Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
Yup, pci is going the way of the old ISA long slots. The reason is PCIE or PCI-Express supports parallel communications at a faster rate than PCI, and are each on their own channel, so you don't have as many interrupts. - Original Message - From: Chris Hill hil...@earthlink.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed I don't know how else to put it, but you are confusing pci, an ancient technology that intel is trying to kill with pci express. There are many new pci express x1 cards that can easily fit in the pci express x16 slot instead of a video card. Just go over to newegg and search for something like a pci express sound card, you'll find them. I wouldn't buy much in the way of a plain pci card today, the next board you buy probably won't have more than one slot that will fit it. On 2/13/2013 13:47, tim wrote: On a 3.0 quad with 4mbg of ram. Used a GForce and a ATI graphic card both have almost the same specs. Found that the GForce card read more with jaws. In the graphic world ATI is on the low end of the scale for all bench marks to GForce. At 09:46 AM 2/13/2013, you wrote: Speech is likely slowing the machine down so much that it flat out doesn't matter what graphics card you use. Unless someone has actually benchmarked the machine with speech running and found a difference in graphics cards, I posit there isn't one. On 2/12/2013 20:17, tim wrote: Your not using it for speech. Your using it to handle a op that is highly graphic and the faster and smoother it runs. The less problems you get with speech. At 05:11 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: The important question to me is, if the video is in a special mode anyway because speech software is running, how much actual difference would it actually make. Has anyone tried running any test with speech enabled? I've always assumed a separate graphics card would be better, but frankly, I've never tested it. On 2/12/2013 15:54, tim wrote: I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
Typically, I just use the onboard card, you won't have any issues, as JAWS, and other screen access technology, use OSM, or there own mirror driver, to render video. - Original Message - From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed Yup, pci is going the way of the old ISA long slots. The reason is PCIE or PCI-Express supports parallel communications at a faster rate than PCI, and are each on their own channel, so you don't have as many interrupts. - Original Message - From: Chris Hill hil...@earthlink.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed I don't know how else to put it, but you are confusing pci, an ancient technology that intel is trying to kill with pci express. There are many new pci express x1 cards that can easily fit in the pci express x16 slot instead of a video card. Just go over to newegg and search for something like a pci express sound card, you'll find them. I wouldn't buy much in the way of a plain pci card today, the next board you buy probably won't have more than one slot that will fit it. On 2/13/2013 13:47, tim wrote: On a 3.0 quad with 4mbg of ram. Used a GForce and a ATI graphic card both have almost the same specs. Found that the GForce card read more with jaws. In the graphic world ATI is on the low end of the scale for all bench marks to GForce. At 09:46 AM 2/13/2013, you wrote: Speech is likely slowing the machine down so much that it flat out doesn't matter what graphics card you use. Unless someone has actually benchmarked the machine with speech running and found a difference in graphics cards, I posit there isn't one. On 2/12/2013 20:17, tim wrote: Your not using it for speech. Your using it to handle a op that is highly graphic and the faster and smoother it runs. The less problems you get with speech. At 05:11 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: The important question to me is, if the video is in a special mode anyway because speech software is running, how much actual difference would it actually make. Has anyone tried running any test with speech enabled? I've always assumed a separate graphics card would be better, but frankly, I've never tested it. On 2/12/2013 15:54, tim wrote: I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
Many thanks indeed to all for sharing there views. Just to be on the safe side, I'll go with the GForce 630m graphics card. Very Best Regards Waqas -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: 12 February 2013 22:21 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed I'd get it with the GForce only because you may want or even need it later, and since we're talking about a laptop, either you do it now or you'll be stuck with out it. I don't know, but I've been told you can't add it later and if this is true, I'd take the chance if I were you. As for Win 8, well you have your reasons, but again, I'd go with it. I have as a matter of fact and I love it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Waqas Chauhdry Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6100 - Release Date: 02/12/13 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
Speech is likely slowing the machine down so much that it flat out doesn't matter what graphics card you use. Unless someone has actually benchmarked the machine with speech running and found a difference in graphics cards, I posit there isn't one. On 2/12/2013 20:17, tim wrote: Your not using it for speech. Your using it to handle a op that is highly graphic and the faster and smoother it runs. The less problems you get with speech. At 05:11 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: The important question to me is, if the video is in a special mode anyway because speech software is running, how much actual difference would it actually make. Has anyone tried running any test with speech enabled? I've always assumed a separate graphics card would be better, but frankly, I've never tested it. On 2/12/2013 15:54, tim wrote: I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
