Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

[Dennis Long]

If anyone tries it please report back to the list.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I received the following off list.  Perhaps someone who is using version 11
can confirm this?

Yes,
I found out it will work with a screen reader and it if fairly accessible.
You just have to turn off the gamer mode.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I would love to know myself.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I see nod32 version 11 has been released.  Does it work with jaws?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

[jyandt.martin]

And there is WLM also.

-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

There is also outlook.com where you can get an email account. I don't think 
that is what he is looking for, hover. I think that he was looking for a 
free email client that he could run from his computer.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of matthew Dyer

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

Hi,

I think what he is asking is if there are any free email services other than 
gmail and yahoo.  I believe there is something called gmx, but have not used 
it in a while.  There is also something called poste.de, but have not looked 
at it so don’’t really know.  Doing a search for free email services should 
do the trick though and if I come acrosst any myself I will be sure to pass 
them on..  Thanks.


Matthew



On 1/10/18, 2:12 PM, "JAWS-Users-List on behalf of Dave...Oregonian" 
 wrote:


   Not sure how to answer. If your friend is asking about other email 
servers,
   I suspect it is based on their web interface. Otherwise, the question 
might

   apply to the email client, perhaps?

   Dave
   Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


   - Original Message - 
   From: "t" <1forjh...@gmail.com>

   To: "jul" 
   Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:01
   Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services


   I know that jaws works on gmail and yahoo email, but are there other 
free
   email services that work with jaws? I have a blind friend that�s not 
on the

   list that asked me this question
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Editor Toolbars

[Fuzzmom]

What seems to be happening is while I'm typing suddenly 
The icons just show up and of course then I can't continue typing. I'm not
sure what program or code my forum uses. Almost like the icons are
scrolling?? Hard to describe. I use a braille display. I have refresh turned
off. I also have forms mode set to manual, both of which seem to have
helped, but not with this particular issue. Some forums have a checkbox to
disable these things, and I do. Others don't seem to have that checkbox.
Sorry just confused. 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Editor Toolbars

They don't conflict with JAWS. And it's part of the forum code. Don't know
what kind of forums you are on but on the PHB (or whatever it's called)
stuff, you can disable smilies from showing up as icons when they are
encountered, but that's not really what you are talking about, I don't
think. Anyway, you can probably do all these things from the keyboard/with
commands enclosed in brackets; the toolbar and such is just there to help
people. Sighted folks often find it easier than remembering a command.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fuzzmom
Sent: January 11, 2018 8:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Editor Toolbars

Is there a way to diaable something called an editor toolbar? Smilies,
icons, align, allsorts of stuff I don't need for simple text posting. Mostly
found in forums. I've clicked all the things that say disable, when they're
available, but that isn't working. Do these conflict with Jaws or am I just
missing something? Thanks. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Moderatore's Note! Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mike B.]

Hi Mary,

I understand this was most likely an accident, but please take your personal 
conversations off list!

Mike B. - Moderator
Jaws-Users.com
- Original Message - 
From: Mary Otten
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct 
Download Links + What's New


Hi Melanie,
Sure. Unfortunately, my braille printer is not functioning at this time, but 
I can certainly take notes and present whatever. And if you want to talk 
about it and make whatever special emphasis points you want to, that would 
be great. It looks a lot like last years it seems to me. Not a lot of 
change, except for our not being entirely sure about housing initiative 
stuff, and the lack of a crop walk. That was a surprise. If you would like 
to talk, what time works well for you?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:04 AM, Fuzzmom  wrote:
>
> I'm running outlook 2013 and sometime my email either won't accept my
> typing, or it'll just close and freze up. Have you  guys had this issue 
> and
> will the new update fix that? Also, I have the home use edition, the low
> priced one. Is there a limit to how many jws updates you can get? They 
> just
> released this early Nov and I'm surprised thy have a new update already.
> Thanks for the info.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
> Download Links + What's New
>
> Thanks, Mike. This release fixed the problem I was having reading email
> messages in Outlook 2010, so it did more than advertised.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
> To: Jaws-Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
> Download Links + What's New
>
> Hi All,
>
> I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.
>
> Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released 
> in
> December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:
>
> list of 2 items
> 1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
> navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
> email instead of the current one.
> 2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
> speak the text while navigating by character or word.
> list end
>
> Solution
>
> These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
> update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2
> options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:
>
> list of 2 items
> A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is
> OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new 
> install
> by itself.
>
>
> 32 Bit:
>
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe
>
> 64 Bit:
>
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe
>
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Cristóbal]

We all want to know . . . Who's Melanie and what's this about a "crop walk"?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

I am sorry. I have no clue how this message ended up on this thread. It was
not suppose to do that, obviously.


