[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: how to differentiate different ends ?

2009-11-02 Thread npirard
btw, do not hesitate to vote for the JIRA issue Joram filed ;-)

since it should not be very complicated to fix, it should be easily patchable 
even before jbpm team releases the fix.

I admit, however, I have not yet found time to try it

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: errors with logging into console - jbpm-4.1

2009-10-16 Thread npirard
sorry for my poor posting, I read too quickly, did not realize that your 
question was about the console

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: About HistoryService

2009-10-16 Thread npirard
here a Jira query (thanks kukeltje) that may show you what is not yet 
implemented :
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/sr/jira.issueviews:searchrequest-printable/temp/SearchRequest.html?query=history&summary=true&description=true&body=true&pid=10052&status=1&tempMax=25

do not hesitate to vote :-)

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: errors with logging into console - jbpm-4.1

2009-10-16 Thread npirard
I would say it may have something to do with the jbpm.hibernate.cfg.xml

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: How to get history variables and processInstanceId from

2009-10-06 Thread npirard
hey, do not let managers read that holiday requests may be unimportant !! ;-)))

> I'll ask one of the core devs to respond.

thanks! I promise I will really give at least a serious look into the code this 
week

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: How to get history variables and processInstanceId from

2009-10-06 Thread npirard
of course I intend to have a look at the code, if I get time (hahaha ;-) (and 
even more time to set up a jbpm dev environment, write tests and everything). 
It is too frustrating otherwise, and probably not very complicated, as you say

but there is something else I do not really get : if jbpm 4 has been released 
without the full history functionality, I suppose it should not be considered 
that important by BPM experts, then I suppose I misunderstood or mis-conceived 
something, as a BPM-newbie, since I feel I really need it. Well, hopefully with 
experience I will get wisdom too ;-)

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: How to get history variables and processInstanceId from

2009-10-02 Thread npirard
[jBPM 4]

hello,

I think I need access to history variables too. Here is my need :
_ I create a process instance that does some stuff, and in particular creates a 
business object I will need to retrieve  (an entity stored somewhere)
_ after the workflow is over, I would like to retrieve what it has created. So 
my idea was that my workflow would set a variable with the id of my business 
object, and after the workflow is finished I will search the history and get my 
variable.

it is easy when my workflow is not ended :

String businessId = (String) executionService.getVariable(processId, 
"businessId");

but when it is ended there is nothing in the API like I could do:
String businessId = (String) historyService.getVariable(processId, 
"businessId");

and I have not found any other way

so my question is : does the jBPM team intend to do something like that, so 
that the variable of history processes can be retrieved via the API ?

or maybe I overlooked something that already exists?

I searched the JIRA, but did not fully understand what was intended, especially 
with this one :
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2398
the description : "expose the history that is in the database through the api" 
sounds nice, but then it seems to specialize on tasks, plus it seems a bit dead

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: process simulation without server

2009-09-04 Thread npirard
as far as I have tested, no need of a server to run the junits

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Is there any kind of variable in JBPM4 like 'transient v

2009-09-04 Thread npirard
well, jBPM3 had a nice idea, IMO :-)

especially if the transient data has to be used at several parts of the 
process, so that it is overall better than mine.



here is what I did, I pass the data when signalling the Custom that uses them 
with method 
ExecutionService.signalExecutionById(String, String, Map)



JPDL :

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two simple DecisionHandlers :

  | package org.jbpm.npi;
  | 
  | import org.jbpm.api.jpdl.DecisionHandler;
  | import org.jbpm.api.model.OpenExecution;
  | 
  | public class Exclusive1Handler implements DecisionHandler {
  | 
  | @Override
  | public String decide(OpenExecution arg0) {
  | return "to custom1";
  | }
  | }
  | 
  | package org.jbpm.npi;
  | 
  | import org.jbpm.api.jpdl.DecisionHandler;
  | import org.jbpm.api.model.OpenExecution;
  | 
  | public class Exclusive2Handler implements DecisionHandler {
  | 
  | @Override
  | public String decide(OpenExecution arg0) {
  | return "to wait2";
  | }
  | }
  | 
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my Custom :

