Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Vicki W.]

it's the latest, and it's there for other .pdf documents, just not these 3.


- Original Message - 
From: "David G. Carlson Via iPhone" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


Have you updated to the latest version of jaws 2018? That feature came 
late in the rollout.


Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:53 PM, net bat66 <netba...@gmail.com> wrote:

check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 
documents.



- Original Message - From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Vicki W.]

I have never used 18. Didn't like it. This is 2018. I'm guessing it's not 
there because it's imbedded text in an image.



- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 
documents.



- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[David G. Carlson Via iPhone]

Have you updated to the latest version of jaws 2018? That feature came late in 
the rollout.

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:53 PM, net bat66 <netba...@gmail.com> wrote:

check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 documents.


- Original Message - From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


> none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
> its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
> recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
> 
> What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
> remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:
> 
> Insert+Spacebar
> Release to hear a click sound
> Press the letter O
> release
> Press the letter D
> release
> You should hear a response that it is working
> 
> I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.
> 
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
> 
> 
> That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
> window opens.
> 
> The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
> difference?
> 
> Vicki
> 
> ----- Original Message - From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
> 
> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
>> (without the quotes).
>> This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
>> scan, depending on the size of your document.
>> The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
>> If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
>> text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.
>> 
>> Reed
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Vicki W.
>> Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
>> To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
>> 
>> I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
>> 2018 to read them?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Vicki
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>> 
>> 
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[net bat66]

check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 documents.


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Vicki W.]

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 documents.


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and 
use recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Andy Baracco]

Text that is embedded in an image, such as a stop sign, would not be read.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other 
window opens.


The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a 
difference?


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[net bat66]

none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[net bat66]

they said jaws 2018.
no, note pad is not needed to read the text.
i just for got to delete the note pad reference when i was editing what i was 
going to say. grin
but you do need to use note pad if you want to save the ocr text, by useing 
copy and paste to copy the text into note pad.

***


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

That seems a bit vague, even to me. Do you bring up the file list in the
"Open" dialog of Notepad? If so, you also need to change the file type to
"all files" to see any PDF document.

I'm thinking that your idea is based on JAWS 2018 with the capability to
recognize a PDF file directly from a file list in Windows Explorer, and not
opening it. If so, then Notepad has nothing to do with the process -- the
virtual viewer will come up without having Notepad open.

I'm not sure the requester has said what version of JAWS is being used.

Also the context menu that pops up does not say "OCR" it instead says
"Recognize with JAWS".

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


easy.
open note pad then go to your files. but don't open them.
open a context menu on them and use the ocr option and wait a few seconds
for
it to process the text.
do not press  the escape key or it will close. then you can  view the text
of
the pdf file.
the acuracy of the text depends on how much video errors there are in the
scanned image.



-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018
to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Dave...Oregonian]

That seems a bit vague, even to me. Do you bring up the file list in the 
"Open" dialog of Notepad? If so, you also need to change the file type to 
"all files" to see any PDF document.

I'm thinking that your idea is based on JAWS 2018 with the capability to 
recognize a PDF file directly from a file list in Windows Explorer, and not 
opening it. If so, then Notepad has nothing to do with the process -- the 
virtual viewer will come up without having Notepad open.

I'm not sure the requester has said what version of JAWS is being used.

Also the context menu that pops up does not say "OCR" it instead says 
"Recognize with JAWS".

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


easy.
open note pad then go to your files. but don't open them.
open a context menu on them and use the ocr option and wait a few seconds 
for
it to process the text.
do not press  the escape key or it will close. then you can  view the text 
of
the pdf file.
the acuracy of the text depends on how much video errors there are in the
scanned image.



-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS 
2018
to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Dave...Oregonian]

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then 
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

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From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


> Hi Vicki,
>
> After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
> (without the quotes).
> This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
> scan, depending on the size of your document.
> The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
> If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
> text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.
>
> Reed
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Vicki W.
> Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
> To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
>
> I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
> 2018 to read them?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[net bat66]

you have to wait. like a 200 page pdf file can take over 1 minute to process. 
and jaws will  make a tone while you are waiting until it has finished.


-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

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From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[net bat66]

easy.
open note pad then go to your files. but don't open them.
open a context menu on them and use the ocr option and wait a few seconds for 
it to process the text.
do not press  the escape key or it will close. then you can  view the text of 
the pdf file.
the acuracy of the text depends on how much video errors there are in the 
scanned image.




-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS 2018 
to read them?


Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Vicki W.]

That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other 
window opens.


The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a 
difference?


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Reed]

Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer. 
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[diverson]

KNFB Reader is about a hundred dollars now, but there will likely be a
special price on it along about Convention time. If you can wait you might
pick up a deal then.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

It was around $995.00 in September of 2001 when I got it and the program has
served me well.

I missed out on the KNFB app for the PC the other week, I'm sure for those
of you who were lucky to get it the program is serving you well. I do have
it on my phone which does offer a portable option since it is always with
me. They both have benefits and limitations as in all things.