On 1/11/2018 4:01 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
> Hi Melanie,
> Sure. Unfortunately, my braille printer is not functioning at this time,
but I can certainly take notes and present whatever. And if you want to talk
about it and make whatever special emphasis points you want to, that would
be great. It looks a lot like last years it seems to me. Not a lot of
change, except for our not being entirely sure about housing initiative
stuff, and the lack of a crop walk. That was a surprise. If you would like
to talk, what time works well for you?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:04 AM, Fuzzmom  wrote:
>>
>> I'm running outlook 2013 and sometime my email either won't accept my
>> typing, or it'll just close and freze up. Have you  guys had this issue
and
>> will the new update fix that? Also, I have the home use edition, the low
>> priced one. Is there a limit to how many jws updates you can get? They
just
>> released this early Nov and I'm surprised thy have a new update already.
>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
>> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:52 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
>> Download Links + What's New
>>
>> Thanks, Mike. This release fixed the problem I was having reading email
>> messages in Outlook 2010, so it did more than advertised.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Mike B.
>> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
>> To: Jaws-Users
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
>> Download Links + What's New
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained
below.
>>
>> Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released
in
>> December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:
>>
>> list of 2 items
>> 1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
>> navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
>> email instead of the current one.
>> 2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
>> speak the text while navigating by character or word.
>> list end
>>
>> Solution
>>
>> These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
>> update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have
2
>> options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:
>>
>> list of 2 items
>> A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It
is
>> OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new
install
>> by itself.
>>
>>
>> 32 Bit:
>>
>> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe
>>
>> 64 Bit:
>>
>> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe
>>
>> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
the
>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mary Otten]

I am sorry. I have no clue how this message ended up on this thread. It 
was not suppose to do that, obviously.



On 1/11/2018 4:01 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

Hi Melanie,
Sure. Unfortunately, my braille printer is not functioning at this time, but I 
can certainly take notes and present whatever. And if you want to talk about it 
and make whatever special emphasis points you want to, that would be great. It 
looks a lot like last years it seems to me. Not a lot of change, except for our 
not being entirely sure about housing initiative stuff, and the lack of a crop 
walk. That was a surprise. If you would like to talk, what time works well for 
you?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:04 AM, Fuzzmom  wrote:

I'm running outlook 2013 and sometime my email either won't accept my
typing, or it'll just close and freze up. Have you  guys had this issue and
will the new update fix that? Also, I have the home use edition, the low
priced one. Is there a limit to how many jws updates you can get? They just
released this early Nov and I'm surprised thy have a new update already.
Thanks for the info.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

Thanks, Mike. This release fixed the problem I was having reading email
messages in Outlook 2010, so it did more than advertised.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
email instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
speak the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

Solution

These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2
options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:

list of 2 items
A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is
OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install
by itself.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mary Otten]

