Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
Brian, If you have OpenOfice and Writer, can you take a PDF and have it turn it into a Word document? If yes, what Word generation would it be? Many Thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: "Brian Lee" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello, Writer (part of the OpenOffice.ORG suite) will export Word documents to PDF files. You can do a custom install and only install Writer if you don't want the other programs in the suite installed. When you pick customize you will be presented with a tree view of components. You can press spacebar on each one to choose to have the given component installed or not enabled. Of course you need to leave the suite on level 0 checked, but the programs listed on level 1 can be installed or left out of the installation. After installing Writer, you should run the JAVA accessibility bridge so it will recognize Writer as a JAVA application and then restart your system. When you open a Word document in Writer or when you create a document, open the file menu and use down arrow to the export choice. PDF will be a choice. In the next step of the wizard you might need to use the JAWS cursor and find the graphic before the "tagged PDF" choice. use a left mouse button click simulation on the graphic. use JAWS cursor to find the button to proceed at the bottom of the window and do a left click simulation on that button. It seems to do a good job tagging, as I use the accessibility version of Acrobat and there was no tagging needed for the exported PDF file. If you use Word 2007 then you can download and install the SaveAsPDFAndXPS plug-in from Microsoft and then you can save as PDF in the normal Save As dialog. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Mark Stimson" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello all, I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not tagged and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which does not covert to tags. I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. So, it looks like GhostWord is not an option. If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know of for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello Robert, There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF. There is no charge for the service. It is usually quite fast and takes only a few minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent to the person who uploaded the file to be converted. The site is www.zamzar.com There use to be a program called "GhostWord" for converting Microsoft Office 2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program installs as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have not tried it and I don't know how well it works. However, I have used www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Robert kingett" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it accessible? You may contact me by any of the following Cell # 904 302 9932 Email: kingettb...@gmail.com MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett YouTube: http://www.youtub
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
You can't! The Save as PDF add-in only works with Office 2007. On earlier versions of Office, I used a print driver which saves what you want to print to a PDF file. I used a free one called Cute PDF. The main benefit to this approach is it works from any application. The main disadvantage is it will not provide as much document structure to a properly tagged PDF file. On complicated or unusual documents the PDF document might be hard to read. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Francis E. Khan" To: Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's How do I access the Microsoft plug-in to create pdf files in Office 2003? - Original Message - From: Donald Marang To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's To add to Brian's message: Microsoft's new plug-in to save as PDF seems to work fairly well. I have not put it through it's paces yet. It claims to create accessible documents. It does have a few options, such as create PDF bookmarks automatically using either Word bookmarks or headings. I was surprised, however, that the Word styles like "Heading level 1" and so on were not recognized by JAWS in the Acrobat Reader as headings. I am glad to see Microsoft move in this direction! They also seem to allow saving in Open Office format. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Brian Lee" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > Hello, > > Writer (part of the OpenOffice.ORG suite) will export Word documents to > PDF files. You can do a custom install and only install Writer if you > don't want the other programs in the suite installed. When you pick > customize you will be presented with a tree view of components. You can > press spacebar on each one to choose to have the given component installed > or not enabled. Of course you need to leave the suite on level 0 checked, > but the programs listed on level 1 can be installed or left out of the > installation. After installing Writer, you should run the JAVA > accessibility bridge so it will recognize Writer as a JAVA application and > then restart your system. > > When you open a Word document in Writer or when you create a document, > open the file menu and use down arrow to the export choice. PDF will be a > choice. In the next step of the wizard you might need to use the JAWS > cursor and find the graphic before the "tagged PDF" choice. use a left > mouse button click simulation on the graphic. use JAWS cursor to find the > button to proceed at the bottom of the window and do a left click > simulation on that button. It seems to do a good job tagging, as I use > the accessibility version of Acrobat and there was no tagging needed for > the exported PDF file. > > If you use Word 2007 then you can download and install the SaveAsPDFAndXPS > plug-in from Microsoft and then you can save as PDF in the normal Save As > dialog. > > Take care. > > Brian Lee > brianl...