Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-07 Thread Scott M Stark
You can start now only if you add a change note to sourceforge indicating this
for 4.0. I would like a very functional JMX microkernel to run under 1.3. Exactly
what that entails will be upto the core service developers to decide where JDK
1.4 specific APIs are essential.


Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 10:36 AM
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> So when can I start to check in code into HEAD that will only build 1.4?
> 
> What parts of the server must run on 1.3?
> 
> After spending an entire day writing a lame IdentityHashMap (and I 
> haven't even begun to test it) I am leaning to requiring 1.4 for the 
> new persistence framework.  I think David's DTM logging and recovery 
> stuff will require NIO in 1.4.
> 
> -dain



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Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-07 Thread Jason Dillon
Can we just make it official right now that HEAD is 1.4 only?

--jason

On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 01:36  AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

So when can I start to check in code into HEAD that will only build 
1.4?

What parts of the server must run on 1.3?

After spending an entire day writing a lame IdentityHashMap (and I 
haven't even begun to test it) I am leaning to requiring 1.4 for the 
new persistence framework.  I think David's DTM logging and recovery 
stuff will require NIO in 1.4.

-dain

On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 01:12 AM, Scott M Stark wrote:

Agreed. I don't want that management headache propagated to 4.0.


Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC

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I got no problem making 99% of CMP working on 1.3 (basicially 
anything
that does not require JDBC3). It is just the #ifdef stuff I hate.

-dain


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Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-07 Thread Dain Sundstrom
So when can I start to check in code into HEAD that will only build 1.4?

What parts of the server must run on 1.3?

After spending an entire day writing a lame IdentityHashMap (and I 
haven't even begun to test it) I am leaning to requiring 1.4 for the 
new persistence framework.  I think David's DTM logging and recovery 
stuff will require NIO in 1.4.

-dain

On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 01:12 AM, Scott M Stark wrote:

Agreed. I don't want that management headache propagated to 4.0.


Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC

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Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

I got no problem making 99% of CMP working on 1.3 (basicially anything
that does not require JDBC3). It is just the #ifdef stuff I hate.
-dain


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RE: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-07 Thread Bill Burke
Cool, and I'll won't feeling like an asshole for yelling at people for
breaking the build.

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> M Stark
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>
> Agreed. I don't want that management headache propagated to 4.0.
>
> 
> Scott Stark
> Chief Technology Officer
> JBoss Group, LLC
> 
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:51 PM
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>
>
> > I got no problem making 99% of CMP working on 1.3 (basicially anything
> > that does not require JDBC3). It is just the #ifdef stuff I hate.
> >
> > -dain
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Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-06 Thread Scott M Stark
Agreed. I don't want that management headache propagated to 4.0.


Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build


> I got no problem making 99% of CMP working on 1.3 (basicially anything 
> that does not require JDBC3). It is just the #ifdef stuff I hate.
> 
> -dain



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RE: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-06 Thread Nathan Phelps
Make that 4 cheers!

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3 cheers for Scott!



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Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-06 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I got no problem making 99% of CMP working on 1.3 (basicially anything 
that does not require JDBC3). It is just the #ifdef stuff I hate.

-dain

On Thursday, March 6, 2003, at 10:49 PM, Scott M Stark wrote:

Originally I said I thought we needed to keep 4.0 buildable by JDK 1.3,
but I'm starting to think otherwise. I'm about to give in to this 
demand.
If users cannot switch to JDK 1.4 then I'm willing to say they cannot
make use of the full set of features in 4.0. The remaining question I 
had
was can the core services remain binary compatible with JDK 1.3,
meaning JMX, AOP, deployers, etc. required to have a highly functional
microkernel for building on top of.


Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC

- Original Message -
From: "Dain Sundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

Is JDK 1.4 now required to build?  If not when are we going to add 
this
requirement?

I need an IdentityHashMap for the ObjectCopier and would like to
encapsulate and delegate to IdentityHashMap for JDK 1.4 (because of
speed) and for JDK 1.3 I will just is an IdentityKey wrapper.  This
code will be way easier to write if I can assume that we are compiling
in 1.4.
For now I will just write the 1.3 version.