Hi Melanie, 
Sure. Unfortunately, my braille printer is not functioning at this time, but I 
can certainly take notes and present whatever. And if you want to talk about it 
and make whatever special emphasis points you want to, that would be great. It 
looks a lot like last years it seems to me. Not a lot of change, except for our 
not being entirely sure about housing initiative stuff, and the lack of a crop 
walk. That was a surprise. If you would like to talk, what time works well for 
you?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2018, at 6:04 AM, Fuzzmom  wrote:
> 
> I'm running outlook 2013 and sometime my email either won't accept my
> typing, or it'll just close and freze up. Have you  guys had this issue and
> will the new update fix that? Also, I have the home use edition, the low
> priced one. Is there a limit to how many jws updates you can get? They just
> released this early Nov and I'm surprised thy have a new update already.
> Thanks for the info. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:52 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
> Download Links + What's New
> 
> Thanks, Mike. This release fixed the problem I was having reading email
> messages in Outlook 2010, so it did more than advertised. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike B.
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
> To: Jaws-Users
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
> Download Links + What's New
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.
> 
> Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in
> December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:
> 
> list of 2 items
> 1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
> navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
> email instead of the current one.
> 2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
> speak the text while navigating by character or word.
> list end
> 
> Solution
> 
> These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
> update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2
> options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:
> 
> list of 2 items
> A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is
> OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install
> by itself.
> 
> 
> 32 Bit:
> 
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe
> 
> 64 Bit:
> 
> http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe
> 
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Editor Toolbars

[JM Casey]

They don't conflict with JAWS. And it's part of the forum code. Don't know
what kind of forums you are on but on the PHB (or whatever it's called)
stuff, you can disable smilies from showing up as icons when they are
encountered, but that's not really what you are talking about, I don't
think. Anyway, you can probably do all these things from the keyboard/with
commands enclosed in brackets; the toolbar and such is just there to help
people. Sighted folks often find it easier than remembering a command.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Fuzzmom
Sent: January 11, 2018 8:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Editor Toolbars

Is there a way to diaable something called an editor toolbar? Smilies,
icons, align, allsorts of stuff I don't need for simple text posting. Mostly
found in forums. I've clicked all the things that say disable, when they're
available, but that isn't working. Do these conflict with Jaws or am I just
missing something? Thanks. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Two problems with JAWS 2018

[Inam Uddin]

Dear friends, the matter of fact is that JAWS 2018.1712.54 is still buggy!
With some of emails  windows 10 mail app simply crashes whereas with NVDA, 
narrator and JAWS 18 is working nicely.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com
outlook:
inam...@outlook.com
yahoo:
inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca
Add my Skype ID:
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Meet me on facebook:
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Follow me on my twitter ID:
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Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598
+92-334-3348409

From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Two problems with JAWS 2018

Now that I'm trying JAWS 2018 again, I'm encountering two problems. Has anyone 
else found the same things, and if so, do you have suggestions?

1. When I alt-tab away from an IE page, JAWS doesn't return to the place I 
left, so I have to find it all over again.

2. No menus come up in Word 2010.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Fuzzmom]

I'm running outlook 2013 and sometime my email either won't accept my
typing, or it'll just close and freze up. Have you  guys had this issue and
will the new update fix that? Also, I have the home use edition, the low
priced one. Is there a limit to how many jws updates you can get? They just
released this early Nov and I'm surprised thy have a new update already.
Thanks for the info. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

Thanks, Mike. This release fixed the problem I was having reading email
messages in Outlook 2010, so it did more than advertised. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
email instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
speak the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

Solution

These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2
options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:

list of 2 items
A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is
OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install
by itself.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

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[JAWS-Users] Editor Toolbars

[Fuzzmom]

Is there a way to diaable something called an editor toolbar? Smilies,
icons, align, allsorts of stuff I don't need for simple text posting. Mostly
found in forums. I've clicked all the things that say disable, when they're
available, but that isn't working. Do these conflict with Jaws or am I just
missing something? Thanks. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Two problems with JAWS 2018

[JM Casey]

I noticed the first behaviour in JAWS 18 as well. It doesn't seem
consistent, though. In fact, I can't remember the last time that happened.
Then again, this could also have to do with the fact that I use firefox; I
think it was largely at work that I noticed this issue, and they still used
iE. I know I've noted it a bit on this machine, though, too. I don't know
what causes it or why it only happens sometimes.

By "no menus"...you mean the ribbons? I'm using Word 2010 as well, but JAWS
18; can't say I've ever had this happen. It almost sounds like something in
Word itself might have been changed?



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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: January 11, 2018 5:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Two problems with JAWS 2018

Now that I'm trying JAWS 2018 again, I'm encountering two problems. Has
anyone else found the same things, and if so, do you have suggestions?

