Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread East, Robin
Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at least the 
story I am sticking too!!
Later...
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Hi Robin,

1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, we 
know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, then, 
D.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


Using JAWS 16 Beta...
Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
readable text.

Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

All it keeps saying to me is empty document.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for 
 document
 recognition.

 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


 I have jaws 15 and it works here


 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:

  insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending

 good luk

 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread simon wong
Well either way the option doesn't work for me

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
 frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at least 
 the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
 document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, we 
 know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, then, 
 D.
 
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
 the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
 readable text.
 
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for 
 document
 recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread East, Robin
Okay, this PDF document ... Are you certain that if a sighted opened it up they 
would see text and secondly are you running JAWS 16 Beta or which JAWS are you 
running...
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of simon wong
Sent: October 22, 2014 8:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Well either way the option doesn't work for me

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
 frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at least 
 the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
 document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, we 
 know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, then, 
 D.
 
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
 the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
 readable text.
 
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for 
 document
 recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
Convenient OCR will perform OCR on what is on the screen with JAWS 15,
but if you want do use it to perform OCR on a PDF document, you will
need JAWS 16. This is why you are having this trouble.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Well either way the option doesn't work for me

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca
wrote:
 
 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is
frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at
least the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty

 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d 
 for document. It should then convert the text image into readable 
 text.  But, we know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar,

 then press, O, then, D.
 
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then

 tap the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image 
 into readable text.
 
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a 
 blank OCR document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for 
 document recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, 
 and D for document recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message -
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]

 On Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein 
 jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document 
 which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread simon wong
when the person sent me the document, they said that there was something in 
there.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:03 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Okay, this PDF document ... Are you certain that if a sighted opened it up 
 they would see text and secondly are you running JAWS 16 Beta or which JAWS 
 are you running...
 robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 8:00 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Well either way the option doesn't work for me
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
 frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at least 
 the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
 document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, we 
 know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, then, 
 D.
 
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
 the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
 readable text.
 
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for 
 document
 recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help

Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread simon wong
I have Josh 15

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:03 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Okay, this PDF document ... Are you certain that if a sighted opened it up 
 they would see text and secondly are you running JAWS 16 Beta or which JAWS 
 are you running...
 robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 8:00 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Well either way the option doesn't work for me
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
 frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at least 
 the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
 document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, we 
 know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, then, 
 D.
 
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
 the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
 readable text.
 
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for 
 document
 recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread East, Robin
A, okay, only JAWS 16 Beta will actually to OCR on a PDF document. That is 
why you are having issues.
So with JAWS 15 you can not read this document.
robinl

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of simon wong
Sent: October 22, 2014 1:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

I have Josh 15

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:03 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Okay, this PDF document ... Are you certain that if a sighted opened it up 
 they would see text and secondly are you running JAWS 16 Beta or which JAWS 
 are you running...
 robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 8:00 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Well either way the option doesn't work for me
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
 frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at least 
 the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
 document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, we 
 know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, then, 
 D.
 
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
 the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
 readable text.
 
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for 
 document
 recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list

Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread simon wong
Okay, well I can't really decide what John's vision I'm going to get, 
apparently that's up to whatever at the rehab center will get for me. And 
whatever they will cover. So I guess I'm out of luck there.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 4:02 PM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 A, okay, only JAWS 16 Beta will actually to OCR on a PDF document. That 
 is why you are having issues.
 So with JAWS 15 you can not read this document.
 robinl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 1:57 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 I have Josh 15
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:03 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Okay, this PDF document ... Are you certain that if a sighted opened it up 
 they would see text and secondly are you running JAWS 16 Beta or which JAWS 
 are you running...
 robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 8:00 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Well either way the option doesn't work for me
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
 frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at least 
 the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
 document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, 
 we 
 know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, 
 then, 
 D.
 
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
 the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
 readable text.
 
