[JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Eric Damery]

All,
 
This afternoon, Freedom Scientific posted another free update to JAWS 10
release. This was a very minor adjustment addressing a few issues
outlined below. If you did have problems with the Check for Updates
feature installing the build 1139 update several weeks back, you may
wish to just go to the JAWS Download page and download the full version
and install over top of your current version 10. If the check for
updates worked well for you the last time, you should be able to use it
again now and get this latest patch.
 
The following is a list of items addressed between the JAWS 10.0.1139
update and the JAWS 10.0.1142 update.

*   The Yahoo Instant Messenger.jss script file has been updated and
included in JAWS 10 to provide support for the latest version of Yahoo!
Messenger 9. Make sure to download the latest Yahoo! Messenger for full
compatibility with JAWS 10. 
*   The message history in AOL Instant Messenger and the e-mail
messages in the Gmail Inbox are now visible to JAWS. Previously, the
virtual buffer would appear to be blank if you tried to read message
history or Inbox messages. 
*   When navigating through the Gmail Inbox, you can once again
select and open an e-mail message by pressing ENTER when focus is on the
text in the Subject column. In a previous release, it was necessary to
turn off the Virtual Cursor or use the JAWS cursor to open the e-mail
message. 
*   Resolved an issue related to certain Web pages with frames,
which, when updated, created a situation where JAWS would not read the
text present in the updated frame. This problem was reported for both
Gmail and the Webinar software used by the Freedom Scientific Training
department for the new Webinars
 ,
both free and paid, now being offered. 
*   The default JAWS dictionary file (default.jdf) has been updated
to include the correct pronunciation of two Russian symbols. 
*   In the JAWS help file, the Using the JAWS Cursor topic now
describes the Real Window and the Focus Window restriction options that
are available for the JAWS Cursor. Previously, this topic only mentioned
the Application Window, Current Window, Unrestricted, and Frame
restrictions. 

 
Regards,
Eric Damery
Vice President, Software Product Management
Freedom Scientific Inc.
11800 31st Court North
St. Petersburg, FL 33716-1805
Phone: 727-299-6110
Fax: 727-803-8001
edam...@freedomscientific.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[David Ferrin]

Thank you sir for the information regarding the update.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Damery" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th


All,

This afternoon, Freedom Scientific posted another free update to JAWS 10
release. This was a very minor adjustment addressing a few issues
outlined below. If you did have problems with the Check for Updates
feature installing the build 1139 update several weeks back, you may
wish to just go to the JAWS Download page and download the full version
and install over top of your current version 10. If the check for
updates worked well for you the last time, you should be able to use it
again now and get this latest patch.

The following is a list of items addressed between the JAWS 10.0.1139
update and the JAWS 10.0.1142 update.

* The Yahoo Instant Messenger.jss script file has been updated and
included in JAWS 10 to provide support for the latest version of Yahoo!
Messenger 9. Make sure to download the latest Yahoo! Messenger for full
compatibility with JAWS 10.
* The message history in AOL Instant Messenger and the e-mail
messages in the Gmail Inbox are now visible to JAWS. Previously, the
virtual buffer would appear to be blank if you tried to read message
history or Inbox messages.
* When navigating through the Gmail Inbox, you can once again
select and open an e-mail message by pressing ENTER when focus is on the
text in the Subject column. In a previous release, it was necessary to
turn off the Virtual Cursor or use the JAWS cursor to open the e-mail
message.
* Resolved an issue related to certain Web pages with frames,
which, when updated, created a situation where JAWS would not read the
text present in the updated frame. This problem was reported for both
Gmail and the Webinar software used by the Freedom Scientific Training
department for the new Webinars
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/e-LearningEntrance.asp> ,
both free and paid, now being offered.
* The default JAWS dictionary file (default.jdf) has been updated
to include the correct pronunciation of two Russian symbols.
* In the JAWS help file, the Using the JAWS Cursor topic now
describes the Real Window and the Focus Window restriction options that
are available for the JAWS Cursor. Previously, this topic only mentioned
the Application Window, Current Window, Unrestricted, and Frame
restrictions.


Regards,
Eric Damery
Vice President, Software Product Management
Freedom Scientific Inc.
11800 31st Court North
St. Petersburg, FL 33716-1805
Phone: 727-299-6110
Fax: 727-803-8001
edam...@freedomscientific.com




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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Victor]

Hi Eric,

Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys resolve the issue of 
the default.jss script file not being able to be compiled with the newest 
update?

Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went through the other 
week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs to send me a Windows 
Installer clean up tool to uninstall Jaws.