1. When I alt-tab away from an IE page, JAWS doesn't return to the place I
left, so I have to find it all over again.

2. No menus come up in Word 2010.

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[JAWS-Users] Two problems with JAWS 2018

[Adrian Spratt]

Now that I'm trying JAWS 2018 again, I'm encountering two problems. Has anyone 
else found the same things, and if so, do you have suggestions?

1. When I alt-tab away from an IE page, JAWS doesn't return to the place I 
left, so I have to find it all over again.

2. No menus come up in Word 2010.

Thanks.
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[JAWS-Users] FW: Two problems with JAWS 2018

[Adrian Spratt]

I solved one of the problems below. MS Word needed to be maximized for the 
ribbon menu to appear. However, the IE11 problem persists. Any ideas?

From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 5:37 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Two problems with JAWS 2018

Now that I'm trying JAWS 2018 again, I'm encountering two problems. Has anyone 
else found the same things, and if so, do you have suggestions?

1. When I alt-tab away from an IE page, JAWS doesn't return to the place I 
left, so I have to find it all over again.

2. No menus come up in Word 2010.

Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Defender preventing installation of programs

[T. Civitello]

Turn it off temporarily.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: The Iowa Gal

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Defender preventing installation of programs

Hey group,

All of a sudden Windows Defender is preventing installation of programs
which I have downloaded from the Jaws Users site. I've looked through
Defender and I'm not sure if there is something in there I need to change or
what I can do to resolve this issue. I'm using Windows 10, not sure of the
version, I know I have the Fall creator update at least. If someone can
assist me in correcting this very odd behavior I would really appreciate it.
`
Thanks,
Norma
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[JAWS-Users] Windows Defender preventing installation of programs

[The Iowa Gal]

Hey group,

All of a sudden Windows Defender is preventing installation of programs
which I have downloaded from the Jaws Users site. I've looked through
Defender and I'm not sure if there is something in there I need to change or
what I can do to resolve this issue. I'm using Windows 10, not sure of the
version, I know I have the Fall creator update at least. If someone can
assist me in correcting this very odd behavior I would really appreciate it.
`
Thanks,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Dennis Long]

Rules Wizard dialog 
Step 1: Select a template List box 
To move to an item press the Arrow keys.
Alt+S

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

When I followed this sequence  just now and clicked on "new rule," I didn't
get a template, but several options to tab through.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

It is reading better in the message list in outlook 2010 however there is a
problem still.  Steps to reproduce are below:
1 open outlook2010.
2 go to rules
3 go to manage rules and alerts
4 press enter on new rule.
5 it will come up with choose a template that is where Jaws doesn't read
that list box.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

This sounds so covert.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
email instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
speak the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

Solution

These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2
options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:

list of 2 items
A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is
OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install
by itself.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Adrian Spratt]

When I followed this sequence  just now and clicked on "new rule," I didn't get 
a template, but several options to tab through.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct 
Download Links + What's New

It is reading better in the message list in outlook 2010 however there is a 
problem still.  Steps to reproduce are below:
1 open outlook2010.
2 go to rules
3 go to manage rules and alerts
4 press enter on new rule.
5 it will come up with choose a template that is where Jaws doesn't read that 
list box.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct 
Download Links + What's New

This sounds so covert.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download 
Links + What's New

Hi All,

I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in 
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while 
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened email 
instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not speak 
the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

Solution

These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018 
update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2 
options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:

list of 2 items
A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is OK 
to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install by 
itself.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

[JM Casey]

Alright, thanks. I was looking for "clickable", which of course is not
there.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: January 10, 2018 8:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hi JM,

find and expand, speech and sounds schemes.
down arrow to and activate modify schemes.
Tab to, Edit scheme, & press the spacebar.
control+tab to html tab.
tab and down arrow to on click speak.
tab and down arrow to ignore.
tab to and activate ok.
Now you have to save this modified scheme.  This will get you started, & you
will get it all figured out once you're in there.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: JM Casey
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?


Well, I'm looking in speech/sound schemes, and I can find every "attribute"
I can think of, except this one. "draggable", "droppable", but no
"clickable".