@charter.net > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Stimson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > > >> Hello all, >> >> I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the >> www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. >> Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not >> tagged >> and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that >> Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion >> from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses >> another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which >> does not covert to tags. >> >> I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first >> thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is >> problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible >> PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the >> installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the >> error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other >> problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. >> So, >> it looks like GhostWord is not an option. >> >> If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know >> of
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
How do I access the Microsoft plug-in to create pdf files in Office 2003? - Original Message - From: Donald Marang To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's To add to Brian's message: Microsoft's new plug-in to save as PDF seems to work fairly well. I have not put it through it's paces yet. It claims to create accessible documents. It does have a few options, such as create PDF bookmarks automatically using either Word bookmarks or headings. I was surprised, however, that the Word styles like "Heading level 1" and so on were not recognized by JAWS in the Acrobat Reader as headings. I am glad to see Microsoft move in this direction! They also seem to allow saving in Open Office format. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Brian Lee" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > Hello, > > Writer (part of the OpenOffice.ORG suite) will export Word documents to > PDF files. You can do a custom install and only install Writer if you > don't want the other programs in the suite installed. When you pick > customize you will be presented with a tree view of components. You can > press spacebar on each one to choose to have the given component installed > or not enabled. Of course you need to leave the suite on level 0 checked, > but the programs listed on level 1 can be installed or left out of the > installation. After installing Writer, you should run the JAVA > accessibility bridge so it will recognize Writer as a JAVA application and > then restart your system. > > When you open a Word document in Writer or when you create a document, > open the file menu and use down arrow to the export choice. PDF will be a > choice. In the next step of the wizard you might need to use the JAWS > cursor and find the graphic before the "tagged PDF" choice. use a left > mouse button click simulation on the graphic. use JAWS cursor to find the > button to proceed at the bottom of the window and do a left click > simulation on that button. It seems to do a good job tagging, as I use > the accessibility version of Acrobat and there was no tagging needed for > the exported PDF file. > > If you use Word 2007 then you can download and install the SaveAsPDFAndXPS > plug-in from Microsoft and then you can save as PDF in the normal Save As > dialog. > > Take care. > > Brian Lee > brianl...@charter.net > - Original Message - > From: "Mark Stimson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > > >> Hello all, >> >> I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the >> www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. >> Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not >> tagged >> and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that >> Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion >> from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses >> another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which >> does not covert to tags. >> >> I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first >> thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is >> problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible >> PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the >> installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the >> error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other >> problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. >> So, >> it looks like GhostWord is not an option. >> >> If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know >> of >> for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. >> >> Thanks! Mark >> >> Mark Stimson, Ph.D. >> Document Accessibility Specialist >> www.DocumentAccessibility.com >> www.AccessIngenuity.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >&g
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
