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[David Ferrin]

I said the list would be turned off until next week if you folks wouldn’t stop 
that thread about the price of JAWS, well it is so like it or not deal with it. 

So long as the list is registered in my name there will be order. 
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[David Ferrin]

I shutdown this thread several hours ago, I do not want to see any further 
discussion on this topic at all. Do I make myself clear boys and girls? FYI 
in case there are any smart asses out there that was a rhetorical question.


I am not happy in the least so knock it off now.

-Original Message- 
From: Randy Barnett

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

To be blunt your offensive. You assume too much. Sure there are people
no matter what that mismanage there money but blind people aren't worse
than any other people. And what you failed to mention is the I-Phone is
accessible and helps many blind people function better in todays world
so acting as if it is frivolous is condescending at best.
The Iphone can also be bought in installments unlike Jaws...
On 9/15/2017 3:03 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


Sorry, I don't think so.  Eric clearly states that you must be an employee 
of a company, agency or organization that has a VFO software license to be 
eligible for the JAWS low-cost home use program.  If you want to purchase 
JAWS for personal use, you will have to pay full price, regardless of your 
income or whether you are living on SSI or SSDI.  Keep in mind that some 
blind consumers who complain that they can't afford the high cost of JAWS 
are already licking their chops to buy the new IPhone 8 for $799 without 
batting an eyelash, so it's a matter of priorities. To be perfectly blunt, 
anyone who is living on SSI or SSDI should not be shelling out hundreds of 
dollars for a smart phone plus the $70 to $100 per month for service if 
they can barely pay the rent or put food on the table.


Gerald



-Original Message- From: Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So what about those of us that don't work for an organization? Can the
average fixed income person Such as SSI or SSDI take advantage of this 
offer

as well?

--
From: "Eric Damery" 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:33 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?


Hi JAWS User List,

Just wanted to jump in and explain more about this opportunity. In 
addition to the national trade shows, it's also something that is 
available for anyone in the United States or Canada who is working at an 
organization that owns a current version multiuser license JAWS, Fusion, 
or ZoomText license. We call this the Home Use Program and it’s a great 
deal that thousands of users currently take advantage of today. Modeled 
after the "Microsoft User at Home Program" where employees at very large 
organizations who own a certain level of office products, employees can 
buy the subscription for home for about $10 per year.


For Freedom Scientific products, we offer prices for a new Home Edition 
License of JAWS for just $125, regular price is $900. Fusion Home Edition 
is just $150, regular price is $1200. ZoomText is just $100.
Upgrades from real old versions is also greatly reduced, and you can get 
the SMAs discounted about 20%. Plus, once you are registered in the 
system under the Home Use Program, you are entitled to a 20% discount on 
hardware products, which can be a huge savings on something like a $2500 
Braille Display, where you can save up to $500.


If you work for an organization that has a multiuser license of any of 
the Freedom Scientific or AiSquared products, please ask someone there 
about the program. It cost them nothing to participate other than having 
their license up to date. And the employees do the purchases direct with 
Freedom Scientific so they are not involved in the transaction.


Most Federal and State agencies are already in it but hundreds of 
companies and organizations are already signed up.


Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO™ | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

Thank you for taking the rains in this matter. I was hoping to avoid a 
long argument or debate when a simple phone call could clear things up 
right away.


-Original Message-
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So, I did exactly what you asked, David.

Hal, of VFO, informed me that this special was for conventions only and 
is no longer in effect.




lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 1:01 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

I 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Laptop Keystroke

[David Ferrin]

It is the say character command.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B. 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:13 PM 
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Laptop Keystroke 


Hi All,

As a desktop user, would some one be so kind as to tell me what the laptop 
keystroke, Insert + comma, does?  Thank yall very much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Laptop Keystroke

[LeDon]

Insert plus comma reads the letter that is in focus

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 1:14 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Laptop Keystroke

Hi All,

As a desktop user, would some one be so kind as to tell me what the laptop
keystroke, Insert + comma, does?  Thank yall very much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
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[JAWS-Users] Jaws Laptop Keystroke

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

As a desktop user, would some one be so kind as to tell me what the laptop 
keystroke, Insert + comma, does?  Thank yall very much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[Randy Barnett]

To be blunt your offensive. You assume too much. Sure there are people 
no matter what that mismanage there money but blind people aren't worse 
than any other people. And what you failed to mention is the I-Phone is 
accessible and helps many blind people function better in todays world 
so acting as if it is frivolous is condescending at best.