-Original Message-
From: Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Openbook is from Freedom Scientific.  It cost about $1,000.00 when I bought
it 20 years ago.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[David Ferrin]

It was around $995.00 in September of 2001 when I got it and the program has 
served me well.


I missed out on the KNFB app for the PC the other week, I'm sure for those 
of you who were lucky to get it the program is serving you well. I do have 
it on my phone which does offer a portable option since it is always with 
me. They both have benefits and limitations as in all things.


-Original Message- 
From: Tammy

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Openbook is from Freedom Scientific.  It cost about $1,000.00 when I bought
it 20 years ago.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Justin Williams]

Between open book, and the jaws feature, insert plus space bar, o, then d, I
can read most pdfs I want to read. I use adobe dc, and sometimes, it just
converts it on its own without me having to use openbook, or the ocr convert
in JAWS.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 7:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

I have had Openbook for 20 years.  At one time, it was the only thing I knew
about.  The KNFB reader is really nice and so much more portable.  I never
remember those web sites that convert files but they are good too.  I know
Jaws has a feature to convert pdf files too.  I don't have a lot of luck
with that one.  I probably need more practice.  It is so nice to have an
assortment of options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

George, thanks. Judy

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

I have had OpenBook for around 8 years now and I rarely if ever use it.  I
purchased the new KNFB reader for Windows at that gong $19.95 price and it
will do the same thing with PDFs.  
That said Judy, there are a number of good free programs out there that will
take a PDF and convert it to text, even some web sites where you send them
your PDF and they will return it in minutes as a text file.
  


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Judy, to add a little more detail. I never bought OpenBook because I believe
there are so many other ways of accomplishing what it does. Essentially,
it's an OCR program with scanner that was designed with JAWS in mind.
However, as you may have seen with the recent KNFB Reader thread, there are
now many other, much more affordable ways to convert print to digital text.

But since I don't own it, I hope Openbook users will chime in with any
advantages it may have over other options.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Tammy]

Openbook is from Freedom Scientific.  It cost about $1,000.00 when I bought
it 20 years ago.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Tammy]

I have had Openbook for 20 years.  At one time, it was the only thing I knew
about.  The KNFB reader is really nice and so much more portable.  I never
remember those web sites that convert files but they are good too.  I know
Jaws has a feature to convert pdf files too.  I don't have a lot of luck
with that one.  I probably need more practice.  It is so nice to have an
assortment of options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

George, thanks. Judy

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

I have had OpenBook for around 8 years now and I rarely if ever use it.  I
purchased the new KNFB reader for Windows at that gong $19.95 price and it
will do the same thing with PDFs.  
That said Judy, there are a number of good free programs out there that will
take a PDF and convert it to text, even some web sites where you send them
your PDF and they will return it in minutes as a text file.
  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Judy, to add a little more detail. I never bought OpenBook because I believe
there are so many other ways of accomplishing what it does. Essentially,
it's an OCR program with scanner that was designed with JAWS in mind.
However, as you may have seen with the recent KNFB Reader thread, there are
now many other, much more affordable ways to convert print to digital text.

But since I don't own it, I hope Openbook users will chime in with any
advantages it may have over other options.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Justin Williams]

I've had so so luck swith robo braille.  Sometimes it's good, and sometimes
it's not.  It seems Also, sometimes the site didn't seem to operate right
for me.
But, others have used it effectively, and at times so have I.
 Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

George, thanks. Judy

 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

I have had OpenBook for around 8 years now and I rarely if ever use it.  I
purchased the new KNFB reader for Windows at that gong $19.95 price and it
will do the same thing with PDFs.  
That said Judy, there are a number of good free programs out there that will
take a PDF and convert it to text, even some web sites where you send them
your PDF and they will return it in minutes as a text file.
  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Judy, to add a little more detail. I never bought OpenBook because I believe
there are so many other ways of accomplishing what it does. Essentially,
it's an OCR program with scanner that was designed with JAWS in mind.
However, as you may have seen with the recent KNFB Reader thread, there are
now many other, much more affordable ways to convert print to digital text.

But since I don't own it, I hope Openbook users will chime in with any
advantages it may have over other options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Justin Williams]

It's all in preference.  And in what you life style allows for.  I love my
open book, I read mail and scan things in, mostly mail, and I use it to read
pdfs. I've got the knfb reader also, and will use it when necessary.
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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

George, thanks. Judy

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

I have had OpenBook for around 8 years now and I rarely if ever use it.  I
purchased the new KNFB reader for Windows at that gong $19.95 price and it
will do the same thing with PDFs.  
That said Judy, there are a number of good free programs out there that will
take a PDF and convert it to text, even some web sites where you send them
your PDF and they will return it in minutes as a text file.
  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Judy, to add a little more detail. I never bought OpenBook because I believe
there are so many other ways of accomplishing what it does. Essentially,
it's an OCR program with scanner that was designed with JAWS in mind.
However, as you may have seen with the recent KNFB Reader thread, there are
now many other, much more affordable ways to convert print to digital text.

