Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft office2016

[TheHangMan]

Hi,
I am using office 2013, J16 and I do not have that problem.I been trying to 
follow this tread.
Mines reads everything, Too field from, and reply.

I believe your problem is in your alt menu using outlook,
Give MSA a buzz,

Have a good day,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft office2016

That's a shame as it used to work flawlessly in version 2010 of office (sad 
face).
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016

I had noticed this issue in 2013 and when I was taking an FS webinar on Word 
Dan Clark noted it to the class that JAWS did not read in the Adressee or 
Return Address boxes and blamed it on Microsoft.
I use that function a good bit and it for sure is passed onto 2016.
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft 
office2016

Hi,
So are you saying that this is an issue with Microsoft's design not screen
reader functionality then?
As System Access performs flawlessly in this dialog currently. I'm just
curious then if it is a Microsoft short coming then why it is working better
in this instance than Jaws is.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Robyn,
I am using Win 7 Pro, with JAWS 17, and Office 2016.
I have that issue and also had the same in 2013.
It is just the way Bill & his boys made those fields.
The only way to correct is highlight & delete it all & retype or just start
again with the typo corrected FROWN
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft
office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] commenting on windows defender.

[Deon Lyons]

By default, Windows Defender offers real time anti virus and malware 
protection, as well as full scanning capabilities for systems operating on 
Windows 8, 8.1 and Windows 10.


dp


-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] commenting onwindows defender.

Hey Keven,.
So are you saying we don't need a additional anti-virus program?
Are you saying our systems should be safe by just using the built in
deventer by itself?
Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] commenting onwindows defender.

when defender detects a threat it popps up a message to clean your computer,
it is a feature of defenderto clean the threats out!
I've experienced windows 10 defender before installing vipre.  I only
installed vipre because I had bought it prior to win 10 and I didn't want to
waste the money!

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 2:20 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] commenting onwindows defender.

What did you clean your computer with?  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 1:27 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] commenting onwindows defender.

Hellot to my fellow subscribers.
When I fired up my pc for the first time this morning like I do every
morning I found the following message.
I was told to clean my pc.
So Windows Defender was on the job.
I cleaned my machine and I can’t remember what it told me.
But I also did a thorough scan of my pc and it didn’t find anything else
wrong with my new system.
So I like the build in windows defender.
So that is my feedback for today.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Begging your pardon I do not understand what you're asserting.  I don't use 
outlook as my email program. That which I was speaking about is happening 
inside of Microsoft Word when one is readying to print an addressed 
envelope. I hope that clarifies.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFWreading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


Hi,
I am using office 2013, J16 and I do not have that problem.I been trying to 
follow this tread.

Mines reads everything, Too field from, and reply.

I believe your problem is in your alt menu using outlook,
Give MSA a buzz,

Have a good day,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


That's a shame as it used to work flawlessly in version 2010 of office (sad
face).
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft
office2016

I had noticed this issue in 2013 and when I was taking an FS webinar on Word
Dan Clark noted it to the class that JAWS did not read in the Adressee or
Return Address boxes and blamed it on Microsoft.
I use that function a good bit and it for sure is passed onto 2016.
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Hi,
So are you saying that this is an issue with Microsoft's design not screen
reader functionality then?
As System Access performs flawlessly in this dialog currently. I'm just
curious then if it is a Microsoft short coming then why it is working better
in this instance than Jaws is.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Robyn,
I am using Win 7 Pro, with JAWS 17, and Office 2016.
I have that issue and also had the same in 2013.
It is just the way Bill & his boys made those fields.
The only way to correct is highlight & delete it all & retype or just start
again with the typo corrected FROWN
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft
office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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[JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

[David Bailes]

I've written a guide to File Explorer on Windows 10 for Jaws users, and it's 
available here:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-10-Guide.html

Any feedback is welcome,
David.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Just to clarify, I think the keyboard shortcut to switch between keyboards is 
actually the left Control and Shitft keys.  The left Alt and Shift keys don't 
work.