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: January 10, 2018 7:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Agree. The very few times where there's an element that can be clicked
through for me at least doesn't warrant this feature to be enabled. Besides,
you can more or less tell if and when you can click on something to bring up
a dialog on the page.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

its not useful as far as i am concerned.
both window eyes and n v d a does the same thing. and so far none of these
so called clickables click on anything.
if i could turn this off for all my screen readers i would do it. its
totally useless to me.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hey Cristobal.

Yes, I know I can disable it, but having JAWS detect these elements is
potentially useful. It just seems like it's doing it wrong, and I'd like to
know why that is. I know I'm not the only one; does everyone else just turn
the whole thing off, or live with it?



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Crist bal
Sent: January 10, 2018 7:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Disable the detect elements setting in your Jaws settings. Going off of
memory so the exact terminology may be off, but it's easy to find. I'm sure
someone else will provide step by step instructions if needed.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 4:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Hey everyone.

I know this topic came up here some time ago, but I'm afraid it wasn't
relevant to me at the time and wasn't a thread I took the time to read. So,
sorry for bringing it up again.



But yes, I was just wondering about this. I understand that there often *is*
"clickable" text on a webpage, and JAWS is trying to inform me of this fact.
But on many pages, every line will say "clickable", even though there is
nothing to click/nothing happens when you click. Why is this? And can I get
a happy medium somewhere? Obviously I don't want to miss important
information about a page, but when I'm reading a wikipedia article or IMDB
review or something and hear "clickable, clickable, clickable", on what
appears to be static text - that just seems like weird, excessive noise.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

[JM Casey]

Aha. Yes. There we go. I was looking for "clickable", and of course, did not
find anything, nor apparently have the patience to look carefully at the
whole list. Thanks.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

It is in your settings centre.

Once in there, go to Speech and Sounds Schemes, pressing right arrow to open
it.

Arrow down to modify schemes... and press the spacebar.

In the resulting dialog box, tab to the edit sound scheme button and press
the spacebar.

In the resulting dialog box, control+tab to the HTML tab and it'll be the
fourteenth item in the list, and it's labelled as "onclick" and should be
spoken as "clickable".

I have changed it to say simply click instead of the clickable so it doesn't
interfere with my webpage reading very much.

I've also changed the "on mouse over" links to just say mouse instead of the
mouse over.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

Yes Jim, they sure do.

Well, this has been a thing since at least 2016. I found the archived thread
about this, probably from this list.

I have turned off the "indicate element attributes" checkbox and this has
done the trick. But this isn't an entirely satisfying solution, since now
I'll be missing some potentially useful information as well. The little help
message informs me that you can turn on and off individual attribute
announcements using speech and sound schemes. This I know. However,
"clickable" is simply not to be found anywhere in that list. So if they
could just add it to the schemes page -- then we could turn it on and off at
will. Seems very uncomplicated to me ... or am I missing something?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: January 10, 2018 7:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

I recall a response from FS that the "clickable" ghost issue is a known item
and they're working on a fix.  I've no further information, though.  When I
switched to Firefox as my default browser about 6 months ago when IE
insisted on opening pdf's in the browser, the everpresent clickable sound
was a real nuisance. Now it's just a nuisance.  Humans have a wonderful
talent for drowning out useless noise so long as it does not tweak the
emotions.

On 1/10/2018 9:59 PM, JM Casey wrote:
> Hey everyone.
>
> I know this topic came up here some time ago, but I'm afraid it wasn't 
> relevant to me at the time and wasn't a thread I took the time to 
> read. So, sorry for bringing it up again.
>
>
>
> But yes, I was just wondering about this. I understand that there 
> often *is* "clickable" text on a webpage, and JAWS is trying to inform 
> me of this fact.
> But on many pages, every line will say "clickable", even though there 
> is nothing to click/nothing happens when you click. Why is this? And 
> can I get a happy medium somewhere? Obviously I don't want to miss 
> important information about a page, but when I'm reading a wikipedia 
> article or IMDB review or something and hear "clickable, clickable, 
> clickable", on what appears to be static text - that just seems like 
> weird, excessive noise.
>
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about Teamviewer and JAWS

[JM Casey]

It works, sure. However, you may not get a lot of feedback, depending on how
the remote person is operating. If they are sighted and moving the mouse
around and using keyboard shortcuts the way most service desk types do,
probably don't expect JAWS to say much. But yes, team viewer itself has an
extremely minimal, streamlined interface that is perfectly accessible.



