Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-27 Thread michael's emails

Hi Lenny i have a HP notebook with full keyboard.
Wen i first got my Hp the FN key was on by default in the bios.
So wen its on you have to press the FN key at the same time as alt f4.
I actually got my bios changed so i do not have to do this.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread David Ferrin
Guess it is a good thing I didn't get too fancy with my calculations, thanks 
Mike.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button


Why 3600. I'm confused there.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.

Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread David Ferrin
-f forces all running programs to shutdown. -t is for the time in seconds as 
was previously mentioned. Last but not least -s is for shutdown and -r is 
for reboot.


-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hi David,

What are the switches, what do they stand for?

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.
Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread Scorpio

Hi Lenny,

There are a few things that I've experienced that have helped me in a 
similar situation, especially if your laptop is a fairly new one.


First and foremost, you should confirm that the function, or FN key is not 
active.  In other words, are you able to shut down an application using the 
alt+F4 command, or do you have to press a third key to accomplish this task.


If the former, you need do nothing, if the latter, depending on which 
company your laptop is from, you may be able to switch this function off, 
either by using the laptop's native software for modifying it's settings, 
these are usually provided by the brand of your laptop, i.e. Toshiba, HP, 
Dell, etc.  If these tools are not available to you, or you don't have 
access t the feature, then you must go through the BIOS set up, and make the 
changes there.


I'm sorry, but I cannot provide detailed instructions on how to do this, as 
it's been a long time since I've seen the BIOS set up screen, but the status 
of the function keys are clearly labeled, so, if you have sighted 
assistance, they can explain what's on the screen, and you can go from 
there.  There is a little section of the BIOS screen that houses an 
explanation of what each item in the list allows you to change, so if the 
person uses the arrow keys or mouse to single click on any option, the 
explanation will appear on the right side of the screen.  I don't think 
that's changed in the years I've lost my sight.


Second thing you want to examine is if you may have another application open 
in the background that you may not be aware of.  On my friend's laptop, and 
on my own that I purchased a few years ago, I found that the camera 
application was taking over the screen, so when ever I had shut down all 
applications, it turned out that I hadn't even though Jaws reported that I 
had landed on the desktop, I hadn't, and had landed on the camera 
application, which was always on top of the OS, thus constantly frustrating 
my efforts to go to the desktop once my applications were closed.


This option can be shut down on two ways, by going to the task manager with 
control+shift+escape, then, once in the task manager window, control+tab to 
the services tab, arrow down the list of services until you find the one 
that deals with the camera, and set it to manual.  This may or may not be 
desirable, especially if you have sighted people who use the camera function 
for Skype or some other video application.  The other way to shut down this 
feature is to go through the MS Configuration file, which you can get to 
using the Windows+R command, then typing in, "msconfig", without the quotes, 
and pressing enter.


On the resulting screen, control+tab to the services tab, and the start-up 
tab, and uncheck any items that have to do with the camera.  Again, same 
caveat as the above for sighted users of the computer.


One thing though, if you get to the services tab and you find less than 
seventy-five items in the list, then you may have the checkbox to hide all 
Microsoft services checked, so press the spacebar to uncheck it, then 
shift+tab back to the list and you should now see a large number of items in 
the list.


The third and final thing you may have going on is that you may have the 
taskbar set to hide until you arrow to it, or you press the start key. 
Fortunately, this can readily be fixed by pressing windows key+I, then in 
the search bar, type "taskbar" without the quotes, and press enter.  The 
result should automatically be spoken by Jaws, which is taskbar settings, so 
press enter to go directly to that option in your settings.


When the page loads up, you'll land on the search field, so tab around, and 
you'll land on taskbar, which is where you want to be.


Keep tabbing until you find the above options, and make sure they are 
unchecked.  You'll know they are unchecked if Jaws reads out that they are 
simple buttons.  If they are checked, Jaws will report it as so.


Hopefully, any of all of the above will allow you to return to what you're 
most comfortable with.  Good luck.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread Scorpio

Hi David,

What are the switches, what do they stand for?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.
Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread David Whitehead
Hello Lenny;

If you wish to create a shutdown shortcut,
Try the following;

1, desktop,
Ctrl+spacebar to unselect any icon,

2, applications key, down arrow enter on, new sub-menu,
Now choose shortcut,

3, in the edit box type in,
Shutdown -s -t 0

Now tab next, you can give the shortcut a name, example,
Shortcut.exe,
Now go to finish.
Now if you desire, you could create a hotkey for the shortcut.
If you wanted to have a shortcut to restart you would use the same steps,
instead of zero at the end, use, 01
Hope this helps.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread Kimsan Song
ah, ok.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Mike B. <mb69ma...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message - 
> From: Kimsan
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
> 
> 
> Why 3600. I'm confused there.
> 
> Respectfully,
> Kimsan Song
> kimsans...@icloud.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
> 
> The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:
> 
> shutdown -s -f -t 00
> 
> shutdown -r -f -t 00
> 
> Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
> So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.
> 
> Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
> because it is assumed at that point.
> 
> I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
> or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Lenny McHugh
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
> To: JFW List
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
> 
> I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
> latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
> laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
> desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
> the running apps and also on the desktop.
> Any help appreciated.
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread Mike B.
Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Kimsan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button


Why 3600. I'm confused there.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away.
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.

Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread Kimsan
Why 3600. I'm confused there.

Respectfully,
Kimsan Song
kimsans...@icloud.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. 
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600.

Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch
because it is assumed at that point.

I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread jobennett39
to shut down my windows 10 laptop I have to press the start menu key then 
tab twice and come down with the cursor to where it says power, enter on 
power and then I think I come down once to where it says shut down and enter 
there.  Hopefully that should do the trick for you.  It took me ages to find 
it.


Jo

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hello;
Not sure why alt+f4 doesn't work from desktop, you could try,
Windows-key+x,
Then press the letters, UU
Or, you could create a shortcut for shutdown,
Shutdown command;
shutdown /s /t 0
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread David Whitehead
Hello;
Not sure why alt+f4 doesn't work from desktop, you could try,
Windows-key+x,
Then press the letters, UU
Or, you could create a shortcut for shutdown,
Shutdown command;
shutdown /s /t 0
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Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread Lenny McHugh

I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless.

-Original Message- 
From: michaels mail

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread Lenny McHugh

I just get an error tone.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerry Ellis 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:34 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button 


Hi,

Try hitting alt with X then u then u again.



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

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How will you know when you get there?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of michaels mail
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread Gerry Ellis
Hi,

Try hitting alt with X then u then u again.



Take care,

Gerry Ellis

If you don't know where you're going,
How will you know when you get there?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of michaels mail
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the
left control key.
Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


---

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There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread michaels mail
   Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the 
left control key.

Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well.
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


---

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Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

2017-05-26 Thread David Ferrin

The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system:

shutdown -s -f -t 00

shutdown -r -f -t 00

Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. 
So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. 
Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch 
because it is assumed at that point.


I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine 
or not. It is just something to make life a little easier.


-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button

I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard,
latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the
laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the
desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in
the running apps and also on the desktop.
Any help appreciated.


---

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