Ah, that's an interesting idea. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed Speech is likely slowing the machine down so much that it flat out doesn't matter what graphics card you use. Unless someone has actually benchmarked the machine with speech running and found a difference in graphics cards, I posit there isn't one. On 2/12/2013 20:17, tim wrote: Your not using it for speech. Your using it to handle a op that is highly graphic and the faster and smoother it runs. The less problems you get with speech. At 05:11 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: The important question to me is, if the video is in a special mode anyway because speech software is running, how much actual difference would it actually make. Has anyone tried running any test with speech enabled? I've always assumed a separate graphics card would be better, but frankly, I've never tested it. On 2/12/2013 15:54, tim wrote: I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
On a 3.0 quad with 4mbg of ram. Used a GForce and a ATI graphic card both have almost the same specs. Found that the GForce card read more with jaws. In the graphic world ATI is on the low end of the scale for all bench marks to GForce. At 09:46 AM 2/13/2013, you wrote: Speech is likely slowing the machine down so much that it flat out doesn't matter what graphics card you use. Unless someone has actually benchmarked the machine with speech running and found a difference in graphics cards, I posit there isn't one. On 2/12/2013 20:17, tim wrote: Your not using it for speech. Your using it to handle a op that is highly graphic and the faster and smoother it runs. The less problems you get with speech. At 05:11 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: The important question to me is, if the video is in a special mode anyway because speech software is running, how much actual difference would it actually make. Has anyone tried running any test with speech enabled? I've always assumed a separate graphics card would be better, but frankly, I've never tested it. On 2/12/2013 15:54, tim wrote: I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
I don't know how else to put it, but you are confusing pci, an ancient technology that intel is trying to kill with pci express. There are many new pci express x1 cards that can easily fit in the pci express x16 slot instead of a video card. Just go over to newegg and search for something like a pci express sound card, you'll find them. I wouldn't buy much in the way of a plain pci card today, the next board you buy probably won't have more than one slot that will fit it. On 2/13/2013 13:47, tim wrote: On a 3.0 quad with 4mbg of ram. Used a GForce and a ATI graphic card both have almost the same specs. Found that the GForce card read more with jaws. In the graphic world ATI is on the low end of the scale for all bench marks to GForce. At 09:46 AM 2/13/2013, you wrote: Speech is likely slowing the machine down so much that it flat out doesn't matter what graphics card you use. Unless someone has actually benchmarked the machine with speech running and found a difference in graphics cards, I posit there isn't one. On 2/12/2013 20:17, tim wrote: Your not using it for speech. Your using it to handle a op that is highly graphic and the faster and smoother it runs. The less problems you get with speech. At 05:11 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: The important question to me is, if the video is in a special mode anyway because speech software is running, how much actual difference would it actually make. Has anyone tried running any test with speech enabled? I've always assumed a separate graphics card would be better, but frankly, I've never tested it. On 2/12/2013 15:54, tim wrote: I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
The important question to me is, if the video is in a special mode anyway because speech software is running, how much actual difference would it actually make. Has anyone tried running any test with speech enabled? I've always assumed a separate graphics card would be better, but frankly, I've never tested it. On 2/12/2013 15:54, tim wrote: I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
I'd get it with the GForce only because you may want or even need it later, and since we're talking about a laptop, either you do it now or you'll be stuck with out it. I don't know, but I've been told you can't add it later and if this is true, I'd take the chance if I were you. As for Win 8, well you have your reasons, but again, I'd go with it. I have as a matter of fact and I love it. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Waqas Chauhdry Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics card advice needed
Your not using it for speech. Your using it to handle a op that is highly graphic and the faster and smoother it runs. The less problems you get with speech. At 05:11 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: The important question to me is, if the video is in a special mode anyway because speech software is running, how much actual difference would it actually make. Has anyone tried running any test with speech enabled? I've always assumed a separate graphics card would be better, but frankly, I've never tested it. On 2/12/2013 15:54, tim wrote: I would use the GForce GT 630, because the more you take the load off the processor the faster everything will go regardless of how much ram. At 12:27 PM 2/12/2013, you wrote: Greetings I am buying a customised laptop from HP and have the choice of Intel HD 4000 or Gforce GT 630m 2GB graphics card. I'd really appreciate if someone with relevant knowledge can advise me which card may work better with Jaws? This is a HP DV6 model with I7 2.4 Intel quadcore processor, 8 GB RAM and a full HD display if any of these details matter. It comes recommended with Windows 8 but I am down grading to Windows 7. Very Best Regards Waqas For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics and labels