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Behalf Of Arianna Calesso
Sent: January 11, 2018 9:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about Teamviewer and JAWS

Does Teamviewer work with JAWS for remote assistance?  

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

[JM Casey]

Well, it seems I was premature; it is not actually working (in the sense
that it's not solving captchas) on my Firefox 52 ESR. Oh well.

I'll get on board with FF 58. I used 57 with NVDA and it worked ok. All
reports say 58 will be better.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: January 11, 2018 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

Once the ESR goes to the latest version it won't work.  I will use the ESR
even after Jaws fixes version 57 or 58. you still get the security updates
to Fire Fox so I get the best of both worlds.   

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I believe
It appears to work with my Firefox 52 (esr). At least, the add-on is
installed and running, and some of its features appear to work, including
the additions to the firefox context menu. As to whether it solves these
things for real though -- well, to be honest, I'm still not sure.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: January 8, 2018 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I do not believe that Webvisum will work with later versions of Firefox.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Star Gazer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA


> Anybody use web vism?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of chris judge
> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
> 
> I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
> 
> is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA?
> Email is golden!!!
> Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about Teamviewer and JAWS

[Miriam Vieni]

A sighted person has used it several with me, in order to assist me.

Miriam

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Arianna Calesso
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about Teamviewer and JAWS

Does Teamviewer work with JAWS for remote assistance?  

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

[Dennis Long]

Could someone maybe run a trial?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I received the following off list.  Perhaps someone who is using version 11
can confirm this?

Yes,
I found out it will work with a screen reader and it if fairly accessible.
You just have to turn off the gamer mode.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I would love to know myself.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I see nod32 version 11 has been released.  Does it work with jaws?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

[LeDon]

There is also outlook.com where you can get an email account. I don't think 
that is what he is looking for, hover. I think that he was looking for a free 
email client that he could run from his computer. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of matthew Dyer
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services

Hi,

I think what he is asking is if there are any free email services other than 
gmail and yahoo.  I believe there is something called gmx, but have not used it 
in a while.  There is also something called poste.de, but have not looked at it 
so don’’t really know.  Doing a search for free email services should do the 
trick though and if I come acrosst any myself I will be sure to pass them on..  
Thanks.

Matthew



On 1/10/18, 2:12 PM, "JAWS-Users-List on behalf of Dave...Oregonian" 
 
wrote:

Not sure how to answer. If your friend is asking about other email servers, 
I suspect it is based on their web interface. Otherwise, the question might 
apply to the email client, perhaps?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "t" <1forjh...@gmail.com>
To: "jul" 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:01
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] free email services


I know that jaws works on gmail and yahoo email, but are there other free 
email services that work with jaws? I have a blind friend that�s not on 
the 
list that asked me this question
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

[Russ Kiehne]

I received the following off list.  Perhaps someone who is using version 11 
can confirm this?


Yes,
I found out it will work with a screen reader and it if fairly accessible.
You just have to turn off the gamer mode.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I would love to know myself.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I see nod32 version 11 has been released.  Does it work with jaws?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

[Dennis Long]

Once the ESR goes to the latest version it won't work.  I will use the ESR
even after Jaws fixes version 57 or 58. you still get the security updates
to Fire Fox so I get the best of both worlds.   

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I believe
It appears to work with my Firefox 52 (esr). At least, the add-on is
installed and running, and some of its features appear to work, including
the additions to the firefox context menu. As to whether it solves these
things for real though -- well, to be honest, I'm still not sure.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: January 8, 2018 3:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I do not believe that Webvisum will work with later versions of Firefox.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Star Gazer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA


> Anybody use web vism?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of chris judge
> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
> 
> I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA
> 
> is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA?
> Email is golden!!!
> Kevin Lee
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

[Dennis Long]

I would love to know myself.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I see nod32 version 11 has been released.  Does it work with jaws?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Dennis Long]

It is reading better in the message list in outlook 2010 however there is a
problem still.  Steps to reproduce are below:
1 open outlook2010.
2 go to rules 
3 go to manage rules and alerts 
4 press enter on new rule.
5 it will come up with choose a template that is where Jaws doesn't read
that list box.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

This sounds so covert.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct
Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
email instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
speak the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

Solution

These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2
options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:

list of 2 items
A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is
OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install
by itself.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Vicki W.]

it's the latest, and it's there for other .pdf documents, just not these 3.