The Iphone can also be bought in installments unlike Jaws...
On 9/15/2017 3:03 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


Sorry, I don't think so.  Eric clearly states that you must be an 
employee of a company, agency or organization that has a VFO software 
license to be eligible for the JAWS low-cost home use program.  If you 
want to purchase JAWS for personal use, you will have to pay full 
price, regardless of your income or whether you are living on SSI or 
SSDI.  Keep in mind that some blind consumers who complain that they 
can't afford the high cost of JAWS are already licking their chops to 
buy the new IPhone 8 for $799 without batting an eyelash, so it's a 
matter of priorities. To be perfectly blunt, anyone who is living on 
SSI or SSDI should not be shelling out hundreds of dollars for a smart 
phone plus the $70 to $100 per month for service if they can barely 
pay the rent or put food on the table.


Gerald



-Original Message- From: Michael Amaro
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So what about those of us that don't work for an organization? Can the
average fixed income person Such as SSI or SSDI take advantage of this 
offer

as well?

--
From: "Eric Damery" 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:33 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?


Hi JAWS User List,

Just wanted to jump in and explain more about this opportunity. In 
addition to the national trade shows, it's also something that is 
available for anyone in the United States or Canada who is working at 
an organization that owns a current version multiuser license JAWS, 
Fusion, or ZoomText license. We call this the Home Use Program and 
it’s a great deal that thousands of users currently take advantage of 
today. Modeled after the "Microsoft User at Home Program" where 
employees at very large organizations who own a certain level of 
office products, employees can buy the subscription for home for 
about $10 per year.


For Freedom Scientific products, we offer prices for a new Home 
Edition License of JAWS for just $125, regular price is $900. Fusion 
Home Edition is just $150, regular price is $1200. ZoomText is just 
$100.
Upgrades from real old versions is also greatly reduced, and you can 
get the SMAs discounted about 20%. Plus, once you are registered in 
the system under the Home Use Program, you are entitled to a 20% 
discount on hardware products, which can be a huge savings on 
something like a $2500 Braille Display, where you can save up to $500.


If you work for an organization that has a multiuser license of any 
of the Freedom Scientific or AiSquared products, please ask someone 
there about the program. It cost them nothing to participate other 
than having their license up to date. And the employees do the 
purchases direct with Freedom Scientific so they are not involved in 
the transaction.


Most Federal and State agencies are already in it but hundreds of 
companies and organizations are already signed up.


Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO™ | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

Thank you for taking the rains in this matter. I was hoping to avoid 
a long argument or debate when a simple phone call could clear things 
up right away.


-Original Message-
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So, I did exactly what you asked, David.

Hal, of VFO, informed me that this special was for conventions only 
and is no longer in effect.




lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 1:01 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

I suggest somebody who is curious about this matter contact VFO
directly to confirm or denounce this prospect.

I wouldn't want a long drawn out discussion to start as it would not
serve to further the ability of any person to use JAWS.

-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

   I'd rather pay $120 for two SMA 

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws

[Janie Degenshein]

the choices after doing a control s are
word document, rtf,plain text, all files


-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws

good afternoon all;

for all you jarte users,

is there a way to have the .docx file type the default?

When performing a save?

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[JAWS-Users] jaws

[David Whitehead]

good afternoon all;

for all you jarte users,

is there a way to have the .docx file type the default?

When performing a save?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Curious about a setting in JAWS

[JM Casey]

Speech isn't needed if you have a braille display. I suppose too you could
use this setting for test purposes, to see if the programme installed
correctly or whatever.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
Sent: September 14, 2017 7:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Curious about a setting in JAWS

Came across a setting in JAWS and am curious why there is such a setting.
"Run JAWS without Speech"
How could a blind person run JAWS without Speech?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018

[rosecombs52]

Thanks, sounds complicated but will help when I am forced to switch
browsers.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018

Hi,
Just to let you know there are settings in Edge and also there is a favorite
list. The problem is with Edge you don't get to them like you do in IE. I
will post below a tutorial by David Moore on Edge using Narrator. But a lot
of the keys for Narrator will work with Jaws 2018.