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for 
 document
 recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked

Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread East, Robin
Simon, this from the JAWS 16 Beta information:
Enhanced Convenient OCR for PDF Documents
The Convenient OCR (Optical Character Recognition) feature now allows you to 
recognize entire PDF documents. Convenient OCR was first introduced in JAWS 13 
and allows you to recognize any images visible on the screen in order to access 
text contained in the image that would normally be inaccessible to JAWS. This 
included inaccessible PDF documents where you could only recognize the 
currently visible text.

In JAWS 16, if you open a PDF document and you do not find any text to read, 
press INSERT+SPACEBAR, O to access the OCR layer and then press the letter D. 
JAWS begins recognizing the text of the entire document featuring a very high 
degree of accuracy as the results are not affected by the current screen 
resolution, as they are when recognizing the current screen or window. After 
several seconds, the contents of the PDF file are displayed in the Results 
Viewer for reading. Use standard reading commands to review the text or select 
and copy sections of content for pasting in other applications. For example, 
you could select all, then copy and paste into a Microsoft Word document, which 
you could then save.

Note: The OCR process takes longer for larger PDF files. As text is recognized, 
it is added to the end of the existing text already in the Results Viewer. This 
allows you to continue reading without interruption as the document is 
processed.

robin
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of simon wong
Sent: October 22, 2014 2:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Okay, well I can't really decide what John's vision I'm going to get, 
apparently that's up to whatever at the rehab center will get for me. And 
whatever they will cover. So I guess I'm out of luck there.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 4:02 PM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 A, okay, only JAWS 16 Beta will actually to OCR on a PDF document. That 
 is why you are having issues.
 So with JAWS 15 you can not read this document.
 robinl
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 1:57 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 I have Josh 15
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:03 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Okay, this PDF document ... Are you certain that if a sighted opened it up 
 they would see text and secondly are you running JAWS 16 Beta or which JAWS 
 are you running...
 robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 8:00 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Well either way the option doesn't work for me
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca wrote:
 
 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
 frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at least 
 the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Hi Robin,
 
 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
 document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, 
 we 
 know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, 
 then, 
 D.
 
 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
 the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
 readable text.
 
 Robin
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D

Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread Mike B.
Hi Simon,

There's a website called, Convert Files, that can convert the file for you 
into a text file.  But first, there's a link for a tutorial below that 
explains how to use the website:

http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Internet/ConvertFiles.mp3

Below is the URL for the website:

http://www.convertfiles.com/

HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: simon wong
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


Okay, well I can't really decide what John's vision I'm going to get, 
apparently that's up to whatever at the rehab center will get for me. And 
whatever they will cover. So I guess I'm out of luck there.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 4:02 PM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca 
 wrote:

 A, okay, only JAWS 16 Beta will actually to OCR on a PDF document. 
 That is why you are having issues.
 So with JAWS 15 you can not read this document.
 robinl

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 1:57 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

 I have Josh 15

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:03 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca 
 wrote:

 Okay, this PDF document ... Are you certain that if a sighted opened it 
 up they would see text and secondly are you running JAWS 16 Beta or which 
 JAWS are you running...
 robin

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 22, 2014 8:00 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

 Well either way the option doesn't work for me

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca 
 wrote:

 Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is 
 frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at 
 least the story I am sticking too!!
 Later...
 Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mike B.
 Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

 Hi Robin,

 1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty
 document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for
 document. It should then convert the text image into readable text. 
 But, we
 know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, 
 then,
 D.

 Take care.
 Mike
 This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

 - Original Message - 
 From: East, Robin
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


 Using JAWS 16 Beta...
 Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then 
 tap
 the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into
 readable text.

 Robin

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

 All it keeps saying to me is empty document.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for
 document
 recognition.

