Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2018-07-21 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
Actually, you can: you need to save membership list to a text file, then ask
Groups.IO to offer you a one-month transfer plan (ten dollars), which then
will allow you to add members directly via file upload method. Also, in
theory, you can port archives to Groups.IO provided that it is in Unix mbox
format.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
David Ferrin
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

It is not possible for me to do that given there is no feature that I can
see for importing members from a Mailman email list.

So it is dealers choice so to speak, people may join or not it is their
decision.

-Original Message-
From: rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

So we won't be automatically moved?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Hi Jerry,

In case you haven't received the subscribe link as of yet, here it is:

jaws-users-list+subscr...@groups.io

Click on the above link, put, subscribe, in the subject field and send.
Reply to the confirmation email, and you're set.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement


David:

When will the "invitations" go out? That way, I can be on the lookout.
Thanks for all of the diligence on the teams part.
Jerry

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

This is not going to happen as I prefer to work with people I have known for
a long time, and who have had my back more than once over the years. Nothing
personal to anybody else but these guys have earned their place on my team.

-Original Message-
From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

Even though I have participated on this particular list minimally as a
contributor, I also vote for integrating the list with the existing JAWS for
Windows Users Group on the Groups.io e-mail list/online forum.  No purpose
is served by having multiple JAWS user groups.  It's one thing, for
instance, to have specialist groups like the JAWS scripting group, but if
one is looking to bring end users together the idea should be reaching the
largest audience in a single place.

For anyone who's curious, send an e-mail message to the Help e-mail address
listed below.  You can also visit the group homepage, as Groups.io is a
hybrid service that combines an e-mail interface and also has a web
interface, at:  https://jfw.groups.io/g/main The topics forum/archive can be
viewed online by anyone at https://jfw.groups.io/g/main/topics


   - Post: m...@jfw.groups.io
   - Subscribe: main+subscr...@jfw.groups.io
   - Unsubscribe: main+unsubscr...@jfw.groups.io
   - Group Owner: main+ow...@jfw.groups.io
   - Help: main+h...@jfw.groups.io


If you also happen to be a user of Windows 10 and a screen reader, consider
joining the group for just that demographic:

Group main page:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10

Topics Forum/Archive:  https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topics


   - Post: wi...@win10.groups.io
   - Subscribe: win10+subscr...@win10.groups.io
   - Unsubscribe: win10+unsubscr...@win10.groups.io
   - Group Owner: win10+ow...@win10.groups.io
   - Help: win10+h...@win10.groups.io


Personally, I'd love to see the JAWS for Windows, NVDA, and Windows 10 for
Screen Reader Users groups "fused."  There is very little that goes on in
any one of them that doesn't have partial or total cross-over interest for
the other.  In addition, Groups.io gives you an exquisite level of control
over just what e-mail messages you will get from any group of which you're a
member.  See:

*Fine*-*Grained* *Control* Over the Group Messages You Receive from
Groups.io


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Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

2018-07-19 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi David,
I propose talking to James H (owner of the JFW list on Groups.IO) and see if 
the lists can be combined.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

I am considering moving the list over to groups IO as I understand they seem to 
have less problems of being bounced by various internet providers. Over the 
years and especially lately we have lost a number of good members since their 
providers will not allow messages from this domain to get to subscribers, and 
as such they bounce and get removed by the server. I can’t even contact these 
people privately since my email address is tied to this domain. 

I have to bring my people up to date on groups IO next, the good thing it is a 
lot easier to figure out than Mailman. It is almost 10 years since the last 
move and with luck this will be the last. I do not know how much longer I will 
keep running this beast, but believe it or not in October it will be 13 years. 
Bob and I never figured on it lasting this long, There is obviously a need 
which is the reason for keeping it. 
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

2018-06-21 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
I'll try my best to address several questions about emoji panel in one go:

Q. What is emoji?
Emoji (a shorthand Japanese for "emotion characters", from Romanization of
"emo" and "ji" (character)) is a picture that represents objects, emotions,
people, events and so on. This came about in the late 1990's where people
wanted to conserve space on data usage yet wanted to express their emotions
to the fullest. This became pop0ular among Japanese mobile phone users via
SMS (short messaging service) before it gain widespread usage in 2010's.