But since I don't own it, I hope Openbook users will chime in with any
advantages it may have over other options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
- Original Message -
From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Judy]

George, thanks. Judy

 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

I have had OpenBook for around 8 years now and I rarely if ever use it.  I
purchased the new KNFB reader for Windows at that gong $19.95 price and it
will do the same thing with PDFs.  
That said Judy, there are a number of good free programs out there that will
take a PDF and convert it to text, even some web sites where you send them
your PDF and they will return it in minutes as a text file.
  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Judy, to add a little more detail. I never bought OpenBook because I believe
there are so many other ways of accomplishing what it does. Essentially,
it's an OCR program with scanner that was designed with JAWS in mind.
However, as you may have seen with the recent KNFB Reader thread, there are
now many other, much more affordable ways to convert print to digital text.

But since I don't own it, I hope Openbook users will chime in with any
advantages it may have over other options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Justin Williams]

It a little easier to use it and save things to a pc without having to go
around in a circle to do so.  It's got all the features you need in one
spot.  
There are a lot of features to it.  You can read files in a variety of ways.
Take a look at the freedom scientific seminar
Also, you can read pdfs with the freedom import printer, a very valuable way
of readin.g  You can take a file you've read with openbook, and convert it
over to work.
 You can do a variety of things with it.
 Justin
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 6:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Judy, to add a little more detail. I never bought OpenBook because I believe
there are so many other ways of accomplishing what it does. Essentially,
it's an OCR program with scanner that was designed with JAWS in mind.
However, as you may have seen with the recent KNFB Reader thread, there are
now many other, much more affordable ways to convert print to digital text.

But since I don't own it, I hope Openbook users will chime in with any
advantages it may have over other options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[George Martinez]

I have had OpenBook for around 8 years now and I rarely if ever use it.  I 
purchased the new KNFB reader for Windows at that gong $19.95 price and it will 
do the same thing with PDFs.  
That said Judy, there are a number of good free programs out there that will 
take a PDF and convert it to text, even some web sites where you send them your 
PDF and they will return it in minutes as a text file.
  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Judy, to add a little more detail. I never bought OpenBook because I believe 
there are so many other ways of accomplishing what it does. Essentially, it's 
an OCR program with scanner that was designed with JAWS in mind. However, as 
you may have seen with the recent KNFB Reader thread, there are now many other, 
much more affordable ways to convert print to digital text.

But since I don't own it, I hope Openbook users will chime in with any 
advantages it may have over other options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to 
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise.
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please remind 
me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter o,  for 
ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I forgot how 
to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Adrian Spratt]

Judy, to add a little more detail. I never bought OpenBook because I believe 
there are so many other ways of accomplishing what it does. Essentially, it's 
an OCR program with scanner that was designed with JAWS in mind. However, as 
you may have seen with the recent KNFB Reader thread, there are now many other, 
much more affordable ways to convert print to digital text.

But since I don't own it, I hope Openbook users will chime in with any 
advantages it may have over other options.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

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Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to 
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
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Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please remind 
me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter o,  for 
ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I forgot how 
to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Adrian Spratt]

OpenBook is an FS/VFO product, and it's not exactly free.

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Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 5:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to 
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
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Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Judy
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[George Martinez]

OpenBook is a product of Freedom Scientific.  6 - 7 years ago when I got my 
copy it cost around $900.
George


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Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Judy]

Where do you get Open Book and is it free? Is it totally accessible to me to
install? Thanks. Judy & Libby

 
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I

know of.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Tammy]

Judy,
The freedom import printer is part of the program called Openbook, which
enables a person to scan materials then read it to you.

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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 5:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby

 

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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Mike B.]

Hi Judy,

It installs when you install Openbook.  This is the only way of getting it I 
know of.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Judy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2017 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby



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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Judy]

Hi, what is the freedom import printer? How do you getit? Judy & Libby

 

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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Tammy]

Thanks!  That works great!

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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Hi Tammy,

Please forgive me if this has been posted, but here are the steps for using
Openbook to read this particular type of PDF document:
1. Open the PDF document, & press, Control + P, to open the print dialogue.
2. Arrow down to, Freedom Import Printer, & press enter.
3. Wait for several seconds, Openbook will open, & scan the document, & now
you can read it.

Take care.
Mike
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From: Justin Williams
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Outstanidng.
 Justin

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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Mike B.]

Hi Tammy,

Please forgive me if this has been posted, but here are the steps for using 
Openbook to read this particular type of PDF document:
1. Open the PDF document, & press, Control + P, to open the print dialogue.
2. Arrow down to, Freedom Import Printer, & press enter.
3. Wait for several seconds, Openbook will open, & scan the document, & now 
you can read it.

Take care.
Mike
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From: Justin Williams
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF


Outstanidng.
 Justin

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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Justin Williams]

Outstanidng.
 Justin

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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Tammy]

Justin,
Thanks!  Yep, that was easy and worked great!