Hi RJ, Try the following; 1. Press Iinsert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard for the Settings Center. 2. Now, press control, shift, + D, for default all applications. 3. Type, graphics, into the search box, wait a couple of seconds for the list to populate, then arrow down to, graphics symbols, press enter. 4. Now, right arrow to open, arrow down to, Graphic Verbosity. 5. Press the spacebar until you hear Jaws report, labeled graphics, tab to okay , press enter to save your changes close the settings center. You can also do this in Jaws Options by doing the following; 1. From whatever application you are in, press Insert + V, for Jaws options. 2. Type, graphics, into the search box, wait a couple of seconds for the list to populate, then arrow down to, graphics, Press the spacebar to toggle through your options 3. Press the context / applications key, arrow down to make sure that, save the settings is checked, press enter on it if it isn't. 4. Now, tab to okay press enter. If I screwed these steps up in any way, someone please jump in straighten me out! Hope this helped. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: RJ To: Users Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics and labels Where in the setting can you get Jaw 13 to stop announcing the graphics and just the labels For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics and labels
Thanked Mike. - Original Message - From: Mike Barbara mb69ma...@charter.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics and labels Hi RJ, Try the following; 1. Press Iinsert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard for the Settings Center. 2. Now, press control, shift, + D, for default all applications. 3. Type, graphics, into the search box, wait a couple of seconds for the list to populate, then arrow down to, graphics symbols, press enter. 4. Now, right arrow to open, arrow down to, Graphic Verbosity. 5. Press the spacebar until you hear Jaws report, labeled graphics, tab to okay , press enter to save your changes close the settings center. You can also do this in Jaws Options by doing the following; 1. From whatever application you are in, press Insert + V, for Jaws options. 2. Type, graphics, into the search box, wait a couple of seconds for the list to populate, then arrow down to, graphics, Press the spacebar to toggle through your options 3. Press the context / applications key, arrow down to make sure that, save the settings is checked, press enter on it if it isn't. 4. Now, tab to okay press enter. If I screwed these steps up in any way, someone please jump in straighten me out! Hope this helped. Take care. Mike - Original Message - From: RJ To: Users Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 7:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics and labels Where in the setting can you get Jaw 13 to stop announcing the graphics and just the labels For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Graphics and labels
Where in the setting can you get Jaw 13 to stop announcing the graphics and just the labels For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] graphics question with Internet Explorer
I am using Windows 7, Jaws 11, and IE 9. I want the Jaws settings to show all graphics not tagged graphics when I open a website. Every page I open that I need a specific graphic to show I have to go in and change the setting from tagged graphics to show all graphics. I think it is the configuration manager that I need to set it for all my Internet Explorer pages but I am having a very hard time with this. I went to the default jaws settings in configuration manager and the choice for graphics is show all. I opened the Internet explorer.jcf configuration and it was already set to show all graphics. I did the save on that screen anyway but every page I open in Internet Explorer shows the graphics back to tagged only. I am beginning to think I should just go back to IE 8 although I was really excited when I actually got a Doctor Oz video to play the other day and then got one to play this morning. But I can't replicate what I did except that the link to start the video is a long string of letters and such that only shows up once in a while. I have spent hours and hours trying to figure out exact steps to play the videos. Very frustrating as I am really a Doctor Oz fan. If anyone knows how to make them play, I would love to know. The website is www.doctoroz.com. I also need more graphics to show up on my Facebook page and on some other sites. So how do I make I E 9 remember to show all graphics and not tagged graphics. Thanks, Sherrie Gosling For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] graphics question with Internet Explorer
Sharon, you may gain a lot of running a demo of JAWS 13 and trying the page. Sometimes the upgrades can enhance Internet Explorer functionality with different pages. Even if you don't plan to upgrade, you could run the demo and still get a little use of the latest version. It seems like you're doing the right thing with regards to setting graphics mode to All, so I don't know why the setting isn't holding. While on the site, press shift+insert+v, then press G until you reach the graphics options; space until you hear All, then press enter. That way, whatever the setting is in the configuration manager, it will be personalized for this page. More controvertially, you might want to try the page with www.satogo.com. I find several pages where I need to use System Access to read them fully, though I'm going to experiment, now that this has come up, to see if having all graphics spoken solves any of those