Hi all,
Microsoft Edge works so well with Narrator, that I decided to do a tutorial
on it for you guys.
Narrator works just as well with Edge as JAWS does in other browsers.
This tutorial is written very simply, and I tell you everything Narrator
says each time I press Tab and other keys.
Please enjoy and give me as much feed back as you can.
Here is the tutorial pasted in this message right now!
Tutorial for Microsoft Edge
I will write this tutorial using Narrator only. 
I am using the latest public build of Windows 10 Creators update.
If you are using anything different than that, you might get different
results.
When you can press spacebar or enter, I will list them both.
If I only list enter, that means that you can only use enter.
If I only list Spacebar, that means that you can only press spacebar to
toggle something, for example.
Also, unless you are reading what is on a web site, make sure that you have
scan mode turnned off with Narrator. For example, when we go through the
settings, and you are pressing spacebar or enter, scan mode must be off.
Remember, Pressing Caps Lock+Spacebar, toggles scan mode on and off.
That is very important. Please read Jim's tutorial on using Narrator in the
creators update of Windows 10.
I have a list of all key commands for Edge at the end of this tutorial.
Through the tutorial, I will point out many key commands as well, as I go.
 
Section Number One
Opening the Edge Browser:
Press the Windows key or CTRL+Escape, to open the start area. Next, type
Edge and enter when Narrator announces it.
Press enter, and the Edge browser should open.
 
Section Number Two
Opening the Freedom Scientific Web Site:
I pressed CTRL+L (alt+D works as well) and entered:
www.freedomscientific.com
That is the site for Freedom Scientific.
The web site came up very quickly.
I can use all navigation keys, like H for heading, C for Combo Box, E for
edit area, , for example, just like other browsers, and they all work.
Section Three
Pressing alt+X to get a large Virticle Menu:
Now, I will now press ALT+X to open the settings and more menu! This is to
the right of the address bar, but Alt+X opens this same menu. We have a lot
in this virticle menu.a large virticle menu of choices. When I down arrow, I
here the following:
New Window (CTRL+N), New InPrivate Window (CTRL+SHIFT+P), Zoom out, Zoom in,
Cast media to device, Find on page, Print, Pin this page to Start, F12
Developer Tools, Open with Internet Explorer, Send feedback, Extensions,
What's new and Tips, and finally, Settings. Extensions and Settings are the
main two choices we are interested in with this menu. Key commands will do
the rest.
Next, I will talk about settings.
Section Four:
Navigating settings and Advance settings:
Press alt+X again, and up arrow once to settings, because that is the last
choice.
Press enter on settings.
You will hear:
Choose a Theme light.
Don't worry about that!
Tab once, and you will hear:
Open Microsoft Edge with a page or set of pages combo box.
This is how you choose how you want Microsoft Edge to open.
I have mine set to a specific page or pages.
Now, Tab again, and you have an edit field where you can type in your pages
that you want opened When Microsoft Edge is launched.
I just entered:
www.google.com
Therefore, when I start Edge, the Google home page opens for me.
Tabbing again:
I hear delete button, where you can press spacebar or enter to delete your
page or pages.
Tabbing again, I hear Add Button, where you can press spacebar or enter and
add another page that you want to open when Edge is started.
Tabbing again, I hear:
Open new tabs with combo box.
I have this set to a blank page.
Tab again, and you will hear:
Import from another browser button.
You can press spacebar or enter here to import all favorites and settings
from other browsers you use, like IE 11 or Chrome, or Firefox.
Tab again, and you will hear:
Show the favorites bar toggle.
I have this unchecked, because I do not want everyone to see my favorites on
a bar right on the Edge Window. Press spacebar to check or uncheck..
Tab again, and you hear:
Choose what to clear.
If you press spacebar on this, you can tab and check or uncheck what is
cleared when you delete your history. You can also choose whether this
should be cleared every time you close the Edge browser.
Tab, and you will either hear Account Settings or your MSA account link,
depending on 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[David Ferrin]

Interesting, he posted his message and then left the list. Now did he leave 
on his own or was he helped I can't say for sure.


-Original Message- 
From: hwolcott

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 8:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

   yeah, right!!!

like the promised fixes for the promised fixes for sports scores in research
it from several years ago.

I won't hold my breath.