Q. How do I read emoji?
It'll depend on screen reader and synthesizer in use. Some synthesizers do
support announcing emojis, while others don't. Also, the ability to
recognize emojis will depend on how the screen reader processes Unicode data
and instructions sent to speech synthesizers regarding how to process such
characters.

Q. How do I input emoji?
In Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update) and later, you can browse
and insert emoji by pressing Windows+period or Windows+semicolon. Note that
in 1709 and 1803 (April 2018 Update), only United States English keyboard
layout will let you browse emojis. In Redstone 5 (under development), this
restriction is gone.
In 1709 and 1803, once emoji panel opens, press the arrow keys to move
through emojis. Press Tab to cycle through emoji categories, or if you're
looking for a specific emoji, type the name and the panel will return
suggestions. To insert a given emoji, press Enter.
In Redstone 5, you can still use arrow keys to move through emojis. However,
pressing Tab will not cycle through categories; rather, it'll switch between
emojis and categories. To select a different emoji category, press Tab to go
the categories, then use left or right arrows to move through categories and
press Enter. In case of People category, you can choose a skin tone. Once
the emoji is found, press Enter.

Q. Does JAWS support emoji panel?
Not at this time (according to tests). Some users asked VFO regarding this
matter not long ago.

Q. Does other screen readers support emoji panel?
Write to me privately regarding this matter please (not only to keep the
topic on scope, but also because I am the one who brought support for emoji
panel for a certain screen reader; hint: there will come a day when a
certain scripts will not be required to interact with emoji panel, but
that's for another time).

Cheers,
Joseph
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Paul Mugambi
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 6:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Just For Fun, Emoji

hello am using Jaws 2018 on windows 10 how do i  put Emoji?

On 6/22/18, Rebecca Lineberger  wrote:
> I was reading on another JAWS List and someone had used an emoji, if 
> that's the right word.  JAWS described it when I was reading with the 
> down-arrow key but not the left and right arrows, so it would seem 
> that there was no colon and closed parenthesis to make a smiling face.  
> Windows 10 can, they say, bring up a list of emoji with Windows key 
> and either the period or the semicolon.  But if it does, JAWS can't see
them, and neither can I!  LOL.
> I
> tried recognizing the screen, but got no descriptions.  I googled and 
> found that there is an add-on for NVDA that will make these emoji
accessible.
> Not
> having NVDA installed, I can't check.  It would be fun if JAWS had 
> this since we all send stuff to sighted friends.
>
> Presumably, everyone can already do this on their iPhones, but alas, 
> no iPhone yet.  So, again, it would be great if JAWS would let me play!
LOL.
>
> Just sayin'
>
> Rebecca
>
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> A mind is like a parachute.  It doesn't work if it isn't open.
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry

2018-05-28 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
Take a look at the following discussion from Win10 forum:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/topic/18847379?p=,,,20,0,0,0::Created,,,20,2
,120,18847379,d=4,ct=1=4=1
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2018 11:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry

Okay ... now for the dumb question of the day. What is Fast Start, and where
do I find out if I do, or do not, have it activated? Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 8:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry

Howdy Jerry,

Do you have Fast Start enabled?  If this is enabled then when you shut your
computer down it doesn't really shut down, but it goes into a hibernated
state that allows the computer to wake-up & install updates, run security
scans, & whatever the Widows 10 system is supposed to do in this state.
These tasks are all scheduled and designed to do their thing when your
computer is not being used.  But, if Fast Start is disabled it can't do
these scheduled tasks.  So, in your case if Fast Start is not turned on in
can't wake-up to install the updates and you would have to do them manually.
If you have Fast Start enabled and the updates aren't being installed there
might be an error code message somewhere which explains why. if you do a
search using the error code number as your search criteria.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message -
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 5:48 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry


Evening all.

Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, I have a confusing problem.

When I go to shut down my laptop, I close all open programs with the
exception of JAWS. After returning to the desktop, I use the ALT F4 command,
and I get an option for updating and shutting down. But after pressing this
option, my laptop goes ahead and shuts down. So, the next time I start my
device, and shut it down for the day, I still get this option. I go into the
Windows notifications, and it states there is an update that was not able to
be completed. Any suggestions/advice on this problem? Thanks in advance for
any help.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

2018-05-27 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
There is an active discussion on Win10 (groups.io) forum where people wrote
about various avenues it may occur. So far, the top two possibilities are
either:
1. Notification announcement is turned off in JAWS.
2. A specific Win32 host process isn't running.

As a follow-up, someone posted instructions on restoring help balloons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 6:10 AM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

I Googled the problem.  There were solutions posted for Windows 10 Pro but
not for the Home version.  But I found this interesting.  It's not JAWS
fault, since it seems there is no message displayed.

Someone wrote:

I'm glad I found this thread... I am having a similar issue...

 

When "Safely Removing" using the Icon on the lower right of the Taskbar, the
Safe Removal confirmation message no longer appears...

 

There is just a quick blink on the Taskbar... Checking ThisPC afterwards
shows the drive in question has been removed...

Maybe Microsoft will fix this in a later update.

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] New windows 10 version #-RE: jaws and Microsoft edge

2018-05-20 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
You mean April 2018 Update? It should be:
Version 1803 (OS build 17134.x)
The "x" might be anything.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
John R. Vaughn
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 7:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New windows 10 version #-RE: jaws and Microsoft edge

Kevin, what should be the version number on the spring creators version that I 
hear when I use the winver command?
Thank you.
John

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Of Kevin Lee
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 6:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and Microsoft edge

It seems that with the recent build of jaws and the windows 10 spring creators 
update Microsoft edge has gotten usable with jaws.  Jaws still says too much in 
edge Like entering navigation, and exiting navigation But I can put up with 
that as long as edge doesn’t unexpectably  stop working like with internet 
explorer!

E-mail is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws on a Tablet

2018-05-16 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
Recent developments made this a bit complicated:
1. JAWS will not run on Windows 10 S, or these days, called Windows 10 in S
Mode.
2. Not all tablets are powered by Windows nor x86 processors.
3. There are devices that runs Windows 10 but are powered by ARM processors,
and for this, JAWS may not run well.

Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws on a Tablet

I noticed that some of the windows tablets I looked at are running windows
10s.  I don't think you can run jaws on them?

-Original Message-
From: ratshtron
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws on a Tablet

not sure if jaws will run on a tablet. most tablets are either android or
some may have a version of windows specific to that tablet and it may be
posible to install jaws on something like that. the android tablets can have
a program
(app) installed or already is installed for speech output called talkback.
works quite well.
the only thing about android devices is that the os is specific to each
device and sometimes updates are hard to come by. android oreo is the latest
release but android p is coming out soon.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 5/15/2018 11:04 AM, Mary jo said:

>   I am new to this list so may be asking an inappropriate question. 
>Please let me know.  I am currently running Jaws 18 on my desktop PC.  
>I want to transition to a tablet and want to know what tablets on the 
>market support Jaws.  Also can I install my current version of Jaws or 
>do I need to purchase something different.  Thank you.  Mary Jo 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] is there a blind users list for windows ten?

2018-05-14 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
One of them is:
https://win10.groups.io/g/win10
Cheers,
Joseph


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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
jimrawls
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 6:06 PM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] is there a blind users list for windows ten?