  | package org.jbpm.npi;
  | 
  | import java.util.Map;
  | 
  | import org.jbpm.api.activity.ActivityExecution;
  | import org.jbpm.api.activity.ExternalActivityBehaviour;
  | 
  | public class MyCustom implements ExternalActivityBehaviour {
  | 
  | @Override
  | public void signal(ActivityExecution activityExecution, String signal, 
Map parameters) throws Exception {
  | System.out.println("signal() - ring the Kremlin !! " + 
parameters.get("putinPhoneNumber"));
  | 
  | activityExecution.takeDefaultTransition();
  | }
  | 
  | @Override
  | public void execute(ActivityExecution activityExecution) throws 
Exception {
  | System.out.println("MyCustom.execute()");
  | activityExecution.waitForSignal();
  | }
  | 
  | }
  | 

the test class

  | package org.jbpm.npi;
  | 
  | import java.util.HashMap;
  | import java.util.Map;
  | 
  | import org.jbpm.api.Execution;
  | import org.jbpm.api.ProcessInstance;
  | import org.jbpm.test.JbpmTestCase;
  | 
  | /**
  |  * test the possibility to inject parameters at some point of a process 
without
  |  * persisting them
  |  * 
  |  * @author npirard
  |  */
  | public class CustomParametersTest extends JbpmTestCase {
  | 
  | String deploymentId;
  | 
  | @Override
  | protected void setUp() throws Exception {
  | super.setUp();
  | 
  | deploymentId = 
repositoryService.createDeployment().addResourceFromClasspath("org/jbpm/npi/CustomParameters.jpdl.xml").deploy();
  | }
  | 
  | @Override
  | protected void tearDown() throws Exception {
  | repositoryService.deleteDeploymentCascade(deploymentId);
  | 
  | super.tearDown();
  | }
  | 
  | public void testProcess(){
  | Map variables = new HashMap();
  | 
  | //this is a variable that can be persisted without problem
  | variables.put("publicInfo", "this is not really secret");
  | ProcessInstance processInstance = 
executionService.startProcessInstanceByKey("CustomParameters", variables);
  | 
  | Execution executionInA = 
processInstance.findActiveExecutionIn("input_some_info");
  | assertNotNull(executionInA);
  | 
  | processInstance = 
executionService.signalExecutionById(executionInA.getId());
  | 
  | Execution executionInCustom = 
processInstance.findActiveExecutionIn("custom1");
  | Map parameters = new HashMap();
  | 
  | //this is really secret matter
  | parameters.put("putinPhoneNumber", "+7123456789");
  | processInstance = 
executionService.signalExecutionById(executionInCustom.getId(), "mySignal", 
parameters);
  | 
  | Execution executionInWait2 = 
processInstance.findActiveExecutionIn("wait2");
  | 
  | assertNotNull(executionInWait2);// breakpoint A
  | 
  | processInstance = 
executionService.signalExecutionById(executionInWait2.getId());
  | 
  | assertTrue(processInstance.isEnded());// breakpoint B
  | }
  | }
  | 

I executed it in debug ; at breakpoint A I found "publicInfo" in table 
JBPM4_VARIABLE, but not "putinPhoneNumber"

at breakpoint B I do not find anything in JBPM4_VARIABLE. By the way, I would 
have expected "publicInfo" in JBPM4_HIST_VAR, but it is not. Maybe I have not 
understood the purpose of this latter table : it is not supposed to record the 
variables of past execu

[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Is there any kind of variable in JBPM4 like 'transient v

2009-09-04 Thread npirard
in fact I made a quick test workaround yesterday using a Custom

I try to pack the code and post it here this day, I'd be glad if anyone could 
point a flaw in it, if any, or validate my "secret" parameter is not recorded 
in some JBPM table ;-)

the ThreadLocale idea is nice too, thanks

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: Is there any kind of variable in JBPM4 like 'transient v

2009-09-03 Thread npirard
Hello

I am not sure if I get the point here. I would like to forward a variable 
throughout some decisions but without persisting them (sensitive data that 
should not be in my DB)

could this idea of "transient variable" be what I am looking for?

but then I do not quite understand the thread shekharv is referring to : the 
variables set by ExecutionService are persisted, aren't they?