I was using PDF creater or tiny PDF which can print any document to PDF whether it may be word or excel. it is good and pdf documents are also accessible. On 7/5/09, Donald Marang wrote: > I poked around a little on Microsoft.com. I don't remember downloading > anything separately like I did for the compatibility pack that allows older > versions to open 2007 documents. I do remember getting a heads up on a > podcast that it was coming in a Windows Update. I found the Office 2007 > add-in on the page below. I was not able to find such an add-in for earlier > versions of Office! > > Download details: 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=4D951911-3E7E-4AE6-B059-A2E79ED87041&displaylang=en > > Don Marang > > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Hallsworth" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:43 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > > >> I'm sure Office 2007 SP1 comes with an option to save documents as PDF. >> Whether there's add-ons for previous versions I'm not sure. >> >> -- >> Chris Hallsworth >> e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com >> MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com >> Skype: chrishallsworth7266 >> Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mark Stimson" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's >> >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the >>> www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. >>> Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not >>> tagged >>> and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that >>> Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion >>> from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses >>> another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which >>> does not covert to tags. >>> >>> I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first >>> thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is >>> problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible >>> PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the >>> installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the >>> error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other >>> problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. >>> So, >>> it looks like GhostWord is not an option. >>> >>> If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know >>> of >>> for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. >>> >>> Thanks! Mark >>> >>> Mark Stimson, Ph.D. >>> Document Accessibility Specialist >>> www.DocumentAccessibility.com >>> www.AccessIngenuity.com >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com >>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM >>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's >>> >>> Hello Robert, >>> >>> There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF. There is no >>> charge for the service. It is usually quite fast and takes only a few >>> minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent >>> to >>> the person who uploaded the file to be converted. The site is >>> www.zamzar.com >>> >>> There use to be a program called "GhostWord" for converting Microsoft >>> Office >>> >>> 2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program >>> installs >>> as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other >>> formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have >>> not >>> tried it and I don't know how well it works. However, I have used >>> www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly. >>> >>> Take care. >>> >>> Brian Lee >>> brianl...@charter.net >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Ro
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
I poked around a little on Microsoft.com. I don't remember downloading anything separately like I did for the compatibility pack that allows older versions to open 2007 documents. I do remember getting a heads up on a podcast that it was coming in a Windows Update. I found the Office 2007 add-in on the page below. I was not able to find such an add-in for earlier versions of Office! Download details: 2007 Microsoft Office Add-in: Microsoft Save as PDF or XPS http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=4D951911-3E7E-4AE6-B059-A2E79ED87041&displaylang=en Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Chris Hallsworth" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's I'm sure Office 2007 SP1 comes with an option to save documents as PDF. Whether there's add-ons for previous versions I'm not sure. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk. - Original Message - From: "Mark Stimson" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello all, I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not tagged and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which does not covert to tags. I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. So, it looks like GhostWord is not an option. If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know of for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello Robert, There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF. There is no charge for the service. It is usually quite fast and takes only a few minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent to the person who uploaded the file to be converted. The site is www.zamzar.com There use to be a program called "GhostWord" for converting Microsoft Office 2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program installs as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have not tried it and I don't know how well it works. However, I have used www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Robert kingett" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it accessible? You may contact me by any of the following Cell # 904 302 9932 Email: kingettb...@gmail.com MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/nightwatcher3344 AIM: kingettblue Skype: kingettblue MSN: kingettb...@gmail.com Yahoo messenger: kingettblue, but I prefer it more if you add my msn screen name to your yahoo list. In my spare time I write stories. I am a aspiring author. one of the places where you can find and read and review my work even if you do not have an account us at Fictionpress. http://www.fictionpress.com/u/534188/shadowdog1 I Host a podcast called the 4 Yo information podcast. You can check out the site at http://www.freewebs.com/4yoinformation/ And I also do another podcast called the Accessibility in Mind Podcast. Check out the site at http://www.gcast.com/u/kingettblue/main For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