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Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 8:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Use control p, and find the freedom important, then press enter.
 Justin

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Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

[Justin Williams]

Use control p, and find the freedom important, then press enter.
 Justin

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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a PDF

Ok, I have a PDF which shows up as an empty document.  Would you please
remind me how to read this?  I tried using insert with the spacebar, letter
o,  for ocr then letter d for document and got something really strange.  I
forgot how to open it using the freedom import printer.  Any help would be
appreciated!

Thanks  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[inthaneelf]

yes but if the file is locked/secured and/or accessibility is turned off as 
well, then it can't scan it, don't know where folks got that notion, unless 
K9 did something to circumvent pdf security? if its secured its not scanable 
in K8


inthane
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13



This is what I was doing, but it didn't work. I will give Ryan's method a
try to see how it goes.

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From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13


If you have Open Book or Kurzweil you can send the file to the printer 
then

select the appropriate one and the image file is converted.  Jaws OCR is
best used just to get a look at what it is so you know if you want to
proceed further with a conversion process.  It is not meant to read long
documents.  For that you really need some kind of scanning program that 
will

convert image files to text.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lennie
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Hi,

I am assuming that the PDF document is an image. If you have a scanner, 
you

can print the document and then scan it to have Jaws be able to read the
document as a text file.

I don't have open book or Kirzwell, but I understand that either one can
read the image file and convert it to text. I also understand that there
might be some site on the web that will do the same. Sorry to say, but I
don't know where that would be. Perhaps a Google search can find one for
you?

Take care.

Lennie

At 09:53 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 
OCR?

I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Flor Lynch]

If it's possible, it's better to open the pdf than print it. V12 and 13 
of Kurzweil1000 can open the pdf and then start image recognition in it. 
(This is a more accurate process than printing it.) So use that or your 
off-the-shelf OCR program (if you have one) [with JAWS], if it can open 
pdf's.


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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13


yes but if the file is locked/secured and/or accessibility is turned 
off as well, then it can't scan it, don't know where folks got that 
notion, unless K9 did something to circumvent pdf security? if its 
secured its not scanable in K8


inthane
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From: Tara tarakelly...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13


This is what I was doing, but it didn't work. I will give Ryan's 
method a

try to see how it goes.

- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13


If you have Open Book or Kurzweil you can send the file to the 
printer then
select the appropriate one and the image file is converted.  Jaws OCR 
is

best used just to get a look at what it is so you know if you want to
proceed further with a conversion process.  It is not meant to read 
long
documents.  For that you really need some kind of scanning program 
that will

convert image files to text.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lennie
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Hi,

I am assuming that the PDF document is an image. If you have a 
scanner, you
can print the document and then scan it to have Jaws be able to read 
the

document as a text file.

I don't have open book or Kirzwell, but I understand that either one 
can
read the image file and convert it to text. I also understand that 
there
might be some site on the web that will do the same. Sorry to say, 
but I
don't know where that would be. Perhaps a Google search can find one 
for

you?

Take care.

Lennie

At 09:53 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 
13 OCR?

I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Ryan West]

Hello Tara,

If you press incert and space bar you will hear a click then press the 
letter o, followed by the letter w.  You will hear it say OCR finished and 
the jaws curser will become active and if you then arrow down it will read 
the ocr for the text in that window.  You will have to then page down and go 
through the process again for each new page.  I hope this answers your 
question about JFW's OCR.  It is a little bit limited but it works great in 
a pinch.


Sincerely, Ryan West

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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:53 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 OCR?
I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Lennie]

Hi,

I am assuming that the PDF document is an image. If you have a 
scanner, you can print the document and then scan it to have Jaws be 
able to read the document as a text file.


I don't have open book or Kirzwell, but I understand that either one 
can read the image file and convert it to text. I also understand 
that there might be some site on the web that will do the same. Sorry 
to say, but I don't know where that would be. Perhaps a Google search 
can find one for you?


Take care.

Lennie

At 09:53 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:

Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 OCR?
I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Ryan West]

Hello again,

I forgot to mention that pressing first control 1 before starting the ocr 
process will help get a more acuret OCR from JFW.


Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 
From: Ryan West

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Hello Tara,

If you press incert and space bar you will hear a click then press the
letter o, followed by the letter w.  You will hear it say OCR finished and
the jaws curser will become active and if you then arrow down it will read
the ocr for the text in that window.  You will have to then page down and go
through the process again for each new page.  I hope this answers your
question about JFW's OCR.  It is a little bit limited but it works great in
a pinch.

Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 
From: Tara

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:53 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 OCR?
I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Rose Combs]

If you have Open Book or Kurzweil you can send the file to the printer then
select the appropriate one and the image file is converted.  Jaws OCR is
best used just to get a look at what it is so you know if you want to
proceed further with a conversion process.  It is not meant to read long
documents.  For that you really need some kind of scanning program that will
convert image files to text.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lennie
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Hi,

I am assuming that the PDF document is an image. If you have a scanner, you
can print the document and then scan it to have Jaws be able to read the
document as a text file.

I don't have open book or Kirzwell, but I understand that either one can
read the image file and convert it to text. I also understand that there
might be some site on the web that will do the same. Sorry to say, but I
don't know where that would be. Perhaps a Google search can find one for
you?