From:   "Bissett, Tom" 
To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" 
Date:   2015/12/08 5:34 PM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Yes I have but it made no difference.  Interesting it just started speaking 
French now.  

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16 and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?

-Original Message-
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have not 
tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it would 
be a cure.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.

-Original Message-
>From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and lowers 
pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence is 
something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I go 
back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound like 
smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except for 
some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but it 
never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy after 
reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book also 
drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the cadence is 
not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less stable,.  I 
used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages more or less 
and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by the constant 
higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change pitch in the 
middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that I 
could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but I 
don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as I 
recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent me 
back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com 
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens 
with other applications.  

[JAWS-Users] Jaws startup options

[T. Civitello]

I think  the problem of why Jaws would not start when I started the computer 
may have been solved.  Seems as though the computer never shut down when I 
clicked the shutdown button. I am sure you have  all heard the message about 
one program needs to be shut down when you shut down your computer. That 
program of course is Jaws and it is accompanied by a message on the screen 
like: One program remains to be shut down, “Jaws” Do you want to shut down any 
way? Press OK to force shutdown.  In my case not being able to see this, my 
computer was in some kind of standby. Last night a friend clicked that OK 
button and this morning when I started the computer Jaws came up talking.  Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

[Londa Peterson]

 You're not alone in this trouble. Unfortunately, I don't yet know how to
fix it. I have a client with this very problem. I suggested that he call
Microsoft Accessibility. I'll report back when I find out what happened. If
you call first, please report back so that we know how it got fixed.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

When I start outlook it says its running in safe mode.  How do you get it
out of safe mode.

 

I'm using JFW 17 on win 7.

 

Step by step instructions would be appreciated.

 

Pam Mahuika

South Dunedin

Otago 

New Zealand

Skype:  pam mahuika

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Thanks for the tip, after your suggestion, I decided to compare my work
desktop machine with my work laptop machine, as my laptop did not have
this issue, and I noticed that the keyboard settings were not the same. 
So I changed my keyboards on my desktop to match those on my laptop and
voilà, problem solved.

Thanks for the suggestion, this issue was bugging the hell out of me
for quite a while.


From:   "Flor Lynch" 
To: 
Date:   2015/12/08 5:19 PM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16
and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had
the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar
installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?

-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I
have 
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or
whether it 
would be a cure.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On 
>Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It
can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if
in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly
enough.

-Original Message-
>From: Rose Combs
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my
language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday
use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and

lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the
cadence 
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices
but I 
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from
the 
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also
sound 
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine
except 
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000
but 
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me
crazy 
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open
Book 
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the

cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems
less 
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288
pages 
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed
by 
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could
change 
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be
frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a
high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16,
that 
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the
case, but 
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha
which as 
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been
updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any
better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it
would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them
sent 
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com 
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the

memory!


-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]

>On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem.
(Vocalizer 
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
>From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I
find 
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it
happens 
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no
one 
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original 

Re: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

[jim]

Hi David,
Thanks, Very nice work.
I know personally how much time you spent making this guide.
Thanks very much for helping all of the Jaws users in learning w-10.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Bailes

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 8:43 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

I've written a guide to File Explorer on Windows 10 for Jaws users, and it's 
available here:

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-10-Guide.html

Any feedback is welcome,
David.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

[Russ Breitenstein]

David,
Great job! You obviously put a lot of work into this guide.

Thanks for sharing your work,
Russ


-Original Message- 
From: David Bailes

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 8:43 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

I've written a guide to File Explorer on Windows 10 for Jaws users, and it's 
available here:

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-10-Guide.html

Any feedback is welcome,
David.

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[JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?

