[JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
You can buy a new computer that comes with windows 10. There are many pc's out there that are much faster than yours. - Original Message - From: "Fred Adams" I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
I do not need to buy a new computer as I have a very good computer that I could upgrade to W10 but I am not interested. The old computer that I have and thinking of upgrading is also a fast computer.The Microsoft technician commented on how fast it is. Thanks for the advice anyway. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of petras Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade You can buy a new computer that comes with windows 10. There are many pc's out there that are much faster than yours. - Original Message - From: "Fred Adams" http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
I do not have any interest inW10 at present but maybe later on this year I might change my mind. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
I'm afraid that isn't the only way to fix the issue. You can always download the Windows 10 setup file, and do a clean install of the OS, which involves re-formatting your hard drive to that nothing is on the drive when you finally install Windows 10. I am also having this issue, so it may be that the tech guy you spoke to is trying to pawn Windows 8.1 off on you because he knows he can't make any money if you upgrade to Windows 10. If you have sighted help, then do it this way, which is what I'm gearing up to do, as I'm backing up all my files now. If you do not have sighted help, download the Windows unattended setup from somewhere, and use that. I'm sorry, I don't have a link for you since I do have sighted help to assist me in the install, but I'm sure you can Google Windows unattended Installation and you'll be good to go. What ever you do, don't give into your tech guy telling you have to upgrade to Windows 8.1, that's just ridiculous on it's face. Good luck. Scorpio -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade You can buy a new computer that comes with windows 10. There are many pc's out there that are much faster than yours. - Original Message - From: "Fred Adams" http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke about in my last message. I'm not quite sure why this is the case. I'm thinking that maybe there may be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out. Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is actually a working theory I've come up with. I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again. Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch for an update tomorrow at some point. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
unattended windows 7 installation http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-create-unattended-windows-7-installation-setup/ -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 3:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I do not have any interest inW10 at present but maybe later on this year I might change my mind. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
Hi Fred, I think you should know that if your computer can run Windows 8.1, then it should have no problem running Windows 10, as it's the most slimmed down version of Windows I've ever seen thus far from them, especially when you take into account all the features it currently possesses. The computer I'm upgrading is a Windows 7, 32 bit computer, and it is about 7 years old, and I should know, since I built the monster myself. LOL. In any case, Windows 10 will give you less of a learning curve from 7 to 10, not to mention handling your resources much more effectively. What ever you decide to do, good luck. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I do not have any interest inW10 at present but maybe later on this year I might change my mind. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
well I'm sorry. just trying to help by doing some searching for you guys! -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke about in my last message. I'm not quite sure why this is the case. I'm thinking that maybe there may be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out. Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is actually a working theory I've come up with. I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again. Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch for an update tomorrow at some point. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
if you are having troubles updating on windows 7, I had that problem too I fixed it by in the windows search box type services the updates are tied into the security center I found a blog about how to fix it it does not explain how to do it with the keyboard but I'm sure you can do it. sorry I don't remember how I did it. Windows 7 and Windows Vista Click Start. In the Start search box, type services. In the Programs list, click Services. 2. In the details pane, right-click (or tap and hold) Security Center, and then tap or click Properties. 3. In the Startup type list, tap or click Automatic (Delayed Start). 4. The screen shot for Security Center Properties dialog box In the Service Status area, tap or click Start. Notes If the service starts successfully, tap or click Apply, tap or click OK, and then close the Services window. If you receive an error message that resembles the following message when you click Start, go to step 6 to reconfigure the log on user for the service: "Windows could not start the Security Center service on Local Computer. Error 1079: The account specified for this service differs from the account specified for other services running in the same process." 5. In the Security Center Properties dialog box, tap or click the Log On tab, and then tap or click Browse. 6. In the Enter the object name to select box, type your computer name. 7. Tap or click Check Names, and then tap or click OK when the name is authenticated. 8. In the Password box, type the administrator password. 9. In the Confirm password box, retype the administrator password. 10. Tap or click Apply, and then tap or click OK. 11. Close the Services window." -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke about in my last message. I'm not quite sure why this is the case. I'm thinking that maybe there may be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out. Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is actually a working theory I've come up with. I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again. Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch for an update tomorrow at some point. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