Howard Wolcott
-Original Message- 
From: Eric Damery

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

I understand Maria. We are working on better options for the future for all
home users. Stay tuned.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO™ | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

You know, this is very nice for organizations.  But how about those of us
who have shelled out the $900 for the program?  How about doing a little
something for us, too?  $900 is a lot of money for us, the unemployed or
retired or for those who simply can't afford that much.  Just saying.

lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 5:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

You know, this is very nice for organizations.  But how about those of
us who have shelled out the $900 for the program?  How about doing a
little something for us, too?  $900 is a lot of money for us, the
unemployed or retired or for those who simply can't afford that much.
Just saying.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 5:33 PM, Eric Damery wrote:

Hi JAWS User List,

Just wanted to jump in and explain more about this opportunity. In
addition to the national trade shows, it's also something that is
available for anyone in the United States or Canada who is working at
an organization that owns a current version multiuser license JAWS,
Fusion, or ZoomText license. We call this the Home Use Program and
it’s a great deal that thousands of users currently take advantage of
today. Modeled after the "Microsoft User at Home Program" where
employees at very large organizations who own a certain level of
office products, employees can buy the subscription for home for
about $10 per year.

For Freedom Scientific products, we offer prices for a new Home
Edition License of JAWS for just $125, regular price is $900. Fusion
Home Edition is just $150, regular price is $1200. ZoomText is just
$100.
Upgrades from real old versions is also greatly reduced, and you can
get the SMAs discounted about 20%. Plus, once you are registered in
the system under the Home Use Program, you are entitled to a 20%
discount on hardware products, which can be a huge savings on
something like a $2500 Braille Display, where you can save up to $500.

If you work for an organization that has a multiuser license of any
of the Freedom Scientific or AiSquared products, please ask someone
there about the program. It cost them nothing to participate other
than having their license up to date. And the employees do the
purchases direct with Freedom Scientific so they are not involved in
the transaction.

Most Federal and State agencies are already in it but hundreds of
companies and organizations are already signed up.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO™ | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

Thank you for taking the rains in this matter. I was hoping to avoid
a long argument or debate when a simple phone call could clear things
up right away.

-Original Message-
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So, I did exactly what you asked, David.

Hal, of VFO, informed me that this special was for conventions only
and is no longer in effect.



lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 1:01 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

I suggest somebody who is curious about this matter contact VFO
directly to confirm or denounce this prospect.

I wouldn't want a long drawn out discussion to start as it would not
serve to further the ability of any person to use JAWS.

-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Curious about a setting in JAWS

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

There are some users who prefer to rely on braille output rather than speech.  
Also for thoughes who are deaf blind this is useful.  HTH.

Matthew



On 9/14/17, 7:52 PM, "JAWS-Users-List on behalf of Loy" 
 wrote:

Came across a setting in JAWS and am curious why there is such a setting. 
"Run JAWS without Speech"
How could a blind person run JAWS without Speech?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[Russ Kiehne]

I bought jaws for that price during the ACB and NFB convention.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?


This sounds too good to be true, but someone on another list claims that he 
was told by a VFO phone rep today that they now offer a low-cost program 
whereby you can purchase a full copy of JAWS for a one-time payment of only 
$125, or $225 with two SMA’s regardless of income, rather than the standard 
price of $1000.  Has anyone heard about this low-cost program?  Or did this 
person misunderstand what the rep told him?  After all, if anyone, excluding 
businesses and government agencies,  could buy a fully unrestricted copy of 
JAWS for a mere $125, why would they choose to buy it for the regular price 
of $1000 instead?  This just doesn’t make any sense.  There must be a catch.


Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Tutorial

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

What happens if you use application mode on by  pressing insert Z twice 
quickly?  Jaws Should tell you off for all applications.  HTH.

Matthew



On 9/14/17, 7:28 PM, "JAWS-Users-List on behalf of Randy Barnett" 
 
wrote:

Hmm... Sounds like VFO or Facebook changed something. Not sure there is 
anything to be done about it.
On 9/14/2017 3:58 PM, John Vernaleken` wrote:
> In the past I pressed the letter J and I got more Newsfeed items, Now JAWS
> says Jump.
>
> John
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Randy Barnett
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:16 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Facebook Tutorial
>
> What exactly is the issue? Facebook has always been flaky with a
> screenreader.
>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and outlook 2016

[Debby]

Hi Don,

I don't see that you got an answer to your question, but hopefully you
already have found the solution. My first thought is, are you using
structured mode for braille? I am not sure when it started, but I think it
was Outlook 2010, I had to start using structured mode too see the message
list.

The only other thing I can think of is to make sure the screen is maximized.
Hope this helps!

Debby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don Raikes
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and outlook 2016

Hi,

 

I am running jaws 16.0.4474 on a windows 7 laptop. I had to upgrade from
outlook 2007 to outlook 2016 for corporate policy reasons.