Hi all,

Can someone send me a link to join, if there is such a link? Thanks in
advance. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

2018-03-25 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
Windows+T will cycle through Taskbar icons, including pinned programs,
running programs and what not. In contrast, Windows+Tab will do different
things depending on which Windows release you've got:
* Windows prior to Vista: moves focus to Taskbar.
* Windows Vista: cycle through open programs via AERO Flip 3D.
* Windows 7: Peak at running program icons.
* Windows 8.x: cycles through running Windows Store paps.
* Windows 10 versions prior to 1803: display a grid of open windows and
manage virtual desktops.
* Windows 10 Version 1803: shows a grid of open windows, manage virtual
desktops, and a feature I'll be demonstrating on March 26th Tek Talk.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

True, windows plus tab just allows me to arrow to the different programs.
Windows t seems roughly the seem.
 

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

Hi Cheez & Joseph,

Running Windows 7 Pro on 2 Dell desktops & 2 Lenovo laptops with J16 thru
J2018 latest, & Windows + Tab does not work to switch between open programs,
at all!  Actually invoking the Windows + Tab, keystroke doesn't do anything
useful.  On the other hand using, Alt + Tab. Works just fine to switch
between programs.  I'm only speaking about our personal computers, & noone
elses.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]


Hi,
This command is used in various layouts.
As for why Windows+TAT won't work on Windows 7: AERO Flip is used in this
case. As opposed to earlier releases, when you press this command, Windows
Vista and 7 will present a list of icons, and you can press Windows Tab
multiple times to cycle between programs. On Windows 8.x, this command is
used to cycle through Windows Store apps, and on Windows 10, opens Task View
(a combination of traditional taskbar and virtual desktop management
features; a new feature joins this screen starting with Version 1803).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
cheez
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

How about in the future, differentiate which keyboard layout is being used
when sharing tips about keystrokes.  It would help immensely.

Vince

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar


> Hi Justin & Rebecca,
>
> I just tried using the, Windows key + Tab, keystroke without success 
> on my Windows 7 Pro 64 bit computer running J16 thru J2018 latest .
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sennt from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
> the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Rebecca Lineberger
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar
>
>
> I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and 
> right arrow through all the open windows.  Press enter on the one you 
> want to select it.  If you want to close something as you're arrowing 
> through, press the application/menu key and arrow up to close and 
> press enter.
> As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile.  Smile.
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:45 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] task bar
>
> I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab 
> through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 
> open, I can only see one or two.  Is there an overlay or something, 
> why is this happening, and how do I fix it?
> Justin
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

2018-03-25 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
So my hypothesis was correct: it shows icons of running apps on screen. For
situations like this, try using Windows+T (which also works on Windows 10,
by the way).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

Hi Cheez & Joseph,

Running Windows 7 Pro on 2 Dell desktops & 2 Lenovo laptops with J16 thru
J2018 latest, & Windows + Tab does not work to switch between open programs,
at all!  Actually invoking the Windows + Tab, keystroke doesn't do anything
useful.  On the other hand using, Alt + Tab. Works just fine to switch
between programs.  I'm only speaking about our personal computers, & noone
elses.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]


Hi,
This command is used in various layouts.
As for why Windows+TAT won't work on Windows 7: AERO Flip is used in this
case. As opposed to earlier releases, when you press this command, Windows
Vista and 7 will present a list of icons, and you can press Windows Tab
multiple times to cycle between programs. On Windows 8.x, this command is
used to cycle through Windows Store apps, and on Windows 10, opens Task View
(a combination of traditional taskbar and virtual desktop management
features; a new feature joins this screen starting with Version 1803).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
cheez
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

How about in the future, differentiate which keyboard layout is being used
when sharing tips about keystrokes.  It would help immensely.