problems. Dean -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Gosling Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:13 AM To: jaws Subject: [JAWS-Users] graphics question with Internet Explorer I am using Windows 7, Jaws 11, and IE 9. I want the Jaws settings to show all graphics not tagged graphics when I open a website. Every page I open that I need a specific graphic to show I have to go in and change the setting from tagged graphics to show all graphics. I think it is the configuration manager that I need to set it for all my Internet Explorer pages but I am having a very hard time with this. I went to the default jaws settings in configuration manager and the choice for graphics is show all. I opened the Internet explorer.jcf configuration and it was already set to show all graphics. I did the save on that screen anyway but every page I open in Internet Explorer shows the graphics back to tagged only. I am beginning to think I should just go back to IE 8 although I was really excited when I actually got a Doctor Oz video to play the other day and then got one to play this morning. But I can't replicate what I did except that the link to start the video is a long string of letters and such that only shows up once in a while. I have spent hours and hours trying to figure out exact steps to play the videos. Very frustrating as I am really a Doctor Oz fan. If anyone knows how to make them play, I would love to know. The website is www.doctoroz.com. I also need more graphics to show up on my Facebook page and on some other sites. So how do I make I E 9 remember to show all graphics and not tagged graphics. Thanks, Sherrie Gosling For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Graphics
Hi folks, When one encounters graphics on a screen represented by different numbers, is there a web site or somewhere to go to that defines these numbers? Thanks, Ann For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics
I do not think so. You might wish to find a sighted person and use graphiclabels to rename them.. Kind Regard Holger Fiallo - Original Message - From: Ann Marie Medlar amedl...@bellsouth.net To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics Hi folks, When one encounters graphics on a screen represented by different numbers, is there a web site or somewhere to go to that defines these numbers? Thanks, Ann For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics
haven't found one yet. If the programmer used standard controls. Then they are label by jaws. To see you can open the program and rout jaws to pc. Then put it on a graphic and do a insert + control + g to label them. If they used custom controls. Then you will have to get someone with sight to help label those graphics. By same above but insert + g. At 10:57 AM 5/23/2009, you wrote: Hi folks, When one encounters graphics on a screen represented by different numbers, is there a web site or somewhere to go to that defines these numbers? Thanks, Ann For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics
You can also try the Auto Graphics Labeler. To activate the Auto Graphics Labeler, open the desired application, and press CTRL+INSERT+G. Do not move the mouse or press any keys on the keyboard until JAWS states that the Auto Graphics Labeler is finished. soner çoban soner.b...@gmail.com wrote: hello, if you know that what those graphics are for, you can lable them by pressing CTRL+G when you are located on the related graphics. - Original Message - From: Ann Marie Medlar amedl...@bellsouth.net To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics Hi folks, When one encounters graphics on a screen represented by different numbers, is there a web site or somewhere to go to that defines these numbers? Thanks, Ann For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG
Okay what is it and will it help with a v g internet security package? Devona - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: Victor Gouveia ; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG It should still be on the scripts page. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Victor Gouveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG Hi All, I could have sworn I saw a graphics file for AVG and Jaws. Does this currently exist, and if so, where can I get it for download? I thought I had seen it on the Jaws user's web site, but I can't seem to find it there anymore. Victor Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG
It is not needed in the internet security package, only for the stand alone spy ware program. The package seems to have embedded anti spy ware in with the anti virus side and they run together. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Devona Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG Okay what is it and will it help with a v g internet security package? Devona - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: Victor Gouveia ; jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG It should still be on the scripts page. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Victor Gouveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG Hi All, I could have sworn I saw a graphics file for AVG and Jaws. Does this currently exist, and if so, where can I get it for download? I thought I had seen it on the Jaws user's web site, but I can't seem to find it there anymore. Victor Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG
Hi All, I could have sworn I saw a graphics file for AVG and Jaws. Does this currently exist, and if so, where can I get it for download? I thought I had seen it on the Jaws user's web site, but I can't seem to find it there anymore. Victor Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG
It should still be on the scripts page. David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Victor Gouveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG Hi All, I could have sworn I saw a graphics file for AVG and Jaws. Does this currently exist, and if so, where can I get it for download? I thought I had seen it on the Jaws user's web site, but I can't seem to find it there anymore. Victor Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG
Hi Victor, It's there, if memorey serves me, it's for the anti-spyware application. HTH, Richard Q. Justice-website owner www.blind-computing.com - Original Message - From: Victor Gouveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics file for AVG Hi All, I could have sworn I saw a graphics file for AVG and Jaws. Does this currently exist, and if so, where can I get it for download? I thought I had seen it on the Jaws user's web site, but I can't seem to find it there anymore. Victor Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics not recognized
Hi, Maybe you can move the mouse with the simulation keys. Either that or route jaws to pc and when the jaws cursor is on the graphic, press left mouse. I'm struggling with something like this myself. Linda Parent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics not recognized yeah make sure it's graphic xxx, where xxx is a number. not sure if the numbers are just random or if there's some kind of patern or something? thanks and hth! On 1/23/08, Denny Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure it's a graphic and not a button? Denny Huff Gateway FT Blind. LLC. (636) 262-1383 Having problems using Office 2007? Join the Office 2007 and screen readers help group by sending an email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Gateway To Independence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Galloway Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics not recognized Hi, I'm trying to use a database program that uses many graphics. I place the jaws currtsor on the graphic, but when I go to lable it Jaws says it is not on a graphic. I've had a sighted friend verify that I am on the graphic. If I press the left mouse button of Jaws, it performs the function of the graphic. I have set the verbosity to all graphics. I even tried having them identified automatically and Jaws didn't find any graphics. I'm using JFW 9.0 and Windows XP. Any ideas as to why Jaws won't recognize the sgraphics? Thanks! Mitch Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 4:59 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 4:59 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics not recognized
Hi Linda, Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but no luck. Jaws just says graphics 0 for all the graphics on the page. Strange thing is I have a different version of the database on my home computer and Jaws recognizes the graphics. I'm beginning to think that it is either the version of the database or the video card. Mitch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda Parent Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics not recognized Hi, Maybe you can move the mouse with the simulation keys. Either that or route jaws to pc and when the jaws cursor is on the graphic, press left mouse. I'm struggling with something like this myself. Linda Parent -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Roberts Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:26 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Graphics not recognized yeah make sure it's graphic xxx, where xxx is a number. not sure if the numbers are just random or if there's some kind of patern or something? thanks and hth! On 1/23/08, Denny Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure it's a graphic and not a button? Denny Huff Gateway FT Blind. LLC. (636) 262-1383 Having problems using Office 2007? Join the Office 2007 and screen readers help group by sending an email message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Gateway To Independence -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Galloway Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Graphics not recognized Hi, I'm trying to use a database program that uses many graphics. I place the jaws currtsor on the graphic, but when I go to lable it Jaws says it is not on a graphic. I've had a sighted friend verify that I am on the graphic. If I press the left mouse button of Jaws, it performs the function of the graphic. I have set the verbosity to all graphics. I even tried having them identified automatically and Jaws didn't find any graphics. I'm using JFW 9.0 and Windows XP. Any ideas as to why Jaws won't recognize the sgraphics? Thanks! Mitch Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 4:59 PM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 4:59 PM Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team
[JAWS-Users] Graphics not recognized
Hi, I'm trying to use a database program that uses many graphics. I place the jaws currtsor on the graphic, but when I go to lable it Jaws says it is not on a graphic. I've had a sighted friend verify that I am on the graphic. If I press the left mouse button of Jaws, it performs the function of the graphic. I have set the verbosity to all graphics. I even tried having them identified automatically and Jaws didn't find any graphics. I'm using JFW 9.0 and Windows XP. Any ideas as to why Jaws won't recognize the sgraphics? Thanks! Mitch Visit the JAWS Users List home page at: http://www.jaws-users.com Address for the list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To post to this group, send email to jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help from Mailman with your account Put the word help in the subject or body of a blank message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use the following form in order to contact the management team http://www.jaws-users.com/managers.php If you wish to join the Blind Computing list send a blank email to the following address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]