- Original Message - 
From: "David G. Carlson Via iPhone" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


Have you updated to the latest version of jaws 2018? That feature came 
late in the rollout.


Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:53 PM, net bat66  wrote:

check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 
documents.



- Original Message - From: "net bat66" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - From: "Vicki W." 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - From: "Reed" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Vicki W.]

I have never used 18. Didn't like it. This is 2018. I'm guessing it's not 
there because it's imbedded text in an image.



- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 
documents.



- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[David Ferrin]

This sounds so covert.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct 
Download Links + What's New


Hi All,

I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened
email
instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not
speak the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

Solution

These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018
update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2
options
for receiving a pre-release update as follows:

list of 2 items
A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is
OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install
by itself.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

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[JAWS-Users] Question about Teamviewer and JAWS

[Arianna Calesso]

Does Teamviewer work with JAWS for remote assistance?  

Arianna
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[JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

[Russ Kiehne]

I see nod32 version 11 has been released.  Does it work with jaws?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Mike. This release fixed the problem I was having reading email 
messages in Outlook 2010, so it did more than advertised. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 12:16 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download 
Links + What's New

Hi All,

I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in 
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while 
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened email 
instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not speak 
the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

Solution

These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018 
update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2 
options for receiving a pre-release update as follows:

list of 2 items
A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is OK 
to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install by 
itself.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54, Direct Download Links + What's New

[Mitch]

Hi Mike,  Thanks as always for your extra effort in informing the list of 
updates, etc.
I had the Windows 10 Mail problem of reading prior messages and previously 
reported it to VFO as did many others.
While this update fixed the reading problem, another issue that I previously 
reported still exists  and I again reported it to tech support this morning.
In my case and maybe others as well, certain emails – like every one from 
KimKomando.com – cause the mail program to close and unload.  I hope this can 
be addressed prior to the next update, whenever it is released.
All just FWIW, Mitch

Always proofread carefully to insure no words are out.’

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 10:17 PM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unofficial J2018 update, Build, 1712.54,Direct Download 
Links + What's New

Hi All,

I learned about this update from another list, & it's all explained below.

Reading issues have been reported when using JAWS 2018.1712.10 (released in 
December 2017) with  Windows 10 Universal apps.  Here are some examples:

list of 2 items
1. In Windows Mail, JAWS 2018 will not speak the body of an email while 
navigating by character or word.  And JAWS may read a previously opened 
email
instead of the current one.
2. In Sticky Notes, JAWS 2018 repeats the character in focus and will not 
speak the text while navigating by character or word.
list end

Solution

These problems have been fixed and will be included in the next JAWS 2018 
update.  But if you need these fixes before the public release, you have 2 
options
for receiving a pre-release update as follows:

list of 2 items
A. Download the full version update from the appropriate link below. It is 
OK to install over the existing version, or it can be done as a new install
by itself.


32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171254AT7754/J2018.1712.54enu-x64.exe

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Re: [JAWS-Users] online outlook client

[Debby]

Hi Kevin,

It's been awhile since I used that, but if you haven't already you need to use 
the "light" version of the interface. The last I knew the full feature version 
did not play well with JAWS. 

Debby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 9:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] online outlook client

using  jaws 2018 I’m having trouble opening my email messages from 
www.office.com I would assume when you arrow to a message icon I would just 
need to press enter on the message icon to open and I would beable to read the 
message line by line with the arrow keys.  but for some reason when I press 
enter on an icon the message doesn’t open.  but when I select a message jaws 
will read it.  I prefer to read an email line by line that way I can take my 
time when jaws is reading me the message.  is this a bug in 2018 or is there 
some special way to open the message?
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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