this screen, as far as I have experienced so far. You can do an ALT+n, for the next button. You will need help to choose express settings. Then ALT+n, for the last next button. Wait for your system to come up talking on the windows 10 desktop. enjoy, I hope this helps... -Original Message- From: Kimsan Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade Interesting, when it got to that window where it said express settings, how did you get speech? I mean, I already updated, but just in case I upgrade my daughters comp to windows 10 that would be helpful to know. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade I just completed my third update to windows ten, this time on our w_8.1 laptop. I used the Microsoft media tool. I first reserved windows, this morning on our laptop. I then ran the F S windows tool for preparing for windows 10. Next I downloaded the media tool from Microsoft. I went to my download folder, and ran the media tool. I chose, update this computer, from the media tool. I had speech all the way through until it was done and loaded the windows 10 system. I tried narrator, but it would not see the next button at that time until windows 10 had been totally installed. I pressed the next button. I Chose express settings. I press the next button, and I waited until the desktop with windows 10 loaded. this installation was super smooth. I uninstalled and reinstalled Jaws, did the same with my Mcafee, all is good. I then customized the system and checked for new updates. an answer for another post about the windows.old folder. I think we have to wait the 30 days before we can totally remove the windows.old folder. Microsoft wants to give everyone the chance to go back to their previous version if they wish to go back after 30 days. I’m tired now, time for more coffee...ahahahhahahah Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade
Thanks jim. I thought about using my knfb reader ap for that window but when I was upgrading it was already late as it was and just picked my battles and facetimed someone lol. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade No, there is no speech on that window. You will need help with only this screen, as far as I have experienced so far. You can do an ALT+n, for the next button. You will need help to choose express settings. Then ALT+n, for the last next button. Wait for your system to come up talking on the windows 10 desktop. enjoy, I hope this helps... -Original Message- From: Kimsan Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade Interesting, when it got to that window where it said express settings, how did you get speech? I mean, I already updated, but just in case I upgrade my daughters comp to windows 10 that would be helpful to know. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade I just completed my third update to windows ten, this time on our w_8.1 laptop. I used the Microsoft media tool. I first reserved windows, this morning on our laptop. I then ran the F S windows tool for preparing for windows 10. Next I downloaded the media tool from Microsoft. I went to my download folder, and ran the media tool. I chose, update this computer, from the media tool. I had speech all the way through until it was done and loaded the windows 10 system. I tried narrator, but it would not see the next button at that time until windows 10 had been totally installed. I pressed the next button. I Chose express settings. I press the next button, and I waited until the desktop with windows 10 loaded. this installation was super smooth. I uninstalled and reinstalled Jaws, did the same with my Mcafee, all is good. I then customized the system and checked for new updates. an answer for another post about the windows.old folder. I think we have to wait the 30 days before we can totally remove the windows.old folder. Microsoft wants to give everyone the chance to go back to their previous version if they wish to go back after 30 days. I’m tired now, time for more coffee...ahahahhahahah Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct
Yes, it is safe. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct Is it SAFE ToDownLoad FreedomScientific's VocalizerDirect and/or FreedomScientific's VocalizerExpressive Voices on its WebSite? JustWonderin' Also, What are the MostCommonly Or ShouldISay MostPreferred Voices AsItPertainsTo JAWS14 JAWS15 JAWS16??? Thanx For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down
I hit Alt F 4 until it tells me Shut Down. Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 7:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Aren't there shutdown exicutables on the jaws-users site? For me, I press the start menu, tab to the power button option, press spacebar, a context menu pops up and I arrow to shut down. I do that after I remembered I have a shortcut to shutdown on the taskbar and I just needed to press windows key 8 lol... -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Another way of shutting down is to open the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key, as always, then right arrow to the right column, then arrow up to the Power button, and press the space bar, and the options to shutdown, restart, etc will be displayed. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 6:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down what you do is select the desktop with ctrl+m until you hear desktop then one of your icons unselected then just press alt+F4 and you will get the shut down options windows 10 doesn't have a shut down sound so when your screen is blank it's powered off I believe. -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Hieahow do I force a full shut down on my laptop, simply hitting altogether fbled will just close what I'm doing, but not bringing the shut down dialog. When I hit the power button in the start menu, it will just put it into sleep. How do I force my laptop to shut down what I'm doing? I dont want rforce it by holding the power button for 10 seconds, because it would force the update to stop to. I'm using windows 10. My windows 7 and earlier never had this problem. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade
where do you get the fs tool for preparing for windows 10 I upgraded my first desktop without it and had little problems, is it necessary? -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade I just completed my third update to windows ten, this time on our w_8.1 laptop. I used the Microsoft media tool. I first reserved windows, this morning on our laptop. I then ran the F S windows tool for preparing for windows 10. Next I downloaded the media tool from Microsoft. I went to my download folder, and ran the media tool. I chose, update this computer, from the media tool. I had speech all the way through until it was done and loaded the windows 10 system. I tried narrator, but it would not see the next button at that time until windows 10 had been totally installed. I pressed the next button. I Chose express settings. I press the next button, and I waited until the desktop with windows 10 loaded. this installation was super smooth. I uninstalled and reinstalled Jaws, did the same with my Mcafee, all is good. I then customized the system and checked for new updates. an answer for another post about the windows.old folder. I think we have to wait the 30 days before we can totally remove the windows.old folder. Microsoft wants to give everyone the chance to go back to their previous version if they wish to go back after 30 days. I’m tired now, time for more coffee...ahahahhahahah Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news
check some of that stuff out using your device it's self. If this process isn't working for you, then backup via the cloud - Original Message - From: Rose Combs To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news Personally I don't see any difference in the latest iTunes update, it is still clunky and so far as I can tell there is no way into the app store to perform a search. I still have to press way too many tabs, and F6 for me rotates between about three different things, none of which I generally want to see. I use it mostly for backups and until 12 for searches. I still think it could be improved with keystrokes to get you out of music and into what one really wants to see, in my case, battery status when phone is plugged in, ability to know if there are updates, info on last backup and ability to perform them, and search like we had in 11 that went directly to the app store and where we could type in a phrase and see reasonable results. In other words, I want my side bar and my apps that show up in a list ... but that is too much to ask, the keep making accessibility worse and more worse in my humble opinion. Apple Music also is still as confusing as ever, especially the FOR YOU tab. Makes absolutely no sense and it never seem to remain after you attempt to select what you like or love and never deletes what you do not like. Come on Apple, stop breaking things, or leave a help guide to explain things. It is 110 degrees here, I am already too hot. Yes, phone is updated also. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news Thanks for this info. - Original Message - From: jim To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:27 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news I want to thank apple for fixing iTunes. the extra edit fields are gone between the artist list, albums, and song list. just tab one time to each of them. the f-6 key is fixed as well. definitely time for more coffee!!! Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news
Personally I don't see any difference in the latest iTunes update, it is still clunky and so far as I can tell there is no way into the app store to perform a search. I still have to press way too many tabs, and F6 for me rotates between about three different things, none of which I generally want to see. I use it mostly for backups and until 12 for searches. I still think it could be improved with keystrokes to get you out of music and into what one really wants to see, in my case, battery status when phone is plugged in, ability to know if there are updates, info on last backup and ability to perform them, and search like we had in 11 that went directly to the app store and where we could type in a phrase and see reasonable results. In other words, I want my side bar and my apps that show up in a list ... but that is too much to ask, the keep making accessibility worse and more worse in my humble opinion. Apple Music also is still as confusing as ever, especially the FOR YOU tab. Makes absolutely no sense and it never seem to remain after you attempt to select what you like or love and never deletes what you do not like. Come on Apple, stop breaking things, or leave a help guide to explain things. It is 110 degrees here, I am already too hot. Yes, phone is updated also. Rose Combs roseco...@q.com A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory! -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Trish Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 2:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news Thanks for this info. - Original Message - From: jim To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:27 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news I want to thank apple for fixing iTunes. the extra edit fields are gone between the artist list, albums, and song list. just tab one time to each of them. the f-6 key is fixed as well. definitely time for more coffee!!! Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down