I'm sure Office 2007 SP1 comes with an option to save documents as PDF. Whether there's add-ons for previous versions I'm not sure. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk. - Original Message - From: "Mark Stimson" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 11:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello all, I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not tagged and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which does not covert to tags. I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. So, it looks like GhostWord is not an option. If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know of for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello Robert, There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF. There is no charge for the service. It is usually quite fast and takes only a few minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent to the person who uploaded the file to be converted. The site is www.zamzar.com There use to be a program called "GhostWord" for converting Microsoft Office 2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program installs as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have not tried it and I don't know how well it works. However, I have used www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Robert kingett" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it accessible? You may contact me by any of the following Cell # 904 302 9932 Email: kingettb...@gmail.com MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/nightwatcher3344 AIM: kingettblue Skype: kingettblue MSN: kingettb...@gmail.com Yahoo messenger: kingettblue, but I prefer it more if you add my msn screen name to your yahoo list. In my spare time I write stories. I am a aspiring author. one of the places where you can find and read and review my work even if you do not have an account us at Fictionpress. http://www.fictionpress.com/u/534188/shadowdog1 I Host a podcast called the 4 Yo information podcast. You can check out the site at http://www.freewebs.com/4yoinformation/ And I also do another podcast called the Accessibility in Mind Podcast. Check out the site at http://www.gcast.com/u/kingettblue/main For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ NOD32 4206 (20090701) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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You can but you can't save the form. You'd have to fill it out and either submit it online or print it off. -- Chris Hallsworth e-mail: christopher...@googlemail.com MSN: ch9...@hotmail.com Skype: chrishallsworth7266 Join TAFN by visiting www.tafn.org.uk. - Original Message - From: "Ming" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's hey! how can I fill the form widch is using PDF format. can I do it with adobe reader? Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2009年7月3日 星期五，Donald Marang 寫道﹕ 寄件人: Donald Marang 主題: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 日期: 2009年7月3日,星期五,下午2:22 To add to Brian's message: Microsoft's new plug-in to save as PDF seems to work fairly well. I have not put it through it's paces yet. It claims to create accessible documents. It does have a few options, such as create PDF bookmarks automatically using either Word bookmarks or headings. I was surprised, however, that the Word styles like "Heading level 1" and so on were not recognized by JAWS in the Acrobat Reader as headings. I am glad to see Microsoft move in this direction! They also seem to allow saving in Open Office format. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Brian Lee" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > Hello, > > Writer (part of the OpenOffice.ORG suite) will export Word documents to PDF files. You can do a custom install and only install Writer if you don't want the other programs in the suite installed. When you pick customize you will be presented with a tree view of components. You can press spacebar on each one to choose to have the given component installed or not enabled. Of course you need to leave the suite on level 0 checked, but the programs listed on level 1 can be installed or left out of the installation. After installing Writer, you should run the JAVA accessibility bridge so it will recognize Writer as a JAVA application and then restart your system. > > When you open a Word document in Writer or when you create a document, open the file menu and use down arrow to the export choice. PDF will be a choice. In the next step of the wizard you might need to use the JAWS cursor and find the graphic before the "tagged PDF" choice. use a left mouse button click simulation on the graphic. use JAWS cursor to find the button to proceed at the bottom of the window and do a left click simulation on that button. It seems to do a good job tagging, as I use the accessibility version of Acrobat and there was no tagging needed for the exported PDF file. > > If you use Word 2007 then you can download and install the SaveAsPDFAndXPS plug-in from Microsoft and then you can save as PDF in the normal Save As dialog. > > Take care. > > Brian Lee > brianl...