-dain


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Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-06 Thread Juha-P Lindfors

There's no requirement from JMX to use 1.4 yet.
(excluding JSR160/Remoting)

On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Scott M Stark wrote:

> Originally I said I thought we needed to keep 4.0 buildable by JDK 1.3,
> but I'm starting to think otherwise. I'm about to give in to this demand.
> If users cannot switch to JDK 1.4 then I'm willing to say they cannot
> make use of the full set of features in 4.0. The remaining question I had
> was can the core services remain binary compatible with JDK 1.3,
> meaning JMX, AOP, deployers, etc. required to have a highly functional
> microkernel for building on top of.
>
> 
> Scott Stark
> Chief Technology Officer
> JBoss Group, LLC
> 
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dain Sundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:59 AM
> Subject: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build
>
>
> > Is JDK 1.4 now required to build?  If not when are we going to add this
> > requirement?
> >
> > I need an IdentityHashMap for the ObjectCopier and would like to
> > encapsulate and delegate to IdentityHashMap for JDK 1.4 (because of
> > speed) and for JDK 1.3 I will just is an IdentityKey wrapper.  This
> > code will be way easier to write if I can assume that we are compiling
> > in 1.4.
> >
> > For now I will just write the 1.3 version.
> >
> > -dain
>
>
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RE: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-06 Thread Tom Elrod
3 cheers for Scott!  

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Behalf Of Scott
> M Stark
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 11:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build
> 
> 
> Originally I said I thought we needed to keep 4.0 buildable 
> by JDK 1.3,
> but I'm starting to think otherwise. I'm about to give in to 
> this demand.
> If users cannot switch to JDK 1.4 then I'm willing to say they cannot
> make use of the full set of features in 4.0. The remaining 
> question I had
> was can the core services remain binary compatible with JDK 1.3,
> meaning JMX, AOP, deployers, etc. required to have a highly functional
> microkernel for building on top of.
> 
> 
> Scott Stark
> Chief Technology Officer
> JBoss Group, LLC
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dain Sundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:59 AM
> Subject: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build
> 
> 
> > Is JDK 1.4 now required to build?  If not when are we going 
> to add this 
> > requirement?
> > 
> > I need an IdentityHashMap for the ObjectCopier and would like to 
> > encapsulate and delegate to IdentityHashMap for JDK 1.4 (because of 
> > speed) and for JDK 1.3 I will just is an IdentityKey wrapper.  This 
> > code will be way easier to write if I can assume that we 
> are compiling 
> > in 1.4.
> > 
> > For now I will just write the 1.3 version.
> > 
> > -dain 
> 
> 
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Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-06 Thread Scott M Stark
Originally I said I thought we needed to keep 4.0 buildable by JDK 1.3,
but I'm starting to think otherwise. I'm about to give in to this demand.
If users cannot switch to JDK 1.4 then I'm willing to say they cannot
make use of the full set of features in 4.0. The remaining question I had
was can the core services remain binary compatible with JDK 1.3,
meaning JMX, AOP, deployers, etc. required to have a highly functional
microkernel for building on top of.


Scott Stark
Chief Technology Officer
JBoss Group, LLC


- Original Message - 
From: "Dain Sundstrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build


> Is JDK 1.4 now required to build?  If not when are we going to add this 
> requirement?
> 
> I need an IdentityHashMap for the ObjectCopier and would like to 
> encapsulate and delegate to IdentityHashMap for JDK 1.4 (because of 
> speed) and for JDK 1.3 I will just is an IdentityKey wrapper.  This 
> code will be way easier to write if I can assume that we are compiling 
> in 1.4.
> 
> For now I will just write the 1.3 version.
> 
> -dain 



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RE: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-06 Thread Tom Elrod
+2, but already out ranked in earlier thread on same topic

-Tom

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> Dillon
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>
>
> +1 to required JDK 1.4 for HEAD
>
> --jason
>
>
> On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 12:59  AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
>
> > Is JDK 1.4 now required to build?  If not when are we going to add
> > this requirement?
> >
> > I need an IdentityHashMap for the ObjectCopier and would like to
> > encapsulate and delegate to IdentityHashMap for JDK 1.4 (because of
> > speed) and for JDK 1.3 I will just is an IdentityKey wrapper.  This
> > code will be way easier to write if I can assume that we
> are compiling
> > in 1.4.
> >
> > For now I will just write the 1.3 version.
> >
> > -dain
> >
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Re: [JBoss-dev] Is JDK 1.4 required to build

2003-03-06 Thread Jason Dillon
+1 to required JDK 1.4 for HEAD

--jason

On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 12:59  AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote:

Is JDK 1.4 now required to build?  If not when are we going to add 
this requirement?

I need an IdentityHashMap for the ObjectCopier and would like to 
encapsulate and delegate to IdentityHashMap for JDK 1.4 (because of 
speed) and for JDK 1.3 I will just is an IdentityKey wrapper.  This 
code will be way easier to write if I can assume that we are compiling 
in 1.4.

For now I will just write the 1.3 version.

-dain

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