Vince

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar


> Hi Justin & Rebecca,
>
> I just tried using the, Windows key + Tab, keystroke without success 
> on my Windows 7 Pro 64 bit computer running J16 thru J2018 latest .
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sennt from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
> the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Rebecca Lineberger
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar
>
>
> I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and 
> right arrow through all the open windows.  Press enter on the one you 
> want to select it.  If you want to close something as you're arrowing 
> through, press the application/menu key and arrow up to close and 
> press enter.
> As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile.  Smile.
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Justin Williams
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:45 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] task bar
>
> I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab 
> through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 
> open, I can only see one or two.  Is there an overlay or something, 
> why is this happening, and how do I fix it?
> Justin
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

2018-03-25 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
This command is used in various layouts.
As for why Windows+TAT won't work on Windows 7: AERO Flip is used in this
case. As opposed to earlier releases, when you press this command, Windows
Vista and 7 will present a list of icons, and you can press Windows Tab
multiple times to cycle between programs. On Windows 8.x, this command is
used to cycle through Windows Store apps, and on Windows 10, opens Task View
(a combination of traditional taskbar and virtual desktop management
features; a new feature joins this screen starting with Version 1803).
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
cheez
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]

How about in the future, differentiate which keyboard layout is being used
when sharing tips about keystrokes.  It would help immensely.

Vince

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar


> Hi Justin & Rebecca,
>
> I just tried using the, Windows key + Tab, keystroke without success on my
> Windows 7 Pro 64 bit computer running J16 thru J2018 latest .
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sennt from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message - 
> From: Rebecca Lineberger
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar
>
>
> I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and 
> right
> arrow through all the open windows.  Press enter on the one you want to
> select it.  If you want to close something as you're arrowing through, 
> press
> the application/menu key and arrow up to close and press enter.
> As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile.  Smile.
> Rebecca
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Justin Williams
> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:45 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] task bar
>
> I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab
> through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 open, 
> I
> can only see one or two.  Is there an overlay or something, why is this
> happening, and how do I fix it?
> Justin
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

2018-03-24 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
Did you say this is on Windows 10? I'm wondering if this is yet another
manifestation of a miscommunication between JAWS and UIA...
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

Yeap, unloading and reloading jaws work that time, it doesn't always, but
that time it did.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 9:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar

Hi Justin & Rebecca,

I just tried using the, Windows key + Tab, keystroke without success on my
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit computer running J16 thru J2018 latest .
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Rebecca Lineberger
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar


I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and right
arrow through all the open windows.  Press enter on the one you want to
select it.  If you want to close something as you're arrowing through, press
the application/menu key and arrow up to close and press enter.
As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile.  Smile.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] task bar

I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab
through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 open, I
can only see one or two.  Is there an overlay or something, why is this
happening, and how do I fix it?
Justin


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module

2018-03-13 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
Hmmm, and is JAWS functional? Have you tried System Restore to see if it
fixes it for a while?
As for why I asked for Windows 10 release version: when people say they've
got Windows 10, some of us (including I) go into a "panic mode" where we
need to ask which release of Windows 10 one is using due to massive
differences between releases. In case of the info below, Tim is using
Version 1709.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Timothy Appleby
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module

Lets try this again: MicrosoftR WindowsR Operating System Version
10.0.16299.15,I hope this is enough for everyone here. As for when this
dialog pops up, it comes up when ever I restart or sign out of my computer
and sign back in .

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module

Hi,
You say you've got Windows 10? That won't really help us, you know (and you
should by now). I'm intentionally picky about it for an important reason: we
need the release version please.
With that out of the way: does the problem occur after restarting your
computer?
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Timothy Appleby
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module

Ok, here is the operating system I'm running: Windows 10 64, JAWS Version
2018.1802.78. I hope this furthers my assistance level.

Timothy Appleby

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module

Hi Timothy,

It would be very helpful if you told us what operating system & what version
of Jaws you're running!  Leaving out this information will yield you very
few replies, if any at all!

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Timothy Appleby
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module


HI all, I have a  missing module and need to find out if it's a critical
file for my system to run or not. If anyone is able to help, it would be
gratefully appreciated



Thank you in advance;



Timothy Appleby.