 

Now my focus blue does not display anything in the message list in outlook.
I never had a problem in outlook 2007, but in 2016, the braille display just
isn't displaying anything in the message list. All other areas of the
application seem to work with the display.

 

Just tested and jaws 18.0.4104 also has the same issues.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

Don

 

BTW: I am sticking with jaws 16 because it has scripts for the cisco jabber
voip client whereas jaws 18 does not have the same scripts.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[hwolcott]

   yeah, right!!!

like the promised fixes for the promised fixes for sports scores in research 
it from several years ago.


I won't hold my breath.





Howard Wolcott
-Original Message- 
From: Eric Damery

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

I understand Maria. We are working on better options for the future for all 
home users. Stay tuned.


Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO™ | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Maria Campbell

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

You know, this is very nice for organizations.  But how about those of us 
who have shelled out the $900 for the program?  How about doing a little 
something for us, too?  $900 is a lot of money for us, the unemployed or 
retired or for those who simply can't afford that much.  Just saying.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

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--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 5:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:

You know, this is very nice for organizations.  But how about those of
us who have shelled out the $900 for the program?  How about doing a
little something for us, too?  $900 is a lot of money for us, the
unemployed or retired or for those who simply can't afford that much.
Just saying.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 5:33 PM, Eric Damery wrote:

Hi JAWS User List,

Just wanted to jump in and explain more about this opportunity. In
addition to the national trade shows, it's also something that is
available for anyone in the United States or Canada who is working at
an organization that owns a current version multiuser license JAWS,
Fusion, or ZoomText license. We call this the Home Use Program and
it’s a great deal that thousands of users currently take advantage of
today. Modeled after the "Microsoft User at Home Program" where
employees at very large organizations who own a certain level of
office products, employees can buy the subscription for home for
about $10 per year.

For Freedom Scientific products, we offer prices for a new Home
Edition License of JAWS for just $125, regular price is $900. Fusion
Home Edition is just $150, regular price is $1200. ZoomText is just
$100.
Upgrades from real old versions is also greatly reduced, and you can
get the SMAs discounted about 20%. Plus, once you are registered in
the system under the Home Use Program, you are entitled to a 20%
discount on hardware products, which can be a huge savings on
something like a $2500 Braille Display, where you can save up to $500.

If you work for an organization that has a multiuser license of any
of the Freedom Scientific or AiSquared products, please ask someone
there about the program. It cost them nothing to participate other
than having their license up to date. And the employees do the
purchases direct with Freedom Scientific so they are not involved in
the transaction.

Most Federal and State agencies are already in it but hundreds of
companies and organizations are already signed up.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO™ | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

Thank you for taking the rains in this matter. I was hoping to avoid
a long argument or debate when a simple phone call could clear things
up right away.

-Original Message-
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So, I did exactly what you asked, David.

Hal, of VFO, informed me that this special was for conventions only
and is no longer in effect.



lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 1:01 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

I suggest somebody who is curious about this matter contact VFO
directly to confirm or denounce this prospect.

I wouldn't want a long drawn out discussion to start as it would not
serve to further the ability of any person to use JAWS.

-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

I'd rather pay $120 for two SMA upgrades than $225.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 12:10 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

O.k. thanks for that.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: 14 September 2017 16:54
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018

Using Beta 2018 right now.  Supposed to work with Edge but since there are no 
menus in that program that I can find and all my favorites are in IE 11, I am 
not switching to Edge.

New OCR features that are very much worth it especially if you can't find your 
original OCR package and need to scan something on a scanner.

Web verbosity settings which I have not played with much.

Minor problems with Outlook 2016 reading messages, but no different than I 
experience in 2010 with Jaws 17 and 18.



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Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:57 AM
To: 'JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM' 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS2018

Has anyone tried the beta and are there any really useful new features?






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Mail

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Thanks, think I have sorted it now, not exactly sure how but I just kept 
clearing the update folder and I ran an IPConfig /flushdns and ipconfig 
/release although that may just be co-insidence.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of michael's emails
Sent: 15 September 2017 05:15
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Mail

Hi Steven if you go in to the microsoft store app and check for updates i think 
you must be signed in with a microsoft email account first.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 6:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Mail

My machine is not picking up the updates, I think that is the problem, the 
newer builds had improvements.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of michaels mail
Sent: 07 September 2017 06:38
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Mail

Hi i found by turning the carrot navigation mode on in mail settings
helps.
Cheers Michael.