Take care.

Lennie

At 09:53 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 OCR?
I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Norman King]

Hi.
To do ocr on a document.
Press insert space, o, w
It will only recognize the current page, so when you switch pages you will
have to go through the same steps again.


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tara
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:54 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 OCR? 
I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Tara]

This is what I was doing, but it didn't work. I will give Ryan's method a 
try to see how it goes.

- Original Message - 
From: Rose Combs roseco...@q.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13


If you have Open Book or Kurzweil you can send the file to the printer then
select the appropriate one and the image file is converted.  Jaws OCR is
best used just to get a look at what it is so you know if you want to
proceed further with a conversion process.  It is not meant to read long
documents.  For that you really need some kind of scanning program that will
convert image files to text.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lennie
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Hi,

I am assuming that the PDF document is an image. If you have a scanner, you
can print the document and then scan it to have Jaws be able to read the
document as a text file.

I don't have open book or Kirzwell, but I understand that either one can
read the image file and convert it to text. I also understand that there
might be some site on the web that will do the same. Sorry to say, but I
don't know where that would be. Perhaps a Google search can find one for
you?

Take care.

Lennie

At 09:53 AM 6/22/2012, you wrote:
Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 OCR?
I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Flor Lynch]

What does control 1 do there?

- Original Message - 
From: Ryan West westr...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13



Hello again,

I forgot to mention that pressing first control 1 before starting the 
ocr process will help get a more acuret OCR from JFW.


Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 

From: Ryan West

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Hello Tara,

If you press incert and space bar you will hear a click then press the
letter o, followed by the letter w.  You will hear it say OCR finished 
and
the jaws curser will become active and if you then arrow down it will 
read
the ocr for the text in that window.  You will have to then page down 
and go

through the process again for each new page.  I hope this answers your
question about JFW's OCR.  It is a little bit limited but it works 
great in

a pinch.

Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 

From: Tara

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:53 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 
OCR?

I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

[Ryan West]

Hello Flor,

According to the JFW help file on OCR, the Control 1 will make the pdf 
actual size while in Adobe reader.  It will make the image larger so JFW's 
OCR will have a better chance at recognizing the text.

Sincerely, Ryan West
-Original Message- 
From: Flor Lynch

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

What does control 1 do there?

- Original Message - 
From: Ryan West westr...@charter.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13



Hello again,

I forgot to mention that pressing first control 1 before starting the ocr 
process will help get a more acuret OCR from JFW.


Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 

From: Ryan West

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Hello Tara,

If you press incert and space bar you will hear a click then press the
letter o, followed by the letter w.  You will hear it say OCR finished and
the jaws curser will become active and if you then arrow down it will read
the ocr for the text in that window.  You will have to then page down and 
go

through the process again for each new page.  I hope this answers your
question about JFW's OCR.  It is a little bit limited but it works great 
in

a pinch.

Sincerely, Ryan West

-Original Message- 

From: Tara

Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 6:53 AM
To: jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF documents in JAWS 13

Can anyone give me the steps to read a pdf empty document with JAWS 13 
OCR?

I've tried everything and cannot get it to work.

Thank you.

Tara


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

[Dean Martineau]

I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can put
codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format.
Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and specify
the desired file format in the form.  

Dean
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-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
To: ju
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

Hi, All:

Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe
Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it and it
was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR feature
for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it.  Adobe
said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by
the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about
the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to
hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7
Home Premium machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCRFeature

[Flor Lynch]

Didn't know that it does image pdf's, too?

- Original Message - 
From: Dean Martineau d...@topdotenterprises.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient 
OCRFeature




I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can 
put

codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format.
Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and 
specify

the desired file format in the form.

Dean
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-Original Message-

From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas

Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
To: ju
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR 
Feature


Hi, All:

Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe
Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it 
and it
was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR 
feature
for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it. 
Adobe
said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as 
instructed by
the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading 
about
the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can get 
to
hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit 
Windows 7

Home Premium machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

[Ann Marie Medlar]

Hi Margaret,
If you have any OCR software on your computer I would open it using OCR 
program.
If you feel safe about the info of the PDF file you could email it to me and 
I could open using Openbook and save it as a word or text doc.

amedl...@gmail.com
No problem if you don't take me up on offer.
Annn

- Original Message - 
From: Margaret Thomas iluvtor...@cox.net

To: ju jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:58 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature



Hi, All:

Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe Reader 
gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it and it was 
processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR feature 
for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it.  Adobe 
said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by 
the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about 
the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to 
hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7 
Home Premium machine.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCRFeature

[Dean Martineau]

Indeed, one of its greater values is that it does OCR on the image pdf´s.

Dean


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 8:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient
OCRFeature

Didn't know that it does image pdf's, too?

- Original Message -
From: Dean Martineau d...@topdotenterprises.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient
OCRFeature


I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
 You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can  
put  codes in the subject line to specify a different return file 
format.
 Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and  
specify  the desired file format in the form.