Can you please shed some light on this?


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[allen dunbar]

hi victor I don't think Eric or any other fs are subscribed to this list you 
will need to a mail him direct at fs or at the address given in his 
informational post



good luck


Allen Dunbar
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From: "Victor" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th



Hi Eric,

Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys resolve the issue of
the default.jss script file not being able to be compiled with the newest
update?

Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went through the other
week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs to send me a Windows
Installer clean up tool to uninstall Jaws.

Can you please shed some light on this?


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[David Ferrin]

Actually Eric has been on here for quite a long while already.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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From: "allen dunbar" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th


hi victor I don't think Eric or any other fs are subscribed to this list you
will need to a mail him direct at fs or at the address given in his
informational post


good luck


Allen Dunbar
- Original Message - 
From: "Victor" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th


> Hi Eric,
>
> Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys resolve the issue of
> the default.jss script file not being able to be compiled with the newest
> update?
>
> Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went through the other
> week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs to send me a Windows
> Installer clean up tool to uninstall Jaws.
>
> Can you please shed some light on this?
>
>
> Victor
> Co-moderator
> Blind Movie Buffs List
> Guidedogs List
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[allen dunbar]

oops sorry I thought I had read that no one from fs was on the list I stand 
corrected



Allen
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From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th



Actually Eric has been on here for quite a long while already.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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From: "Allen dunbar" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th


hi victor I don't think Eric or any other fs are subscribed to this list 
you

will need to a mail him direct at fs or at the address given in his
informational post


good luck


Allen Dunbar
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From: "Victor" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th



Hi Eric,

Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys resolve the issue 
of

the default.jss script file not being able to be compiled with the newest
update?

Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went through the 
other

week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs to send me a Windows
Installer clean up tool to uninstall Jaws.

Can you please shed some light on this?


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Eric Damery]

Hi Victor,

It sounds as if the Windows Installer on your system had gotten into a
state where things stopped working has they should. This can happen,
especially when files are modified over time which can happen when
editing or modifying existing scripts like default. When this does
happen, it is generally more difficult to undo what went wrong, then
just cleaning it and starting over.

There were quite a few people on the list serves that had issues with
the Check for Updates feature but overall, the update process went very
smoothly for the most. I'm sure this one will go smoother for you since
the support guys helped you clean up the WinInstaller and registry
entries associated with it.

Regards,
Eric

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

Hi Eric,

Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys resolve the issue
of the default.jss script file not being able to be compiled with the
newest update?

Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went through the
other week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs to send me a
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Can you please shed some light on this?


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Victor]

Hi Eric,

AS a matter of fact, it wasn't the installer that gave me the most problems, 
it was the fact that the default.jss script file wouldn't compile.

As a result, I attempted to re-install Jaws in order to create a fresh 
install environment for Jaws on my system, however, as it were, things went 
horribly wrong, although not at all because of Jaws, probably, and I suspect 
this the most, because of user error, however, what caused the user error 
was a result of the original Jaws problem.  LOL.

I believe I wrote to the list requesting help for this problem, but I'm not 
sure if you saw it at the time.

If you would like more detailed information, I can write you off list and 
let you know what happened.

Thanks for getting back to me.


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Chase Crispin]

Hello Eric,
Have you guys fixed the problem ware JFW double speaks everything in Microsoft 
Office Applications?
Thanks,

Chase

  - Original Message - 
  From: Eric Damery 
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th


  Hi Victor,

  It sounds as if the Windows Installer on your system had gotten into a
  state where things stopped working has they should. This can happen,
  especially when files are modified over time which can happen when
  editing or modifying existing scripts like default. When this does
  happen, it is generally more difficult to undo what went wrong, then
  just cleaning it and starting over.

  There were quite a few people on the list serves that had issues with
  the Check for Updates feature but overall, the update process went very
  smoothly for the most. I'm sure this one will go smoother for you since
  the support guys helped you clean up the WinInstaller and registry
  entries associated with it.

  Regards,
  Eric

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  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victor
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:42 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

  Hi Eric,

  Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys resolve the issue
  of the default.jss script file not being able to be compiled with the
  newest update?

  Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went through the
  other week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs to send me a
  Windows Installer clean up tool to uninstall Jaws.

  Can you please shed some light on this?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Eric Damery]

Hi Victor,

Please write me off list Victor and let me know who you worked with in
support. I'd like to check with them as well. I'm quite certain this is
a result of modifications/additions being make to the shipping scripts
at some point since the first install of JAWS 10. This causes 90% of the
issues when new versions are released as an update in the future.