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From: HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Thursday, September 7, 2017 2:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Mail

Hi friends,

When I press enter on a message in Windows 10 Mail, nothing is red and
moving the arrows does nothing, I am running the latest version of JAWS,
does anyone know what could possibly be happening please?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[David Ferrin]

OK folks, we all know of the high cost of medicine, food and other of the 
basics that life requires but this is not the forum for such discussions.


So knock it off this morning or I shut off the list for the weekend. Maybe 
some day if somebody else ends up running a list like this things will be 
different, but as long as Bob, Rick and I run it there will be order.


Sorry I have to be a hard case but you leave me no alternative.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[Gerald Levy]

Sorry, I don't think so.  Eric clearly states that you must be an employee 
of a company, agency or organization that has a VFO software license to be 
eligible for the JAWS low-cost home use program.  If you want to purchase 
JAWS for personal use, you will have to pay full price, regardless of your 
income or whether you are living on SSI or SSDI.  Keep in mind that some 
blind consumers who complain that they can't afford the high cost of JAWS 
are already licking their chops to buy the new IPhone 8 for $799 without 
batting an eyelash, so it's a matter of priorities. To be perfectly blunt, 
anyone who is living on SSI or SSDI should not be shelling out hundreds of 
dollars for a smart phone plus the $70 to $100 per month for service if they 
can barely pay the rent or put food on the table.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Michael Amaro

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So what about those of us that don't work for an organization?  Can the
average fixed income person Such as SSI or SSDI take advantage of this offer
as well?

--
From: "Eric Damery" 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:33 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?


Hi JAWS User List,

Just wanted to jump in and explain more about this opportunity. In 
addition to the national trade shows, it's also something that is 
available for anyone in the United States or Canada who is working at an 
organization that owns a current version multiuser license JAWS, Fusion, 
or ZoomText license. We call this the Home Use Program and it’s a great 
deal that thousands of users currently take advantage of today. Modeled 
after the "Microsoft User at Home Program" where employees at very large 
organizations who own a certain level of office products, employees can 
buy the subscription for home for about $10 per year.


For Freedom Scientific products, we offer prices for a new Home Edition 
License of JAWS for just $125, regular price is $900. Fusion Home Edition 
is just $150, regular price is $1200. ZoomText is just $100.
Upgrades from real old versions is also greatly reduced, and you can get 
the SMAs discounted about 20%. Plus, once you are registered in the system 
under the Home Use Program, you are entitled to a 20% discount on hardware 
products, which can be a huge savings on something like a $2500 Braille 
Display, where you can save up to $500.


If you work for an organization that has a multiuser license of any of the 
Freedom Scientific or AiSquared products, please ask someone there about 
the program. It cost them nothing to participate other than having their 
license up to date. And the employees do the purchases direct with Freedom 
Scientific so they are not involved in the transaction.


Most Federal and State agencies are already in it but hundreds of 
companies and organizations are already signed up.


Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO™ | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

Thank you for taking the rains in this matter. I was hoping to avoid a 
long argument or debate when a simple phone call could clear things up 
right away.


-Original Message-
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So, I did exactly what you asked, David.

Hal, of VFO, informed me that this special was for conventions only and is 
no longer in effect.




lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 1:01 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

I suggest somebody who is curious about this matter contact VFO
directly to confirm or denounce this prospect.

I wouldn't want a long drawn out discussion to start as it would not
serve to further the ability of any person to use JAWS.

-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

   I'd rather pay $120 for two SMA upgrades than $225.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 12:10 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

This sounds too good to be true, but someone on another list claims
that he was told by a VFO phone rep today that they now offer a
low-cost program whereby you can purchase a full copy of JAWS for a
one-time payment of only $125, or $225 with two SMA’s regardless of
income, rather than the standard 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Curious about a setting in JAWS

[Panagiotis Antonopoulos]

Hi Loy/all,
For one, I usually turn jaws speech off. The answer is that a blind person
can work through a Braille display which in my view, has tremendous
advantages, both for checking spelling etc, and also for being able to work
while listening to music, my vice.
Hope this makes the setting clear to you.
Gr  eetings from Greece,
T   akis

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Loy
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Curious about a setting in JAWS

Came across a setting in JAWS and am curious why there is such a setting.
"Run JAWS without Speech"
How could a blind person run JAWS without Speech?
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