[joanne]

I received instructions on how to label links or buttons using insert f and 
going down to prompt/create.  But can edit fields be relabeled?  I am checking 
out a Windows 10 machine and the email fields say rich edit control instead of 
to, from, etc.  And of course on the Web the edit fields on some sites are not 
announced.  Is there a fix for this?  Using both 16 and 17, and both versions 
read these email edit fields the same way.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] commenting onwindows defender.

[Ron Kolesar]

Well, it must have been a message from windows defender.
I simply just smacked enter or you probably could smack the spacebar on the 
message and it did it's thing.
Then after it was completed I rana thorough scan and nothing else was found 
on my PC.

Hope that answers your questions.

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:20 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] commenting onwindows defender.

What did you clean your computer with?  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 1:27 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] commenting onwindows defender.

Hellot to my fellow subscribers.
When I fired up my pc for the first time this morning like I do every
morning I found the following message.
I was told to clean my pc.
So Windows Defender was on the job.
I cleaned my machine and I can’t remember what it told me.
But I also did a thorough scan of my pc and it didn’t find anything else
wrong with my new system.
So I like the build in windows defender.
So that is my feedback for today.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and Logos 3

[rhs]

It is pretty clunky but many things are accessable with Windows 7 and Logos
3.  I bought the upgrade to Logos 4 but never used it because it was
unusable.

Sometimes I select a portion of a commentary and copy it to MS Word.  I can
then read the footnotes, etc.  I don't do much of anything with original
languages except search the Englishmen's Concordance from the NASB Bible.

I turn Screen Echo to all and use the Jaws cursor for most things.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and Logos 3

I'm surprised your using Logos 3 with Windows 7. They encouraged me to
upgrade to Logos 4 after moving fromXP to 7. Logos 4 was never accessible
and I don't have it on my computer anymore now that I lost my sight for all
time. It was a shame really as I built that library up from the Original
language Collection through Logos 4 Platinum edition and a whole lot of
extras. I had close to 3000 resources in my library.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of r...@q.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 6:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 and Logos 3

Hi,

I currently use Logos 3 with Windows 7.  Does anyone know if Logos 3 will
work with Windows 10?

Thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

[Reed Poynter]

Hello,

This is caused by a bad update from Windows Update.  See this news article
which points to instructions about how to fix it.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3013219/microsoft-windows/microsoft-pulls-b
otched-patch-kb-3114409-that-triggered-problems-with-outlook-2010.html

The article says,
Microsoft's Patch Tuesday update KB 3114409, intended to help admins keep
Outlook 2010 from starting in safe mode, has in fact done just the opposite.
Many Outlook 2010 customers report that installing KB 3114409 forces Outlook
to start in safe mode.

As of early Wednesday morning, the patch has been pulled, but if you're
experiencing odd problems with Outlook 2010 -- it opens in safe mode only
(always
opens maximized and has no sounds, no reading pane, or other view settings
that stick), has broken templates, and much more -- you should look at the 
KB 3114409 article

So, you have to uninstall this update.  The news article has a link pointing
to instructions.
 
Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: December-09-15 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

 You're not alone in this trouble. Unfortunately, I don't yet know how to
fix it. I have a client with this very problem. I suggested that he call
Microsoft Accessibility. I'll report back when I find out what happened. If
you call first, please report back so that we know how it got fixed.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

When I start outlook it says its running in safe mode.  How do you get it
out of safe mode.

 

I'm using JFW 17 on win 7.

 

Step by step instructions would be appreciated.

 

Pam Mahuika

South Dunedin

Otago 

New Zealand

Skype:  pam mahuika

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?

[joanne]

Thank you for suggesting I look into columns view.  This did fix the order 
much better.  But what happens is when opening a new message all the form 
fields say rich edit control instead of saying the to, CC and subject fields 
for composition of an email.  I didn't know if this could be erased and new 
labels put in so it would say what the edit fields said before jaws 10.


Thanks for any ideas.

Joanne
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?



Hi Joanne,

If you're running Outlook Express or Windows Mail have you went into the
View Menu / Columns, & checked / unchecked which fields you want spoken?
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: joanne

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 8:22 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?