BTW, while I do belong to the list, I can't keep up with the amount of
traffic (and still get my job done ). As a result, I tend to avoid
writing the list directly to avoid getting into to many threads. In most
cases, including this one, the best solution is to contact our support
staff right away and work through it with them. I meet with that team
once a week to discuss what customers are struggling with so we can
focus on the most pressing issues for updates and new releases.

Regards,
Eric

-Original Message-
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victor
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

Hi Eric,

AS a matter of fact, it wasn't the installer that gave me the most
problems, it was the fact that the default.jss script file wouldn't
compile.

As a result, I attempted to re-install Jaws in order to create a fresh
install environment for Jaws on my system, however, as it were, things
went horribly wrong, although not at all because of Jaws, probably, and
I suspect this the most, because of user error, however, what caused the
user error was a result of the original Jaws problem.  LOL.

I believe I wrote to the list requesting help for this problem, but I'm
not sure if you saw it at the time.

If you would like more detailed information, I can write you off list
and let you know what happened.

Thanks for getting back to me.


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Eric Damery]

Please call support. Something is going on with your system or JAWS
install for this to be happening.
Eric 

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Chase
Crispin
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

Hello Eric,
Have you guys fixed the problem ware JFW double speaks everything in
Microsoft Office Applications?
Thanks,

Chase

  - Original Message -
  From: Eric Damery
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th


  Hi Victor,

  It sounds as if the Windows Installer on your system had gotten into a
  state where things stopped working has they should. This can happen,
  especially when files are modified over time which can happen when
  editing or modifying existing scripts like default. When this does
  happen, it is generally more difficult to undo what went wrong, then
  just cleaning it and starting over.

  There were quite a few people on the list serves that had issues with
  the Check for Updates feature but overall, the update process went
very
  smoothly for the most. I'm sure this one will go smoother for you
since
  the support guys helped you clean up the WinInstaller and registry
  entries associated with it.

  Regards,
  Eric

  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Victor
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:42 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

  Hi Eric,

  Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys resolve the
issue
  of the default.jss script file not being able to be compiled with the
  newest update?

  Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went through the
  other week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs to send me a
  Windows Installer clean up tool to uninstall Jaws.

  Can you please shed some light on this?


  Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Larry Stansifer]

Eric,

This issue is nothing new, it has been occurring to a
greater or lesser degree beginning about JFW version 4.5.
My own experience is that it happens more frequently in
Outlook, Excel and PowerPoint.
I am currently running Jaws 9.latest, Windows XP-Pro and
Office xp Professional and the malady continues.
BTW tech support is clueless.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Eric Damery
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted
March 30th


Please call support. Something is going on with your system
or JAWS install for this to be happening. Eric 

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Chase Crispin
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted
March 30th

Hello Eric,
Have you guys fixed the problem ware JFW double speaks
everything in Microsoft Office Applications? Thanks,

Chase

  - Original Message -
  From: Eric Damery
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted
March 30th


  Hi Victor,

  It sounds as if the Windows Installer on your system had
gotten into a
  state where things stopped working has they should. This
can happen,
  especially when files are modified over time which can
happen when
  editing or modifying existing scripts like default. When
this does
  happen, it is generally more difficult to undo what went
wrong, then
  just cleaning it and starting over.

  There were quite a few people on the list serves that had
issues with
  the Check for Updates feature but overall, the update
process went very
  smoothly for the most. I'm sure this one will go smoother
for you since
  the support guys helped you clean up the WinInstaller and
registry
  entries associated with it.

  Regards,
  Eric

  -Original Message-
  From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
  [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Victor
  Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:42 PM
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted
March 30th

  Hi Eric,

  Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys
resolve the issue
  of the default.jss script file not being able to be
compiled with the
  newest update?

  Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went
through the
  other week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs
to send me a
  Windows Installer clean up tool to uninstall Jaws.

  Can you please shed some light on this?


  Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Greg]

Hello Eric,
I have had this problem since JAWS 9.  I called tech support about it and 
they had no clue.  I have noticed it in any microsoft application including 
Internet explorer.

