Re: [JAWS-Users] Misspelled Words, JAWS, Finnish and Smileys

2007-10-08 Thread Flor Lynch
Hi Jyrki,

You can use smile or grin or g, or LOL [acronym for Laughing Out 
Loud], et al., in their word forms.  that way,
the message is understood by everybody, whatever program they're using:
smile.

- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 2:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Misspelled Words, JAWS, Finnish and Smileys


Oh, I am *very* sorry about some misspelled words in my last message, but
I never proofread it. But they could 'look' quite funny when using JAWS
with any synthesizer. But Eloquence with JAWS or some other synthesizer is
a very good proofreader, but only if the language used is supported like
Finnish, for instance. But reading Finnish with American or Brittish
English checked could be too funny to cope with, and that happened me
while doing some Business English exercises for my present school, and I
had to stop working for a while because of un-controlled laughing!

And finally: Should smileys bee used on that list at all, or do they only
make the reading of messages more confusing? Or could they be replaced
with something like smile or be totally avoided? But perhaps reading
Finnish with English checked is too funny to describe with any smiley?

Regards,

Jyrki Voutilainen

- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Cc: Lauri Hallikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death etc.


 Very many thanks to you, David Griffith, for your very helpful
 information
 below.

 I can tell you all that the blue screen problem is solved by that time
 by
 installing another display driver on the computer mentioned, but the
 information you gave could be *very* helpful in a situation like that in
 the future, and a also have plans to update my own laptop after
 3-4-year-usage of my present one, and I still hav a well-working desktop
 here in my home office.

 I would -by the way - *never* use only a laptop, not even a good one,
 for
 all my work, but have a desktop-laptop-network instead. I workd maby two
 years having only a laptop in usage, but that became very frustrating a)
 because of lacking peripheral connections, b) because of unusable
 integrated audio hardware in that particular model etc. And then there
 is
 the maintenance as a whole; in a desktop you can update almost every
 single unit of the hardware if needed, but not in a laptop. But if
 having
 a well customized desktop in usage all the time, the problematic issues
 in
 your laptop aren't so hard to cope with, because you still have a
 hopefully well-functioning computer in usage. But in the earlier days
 having more than one computer in usage was more rare because of higher
 hardware prices than nowadays. Today a well-funcioning basic desktop
 unit
 can be set up by approcimately 400 euros, but using the cheapest
 hardware
 parts. That unit could be used as a testing unit, for instance, and you
 could still do your main work using your main unit built of better
 components. Perhaps you still may prefer to use a separate soundcard or
 display adapter instead of an integrated one etc. But why use any
 expensive parts if the unit is beeing used for some test or server
 purposes only?

 Have any of you - by the way - noticed any difference in JAWS's behavior
 when using integrated soundcards and display adapters compared to using
 separate ones? My friend mentioned is an audiophile and deals with
 professional audio software, and he usis, of course, a separate
 soundcard
 like AVE64 or something like that, but I am not as much involved in that
 than he is. But even I am using something else than basic loudspeakers
 and
 headphones in my setup.

 Best regards,

 Jyrki Voutilainen

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death


 In ;my experience blue screen are more often than  not Video driver
 issues.

 This can be very hard to correct and in the worst case scenarios I have
 had
 to reinstall windows itself to avoid these problems.

 Before this drastic step you could try the following.
 1. Go to the web site of your video card manufacturer and download the
 latest driver and install this. You may have to repair or reinstall
 Jaws
 after this. Unfortunately some video driver setups and their websites
 may
 not be fully accessible and you may need sighted help but you could
 have
 a
 go.

 2. If this does not work then reduce hardware acceleration on your
 video
 card to 80%. I have found Jaws works on my system at 80% but no lower
 and
 this can greatly reduce blue screen crashes.