@charter.net > ----- Original Message - From: "Mark Stimson" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > > >> Hello all, >> >> I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the >> www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. >> Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not tagged >> and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that >> Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion >> from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses >> another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which >> does not covert to tags. >> >> I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first >> thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is >> problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible >> PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the >> installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the >> error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other >> problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. So, >> it looks like GhostWord is not an option. >> >> If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know of >> for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. >> >> Thanks! Mark >> >> Mark Stimson, Ph.D. >> Document Accessibility Specialist >> www.DocumentAccessibility.com >> www.AccessIngenuity.com >> >> -Original Message- >> From: jaws-users-lis
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hey! how can I fill the form widch is using PDF format. can I do it with adobe reader? Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2009年7月3日 星期五，Donald Marang 寫道﹕ > 寄件人: Donald Marang > 主題: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > 日期: 2009年7月3日,星期五,下午2:22 > To add to Brian's message: > > Microsoft's new plug-in to save as PDF seems to work fairly > well. I have not put it through it's paces yet. > It claims to create accessible documents. It does have > a few options, such as create PDF bookmarks automatically > using either Word bookmarks or headings. I was > surprised, however, that the Word styles like "Heading level > 1" and so on were not recognized by JAWS in the Acrobat > Reader as headings. I am glad to see Microsoft move in > this direction! They also seem to allow saving in Open > Office format. > > Don Marang > > > - Original Message - From: "Brian Lee" > To: > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:01 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > > > > Hello, > > > > Writer (part of the OpenOffice.ORG suite) will export > Word documents to PDF files. You can do a custom > install and only install Writer if you don't want the other > programs in the suite installed. When you pick > customize you will be presented with a tree view of > components. You can press spacebar on each one to > choose to have the given component installed or not > enabled. Of course you need to leave the suite on > level 0 checked, but the programs listed on level 1 can be > installed or left out of the installation. After > installing Writer, you should run the JAVA accessibility > bridge so it will recognize Writer as a JAVA application and > then restart your system. > > > > When you open a Word document in Writer or when you > create a document, open the file menu and use down arrow to > the export choice. PDF will be a choice. In the > next step of the wizard you might need to use the JAWS > cursor and find the graphic before the "tagged PDF" > choice. use a left mouse button click simulation on > the graphic. use JAWS cursor to find the button to > proceed at the bottom of the window and do a left click > simulation on that button. It seems to do a good job > tagging, as I use the accessibility version of Acrobat and > there was no tagging needed for the exported PDF file. > > > > If you use Word 2007 then you can download and install > the SaveAsPDFAndXPS plug-in from Microsoft and then you can > save as PDF in the normal Save As dialog. > > > > Take care. > > > > Brian Lee > > brianl...@charter.net > > - Original Message - From: "Mark Stimson" > > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > > > > > >> Hello all, > >> > >> I just wanted to share my experience these > tools. I tried the > >> www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not > create an accessible pdf. > >> Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf > file, the pdf was not tagged > >> and thus not accessible. To be a little > "techie", the difference is that > >> Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF > Maker" for the conversion > >> from doc to pdf, which does the accessible > tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses > >> another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" > or "Creator v2.1", which > >> does not covert to tags. > >> > >> I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software > download, and the first > >> thing I noticed is that the most recent file is > from 2004. This is > >> problematic because many of the tagging features > necessary for accessible > >> PDFs where not really in the market then. > When I tried to open the > >> installation file for the most recent version > (2.1), I keep getting the > >> error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or > corrupted". The other > >> problem I noticed is that it will only work with > Word 2000 or Word 98. So, > >> it looks like GhostWord is not an option. > >> > >> If there is anyone out there that knows of any > other software they know of > >> for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let > me know. > >> > >> Thanks! Mark > >> > >> Mark Stimson, Ph.D. > >> Document A
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