P.S.



I don't know how to copy a dialog and paste the contents of that dialog into
this message so that listers can help me.



If anyone is able to advise me on that, that would also be greatful.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module

2018-03-13 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
You say you've got Windows 10? That won't really help us, you know (and you
should by now). I'm intentionally picky about it for an important reason: we
need the release version please.
With that out of the way: does the problem occur after restarting your
computer?
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Timothy Appleby
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module

Ok, here is the operating system I'm running: Windows 10 64, JAWS Version
2018.1802.78. I hope this furthers my assistance level.

Timothy Appleby

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module

Hi Timothy,

It would be very helpful if you told us what operating system & what version
of Jaws you're running!  Leaving out this information will yield you very
few replies, if any at all!

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Timothy Appleby
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 8:42 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module


HI all, I have a  missing module and need to find out if it's a critical
file for my system to run or not. If anyone is able to help, it would be
gratefully appreciated



Thank you in advance;



Timothy Appleby.



P.S.



I don't know how to copy a dialog and paste the contents of that dialog into
this message so that listers can help me.



If anyone is able to advise me on that, that would also be greatful.



Thank you once again.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

2018-03-10 Thread joseph.lee22590 
Hi,
 I see. I did say, "part of this may have to do with ...", which leaves open
the possibility that it might not be apps at all, but rather JAWS alone.
Given one evidence here, I'd say let's gather more evidence before we
conclude for sure that it is JAWS. If folks running JAWS 16 and 17 on other
computers can replicate this, then we can move forward and say that
bisecting the code might be the next step (from VFO's side, as core code in
JAWS is closed source).
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

Joseph,

I must respectfully disagree with your point. Earlier versions of JAWS on
the same machine do not exhibit the same symptoms. It is clear to me that it
is the new design of JAWS from version 17 onward that is the root cause of
the freezing, hesitation, and slowdown. To wit -- why would VFO put an auto
restart routine into JAWS so that it can quietly crash and restart, when
things bog down? Why not simply fix the disease, and not the symptom?'

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Joseph Lee" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 17:38
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs


Hi,
I think it is a bit early to blame assistive tech alone in this saga; part
of this may have to do with Windows and apps, as well as resource overload
and such.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

As Jaws users we shouldn't "have to  put up with it". I also experience this
freezing, both when switching between programs and when doing things in
Outlook. If the fact that Jaws uses a lot of Ram, particularly when
switching programs, I would hope that Jaws programmers and developers are
addressing this, particularly since there is only one other competitor to
Jaws on the market.
We should not have to put up with issues that affect our productivity,
particularly if the issues are caused by the assistive  technology we're
using to be productive!
  John   to
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Behalf Of john_just...@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

Hello Mike,
John Justice, here.
I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
you describe.

In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention of
our upper level Access group.  Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
but it might give you food for thought.

 1. THE ISSUE AT HAND:  apparently, what we are experiencing is the
assignment of RAM.  Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a considerable
amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
another.  The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM  to
perform the function.
2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT:  It is possible to assign certain programs
on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs can
be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily. There
are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
permanent top priority.  I imagine that the Windows operating system might
have that kind of assignment.
3.  According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division of
RAM  into smaller compartments which then handle this function.  The entire
process scares the heck out of me.  It isn't something I'd want to attempt.
There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than I
have.
4.  A WORKING SOLUTION:  I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
handles primary functions.  For example, I use the secondary unit to load
and display Excel spreadsheets.  But even with that arrangement, certain
pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
loaded.  The down time has been measured  and it is usually approximately32
seconds.
5.  CREATING HOTKEYS FOR RELOADING JAWS:  Finally, we have established
hotkeys which can be used to encourage Jaws to restart.  Occasionally,
though rarely, Jaws wil not restart after one of these incidents.  We use
three key combinations which are dedicated to reactivating Jaws.

The entire thing is frustrating to say the least, Mike.  But it's