 Dean
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 -Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret 
 Thomas
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
 To: ju
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR 
 Feature

 Hi, All:

 Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe 
 Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it 
 and it was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new 
 Convenient OCR feature for the first time in an effort to get 
 something usable out of it.
 Adobe
 said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as 
 instructed by the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is 
 only reading about the first lines.  Could some kind person please 
 tell me how I can get to hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe 
 Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

[tim]

I had one that told me it was just a image and no accessibility at all.
So I opened up Open Book, and it did read it.
So if you have any scanner software see if it will do PDF.

At 10:58 AM 2/6/2012, you wrote:

Hi, All:

Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail 
that Adobe Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when 
I opened it and it was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried 
the new Convenient OCR feature for the first time in an effort to 
get something usable out of it.  Adobe said it is a two page 
document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by the JAWS 
What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about 
the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can 
get to hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 
bit Windows 7 Home Premium machine.


Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCRFeature

[David Ferrin]

This is yet another peace of interesting news as I'm not sure I have heard 
of that site in the past or not, thank you.
David Ferrin
Beauty fades but dumbness is forever.
Judge Judy
- Original Message - 
From: Dean Martineau d...@topdotenterprises.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient 
OCRFeature


I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can put
codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format.
Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and specify
the desired file format in the form.

Dean
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-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
To: ju
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

Hi, All:

Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe
Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it and it
was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR feature
for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it.  Adobe
said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by
the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about
the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to
hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7
Home Premium machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

[Margaret Thomas]

Thanks for what would be a great idea, but it is from my attorney and is 
private, so I don't want to send it to a service or for anyone to open 
for me.  I do have Open Book 9, but my efforts to open it with OB 
haven't worked.  I don't know if I have messed up my file associations 
or something, but I get the following error message:


File C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom 
Scientific\OpenBook\9.0\Users\default\Library\(the name of the file).pdf 
does not exist.


The file is definitely in documents under libraries.

I launch OB.  Press alt-F/ Press enter on open.  Paste in the name of 
the file .  Tab over to the combo box for look in.  Get to libraries and 
press enter on open.  I can't get it to go below libraries.


I've spent hours on this and am getting very frustrated.  I'm still not 
good with Win 7 and only use Open Book when I have a .pdf file to deal with.


Could someone give the instructions to get Open Book to open the .pdf?

Any help would be very appreciated.

Margaret



On 2/6/2012 11:20 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can put
codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format.
Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and specify
the desired file format in the form.

Dean
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-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
To: ju
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

Hi, All:

Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe
Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it and it
was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR feature
for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it.  Adobe
said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by
the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about
the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to
hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7
Home Premium machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCRFeature

[Potter, Kurtis]

Try just using the Openbook virtual printer.  
Open the file with adobe reader, select print and from the list of
printers select freedom import printer.
Openbook will open and run OCR.


Thanks,
Kurt


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret
Thomas
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient
OCRFeature

Thanks for what would be a great idea, but it is from my attorney and is

private, so I don't want to send it to a service or for anyone to open 
for me.  I do have Open Book 9, but my efforts to open it with OB 
haven't worked.  I don't know if I have messed up my file associations 
or something, but I get the following error message:

File C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom 
Scientific\OpenBook\9.0\Users\default\Library\(the name of the file).pdf

does not exist.

The file is definitely in documents under libraries.

I launch OB.  Press alt-F/ Press enter on open.  Paste in the name of 
the file .  Tab over to the combo box for look in.  Get to libraries and

press enter on open.  I can't get it to go below libraries.

I've spent hours on this and am getting very frustrated.  I'm still not 
good with Win 7 and only use Open Book when I have a .pdf file to deal
with.

Could someone give the instructions to get Open Book to open the .pdf?

Any help would be very appreciated.

Margaret



On 2/6/2012 11:20 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:
 I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
 You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can
put
 codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format.
 Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and
specify
 the desired file format in the form.

 Dean
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 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret
Thomas
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
 To: ju
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR
Feature

 Hi, All:

   Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that
Adobe
 Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it
and it
 was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR
feature
 for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it.
Adobe
 said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as
instructed by
 the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading
about
 the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can get
to
 hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit
Windows 7
 Home Premium machine.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

[Dean Martineau]

Try opening the document in Adobe Reader, even though there is no text, then
print, and select the Freedom Import printer.  That will launch OpenBook for
recognition of the document.

Dean

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR
Feature

Thanks for what would be a great idea, but it is from my attorney and is
private, so I don't want to send it to a service or for anyone to open for
me.  I do have Open Book 9, but my efforts to open it with OB haven't
worked.  I don't know if I have messed up my file associations or something,
but I get the following error message:

File C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom
Scientific\OpenBook\9.0\Users\default\Library\(the name of the file).pdf
does not exist.

The file is definitely in documents under libraries.

I launch OB.  Press alt-F/ Press enter on open.  Paste in the name of the
file .  Tab over to the combo box for look in.  Get to libraries and press
enter on open.  I can't get it to go below libraries.

I've spent hours on this and am getting very frustrated.  I'm still not good
with Win 7 and only use Open Book when I have a .pdf file to deal with.