To add to Brian's message: Microsoft's new plug-in to save as PDF seems to work fairly well. I have not put it through it's paces yet. It claims to create accessible documents. It does have a few options, such as create PDF bookmarks automatically using either Word bookmarks or headings. I was surprised, however, that the Word styles like "Heading level 1" and so on were not recognized by JAWS in the Acrobat Reader as headings. I am glad to see Microsoft move in this direction! They also seem to allow saving in Open Office format. Don Marang - Original Message - From: "Brian Lee" To: Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello, Writer (part of the OpenOffice.ORG suite) will export Word documents to PDF files. You can do a custom install and only install Writer if you don't want the other programs in the suite installed. When you pick customize you will be presented with a tree view of components. You can press spacebar on each one to choose to have the given component installed or not enabled. Of course you need to leave the suite on level 0 checked, but the programs listed on level 1 can be installed or left out of the installation. After installing Writer, you should run the JAVA accessibility bridge so it will recognize Writer as a JAVA application and then restart your system. When you open a Word document in Writer or when you create a document, open the file menu and use down arrow to the export choice. PDF will be a choice. In the next step of the wizard you might need to use the JAWS cursor and find the graphic before the "tagged PDF" choice. use a left mouse button click simulation on the graphic. use JAWS cursor to find the button to proceed at the bottom of the window and do a left click simulation on that button. It seems to do a good job tagging, as I use the accessibility version of Acrobat and there was no tagging needed for the exported PDF file. If you use Word 2007 then you can download and install the SaveAsPDFAndXPS plug-in from Microsoft and then you can save as PDF in the normal Save As dialog. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Mark Stimson" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello all, I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not tagged and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which does not covert to tags. I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. So, it looks like GhostWord is not an option. If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know of for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello Robert, There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF. There is no charge for the service. It is usually quite fast and takes only a few minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent to the person who uploaded the file to be converted. The site is www.zamzar.com There use to be a program called "GhostWord" for converting Microsoft Office 2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program installs as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have not tried it and I don't know how well it works. However, I have used www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Robert kingett" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 0
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
Hello, Writer (part of the OpenOffice.ORG suite) will export Word documents to PDF files. You can do a custom install and only install Writer if you don't want the other programs in the suite installed. When you pick customize you will be presented with a tree view of components. You can press spacebar on each one to choose to have the given component installed or not enabled. Of course you need to leave the suite on level 0 checked, but the programs listed on level 1 can be installed or left out of the installation. After installing Writer, you should run the JAVA accessibility bridge so it will recognize Writer as a JAVA application and then restart your system. When you open a Word document in Writer or when you create a document, open the file menu and use down arrow to the export choice. PDF will be a choice. In the next step of the wizard you might need to use the JAWS cursor and find the graphic before the "tagged PDF" choice. use a left mouse button click simulation on the graphic. use JAWS cursor to find the button to proceed at the bottom of the window and do a left click simulation on that button. It seems to do a good job tagging, as I use the accessibility version of Acrobat and there was no tagging needed for the exported PDF file. If you use Word 2007 then you can download and install the SaveAsPDFAndXPS plug-in from Microsoft and then you can save as PDF in the normal Save As dialog. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Mark Stimson" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello all, I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not tagged and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which does not covert to tags. I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. So, it looks like GhostWord is not an option. If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know of for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello Robert, There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF. There is no charge for the service. It is usually quite fast and takes only a few minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent to the person who uploaded the file to be converted. The site is www.zamzar.com There use to be a program called "GhostWord" for converting Microsoft Office 2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program installs as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have not tried it and I don't know how well it works. However, I have used www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Robert kingett" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it accessible? You may contact me by any of the following Cell # 904 302 9932 Email: kingettb...@gmail.com MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/nightwatcher3344 AIM: kingettblue Skype: kingettblue MSN: kingettb...@gmail.com Yahoo messenger: kingettblue, but I prefer it more if you add my msn screen name to your yahoo list. In my spare time I write stories. I am a aspiring author. one of the places where you can find and read and review my work even i
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