Aren't there shutdown exicutables on the jaws-users site? For me, I press the start menu, tab to the power button option, press spacebar, a context menu pops up and I arrow to shut down. I do that after I remembered I have a shortcut to shutdown on the taskbar and I just needed to press windows key 8 lol... -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Michael Boyd Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:31 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Another way of shutting down is to open the start menu by pressing the Windows logo key, as always, then right arrow to the right column, then arrow up to the Power button, and press the space bar, and the options to shutdown, restart, etc will be displayed. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 6:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down what you do is select the desktop with ctrl+m until you hear desktop then one of your icons unselected then just press alt+F4 and you will get the shut down options windows 10 doesn't have a shut down sound so when your screen is blank it's powered off I believe. -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 doesn't shut down Hieahow do I force a full shut down on my laptop, simply hitting altogether fbled will just close what I'm doing, but not bringing the shut down dialog. When I hit the power button in the start menu, it will just put it into sleep. How do I force my laptop to shut down what I'm doing? I dont want rforce it by holding the power button for 10 seconds, because it would force the update to stop to. I'm using windows 10. My windows 7 and earlier never had this problem. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Vocalizer Voices: Expressive Direct
That's a problem with either the particular voice you're using or the original message subject, I'd say. Also, do bear in mind that people don't always type subject lines correctly, doing capitalization or misspelling errors. It could be written as IT (both letters capitalized, and, obviously, depending on it or IT that has a different meaning). The Expressive voice I use is the Irish one, Moira. Also, I was comparing the responsiveness of Vocalizer Expressive with that of Vocalizer Direct, which is what the original question was asking about. I remarked that the Vocalizer Expressive's responsiveness is, IMO, as good as that of Eloquence. I did not comment on nor compare the pronunciation aspects. Quote: (It is not IT.) Unquote. -Original Message- From: LeDon Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 11:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vocalizer Voices: Expressive Direct I have four voices on my jaws 16, windows seven computer. I disagree that the expressive voices are better. The voice that I use most is, Eloquence. I have the Ava, Tom and Samantha expressive voices. I find that the expressive voices miss pronounce many words that eloquence does not. Take the following statement, which is a thread on this list . The title of the thread is, WINDOWS 10, Is IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Eloquence reads this correctly While the expressive voices reads the word, it, as I T. So They say, Is, I T , Worth upgrading now? I don't know what voice that you are using to read this post so I don't know if I have explained it well enough for you to understand what I am saying. I will only say that I like the sound of the Ava voice better, But the Eloquence voice is more accurate and easier to understand so I use it most of the time.-Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Londa Peterson Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 8:22 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct I think the Expressive voices only work with JAWS 15 and above. I forget how far back the Direct voices go, but I think it might be 13. The Expressive voices are definitely better. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct I've found the Vocalizer Expressive voices to be more responsive. My view is that they are probably as good as Eloquence, at least the one I use, IMHO is! Perhaps some earlier JAWS versions won't take too kindly to them, whereas the Vocalizer Direct (being older and all that) may be better suited. -Original Message- From: Alex Stone Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 11:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VocalizerVoices: Expressive Direct I'm not aware of any reason why it wouldn't be safe to download them. Personally, I think they're more trouble than they're worth. Cheers Alex On 12/08/2015 21:56, Robin wrote: Is it SAFE ToDownLoad FreedomScientific's VocalizerDirect and/or FreedomScientific's VocalizerExpressive Voices on its WebSite? JustWonderin' Also, What are the MostCommonly Or ShouldISay MostPreferred Voices AsItPertainsTo JAWS14 JAWS15 JAWS16??? Thanx For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] names not being recognized after being filled in, in the BCC field in WLM
Hi folks, When composing a new email in WLM, I start by entering the name of the recipient in the “To” field and then, after filling in multiple names in the BCC field and pressing control+enter to send the email, it brings up the , “check names box”. Then, one by one, it says “no match can be found for any of the names that I just put in. It goes on to say, “ check the contact list to make sure that the information is correct and try again. I have checked every single name and email address in my list and they are all correct in their entirety. What is more odd, is that if I only enter one name at a time in the BCC field, it recognizes it fine and even repeats the name and email address! Please, any suggestions or feedback would help a great deal. Thanks Marie J For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade
I just completed my third update to windows ten, this time on our w_8.1 laptop. I used the Microsoft media tool. I first reserved windows, this morning on our laptop. I then ran the F S windows tool for preparing for windows 10. Next I downloaded the media tool from Microsoft. I went to my download folder, and ran the media tool. I chose, update this computer, from the media tool. I had speech all the way through until it was done and loaded the windows 10 system. I tried narrator, but it would not see the next button at that time until windows 10 had been totally installed. I pressed the next button. I Chose express settings. I press the next button, and I waited until the desktop with windows 10 loaded. this installation was super smooth. I uninstalled and reinstalled Jaws, did the same with my Mcafee, all is good. I then customized the system and checked for new updates. an answer for another post about the windows.old folder. I think we have to wait the 30 days before we can totally remove the windows.old folder. Microsoft wants to give everyone the chance to go back to their previous version if they wish to go back after 30 days. I’m tired now, time for more coffee...ahahahhahahah Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade
Interesting, when it got to that window where it said express settings, how did you get speech? I mean, I already updated, but just in case I upgrade my daughters comp to windows 10 that would be helpful to know. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade I just completed my third update to windows ten, this time on our w_8.1 laptop. I used the Microsoft media tool. I first reserved windows, this morning on our laptop. I then ran the F S windows tool for preparing for windows 10. Next I downloaded the media tool from Microsoft. I went to my download folder, and ran the media tool. I chose, update this computer, from the media tool. I had speech all the way through until it was done and loaded the windows 10 system. I tried narrator, but it would not see the next button at that time until windows 10 had been totally installed. I pressed the next button. I Chose express settings. I press the next button, and I waited until the desktop with windows 10 loaded. this installation was super smooth. I uninstalled and reinstalled Jaws, did the same with my Mcafee, all is good. I then customized the system and checked for new updates. an answer for another post about the windows.old folder. I think we have to wait the 30 days before we can totally remove the windows.old folder. Microsoft wants to give everyone the chance to go back to their previous version if they wish to go back after 30 days. I’m tired now, time for more coffee...ahahahhahahah Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news
Thanks for this info. - Original Message - From: jim To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 3:27 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news I want to thank apple for fixing iTunes. the extra edit fields are gone between the artist list, albums, and song list. just tab one time to each of them. the f-6 key is fixed as well. definitely time for more coffee!!! Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] iTunes latest 12.225 update, good news
I want to thank apple for fixing iTunes. the extra edit fields are gone between the artist list, albums, and song list. just tab one time to each of them. the f-6 key is fixed as well. definitely time for more coffee!!! Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade
No, there is no speech on that window. You will need help with only this screen, as far as I have experienced so far. You can do an ALT+n, for the next button. You will need help to choose express settings. Then ALT+n, for the last next button. Wait for your system to come up talking on the windows 10 desktop. enjoy, I hope this helps... -Original Message- From: Kimsan Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade Interesting, when it got to that window where it said express settings, how did you get speech? I mean, I already updated, but just in case I upgrade my daughters comp to windows 10 that would be helpful to know. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade I just completed my third update to windows ten, this time on our w_8.1 laptop. I used the Microsoft media tool. I first reserved windows, this morning on our laptop. I then ran the F S windows tool for preparing for windows 10. Next I downloaded the media tool from Microsoft. I went to my download folder, and ran the media tool. I chose, update this computer, from the media tool. I had speech all the way through until it was done and loaded the windows 10 system. I tried narrator, but it would not see the next button at that time until windows 10 had been totally installed. I pressed the next button. I Chose express settings. I press the next button, and I waited until the desktop with windows 10 loaded. this installation was super smooth. I uninstalled and reinstalled Jaws, did the same with my Mcafee, all is good. I then customized the system and checked for new updates. an answer for another post about the windows.old folder. I think we have to wait the 30 days before we can totally remove the windows.old folder. Microsoft wants to give everyone the chance to go back to their previous version if they wish to go back after 30 days. I’m tired now, time for more coffee...ahahahhahahah Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade
guys, upgrade through windows update and you'll get narrator as soon as the windows 10 setup screen launches. I use bootcamp on my late 2012 iMac, intel core i5, 1 TB hard rive, 8 GB RAM. it worked fine. restarted four times, and I got speech. not right away, their was notable delay from when I pressed windows+enter, to when windows 10 setup was announced. waiting for official bootcamp drivers so my volume controls work, other than that, when without a hitch; you can get rid of the windows.old folder by doing a disk cleanup and scrolling down to delete operating system files.. I'll keep it because when I called the microsoft disability answer desk and asked about windows 10 ultimate, they said it wasn't hurt yet, implying that it will come out in the future. so, is the downgrade process just as smooth and the upgrade process? Daniel On 8/14/15, Pablo Morales pablocmd2...