 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


 I have jaws 15 and it works here


 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
 On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein 
 jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending

 good luk

 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

 hi

Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-22 Thread Simon
I tried the link, it converted the file, but it put all sorts of symbols and 
letters and its barely readable with a screen reader, I will have the rehab 
centre for the blind here get rid of all that extra garbage thanks for the 
link.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Hi Simon,

There's a website called, Convert Files, that can convert the file for you
into a text file.  But first, there's a link for a tutorial below that
explains how to use the website:

http://www.jaws-users.com/audio/Internet/ConvertFiles.mp3

Below is the URL for the website:

http://www.convertfiles.com/

HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: simon wong

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


Okay, well I can't really decide what John's vision I'm going to get,
apparently that's up to whatever at the rehab center will get for me. And
whatever they will cover. So I guess I'm out of luck there.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 22, 2014, at 4:02 PM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca
wrote:

A, okay, only JAWS 16 Beta will actually to OCR on a PDF document.
That is why you are having issues.
So with JAWS 15 you can not read this document.
robinl

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: October 22, 2014 1:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

I have Josh 15

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On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:03 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca
wrote:

Okay, this PDF document ... Are you certain that if a sighted opened it
up they would see text and secondly are you running JAWS 16 Beta or which
JAWS are you running...
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: October 22, 2014 8:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Well either way the option doesn't work for me

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On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:48 AM, East, Robin robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca
wrote:

Mike, Yes you are correct and thank goodness for catching this. It is
frustrating when the mind works faster then the fingers... That is at
least the story I am sticking too!!
Later...
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: October 21, 2014 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Hi Robin,

1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty
document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for
document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.
But, we
know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O,
then,
D.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


Using JAWS 16 Beta...
Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then
tap
the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into
readable text.

Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

All it keeps saying to me is empty document.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:

Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank
OCR
document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for
document
recognition.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Janie Degenshein

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


I have jaws 15 and it works here


-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.

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On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM

Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-21 Thread Baracco, Andrew W
Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
wrote:
 
   insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-21 Thread Janie Degenshein

I have jaws 15 and it works here


-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r 


Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net

wrote:


  insert space bar and then o
that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending

good luk

-Original Message- From: Simon
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which

I cannot access.

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-21 Thread Steve
Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank OCR 
document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document 
recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for document 
recognition.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: Janie Degenshein
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


I have jaws 15 and it works here


-Original Message- 
From: Baracco, Andrew W
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
wrote:

   insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending

 good luk

 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-21 Thread simon wong
All it keeps saying to me is empty document.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank OCR 
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document 
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for document 
 recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-21 Thread East, Robin
Using JAWS 16 Beta...
Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the 
letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.

Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of simon wong
Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

All it keeps saying to me is empty document.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank OCR 
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document 
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for document 
 recognition.
 
 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 
 I have jaws 15 and it works here
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r
 
 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending
 
 good luk
 
 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r
 
 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

2014-10-21 Thread Mike B.
Hi Robin,

1 slight mistake  I know it was a typo.  You said, Once it says empty 
document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap the letter d for 
document. It should then convert the text image into readable text.  But, we 
know you meant to say to press the Jaws key + spacebar, then press, O, then, 
D.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: East, Robin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


Using JAWS 16 Beta...
Once it says empty document then do a JAWS key plus the letter O. Then tap 
the letter d for document. It should then convert the text image into 
readable text.

Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of simon wong
Sent: October 21, 2014 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

All it keeps saying to me is empty document.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Convenient OCR works in Jaws 15 of course, but if he is getting a blank 
 OCR
 document, which means it is an image, you need Jaws 16 for document
 recognition.  Jaws-key, with space, O for Convenient OCR, and D for 
 document
 recognition.

 Steve
 - Original Message - 
 From: Janie Degenshein
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r


 I have jaws 15 and it works here


 -Original Message- 
 From: Baracco, Andrew W
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 5:00 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [EXTERNAL] Re: convenient o c r

 Keep in mind that the document OCR only works with JAWS 16.

 Andy


 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of simon wong
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 1:52 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

 Does the document have to be opened? It's a PDF.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 21, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Janie Degenshein jdege...@comcast.net
 wrote:

  insert space bar and then o
 that will bring it up then either w or d or s depending

 good luk

 -Original Message- From: Simon
 Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:05 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] convenient o c r

 hi how do you use the convenient ocr feature? I have a document which
 I cannot access.
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
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