 To reduce hardware acceleration on XP Pro

 1. Go to Control Panel
 2. Go to Display
 3. Press Control Tab until you get to Settings Tab.
 4. Tab until you get

[JAWS-Users] Misspelled Words, JAWS, Finnish and Smileys

2007-10-07 Thread Jyrki Voutilainen
Oh, I am *very* sorry about some misspelled words in my last message, but 
I never proofread it. But they could 'look' quite funny when using JAWS 
with any synthesizer. But Eloquence with JAWS or some other synthesizer is 
a very good proofreader, but only if the language used is supported like 
Finnish, for instance. But reading Finnish with American or Brittish 
English checked could be too funny to cope with, and that happened me 
while doing some Business English exercises for my present school, and I 
had to stop working for a while because of un-controlled laughing!

And finally: Should smileys bee used on that list at all, or do they only 
make the reading of messages more confusing? Or could they be replaced 
with something like smile or be totally avoided? But perhaps reading 
Finnish with English checked is too funny to describe with any smiley?

Regards,

Jyrki Voutilainen

- Original Message - 
From: Jyrki Voutilainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Cc: Lauri Hallikainen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death etc.


 Very many thanks to you, David Griffith, for your very helpful 
 information
 below.

 I can tell you all that the blue screen problem is solved by that time 
 by
 installing another display driver on the computer mentioned, but the
 information you gave could be *very* helpful in a situation like that in
 the future, and a also have plans to update my own laptop after
 3-4-year-usage of my present one, and I still hav a well-working desktop
 here in my home office.

 I would -by the way - *never* use only a laptop, not even a good one, 
 for
 all my work, but have a desktop-laptop-network instead. I workd maby two
 years having only a laptop in usage, but that became very frustrating a)
 because of lacking peripheral connections, b) because of unusable
 integrated audio hardware in that particular model etc. And then there 
 is
 the maintenance as a whole; in a desktop you can update almost every
 single unit of the hardware if needed, but not in a laptop. But if 
 having
 a well customized desktop in usage all the time, the problematic issues 
 in
 your laptop aren't so hard to cope with, because you still have a
 hopefully well-functioning computer in usage. But in the earlier days
 having more than one computer in usage was more rare because of higher
 hardware prices than nowadays. Today a well-funcioning basic desktop 
 unit
 can be set up by approcimately 400 euros, but using the cheapest 
 hardware
 parts. That unit could be used as a testing unit, for instance, and you
 could still do your main work using your main unit built of better
 components. Perhaps you still may prefer to use a separate soundcard or
 display adapter instead of an integrated one etc. But why use any
 expensive parts if the unit is beeing used for some test or server
 purposes only?

 Have any of you - by the way - noticed any difference in JAWS's behavior
 when using integrated soundcards and display adapters compared to using
 separate ones? My friend mentioned is an audiophile and deals with
 professional audio software, and he usis, of course, a separate 
 soundcard
 like AVE64 or something like that, but I am not as much involved in that
 than he is. But even I am using something else than basic loudspeakers 
 and
 headphones in my setup.

 Best regards,

 Jyrki Voutilainen

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Griffith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 8 and blue screen of Death


 In ;my experience blue screen are more often than  not Video driver
 issues.

 This can be very hard to correct and in the worst case scenarios I have
 had
 to reinstall windows itself to avoid these problems.

 Before this drastic step you could try the following.
 1. Go to the web site of your video card manufacturer and download the
 latest driver and install this. You may have to repair or reinstall 
 Jaws
 after this. Unfortunately some video driver setups and their websites
 may
 not be fully accessible and you may need sighted help but you could 
 have
 a
 go.

 2. If this does not work then reduce hardware acceleration on your 
 video
 card to 80%. I have found Jaws works on my system at 80% but no lower
 and
 this can greatly reduce blue screen crashes.

 To reduce hardware acceleration on XP Pro

 1. Go to Control Panel
 2. Go to Display
 3. Press Control Tab until you get to Settings Tab.
 4. Tab until you get to Advanced.
 5. Control Tab until you get to Troubleshooting page.
 6. Press Tab until you hear Hardware Acceleration and left right
 slider.
 7. Use your left cursor key to reduce Hardware Acceleration to 80%.
 7. Tab to OK and keep on pressing OK to close display settings.

 NB some video drivers insert their own troubleshooting tab under 
 display
 but
 I have found it better to use the