Hi Kevin, What exactly did I say wrong that you felt you needed to apologize? I was just outlining that the method you were outlining wasn't any more successful then the original method suggested. I'm sorry if you took offence to it. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade well I'm sorry. just trying to help by doing some searching for you guys! -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke about in my last message. I'm not quite sure why this is the case. I'm thinking that maybe there may be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out. Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is actually a working theory I've come up with. I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again. Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch for an update tomorrow at some point. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
I'll definitely give this a try. It looks promising. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 10:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade if you are having troubles updating on windows 7, I had that problem too I fixed it by in the windows search box type services the updates are tied into the security center I found a blog about how to fix it it does not explain how to do it with the keyboard but I'm sure you can do it. sorry I don't remember how I did it. Windows 7 and Windows Vista Click Start. In the Start search box, type services. In the Programs list, click Services. 2. In the details pane, right-click (or tap and hold) Security Center, and then tap or click Properties. 3. In the Startup type list, tap or click Automatic (Delayed Start). 4. The screen shot for Security Center Properties dialog box In the Service Status area, tap or click Start. Notes If the service starts successfully, tap or click Apply, tap or click OK, and then close the Services window. If you receive an error message that resembles the following message when you click Start, go to step 6 to reconfigure the log on user for the service: "Windows could not start the Security Center service on Local Computer. Error 1079: The account specified for this service differs from the account specified for other services running in the same process." 5. In the Security Center Properties dialog box, tap or click the Log On tab, and then tap or click Browse. 6. In the Enter the object name to select box, type your computer name. 7. Tap or click Check Names, and then tap or click OK when the name is authenticated. 8. In the Password box, type the administrator password. 9. In the Confirm password box, retype the administrator password. 10. Tap or click Apply, and then tap or click OK. 11. Close the Services window." -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke about in my last message. I'm not quite sure why this is the case. I'm thinking that maybe there may be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out. Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is actually a working theory I've come up with. I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again. Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch for an update tomorrow at some point. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
oh nothing I am just sorry a guy of your computer expertise is having problems! -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 7:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade Hi Kevin, What exactly did I say wrong that you felt you needed to apologize? I was just outlining that the method you were outlining wasn't any more successful then the original method suggested. I'm sorry if you took offence to it. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:57 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade well I'm sorry. just trying to help by doing some searching for you guys! -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 6:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke about in my last message. I'm not quite sure why this is the case. I'm thinking that maybe there may be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out. Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is actually a working theory I've come up with. I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again. Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch for an update tomorrow at some point. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Thanks for the info. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I'm afraid that isn't the only way to fix the issue. You can always download the Windows 10 setup file, and do a clean install of the OS, which involves re-formatting your hard drive to that nothing is on the drive when you finally install Windows 10. I am also having this issue, so it may be that the tech guy you spoke to is trying to pawn Windows 8.1 off on you because he knows he can't make any money if you upgrade to Windows 10. If you have sighted help, then do it this way, which is what I'm gearing up to do, as I'm backing up all my files now. If you do not have sighted help, download the Windows unattended setup from somewhere, and use that. I'm sorry, I don't have a link for you since I do have sighted help to assist me in the install, but I'm sure you can Google Windows unattended Installation and you'll be good to go. What ever you do, don't give into your tech guy telling you have to upgrade to Windows 8.1, that's just ridiculous on it's face. Good luck. Scorpio -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade You can buy a new computer that comes with windows 10. There are many pc's out there that are much faster than yours. - Original Message - From: "Fred Adams" http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Scorpio, I think you just might be changing my mind. I will look into W10 and maybe go in that direction after all. I may have some questions for you later after I do some researching. Thanks much, -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade Hi Fred, I think you should know that if your computer can run Windows 8.1, then it should have no problem running Windows 10, as it's the most slimmed down version of Windows I've ever seen thus far from them, especially when you take into account all the features it currently possesses. The computer I'm upgrading is a Windows 7, 32 bit computer, and it is about 7 years old, and I should know, since I built the monster myself. LOL. In any case, Windows 10 will give you less of a learning curve from 7 to 10, not to mention handling your resources much more effectively. What ever you decide to do, good luck. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 6:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I do not have any interest inW10 at present but maybe later on this year I might change my mind. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:56 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -Original Message- From: Fred Adams Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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When using the Microsoft media creation tool on an older windows 7 computer. Be patient, it may take you several times to complete the upgrade successfully. if and when the upgrade fails. Check for updates, restart your computer. Go, to device manager, check manually, for driver updates. I updated a friends older windows 7 computer, the one thing which was holding back the upgrade was a graphics card driver update. After I manually updated this, the upgrade went through. his computer runs w-10 just fine now. I have made audio and txt files for my windows 10 and jaws yahoo group. Here is the steps for upgrading to W-10, which I have previously shared with the Jaws users list. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart your computer. Check to see if a graphics card driver update is available. Run the Microsoft media creation tool again. -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke about in my last message. I'm not quite sure why this is the case. I'm thinking that maybe there may be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out. Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is actually a working theory I've come up with. I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again. Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware is an old SoundBlaster Sound card that's giving me the trouble, I believe, so watch for an update tomorrow at some point. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Kevin Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade why not try getting the free windows 10 upgrade. if you got the get windows 10 notification just click it and reserve a copy. then just use the win 10 media creation tool to upgrade your computer. -
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Hi Fred, It looks as if some of our members didn't quite understand your questions. I'll try to help. DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WINDOWS 7 AND 8.1 Windows 8.1 doesn't have the same setup as Windows 7. There is no Start menu in the same configuration. Instead, when you press the Windows key, you go to a list of apps which are arranged in column format. You can still navigate to the Desktop by pressing WINDOWS+M or WINDOWS+D. It is still possible to move items onto the Desktop. However, many of the things you already have installed in your system will appear on the list as apps. I have Office 2010 for example and all of the separate programs are listed. To open one, all you have to do is navigate to it and press Enter. The Search capability in 8.1 is great! If you are on that list of apps, just start typing your search term and the system will automatically jump to the item if it is on the system. It will also show you documents pertaining to that item. Once you get into any of your applications, 8.1 doesn't behave any differently than Windows 7 did. It's faster, much faster than Windows 7. Accessing the Control Panel is a bhit more difficult because 8.1 divides the listings into groups sorted by their purpose. You can still reach the Programs and Features list, however. I believe that 8.1 was designed to be more attractive to those who would be using it on a portable device. There are some differences in the operations of 8.1 but essentially, it is a good operating system. Many people hate it, Fred. It took some getting used to for me but now, after working with it for a while, I find it so good that I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10. You were right about your older system not working with 10 by the way. It requires more head room than you probably have on that older system. I hope this helps. John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:29 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade Thanks for the info. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I'm afraid that isn't the only way to fix the issue. You can always download the Windows 10 setup file, and do a clean install of the OS, which involves re-formatting your hard drive to that nothing is on the drive when you finally install Windows 10. I am also having this issue, so it may be that the tech guy you spoke to is trying to pawn Windows 8.1 off on you because he knows he can't make any money if you upgrade to Windows 10. If you have sighted help, then do it this way, which is what I'm gearing up to do, as I'm backing up all my files now. If you do not have sighted help, download the Windows unattended setup from somewhere, and use that. I'm sorry, I don't have a link for you since I do have sighted help to assist me in the install, but I'm sure you can Google Windows unattended Installation and you'll be good to go. What ever you do, don't give into your tech guy telling you have to upgrade to Windows 8.1, that's just ridiculous on it's face. Good luck. Scorpio -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade You can buy a new computer that comes with windows 10. There are many pc's out there that are much faster than yours. - Original Message - From: "Fred Adams" http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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John, thanks very much, you have given me some great info. I think I will upgrade my old computer to 8.1 sometime this month and at a later date I might upgrade my best computer to W10 but I will work on the older computer first. Thanks again, -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Justice Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade Hi Fred, It looks as if some of our members didn't quite understand your questions. I'll try to help. DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WINDOWS 7 AND 8.1 Windows 8.1 doesn't have the same setup as Windows 7. There is no Start menu in the same configuration. Instead, when you press the Windows key, you go to a list of apps which are arranged in column format. You can still navigate to the Desktop by pressing WINDOWS+M or WINDOWS+D. It is still possible to move items onto the Desktop. However, many of the things you already have installed in your system will appear on the list as apps. I have Office 2010 for example and all of the separate programs are listed. To open one, all you have to do is navigate to it and press Enter. The Search capability in 8.1 is great! If you are on that list of apps, just start typing your search term and the system will automatically jump to the item if it is on the system. It will also show you documents pertaining to that item. Once you get into any of your applications, 8.1 doesn't behave any differently than Windows 7 did. It's faster, much faster than Windows 7. Accessing the Control Panel is a bhit more difficult because 8.1 divides the listings into groups sorted by their purpose. You can still reach the Programs and Features list, however. I believe that 8.1 was designed to be more attractive to those who would be using it on a portable device. There are some differences in the operations of 8.1 but essentially, it is a good operating system. Many people hate it, Fred. It took some getting used to for me but now, after working with it for a while, I find it so good that I'm in no hurry to upgrade to Windows 10. You were right about your older system not working with 10 by the way. It requires more head room than you probably have on that older system. I hope this helps. John and linda justice Personal e-mail: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:29 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade Thanks for the info. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I'm afraid that isn't the only way to fix the issue. You can always download the Windows 10 setup file, and do a clean install of the OS, which involves re-formatting your hard drive to that nothing is on the drive when you finally install Windows 10. I am also having this issue, so it may be that the tech guy you spoke to is trying to pawn Windows 8.1 off on you because he knows he can't make any money if you upgrade to Windows 10. If you have sighted help, then do it this way, which is what I'm gearing up to do, as I'm backing up all my files now. If you do not have sighted help, download the Windows unattended setup from somewhere, and use that. I'm sorry, I don't have a link for you since I do have sighted help to assist me in the install, but I'm sure you can Google Windows unattended Installation and you'll be good to go. What ever you do, don't give into your tech guy telling you have to upgrade to Windows 8.1, that's just ridiculous on it's face. Good luck. Scorpio -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade You can buy a new computer that comes with windows 10. There are many pc's out there that are much faster than yours. - Original Message - From: "Fred Adams" http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Jim, thanks for the info and I am keeping your info just in case but I don't trust myself to do this by myself so I plan to get a sighted friend to help. I don't plan to do this soon as I will first get my old computer taken care of by installing 8.1 in it. Thanks much for the great info. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade When using the Microsoft media creation tool on an older windows 7 computer. Be patient, it may take you several times to complete the upgrade successfully. if and when the upgrade fails. Check for updates, restart your computer. Go, to device manager, check manually, for driver updates. I updated a friends older windows 7 computer, the one thing which was holding back the upgrade was a graphics card driver update. After I manually updated this, the upgrade went through. his computer runs w-10 just fine now. I have made audio and txt files for my windows 10 and jaws yahoo group. Here is the steps for upgrading to W-10, which I have previously shared with the Jaws users list. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart your computer. Check to see if a graphics card driver update is available. Run the Microsoft media creation tool again. -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid that the only way to do this is to do it the way I spoke about in my last message. I'm not quite sure why this is the case. I'm thinking that maybe there may be a piece of hardware that is installed on my computer that is so old, that the Windows 10 set up utility can't figure it out. Not saying this is the case, I'm just thinking out loud, and this is actually a working theory I've come up with. I'm going to actually uninstall the actual piece of hardware I have on my computer that is so old, even Windows is afraid to touch it with a 10 foot installer, LOL, and see what happens when I try the installer again. Oh, and just for your information, the piece of hardware
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
Windows 8.1 isn't Werth the upgrade. There's no start menu, and it's clunky to navigate the start screen. Plus, Microsoft office installs in the start screen in windows 8.1. any computer that runs windows 7 can run windows 10. Hell, even windows xp computers can run windows 10. So get the upgrade why'll it's free until July 29th, 2016. I'm running windows 10 just fine on my boot camped late 2012 iMac. How old is your computer? Daniel -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 7:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade Jim, thanks for the info and I am keeping your info just in case but I don't trust myself to do this by myself so I plan to get a sighted friend to help. I don't plan to do this soon as I will first get my old computer taken care of by installing 8.1 in it. Thanks much for the great info. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade When using the Microsoft media creation tool on an older windows 7 computer. Be patient, it may take you several times to complete the upgrade successfully. if and when the upgrade fails. Check for updates, restart your computer. Go, to device manager, check manually, for driver updates. I updated a friends older windows 7 computer, the one thing which was holding back the upgrade was a graphics card driver update. After I manually updated this, the upgrade went through. his computer runs w-10 just fine now. I have made audio and txt files for my windows 10 and jaws yahoo group. Here is the steps for upgrading to W-10, which I have previously shared with the Jaws users list. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart your computer. Check to see if a graphics card driver update is available. Run the Microsoft media creation tool again. -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:33 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade HI Kevin, I'm afraid this method does not work as I attempted it, and the preparation stalled at around 11 and 18%. I even tried to run the set up directly from the MSI file instead of going through the download tool, and got the same result. I'm afraid
Re: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade
Hi, 8.1 is quite different e.g. there is no start menu, just tiles which takes a bit of getting used to but if you are just running the OS to get access to your applications, that shouldn't be too much of an issue, you need to consider which apps you need to run first. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Fred Adams Sent: 05 September 2015 19:50 To: jaws-users list Subject: [JAWS-Users] W 8.1 upgrade I am using W7, outlook 2010 and latest jaws at present. I am having problems with W7 installing windows updates. A Microsoft technician went through my computer and told me that the only solution to my problem is to get a computer repair tech to repair my computer and the other solution is to upgrade to W8.1 or W10. The computer is to old for W10 but I think it could handle W8.1. I would like to know if there is a big learning curve between W7 and W8.1 as I think that might be the cheapest way to go.This is my old backup and experimental computer so I am looking for easiest and cheapest way out. This is an old computer but still works pretty well. Thanks for any suggestions or advice. FRED C. ADAMS W4HC US ARMY AIRBORNE RET For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSi recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