Could someone give the instructions to get Open Book to open the .pdf?

Any help would be very appreciated.

Margaret



On 2/6/2012 11:20 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:
 I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
 You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can 
 put codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format.
 Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and 
 specify the desired file format in the form.

 Dean
 Follow me on Twitter: deantopdot
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 Address

 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret 
 Thomas
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
 To: ju
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR 
 Feature

 Hi, All:

   Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe 
 Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it 
 and it was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new 
 Convenient OCR feature for the first time in an effort to get 
 something usable out of it.  Adobe said it is a two page document.  I 
 pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by the JAWS What's New and 
 Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about the first lines.  
 Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to hear the whole 
 document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7 Home Premium
machine.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCRFeature

[Ann Marie Medlar]

Margaret,
Launch Open book.  Press Control+o to open.
tab to file type and type adobe. Or just arrow down to adobe/PDF.
Shift tab back to folder name.  I usually have my docs under my documents 
but Openbook has its own path.  So when on folder name keep hitting the 
backspace key until you get to the folder where your PDF file is located. 
You might just want to put your file on desktop and keep pressing the 
backspace until you get to desktop.
When you see your file name in list view press enter and OpenBook should 
begin processing.  Hopefully it is readable.

Good luck.
- Original Message - 
From: Margaret Thomas iluvtor...@cox.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient 
OCRFeature



Thanks for what would be a great idea, but it is from my attorney and is 
private, so I don't want to send it to a service or for anyone to open for 
me.  I do have Open Book 9, but my efforts to open it with OB haven't 
worked.  I don't know if I have messed up my file associations or 
something, but I get the following error message:


File C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom 
Scientific\OpenBook\9.0\Users\default\Library\(the name of the file).pdf 
does not exist.


The file is definitely in documents under libraries.

I launch OB.  Press alt-F/ Press enter on open.  Paste in the name of the 
file .  Tab over to the combo box for look in.  Get to libraries and press 
enter on open.  I can't get it to go below libraries.


I've spent hours on this and am getting very frustrated.  I'm still not 
good with Win 7 and only use Open Book when I have a .pdf file to deal 
with.


Could someone give the instructions to get Open Book to open the .pdf?

Any help would be very appreciated.

Margaret



On 2/6/2012 11:20 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:

I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can 
put

codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format.
Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and specify
the desired file format in the form.

Dean
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-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret 
Thomas

Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
To: ju
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR 
Feature


Hi, All:

Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe
Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it and 
it
was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR 
feature

for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it.  Adobe
said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed 
by
the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading 
about

the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to
hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 
7

Home Premium machine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

[Blackwell, Clifford]

Have you selected the file type in OB9?  It's right before the look in option.

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 3:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

Thanks for what would be a great idea, but it is from my attorney and is 
private, so I don't want to send it to a service or for anyone to open 
for me.  I do have Open Book 9, but my efforts to open it with OB 
haven't worked.  I don't know if I have messed up my file associations 
or something, but I get the following error message:

File C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom 
Scientific\OpenBook\9.0\Users\default\Library\(the name of the file).pdf 
does not exist.

The file is definitely in documents under libraries.

I launch OB.  Press alt-F/ Press enter on open.  Paste in the name of 
the file .  Tab over to the combo box for look in.  Get to libraries and 
press enter on open.  I can't get it to go below libraries.

I've spent hours on this and am getting very frustrated.  I'm still not 
good with Win 7 and only use Open Book when I have a .pdf file to deal with.

Could someone give the instructions to get Open Book to open the .pdf?

Any help would be very appreciated.

Margaret



On 2/6/2012 11:20 AM, Dean Martineau wrote:
 I actually recommend sending the document to conv...@robobraille.org.
 You'll get it back in a few minutes as a textfile attachment.  You can put
 codes in the subject line to specify a different return file format.
 Alternatively, you can upload the file to www.robobraille.org and specify
 the desired file format in the form.

 Dean
 Follow me on Twitter: deantopdot
 To find out about the week's news in adaptive technology, subscribe to Top
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 -Original Message-
 From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Thomas
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59 AM
 To: ju
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading Whole .PDF Document and Convenient OCR Feature

 Hi, All:

   Someone attached an important .PDF document in an e-mail that Adobe
 Reader gave me the infamous empty document message when I opened it and it
 was processed.  I'm running JAWS 13 and tried the new Convenient OCR feature
 for the first time in an effort to get something usable out of it.  Adobe
 said it is a two page document.  I pressed Control plus 1 as instructed by
 the JAWS What's New and Insert-Space, o, w, but JAWS is only reading about
 the first lines.  Could some kind person please tell me how I can get to
 hear the whole document?  I'm running Adobe Reader X on a 64 bit Windows 7
 Home Premium machine.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you,

 Margaret


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a pdf document with more than 1 column

[ckrugman]

another option would be to experiment with the reading settings that JAWS 
uses in PDF files that are usually displayed when a PDF file is opened 
unless you have chosen to not have these shown. Sometimes changing these 
settings will impact the method of how JAWS reads this information. I would 
suspect that this applies to other screen readers although I have never used 
them.