@gmail.com wrote: Well guys, I update my 4th computer, and I need to say that now my opinion is very different. I am working on another Lenovo i7, 8GB, and one hybrid disk. I don't know for what reason, in this computer jaws and windows 10 are working very good. In my 3 first computers, windows 10 was working fine, but jaws was messing with me, so I downgrade to windows 8, and jaws stopped playing with me. But again, in this Lenovo, windows 10 is working very good, and jaws is working perfectly. Thanks for all for your advices through the list. Without all your advices, I would not be able to make it work. Thanks for all . -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade No, there is no speech on that window. You will need help with only this screen, as far as I have experienced so far. You can do an ALT+n, for the next button. You will need help to choose express settings. Then ALT+n, for the last next button. Wait for your system to come up talking on the windows 10 desktop. enjoy, I hope this helps... -Original Message- From: Kimsan Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 4:23 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade Interesting, when it got to that window where it said express settings, how did you get speech? I mean, I already updated, but just in case I upgrade my daughters comp to windows 10 that would be helpful to know. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Successful windows 10 upgrade I just completed my third update to windows ten, this time on our w_8.1 laptop. I used the Microsoft media tool. I first reserved windows, this morning on our laptop. I then ran the F S windows tool for preparing for windows 10. Next I downloaded the media tool from Microsoft. I went to my download folder, and ran the media tool. I chose, update this computer, from the media tool. I had speech all the way through until it was done and loaded the windows 10 system. I tried narrator, but it would not see the next button at that time until windows 10 had been totally installed. I pressed the next button. I Chose express settings. I press the next button, and I waited until the desktop with windows 10 loaded. this installation was super smooth. I uninstalled and reinstalled Jaws, did the same with my Mcafee, all is good. I then customized the system and checked for new updates. an answer for another post about the windows.old folder. I think we have to wait the 30 days before we can totally remove the windows.old folder. Microsoft wants to give everyone the chance to go back to their previous version if they wish to go back after 30 days. I’m tired now, time for more coffee...ahahahhahahah Jim A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] reaching tabs on the site woodpeck.com
On this site, there are tabs (I assume at the top of the page) where you can checkout for your order. I spent over an hour last night trying to navigate to the checkout tab. I don't know what I did to actually reach the checkout tab. I had tried F6 and CTRL+Tab without success. If anyone has a solution, I would be ever greatful for the tip. I suppose that someway with scripts might be able to navigate to the tabs. Gary Patterson For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW?
Honestly the only thing that is keeping me from upgrading this laptop that I am on now, is the fact that I can no longer use the shift down arrow to select a group of messages in my email. -- From: Michael Boyd mike@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 12:35 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? Carolyn, Try your State Library or the BARD website for the books on the Office 2013 applications. I am willing to bet that they are available from one or both of these places. Mike mike@outlook.com -Original Message- From: Carolyn Arnold Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I'm with you, Jason. I will be happier with Outlook, if I can find out how to enlarge the print size just a little and how to read a sender's e-mail address, as well as how to keep a sender's address. I called the library to see if they had a book on Outlook 2013, but not yet, and neither did American Printing House or National Braille Press. Best from, Carolyn Best from, Carolyn -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason Tomlinson Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I have experienced none of these issues you all are talking about. everything works good here. and you can control your updates process. at least from what I have seen. in my oppinion everything works great. I give win10 an a+ jason On 8/12/2015 18:12, Holger Fiallo wrote: well the updates you can not control I think. I am waiting for next Spring to get it. By them jaws 17 be better and 10 will be more stable. All good things come to those who wait. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 5:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WINDOWS 10, IS IT WORTH UPGRADING NOW? I've spent a month with win 10, starting with a dev copy and then a fully copy on my laptop, and I'm going back to, and staying with windows 7. Of all the things I disliked, having no control of updates was at the top of the list, closely followed by Edge, and also the lack of decent accessibility options for low vision users. I imagine JAWS will catch up win 10, but it already works just fine with Win 7. Glen *** On 13-Aug-15 8:14 am, John Justice wrote: I feel as if I'm the only person in the room who sees the elephant. 1.We know that Jaws doesn't work with the Edge browser or with the e-mail client at this time. 2. There is a solution since Internet Explorer is also an option with Windows 10 and apparently, Windows Live Mail and Outlook do work with the new operating system. 3. Is there enough of a difference between Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 to make the change worth the transition? 4. Will Jaws be able to work with Edge and the e-mail client later on? UP till now, Microsoft has been very supportive where screen readers are concerned. Why then, is part of Windows 10 not accessible with Jaws? Or, is it too early to load 10? John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4401/10423 - Release Date: 08/12/15 Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