Sincerely,
Greg W.
- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Stansifer" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th



Eric,

This issue is nothing new, it has been occurring to a
greater or lesser degree beginning about JFW version 4.5.
My own experience is that it happens more frequently in
Outlook, Excel and PowerPoint.
I am currently running Jaws 9.latest, Windows XP-Pro and
Office xp Professional and the malady continues.
BTW tech support is clueless.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Eric Damery
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 6:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted
March 30th


Please call support. Something is going on with your system
or JAWS install for this to be happening. Eric

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Chase Crispin
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted
March 30th

Hello Eric,
Have you guys fixed the problem ware JFW double speaks
everything in Microsoft Office Applications? Thanks,

Chase

 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Damery
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 4:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted
March 30th


 Hi Victor,

 It sounds as if the Windows Installer on your system had
gotten into a
 state where things stopped working has they should. This
can happen,
 especially when files are modified over time which can
happen when
 editing or modifying existing scripts like default. When
this does
 happen, it is generally more difficult to undo what went
wrong, then
 just cleaning it and starting over.

 There were quite a few people on the list serves that had
issues with
 the Check for Updates feature but overall, the update
process went very
 smoothly for the most. I'm sure this one will go smoother
for you since
 the support guys helped you clean up the WinInstaller and
registry
 entries associated with it.

 Regards,
 Eric

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Victor
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:42 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted
March 30th

 Hi Eric,

 Not sure if you'll get this message, but did you guys
resolve the issue
 of the default.jss script file not being able to be
compiled with the
 newest update?

 Just wondering as I don't want to go through what I went
through the
 other week with Jaws where I had to get one of your techs
to send me a
 Windows Installer clean up tool to uninstall Jaws.

 Can you please shed some light on this?


 Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[matthew desktop]

Hi Earic,  Are there poans to fix the check for updates  feature?  I hope
this will be fixed in a future update I  think that if it is something that
can not be fixed, then it should be removed.  I hate going through the
proses of going to the site to install it,  I would hope that this will be
fixed.  Thanks.

Matthew






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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 4:07 PM
To: edam...@freedomscientific.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

All,
 
This afternoon, Freedom Scientific posted another free update to JAWS 10
release. This was a very minor adjustment addressing a few issues
outlined below. If you did have problems with the Check for Updates
feature installing the build 1139 update several weeks back, you may
wish to just go to the JAWS Download page and download the full version
and install over top of your current version 10. If the check for
updates worked well for you the last time, you should be able to use it
again now and get this latest patch.
 
The following is a list of items addressed between the JAWS 10.0.1139
update and the JAWS 10.0.1142 update.

*   The Yahoo Instant Messenger.jss script file has been updated and
included in JAWS 10 to provide support for the latest version of Yahoo!
Messenger 9. Make sure to download the latest Yahoo! Messenger for full
compatibility with JAWS 10. 
*   The message history in AOL Instant Messenger and the e-mail
messages in the Gmail Inbox are now visible to JAWS. Previously, the
virtual buffer would appear to be blank if you tried to read message
history or Inbox messages. 
*   When navigating through the Gmail Inbox, you can once again
select and open an e-mail message by pressing ENTER when focus is on the
text in the Subject column. In a previous release, it was necessary to
turn off the Virtual Cursor or use the JAWS cursor to open the e-mail
message. 
*   Resolved an issue related to certain Web pages with frames,
which, when updated, created a situation where JAWS would not read the
text present in the updated frame. This problem was reported for both
Gmail and the Webinar software used by the Freedom Scientific Training
department for the new Webinars
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/e-LearningEntrance.asp> ,
both free and paid, now being offered. 
*   The default JAWS dictionary file (default.jdf) has been updated
to include the correct pronunciation of two Russian symbols. 
*   In the JAWS help file, the Using the JAWS Cursor topic now
describes the Real Window and the Focus Window restriction options that
are available for the JAWS Cursor. Previously, this topic only mentioned
the Application Window, Current Window, Unrestricted, and Frame
restrictions. 

 
Regards,
Eric Damery
Vice President, Software Product Management
Freedom Scientific Inc.
11800 31st Court North
St. Petersburg, FL 33716-1805
Phone: 727-299-6110
Fax: 727-803-8001
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Grant Hardy]

Hi Eric and list,

Firstly, let me say that I am quite pleased with this update because the
standard version of Gmail, which already worked quite well indeed with JAWS
10, now works a lot better, so thank you!

There are just a few issues I am still having with Gmail.  I'll try to get
them into FS technical support tonight but thought I would post them here in
case others can reproduce them.

1. In a message list with two or more messages, JAWS doesn't seem to
navigate properly using the standard table reading commands.  For example,
if you are on a message subject and press CTRL+ALT+DOWN ARROW, which would
normally move to the next row down, JAWS will say, "bottom of column", even
if, in fact, it's not the bottom of the column.  It is therefore necessary
to use some other means of navigation to move between your messages.
2. Occasionally focus is not retained properly in the rich edit field, when
you are composing a message.  For example, a say line could read some
additional text from the left-hand column of the page in addition to part of
the message you're composing.  Generally, going out and back into forms mode
solves the problem.
3. I have noticed that while ARIA notifications are announced when using the
latest beta of Firefox, they do not seem to be announced in Internet
Explorer 8.