I received instructions on how to label links or buttons using insert f 
and

going down to prompt/create.  But can edit fields be relabeled?  I am
checking out a Windows 10 machine and the email fields say rich edit 
control
instead of to, from, etc.  And of course on the Web the edit fields on 
some

sites are not announced.  Is there a fix for this?  Using both 16 and 17,
and both versions read these email edit fields the same way.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?

[Mike B]

Hi Joanne,

If you're running Outlook Express or Windows Mail have you went into the 
View Menu / Columns, & checked / unchecked which fields you want spoken?
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: joanne
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 8:22 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?


I received instructions on how to label links or buttons using insert f and 
going down to prompt/create.  But can edit fields be relabeled?  I am 
checking out a Windows 10 machine and the email fields say rich edit control 
instead of to, from, etc.  And of course on the Web the edit fields on some 
sites are not announced.  Is there a fix for this?  Using both 16 and 17, 
and both versions read these email edit fields the same way.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?

[Mike B]

Hi Joanne,

Do you have scripts copied / pasted into the ENU folders of the Jaws 
versions you're using?  If so, look in Manage Applications Settings to see 
if the scripts for your email client are checked / running.  I'm probably 
using the wrong computer lingo but, maybe it'll help.  To get to the Manage 
Application Settingsdo the following:
1. Open Jaws Options with, Insert + J, if you run Jaws from the system tray.
2. Press enter on, Options.
3. Arrow up to, Manage Application Settings..., & press enter.  You will now 
be in a list of items that are either checked or unchecked so, arrow down 
the list to see if Windows Mail or Outlook Express is checked.  If not, 
press the spacebar to check it, & tab to Okay & press enter.  Now see if 
this helps any.
Take care.
Mike

- Original Message - 
From: joanne
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?


Thank you for suggesting I look into columns view.  This did fix the order
much better.  But what happens is when opening a new message all the form
fields say rich edit control instead of saying the to, CC and subject fields
for composition of an email.  I didn't know if this could be erased and new
labels put in so it would say what the edit fields said before jaws 10.

Thanks for any ideas.

Joanne
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?


> Hi Joanne,
>
> If you're running Outlook Express or Windows Mail have you went into the
> View Menu / Columns, & checked / unchecked which fields you want spoken?
> Take care.
> Mike
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: joanne
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 8:22 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] can form fields--edit fields--be labeled?
>
>
> I received instructions on how to label links or buttons using insert f
> and
> going down to prompt/create.  But can edit fields be relabeled?  I am
> checking out a Windows 10 machine and the email fields say rich edit
> control
> instead of to, from, etc.  And of course on the Web the edit fields on
> some
> sites are not announced.  Is there a fix for this?  Using both 16 and 17,
> and both versions read these email edit fields the same way.
>
> Joanne
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

[John Vernaleken`]

Thanks Reed,
The article you referenced had the information needed to uninstall
KB3114409.  I was able to uninstall the problem update and Outlook is
working again without being in Safe Mode.

Thanks again
John


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 1:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

Hello,

This is caused by a bad update from Windows Update.  See this news article
which points to instructions about how to fix it.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3013219/microsoft-windows/microsoft-pulls-b
otched-patch-kb-3114409-that-triggered-problems-with-outlook-2010.html

The article says,
Microsoft's Patch Tuesday update KB 3114409, intended to help admins keep
Outlook 2010 from starting in safe mode, has in fact done just the opposite.
Many Outlook 2010 customers report that installing KB 3114409 forces Outlook
to start in safe mode.

As of early Wednesday morning, the patch has been pulled, but if you're
experiencing odd problems with Outlook 2010 -- it opens in safe mode only
(always opens maximized and has no sounds, no reading pane, or other view
settings that stick), has broken templates, and much more -- you should look
at the KB 3114409 article

So, you have to uninstall this update.  The news article has a link pointing
to instructions.
 
Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: December-09-15 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

 You're not alone in this trouble. Unfortunately, I don't yet know how to
fix it. I have a client with this very problem. I suggested that he call
Microsoft Accessibility. I'll report back when I find out what happened. If
you call first, please report back so that we know how it got fixed.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

When I start outlook it says its running in safe mode.  How do you get it
out of safe mode.

 

I'm using JFW 17 on win 7.

 

Step by step instructions would be appreciated.

 

Pam Mahuika

South Dunedin

Otago 

New Zealand

Skype:  pam mahuika

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

[Pinky]

Hi Group,
When you go into the viewed installed update I had over 400. Do you just put
the KB3114409 in the search box and if it is in the installed update will it
show up? Could someone tell me how you do a search in the view installed
update to make sure I did it correctly. Any help on this would be
appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

Hello,

This is caused by a bad update from Windows Update.  See this news article
which points to instructions about how to fix it.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3013219/microsoft-windows/microsoft-pulls-b
otched-patch-kb-3114409-that-triggered-problems-with-outlook-2010.html

The article says,
Microsoft's Patch Tuesday update KB 3114409, intended to help admins keep
Outlook 2010 from starting in safe mode, has in fact done just the opposite.
Many Outlook 2010 customers report that installing KB 3114409 forces Outlook
to start in safe mode.

As of early Wednesday morning, the patch has been pulled, but if you're
experiencing odd problems with Outlook 2010 -- it opens in safe mode only
(always opens maximized and has no sounds, no reading pane, or other view
settings that stick), has broken templates, and much more -- you should look
at the KB 3114409 article

So, you have to uninstall this update.  The news article has a link pointing
to instructions.
 
Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: December-09-15 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

 You're not alone in this trouble. Unfortunately, I don't yet know how to
fix it. I have a client with this very problem. I suggested that he call
Microsoft Accessibility. I'll report back when I find out what happened. If
you call first, please report back so that we know how it got fixed.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

When I start outlook it says its running in safe mode.  How do you get it
out of safe mode.

 

I'm using JFW 17 on win 7.

 

Step by step instructions would be appreciated.

 

Pam Mahuika

South Dunedin

Otago 

New Zealand

Skype:  pam mahuika

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

[Reed Poynter]

Hi,

That's correct.  Then, hit the spacebar to select it, hit the applications
key and uninstall it.

Reed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pinky
Sent: December-09-15 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

Hi Group,
When you go into the viewed installed update I had over 400. Do you just put
the KB3114409 in the search box and if it is in the installed update will it
show up? Could someone tell me how you do a search in the view installed
update to make sure I did it correctly. Any help on this would be
appreciated.

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Reed Poynter
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

Hello,

This is caused by a bad update from Windows Update.  See this news article
which points to instructions about how to fix it.
http://www.infoworld.com/article/3013219/microsoft-windows/microsoft-pulls-b
otched-patch-kb-3114409-that-triggered-problems-with-outlook-2010.html

The article says,
Microsoft's Patch Tuesday update KB 3114409, intended to help admins keep
Outlook 2010 from starting in safe mode, has in fact done just the opposite.
Many Outlook 2010 customers report that installing KB 3114409 forces Outlook
to start in safe mode.

As of early Wednesday morning, the patch has been pulled, but if you're
experiencing odd problems with Outlook 2010 -- it opens in safe mode only
(always opens maximized and has no sounds, no reading pane, or other view
settings that stick), has broken templates, and much more -- you should look
at the KB 3114409 article

So, you have to uninstall this update.  The news article has a link pointing
to instructions.
 
Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Londa Peterson
Sent: December-09-15 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

 You're not alone in this trouble. Unfortunately, I don't yet know how to
fix it. I have a client with this very problem. I suggested that he call
Microsoft Accessibility. I'll report back when I find out what happened. If
you call first, please report back so that we know how it got fixed.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 In Safe Mode

When I start outlook it says its running in safe mode.  How do you get it
out of safe mode.