Hello all, I just wanted to share my experience these tools. I tried the www.zamzar.com online service, and it did not create an accessible pdf. Although it did convert Word doc files to a pdf file, the pdf was not tagged and thus not accessible. To be a little "techie", the difference is that Acrobat Standard/Pro uses a plugin called "PDF Maker" for the conversion from doc to pdf, which does the accessible tagging. Whereas, Zamzar uses another conversion tool called "e-PDF Converter" or "Creator v2.1", which does not covert to tags. I also tried GhostWord, which is a free software download, and the first thing I noticed is that the most recent file is from 2004. This is problematic because many of the tagging features necessary for accessible PDFs where not really in the market then. When I tried to open the installation file for the most recent version (2.1), I keep getting the error message "The Compressed Folder is invalid or corrupted". The other problem I noticed is that it will only work with Word 2000 or Word 98. So, it looks like GhostWord is not an option. If there is anyone out there that knows of any other software they know of for doc to accessible pdf conversion, please let me know. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lee Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's Hello Robert, There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF. There is no charge for the service. It is usually quite fast and takes only a few minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent to the person who uploaded the file to be converted. The site is www.zamzar.com There use to be a program called "GhostWord" for converting Microsoft Office 2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program installs as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have not tried it and I don't know how well it works. However, I have used www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Robert kingett" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's > how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word > 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it > accessible? > You may contact me by any of the following > > Cell # 904 302 9932 > Email: kingettb...@gmail.com > MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert > Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett > YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/nightwatcher3344 > > AIM: kingettblue > Skype: kingettblue > MSN: kingettb...@gmail.com > Yahoo messenger: kingettblue, but I prefer it more if you add my msn > screen > name to your yahoo list. > > In my spare time I write stories. I am a aspiring author. one of the > places > where you can find and read and review my work even if you do not have an > account us at Fictionpress. > > http://www.fictionpress.com/u/534188/shadowdog1 > > I Host a podcast called the 4 Yo information podcast. You can check out > the > site at > > http://www.freewebs.com/4yoinformation/ > > And I also do another podcast called the Accessibility in Mind Podcast. > Check out the site at > > http://www.gcast.com/u/kingettblue/main > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ NOD32 4206 (20090701) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Please disregard the last message. Everett Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 1-Jul-09, at 7:21 PM, Mark Stimson wrote: Hi there, Usually, in order to make a PDF file you would use Adobe Acrobat Standard or Pro. Now, there are free PDF conversion programs out there, but as far as I know, none of those free programs convert the structure you have in Word into "Tags" (that is, the accessible format structure Adobe PDFs use). This means, any descriptions of images are gone; columns are gone, headers and footers gone, tables gone, and on and on. All the user would hear is plain text, and if you are using columns, tables, text boxes, headers, footers, and so on, the order of the text will be out of order, and in some cases will sound like rubbish. If there is anyone out there that knows of a program or method of converting a Word file into an accessible PDF (and hence, the Word's style structure into PDF tags), please let me know. I would be very interested in testing it. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robert kingett Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it accessible? You may contact me by any of the following Cell # 904 302 9932 Email: kingettb...@gmail.com MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/nightwatcher3344 AIM: kingettblue Skype: kingettblue MSN: kingettb...@gmail.com Yahoo messenger: kingettblue, but I prefer it more if you add my msn screen name to your yahoo list. In my spare time I write stories. I am a aspiring author. one of the places where you can find and read and review my work even if you do not have an account us at Fictionpress. http://www.fictionpress.com/u/534188/shadowdog1 I Host a podcast called the 4 Yo information podcast. You can check out the site at http://www.freewebs.com/4yoinformation/ And I also do another podcast called the Accessibility in Mind Podcast. Check out the site at http://www.gcast.com/u/kingettblue/main For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ NOD32 4205 (20090701) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Good evening Gary, Let's say 40 minutes. 