Apart from those issues, however, I am quite impressed with JAWS'
performance with Gmail.  Keep up the great work!

Grant
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Victor]

Hi Grant,

Your issue with the control+alt+down arrow happens with me on occasion also, 
but not only on Gmail web pages, also on any page utilizing a data table.

I just get to a spot, and it won't go down any further.

On some occasions, if I try to go up, it won't go either, or left or right, 
so I'm not sure what the problem is, as I have checked all my settings and 
just attributed it to a bug with Jaws.

Just so you know that I am able to duplicate it on my system running Jaws 
10, latest build, Windows XP Home and IE 7.


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Ken Buxton]

Hi there everyone from Ken Buxton here;  I have jaws 10.0 and have a problem 
with reading my e mail, and sometimes reading other things such as on sites 
ETC.  Does anyone else have this problem?  Ken B
- Original Message - 
From: "Victor" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th



Hi Grant,

Your issue with the control+alt+down arrow happens with me on occasion 
also,

but not only on Gmail web pages, also on any page utilizing a data table.

I just get to a spot, and it won't go down any further.

On some occasions, if I try to go up, it won't go either, or left or 
right,

so I'm not sure what the problem is, as I have checked all my settings and
just attributed it to a bug with Jaws.

Just so you know that I am able to duplicate it on my system running Jaws
10, latest build, Windows XP Home and IE 7.


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[David Whitehead]

Hello there;

can you give us a little more description on the problem your asking about?

perhaps give an example?

with reading my e mail, and sometimes reading other things such as on sites

ETC.

is a little vague
- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Buxton" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th


Hi there everyone from Ken Buxton here;  I have jaws 10.0 and have a 
problem with reading my e mail, and sometimes reading other things such as 
on sites ETC.  Does anyone else have this problem?  Ken B
- Original Message - 
From: "Victor" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th



Hi Grant,

Your issue with the control+alt+down arrow happens with me on occasion 
also,

but not only on Gmail web pages, also on any page utilizing a data table.

I just get to a spot, and it won't go down any further.

On some occasions, if I try to go up, it won't go either, or left or 
right,
so I'm not sure what the problem is, as I have checked all my settings 
and

just attributed it to a bug with Jaws.

Just so you know that I am able to duplicate it on my system running Jaws
10, latest build, Windows XP Home and IE 7.


Victor
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Paul Tandy]

Hi all, I'm trying to connect to the internet with my Windows 
computer.


It will not connect.  However, if I try to connect via my 
Braillenote, it works fine.


If this isn't a JAWS related question, I apologize.

Thanks for your help:

Paul

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th

[Ken Buxton]

OK, David; when reading with jaws 10.0, when I am rading my o e, mail that 
is, jaws reads only so many e mails, then for some strange reason jaws gives 
up the ghost for about 3 or 4 seconds then it resumes the reading of mail 
againk, and so on down my e mail list for a few then again it goes off once 
*the jaws that is*  the same is true when I try to read things on the 
various sites it reads for a minute,then there it goes again disappearing 
for about 4 seconds.  I think it's jaws that is the culpritbut what do I do 
next?  If there is no answer, I'll phone jaws to see if anyone else is 
having the same problem.  TXS for any suggestions. Ken b
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From: "David Whitehead" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th



Hello there;

can you give us a little more description on the problem your asking 
about?


perhaps give an example?

with reading my e mail, and sometimes reading other things such as on 
sites

ETC.

is a little vague
- Original Message - 
From: "Ken Buxton" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th


Hi there everyone from Ken Buxton here;  I have jaws 10.0 and have a 
problem with reading my e mail, and sometimes reading other things such 
as on sites ETC.  Does anyone else have this problem?  Ken B
- Original Message - 
From: "Victor" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 10.0.1142 update was posted March 30th



Hi Grant,

Your issue with the control+alt+down arrow happens with me on occasion 
also,
but not only on Gmail web pages, also on any page utilizing a data 
table.


I just get to a spot, and it won't go down any further.

On some occasions, if I try to go up, it won't go either, or left or 
right,
so I'm not sure what the problem is, as I have checked all my settings 
and

just attributed it to a bug with Jaws.

Just so you know that I am able to duplicate it on my system running 
Jaws

10, latest build, Windows XP Home and IE 7.


Victor
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