 

I'm using JFW 17 on win 7.

 

Step by step instructions would be appreciated.

 

Pam Mahuika

South Dunedin

Otago 

New Zealand

Skype:  pam mahuika

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

[David Moore]

Hi David,
I am reading your web site where you put your guide on win10 and file 
explorer. You did a very good job, and many will benefit from this. I know 
how much time you had to put into that. Thank you so much and may more 
people like you reach the blind community about using win10. Many people 
coming from Windows 7 have never worked with ribbons, for example. There is 
going to be a large learning curve and we can be here for them. Great job.



-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

Hi David,
Thanks, Very nice work.
I know personally how much time you spent making this guide.
Thanks very much for helping all of the Jaws users in learning w-10.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Bailes

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 8:43 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

I've written a guide to File Explorer on Windows 10 for Jaws users, and it's
available here:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-10-Guide.html

Any feedback is welcome,
David.

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[JAWS-Users] Eliminating preview pane in Outlook 2016

[Dan Kerstetter]

Hello all.

 

I just updated to Office 2016 and thought my view settings would be totally
as they were with Outlook 2013.  Now that I've updated to 2016, and after
having gone through view settings, I'm not able to get rid of the preview
pane.  Is there something I can do to make the view less cluttered?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

[Steve]

Hmmm, I'm just going to go out on a limb and guess as to why you get the 
language change when alt-tabbing?

Have you looked in regional settings to see what language you have defined?  
You 
might also need to insure you have the correct location defined in that tab 
which is also in regional settings.
- Original Message - 
From: Daniel L. Gervais
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes


I myself was using RealSpeak Solo Direct for the longest time and swore I would 
stick with a human sounding voice.

But in my job, testing accessibility in my department, I set up a version of 
JAWS that was not configured, pretty much a straight out of the box 
installation.  With all the testing, I kept elequence and have to admit, it 
grew 
on me.

Now, it is the only one I prefer and have not switched back, and don't plan on 
it either.

Like I said in my original message, I just find it odd that once I had disabled 
the language detect setting in JAWS 15, the issue went away, but when I did the 
same change in 16, the issue is still there.  Which I do find pretty odd.




From: "Rose Combs" 
To: 
Date: 2015/12/08 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use,
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.

If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent
me back to Eloquence.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the
memory!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 
From: Bissett, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

I realize this doesn't help but I experience the same behaviour.  I find
though that this happens when I am using IE 11, I don't think it happens
with other applications.  I did ask this question of the list but no one
else seems to have the problem.
Its annoying and I hope we can find a solution.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>Behalf Of Daniel L. Gervais
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:16 AM
To: List JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Hello,

This is actually my first time sending an email with this group.

I've been encountering an issue while using JAWS 16.  Everytime I press keys

on my keyboared, the JAWS language changes to French.  I've disabled the
language detect but, for example, if I press the Alt+Tab keys, instead of
JAWS saying "Alt Tab" in English, it says it in French.

I had the same issue on v15 and disabling the language detect solved it 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

[Flor Lynch]

LeftAlt+shift works here to switch keyboard layouts.

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel L. Gervais

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 1:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Just to clarify, I think the keyboard shortcut to switch between keyboards 
is actually the left Control and Shitft keys.  The left Alt and Shift keys 
don't work.




From: "Bissett, Tom" 

To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com" 
Date: 2015/12/08 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Yes I have but it made no difference.  Interesting it just started speaking 
French now.


Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Have you tried switching keyboard layouts, (left-alt-shift keys).

I haven't had your problem myself, and I'm now uisng 17. I've used 16 and 17 
with the Moira (Irish) Vocalizer Expressive voice. (Neither have I had the 
problem with Eloquence.) If you have the (Office) Language Bar installed, I 
wonder could that be making some sort of a difference there?


-Original Message-

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 8:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

It is not just the alt tab, the whole keyboard switches to French.  I have 
not tried the expressive voices to see if the problem remains or whether it 
would be a cure.

