Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
I agree with Steve. It's been my experience that amount of memory makes a more noticeable difference in performance than does the processor when talking about multitasking those sorts of tasks. I've also found that having an SSD makes a huge difference in speed of almost everything. Of course, none of these things will improve Internet sluggishness, but loading programs and switching tasks is much snappier with my 8 GB of memory and my SSD. And I have an I5 sixth generation processor. Jeff On 7/23/2017 11:18 AM, Steve wrote: I doubt that in itself would make much difference. You have other issues to consider: First, amount of memory. Second, type of hard-drive. Memory is pretty self-explanatory. In terms of hard drives, most laptops come with a 5400RPM drive; whereas desktops come with 7200RPM drives. This, essentially, slows down the speed at which data is retrieved and transferred to your computer's processor and cache memory. Steve - Original Message - From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" <mohibra...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7 in this scenario? On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote: Not really, for every day use. There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four cores. If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery for more operating hours. Steve For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
You have to remember that there's a number of events that happen when processes occur. In terms of applications, especially when talking about internet and Internet Explorer, depending on how much RAM you have, it will always run that stuff in sequential order, plus you have things that are being written to the hard drive, so if you have a hard drive that spins at 5200 rpm, as opposed to a hard drive spinning at 72 or 10,000 rpm, you'll get faster access times from the latter two, then the former. It'll also depend on how much cache memory that hard drive has, so while you may have a really fast processor, all those things are still effecting the status of the computer's performance. I'm not even getting into the transmission speeds of internet services, website access times, and other background applications that may be running in the background, such as Dropbox or the Send Space Wizard, or both, and if you've got One Drive on your computer as well, your hard drive is being accessed by those applications also. Let's not forget Java, the Adobe sweet of products looking for updates, and your anti-virus and drive cleaners, especially if you've got professional versions of those programs that are always active, so, it's not as simple as just processor performance. No matter what you get, an i5, or i7 processor, unless you've got thousands of dollars to spend getting better than average other stuff on your computer, you'll still get that lag after a while. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7 in this scenario? On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote: Not really, for every day use. There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four cores. If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery for more operating hours. Steve For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
I doubt that in itself would make much difference. You have other issues to consider: First, amount of memory. Second, type of hard-drive. Memory is pretty self-explanatory. In terms of hard drives, most laptops come with a 5400RPM drive; whereas desktops come with 7200RPM drives. This, essentially, slows down the speed at which data is retrieved and transferred to your computer's processor and cache memory. Steve - Original Message - From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" <mohibra...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7 in this scenario? On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote: Not really, for every day use. There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four cores. If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery for more operating hours. Steve For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
Have you checked the memory usage? If it's relying on the swap file extensively due to insufficient memory, this will negatively affect performance. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7 in this scenario? On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not really, for every day use. > > There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general > computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. > > Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or > intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more > hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 > hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has > four cores. > > If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a > good amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday > things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be > a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can > conserve your battery for more operating hours. > > Steve > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
Hi, In this case, processor may not be the culprit; rather, it might be disk usage, programs you're using and what not. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 11:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7 in this scenario? On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not really, for every day use. > > There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general > computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. > > Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or > intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more > hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 > hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has > four cores. > > If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a > good amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday > things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be > a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can > conserve your battery for more operating hours. > > Steve > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7 in this scenario? On 7/23/17, Stevewrote: > Not really, for every day use. > > There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing > purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. > > Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or > intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more > hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 > hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four > cores. > > If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good > amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday things like > email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less > powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery > for more operating hours. > > Steve > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
This is good advice. One area in which JAWS users may wish to consider their system's CPU capabilities, however, is with OCR. It probably isn't a problem if you're recognizing individual pages as they're scanned, but if you're processing PDF files containing images of articles or books, it's starting to become rather CPU intensive. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 5:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? Not really, for every day use. There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four cores. If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery for more operating hours. Steve For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
Not really, for every day use. There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four cores. If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery for more operating hours. Steve For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
Hi, In the old days, the notable difference was how many processor cores you can use on I7 versus I5, as I7 includes models with four processor cores. Starting from 6th generation Core (Skylake), quad-core I5 models were introduced, the biggest difference from I7 being lack of Hyper-Threading on I5. For dual core models, there's really no difference except for faster speeds and more CPU cache on I7. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:04 PM To: jaws-users-listSubject: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? I am in the market for a new laptop, are there any special reasons should I prefer I7 model over I5 one? Does jaws and other accessibility softwares run better in I7 machine? -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
an i7 is overkill and draws down the battery faster. unless you are an engineer designing a skyscraper or video and audio editing as your perfession you don't need it. it adds very little to speed increases over the i5. most of your programs only use 1 of the four core processors sometimes 2 at most. -Original Message- From: Mohib Anwar Rafay Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:03 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? I am in the market for a new laptop, are there any special reasons should I prefer I7 model over I5 one? Does jaws and other accessibility softwares run better in I7 machine? -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/