Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-24 Thread Audiobookfan
I agree with Steve. It's been my experience that amount of memory makes 
a more noticeable difference in performance than does the processor when 
talking about multitasking those sorts of tasks.


I've also found that having an SSD makes a huge difference in speed of 
almost everything. Of course, none of these things will improve Internet 
sluggishness, but loading programs and switching tasks is much snappier 
with my 8 GB of memory and my SSD. And I have an I5 sixth generation 
processor.


Jeff


On 7/23/2017 11:18 AM, Steve wrote:

I doubt that in itself would make much difference.

You have other issues to consider:

First, amount of memory.

Second, type of hard-drive.

Memory is pretty self-explanatory.

In terms of hard drives, most laptops come with a 5400RPM drive; whereas 
desktops come with 7200RPM drives.  This, essentially, slows down the 
speed at which data is retrieved and transferred to your computer's 
processor and cache memory.


Steve
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Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening
several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell
laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it
run smoothly with i7 in this scenario?

On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not really, for every day use.

There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general 
computing

purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory.

Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or
intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more
hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16
hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has 
four

cores.

If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good
amount of memory.  But, if you are just using it for everyday things 
like

email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less
powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your 
battery

for more operating hours.

Steve


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-23 Thread Scorpio
You have to remember that there's a number of events that happen when 
processes occur.


In terms of applications, especially when talking about internet and 
Internet Explorer, depending on how much RAM you have, it will always run 
that stuff in sequential order, plus you have things that are being written 
to the hard drive, so if you have a hard drive that spins at 5200 rpm, as 
opposed to a hard drive spinning at 72 or 10,000 rpm, you'll get faster 
access times from the latter two, then the former.


It'll also depend on how much cache memory that hard drive has, so while you 
may have a really fast processor, all those things are still effecting the 
status of the computer's performance.


I'm not even getting into the transmission speeds of internet services, 
website access times, and other background applications that may be running 
in the background, such as Dropbox or the Send Space Wizard, or both, and if 
you've got One Drive on your computer as well, your hard drive is being 
accessed by those applications also.


Let's not forget Java, the Adobe sweet of products looking for updates, and 
your anti-virus and drive cleaners, especially if you've got professional 
versions of those programs that are always active, so, it's not as simple as 
just processor performance.


No matter what you get, an i5, or i7 processor, unless you've got thousands 
of dollars to spend getting better than average other stuff on your 
computer, you'll still get that lag after a while.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Mohib Anwar Rafay

Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for 
jaws users?


Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening
several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell
laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it
run smoothly with i7 in this scenario?

On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not really, for every day use.

There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing
purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory.

Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or
intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more
hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16
hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four
cores.

If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good
amount of memory.  But, if you are just using it for everyday things like
email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less
powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery
for more operating hours.

Steve


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-23 Thread Steve

I doubt that in itself would make much difference.

You have other issues to consider:

First, amount of memory.

Second, type of hard-drive.

Memory is pretty self-explanatory.

In terms of hard drives, most laptops come with a 5400RPM drive; whereas 
desktops come with 7200RPM drives.  This, essentially, slows down the speed 
at which data is retrieved and transferred to your computer's processor and 
cache memory.


Steve
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From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" <mohibra...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for 
jaws users?




Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening
several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell
laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it
run smoothly with i7 in this scenario?

On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not really, for every day use.

There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general 
computing

purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory.

Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or
intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more
hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16
hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four
cores.

If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good
amount of memory.  But, if you are just using it for everyday things like
email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less
powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery
for more operating hours.

Steve


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-23 Thread Jason White
Have you checked the memory usage? If it's relying on the swap file
extensively due to insufficient memory, this will negatively affect
performance.

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Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for
jaws users?

Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several
programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform
very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7
in this scenario?

On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not really, for every day use.
>
> There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general 
> computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more
memory.
>
> Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or 
> intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more 
> hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 
> hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has 
> four cores.
>
> If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a 
> good amount of memory.  But, if you are just using it for everyday 
> things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be 
> a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can 
> conserve your battery for more operating hours.
>
> Steve
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-23 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
In this case, processor may not be the culprit; rather, it might be disk
usage, programs you're using and what not.
Cheers,
Joseph


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Behalf Of Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 11:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for
jaws users?

Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several
programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform
very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7
in this scenario?

On 7/23/17, Steve <pipeguy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not really, for every day use.
>
> There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general 
> computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more
memory.
>
> Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or 
> intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more 
> hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 
> hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has 
> four cores.
>
> If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a 
> good amount of memory.  But, if you are just using it for everyday 
> things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be 
> a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can 
> conserve your battery for more operating hours.
>
> Steve
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-23 Thread Mohib Anwar Rafay
Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening
several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell
laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it
run smoothly with i7 in this scenario?

On 7/23/17, Steve  wrote:
> Not really, for every day use.
>
> There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing
> purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory.
>
> Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or
> intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more
> hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16
> hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four
> cores.
>
> If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good
> amount of memory.  But, if you are just using it for everyday things like
> email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less
> powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery
> for more operating hours.
>
> Steve
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-22 Thread Jason White
This is good advice. One area in which JAWS users may wish to consider their
system's CPU capabilities, however, is with OCR. It probably isn't a problem
if you're recognizing individual pages as they're scanned, but if you're
processing PDF files containing images of articles or books, it's starting
to become rather CPU intensive.


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Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for
jaws users?

Not really, for every day use.

There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing
purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory.

Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or
intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more
hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16
hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four
cores.

If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good
amount of memory.  But, if you are just using it for everyday things like
email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less
powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery
for more operating hours.

Steve 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-22 Thread Steve

Not really, for every day use.

There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing 
purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory.


Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or 
intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more 
hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 
hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four 
cores.


If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good 
amount of memory.  But, if you are just using it for everyday things like 
email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less 
powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery 
for more operating hours.


Steve 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-22 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
In the old days, the notable difference was how many processor cores you can
use on I7 versus I5, as I7 includes models with four processor cores.
Starting from 6th generation Core (Skylake), quad-core I5 models were
introduced, the biggest difference from I7 being lack of Hyper-Threading on
I5. For dual core models, there's really no difference except for faster
speeds and more CPU cache on I7.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for
jaws users?

I am in the market for a new laptop, are there any special reasons should I
prefer I7 model over I5 one? Does jaws and other accessibility softwares run
better in I7 machine?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?

2017-07-22 Thread net bat66

an i7 is overkill and draws down the battery faster.
unless you are an engineer designing a skyscraper or video and audio editing as 
your perfession you don't need it.

it adds very little to speed increases over the i5.
most of your programs only use 1 of the four core processors sometimes 2 at 
most.


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Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws 
users?


I am in the market for a new laptop, are there any special reasons
should I prefer I7 model over I5 one? Does jaws and other
accessibility softwares run better in I7 machine?

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