Tom Bisset
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

Well, I was addressing the language detection problem in the case. It can be 
matter of which is the more inconvenient: having alt-tab spoken (as if in 
French, every time; or having the speech synthesizer run smoothly enough.


-Original Message-

From: Rose Combs

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 7:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

That is a matter of opinion!  I have tried most of them for my language, US 
English, and in certain circumstances they work great, for everyday use, 
Eloquence is still my favorite, it reads punctuation I wish, raises and 
lowers pitch for capitalization and after 17 years of using JAWS the cadence 
is something I have gotten used to hearing.  I have used other voices but I 
go back to Eloquence and probably will do so until it disappears from the 
program.
I hated Tom years ago, Samantha is horrible, some of the others also sound 
like smokers, or Grandpa in Eloquence.
I use Paul from Voice ware in another screen reader and he is fine except 
for some mispronunciations on some words.  I used Paul then I had K1000 but 
it never worked right with Windows 7, the voices in Open Book drive me crazy 
after reading with hem for an hour or more.  However, Eloquence in Open Book 
also drives me crazy if I have to read for more than a few minutes, the 
cadence is not the same as with JAWS, the phrasing is off, pitch seems less 
stable,.  I used it to read a PDF converted for a church project, 288 pages 
more or less and I was amused by how it pronounced bible names, annoyed by 
the constant higher pitch for some items, have no clue why it could change 
pitch in the middle of a sentence, found it very distracting to be frank.
With each chapter of the book taking approximately an hour to read at a high 
rate of speed, I wanted to scream by the time I was finished.
Unfortunately, I thought that since I had premium voices from Jaws 16, that 
I could remove the ones Open Book used, discovered that is not the case, but 
I don't think I would have been any more please by Tom or Samantha which as 
I recall were to two main OB choices, since the program has not been updated 
since about 2012, I doubt that there would be choices I'd like any better.


If I were to use Vocalizer Premium voices regularly in Jaws 17, it would 
probably be Allison or Eva, but the few days I spent with each of them sent 
me back to Eloquence.




Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com
A picture may be worth a thousand words but it takes up three times the 
memory!



-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 10:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 Language Changes

If you change synthesizer, you probably won't have that problem. (Vocalizer
Expressive voices are now are as good as, or better than, Eloquence.)

-Original Message- 

From: Bissett, Tom

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 3:28 PM
To: 

[JAWS-Users] when updating McAfee internet security suite

[anna vimini]

I needed to stop the update because it was stuck .
and the cancel button would not work so I had to shut down the computer 
and restart it again so the update would cancel out.

Re: [JAWS-Users] when updating McAfee internet security suite
Why do you want to stop the update?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [
mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
Behalf Of anna vimini
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 1:56 PM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

Subject: [JAWS-Users] when updating McAfee internet security suite

Hi Janie ,
I just figured out what you meant by saying this does alt f4 work?
no alt F4 does not work it just closes the program off but the update does
not cancel out.
Re: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite does alt f4
work?

-Original Message- From: anna vimini Sent: Monday, December 07,
2015 1:23 PM To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

  Subject: [JAWS-Users] when updating Mcafee internet security suite when I
am manually updating McAfee security suite how do I cancel the update if I
decide to suddenly stop the update?
I know I am to go to cancel but the cancel button is always saying not
available I tried just entering on the button but nothing happens because it
is unavailable I also tried pressing insert and escape but no luck does
anyone on the list know what I can try?
I am running windows 8.1 and Jaws 15
Thanks in advance

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Re: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

[David Ferrin]

Thank you kind sir, you do good work. I probably shouldn't tell you that or
you might get a swelled keyboard.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Bailes
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 8:43 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] A guide to File Explorer on Windows 10

I've written a guide to File Explorer on Windows 10 for Jaws users, and it's
available here:
http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/File-Explorer-10-Guide.html

Any feedback is welcome,
David.

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