Chuck
- Original Message - 
From: Stephan, William S NWK william.s.step...@usace.army.mil

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a pdf document with more than 1 column


Greg:  If I understand, you basically want one column of text, is that 
right?


So, one way you might get this to work would be to use a scanning program
like Openbook to do OCR on your .pdf document.  You would:
open your .pdf document.
Do a control-P to print
select your scanner's import printer and hit enter.
If your scanning program is set to recognize columns, you should get what
you're looking for.

William S. Stephan
Procurement Analyst, Kansas City District National Contracting 
Organization


Building Strong(r)
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Office: 816-389-3801
FAX: 816-389-2029

Help us in Building Strong!  Please tell us how we are doing.  Visit our
Interactive Customer Evaluation (ICE) Website at:

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-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Greg 
Washington

Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a pdf document with more than 1 column

Hello everyone,
I have a pdf document that at various points in it has two columns.  When
reading it with Jaws 12.0.1158 in Acrobat Reader 9.4.4 I cannot figure out
how to read each column separately.  Right now Jaws reads continuously
through each line, treating the two columns as one line of text when the 
two

columns appear together.  How can I configure Jaws to read each column
separately when they appear on the page next to each other.
Thanks for any help in this matter.
Greg Washington
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a pdf document with more than 1 column

[Greg Washington]

What I would like to do is read the document one column at a time like two 
columns in a magazine or newspaper.  Can Jaws do that for me?
Greg
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a pdf document with more than 1 column

[Don Cher Bosch]

Have you tried changing the document reading mode to see what difference
that makes? I often change it from the let Adobe figure it out option to
'left to right, top to bottom' and get a better result. Good luck!

Cher



-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 12:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a pdf document with more than 1 column

What I would like to do is read the document one column at a time like two
columns in a magazine or newspaper.  Can Jaws do that for me?
Greg
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading a pdf document with more than 1 column

[Stephan, William S NWK]

Greg:  If I understand, you basically want one column of text, is that right?

So, one way you might get this to work would be to use a scanning program
like Openbook to do OCR on your .pdf document.  You would:
open your .pdf document.
Do a control-P to print
select your scanner's import printer and hit enter.
If your scanning program is set to recognize columns, you should get what
you're looking for.

William S. Stephan
Procurement Analyst, Kansas City District National Contracting Organization

Building Strong(r)
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers
Office: 816-389-3801
FAX: 816-389-2029

Help us in Building Strong!  Please tell us how we are doing.  Visit our
Interactive Customer Evaluation (ICE) Website at:  

http://ice.disa.mil/index.cfm?fa=cardservice_provider_id=110800service_cate
gory_id=14


-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Greg Washington
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading a pdf document with more than 1 column

Hello everyone,
I have a pdf document that at various points in it has two columns.  When
reading it with Jaws 12.0.1158 in Acrobat Reader 9.4.4 I cannot figure out
how to read each column separately.  Right now Jaws reads continuously
through each line, treating the two columns as one line of text when the two
columns appear together.  How can I configure Jaws to read each column
separately when they appear on the page next to each other.
Thanks for any help in this matter.
Greg Washington
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading a PDF document with jaws

[Victoria Vaughan]

Hi Ray or anyone who may have a copy of
Screen reader access to PDF: a users guide

I followed the link:
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_a
ccessingpdf.hcsp

But it is no longer available.

If anyone still has it, would you send it to me at:
vrvaug...@mailzone.com

I would be very grateful!

Unfortunately, even with all the wonderful help on this list, I still 
haven't gotten a handle on how to deal with PDFs.


Thank you for any help! Vicky

- Original Message - 
From: Ray Boyce rayb...@westnet.com.au

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading a PDF document with jaws



Hi Candy
Screen reader access to PDF: a users guide
Please see URL Below
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_a
ccessingpdf.hcsp

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading a PDF document with jaws

I am having trouble getting from page to page in a PDF document.  I have
never had any problem before, but please tell me how to do it.  It has 
been

a while since I did this and I must be doing something wrong.

Thanks.

Candy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading a PDF document with jaws

[Charline Smith]

On 4/30/09, Candy Lowe candysi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am having trouble getting from page to page in a PDF document.  I have
 never had any problem before, but please tell me how to do it.  It has been
 a while since I did this and I must be doing something wrong.

 Thanks.

 Candy
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Hi, I tried the link and recieved an error messege.  Did anyone else
try it or as per the norm did I just goof up somewhere along the way.
Thanks Charline

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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading a PDF document with jaws

[Ray Boyce]

Hi Candy
Screen reader access to PDF: a users guide
Please see URL Below
http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_a
ccessingpdf.hcsp

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Candy Lowe
Sent: Friday, 1 May 2009 9:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading a PDF document with jaws

I am having trouble getting from page to page in a PDF document.  I have
never had any problem before, but please tell me how to do it.  It has been
a while since I did this and I must be doing something wrong.

Thanks.

Candy
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