20 minutes to present and 20 to take questions. Also, if you want to send an announcemenet to the list letting people know that I will be presenting on Drupal and asking for questions in advance i will be better prepared to provide the information that people are looking for. Thanks, Everett Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 1-Jul-09, at 7:21 PM, Mark Stimson wrote: Hi there, Usually, in order to make a PDF file you would use Adobe Acrobat Standard or Pro. Now, there are free PDF conversion programs out there, but as far as I know, none of those free programs convert the structure you have in Word into "Tags" (that is, the accessible format structure Adobe PDFs use). This means, any descriptions of images are gone; columns are gone, headers and footers gone, tables gone, and on and on. All the user would hear is plain text, and if you are using columns, tables, text boxes, headers, footers, and so on, the order of the text will be out of order, and in some cases will sound like rubbish. If there is anyone out there that knows of a program or method of converting a Word file into an accessible PDF (and hence, the Word's style structure into PDF tags), please let me know. I would be very interested in testing it. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robert kingett Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it accessible? You may contact me by any of the following Cell # 904 302 9932 Email: kingettb...@gmail.com MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/nightwatcher3344 AIM: kingettblue Skype: kingettblue MSN: kingettb...@gmail.com Yahoo messenger: kingettblue, but I prefer it more if you add my msn screen name to your yahoo list. In my spare time I write stories. I am a aspiring author. one of the places where you can find and read and review my work even if you do not have an account us at Fictionpress. http://www.fictionpress.com/u/534188/shadowdog1 I Host a podcast called the 4 Yo information podcast. You can check out the site at http://www.freewebs.com/4yoinformation/ And I also do another podcast called the Accessibility in Mind Podcast. Check out the site at http://www.gcast.com/u/kingettblue/main For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ NOD32 4205 (20090701) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
Hello Robert, There is a web site that will convert word documents to PDF. There is no charge for the service. It is usually quite fast and takes only a few minutes. When conversion is done an Email with a download link is sent to the person who uploaded the file to be converted. The site is www.zamzar.com There use to be a program called "Ghostword" for converting Microsoft Office 2003 files to PDF. I have not used it, but apparently the program installs as a printer and works similarly to those that convert from PDF to other formats. It should be available on www.sourceforge.net. Again, I have not tried it and I don't know how well it works. However, I have used www.zamzar .com and received PDF files back quite quickly. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net - Original Message - From: "Robert kingett" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it accessible? You may contact me by any of the following Cell # 904 302 9932 Email: kingettb...@gmail.com MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/nightwatcher3344 AIM: kingettblue Skype: kingettblue MSN: kingettb...@gmail.com Yahoo messenger: kingettblue, but I prefer it more if you add my msn screen name to your yahoo list. In my spare time I write stories. I am a aspiring author. one of the places where you can find and read and review my work even if you do not have an account us at Fictionpress. http://www.fictionpress.com/u/534188/shadowdog1 I Host a podcast called the 4 Yo information podcast. You can check out the site at http://www.freewebs.com/4yoinformation/ And I also do another podcast called the Accessibility in Mind Podcast. Check out the site at http://www.gcast.com/u/kingettblue/main For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's
Hi there, Usually, in order to make a PDF file you would use Adobe Acrobat Standard or Pro. Now, there are free PDF conversion programs out there, but as far as I know, none of those free programs convert the structure you have in Word into "Tags" (that is, the accessible format structure Adobe PDFs use). This means, any descriptions of images are gone; columns are gone, headers and footers gone, tables gone, and on and on. All the user would hear is plain text, and if you are using columns, tables, text boxes, headers, footers, and so on, the order of the text will be out of order, and in some cases will sound like rubbish. If there is anyone out there that knows of a program or method of converting a Word file into an accessible PDF (and hence, the Word's style structure into PDF tags), please let me know. I would be very interested in testing it. Thanks! Mark Mark Stimson, Ph.D. Document Accessibility Specialist www.DocumentAccessibility.com www.AccessIngenuity.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Robert kingett Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible PDF's how do I make my PDF accessible without adobe acrobat? I also have ms word 2003. is there a way I can just save my doc files as PDF, and have it accessible? You may contact me by any of the following Cell # 904 302 9932 Email: kingettb...@gmail.com MySpace: www.myspace.com/kingettrobert Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/rkingett YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/nightwatcher3344 AIM: kingettblue Skype: kingettblue MSN: kingettb...@gmail.com Yahoo messenger: kingettblue, but I prefer it more if you add my msn screen name to your yahoo list. In my spare time I write stories. I am a aspiring author. one of the places where you can find and read and review my work even if you do not have an account us at Fictionpress. http://www.fictionpress.com/u/534188/shadowdog1 I Host a podcast called the 4 Yo information podcast. You can check out the site at http://www.freewebs.com/4yoinformation/ And I also do another podcast called the Accessibility in Mind Podcast. Check out the site at http://www.gcast.com/u/kingettblue/main For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ NOD32 4205 (20090701) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