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: [jBPM 4.1] not finding the GPD

2009-09-03 Thread npirard
of course, it is a bit frustrating, but I understand that coordinating a large 
team may be rather complex, I was just kidding a bit, hence the smiley ;-)

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: [jBPM 4.1] not finding the GPD

2009-09-03 Thread npirard
ok, I have done it, I thought it could have been quickly fixed without all the 
burden (filing a Jira is longer than actually fixing, I presume), but anyhow, I 
have always been a great fan of e-bureaucracy ;-)

https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2519

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - [jBPM 4.1] not finding the GPD

2009-09-02 Thread npirard
I did not find the subdirectory gpd when unzipping the jbpm-4.1.zip , whereas 
it was present in the 4.0 version. (and is referred to in the 4.1 doc 
jbpm-4.1/doc/userguide/html_single/index.html#graphicalprocessdesigner)

Is it elsewhere now? ---> yes , it is in jbpm-4.1\install\src\gpd

could someone udpate the doc? need a JIRA?

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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: how to differentiate different ends ?

2009-08-28 Thread npirard
maybe modifying HistoryProcessInstanceQueryImpl to add a query possibility on 
endActivityName the same way as it is already done for state would work ?

it means modify
org.jbpm.pvm.internal.query.HistoryProcessInstanceQueryImpl.hql()

+ add a field and its setter

but there is maybe a reason that would make it irrelevant ? maybe other indexes 
to set in the DB ?



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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - Re: how to differentiate different ends ?

2009-08-28 Thread npirard
thank you rams.rapo, I had seen this too, but was not too sure I could rely on 
it

then you confirm there is no standard API way to do it ?



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[jboss-user] [jBPM Users] - how to differentiate different ends ?

2009-08-27 Thread npirard
[jBPM 4]

Is there a simple mean to differentiate the differente possible ends of a 
process?

For instance in the example
org.jbpm.examples.end.multiple.EndMultipleTest
that comes with the distribution, a process may have three different ends. But 
once the process is ended, how can we know what end it reached?

The Unit Test only tests that the process ended correctly, not that it reached 
the intended end ("ok", "bad request" or "internal server error") that are 
defined in the JPDL :

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I did not find how to query about it with the API. 

here is what I tried,  in EndMultipleTest :



  | public void testEndMultipleOk() {
  | ProcessInstance processInstance = 
executionService.startProcessInstanceByKey("EndMultiple");
  | String pid = processInstance.getId();
  | processInstance = executionService.signalExecutionById(pid, 
"200");
  | assertTrue(processInstance.isEnded());
  | // end of the official test
  | 
  | 
  | assertEquals("ended", processInstance.getState());//state is 
"ended", not "ok"
  | 
  | //HistoryActivity
  | HistoryActivityInstanceQuery historyActivityInstanceQuery =  
historyService.createHistoryActivityInstanceQuery();
  | historyActivityInstanceQuery.executionId(pid);
  | List list = 
historyActivityInstanceQuery.list();
  | System.out.println("list for pid size : " + list.size());
  | for (HistoryActivityInstance historyActivityInstance : list) {
  | System.out.println("history activity for pid: " + 
historyActivityInstance.getActivityName());
  | }
  | 
  | historyActivityInstanceQuery =  
historyService.createHistoryActivityInstanceQuery();
  | historyActivityInstanceQuery.activityName("get return code");
  | list = historyActivityInstanceQuery.list();
  | System.out.println("list for \"get return code\" size : " + 
list.size());
  | for (HistoryActivityInstance historyActivityInstance : list) {
  | System.out.println("history activity for \"get return 
code\": " + historyActivityInstance.getActivityName());
  | }
  | 
  | historyActivityInstanceQuery =  
historyService.createHistoryActivityInstanceQuery();
  | historyActivityInstanceQuery.activityName("ended");
  | list = historyActivityInstanceQuery.list();
  | System.out.println("list for \"ended\" size : " + list.size());
  | for (HistoryActivityInstance historyActivityInstance : list) {
  | System.out.println("history activity for \"ended\": " + 
historyActivityInstance.getActivityName());
  | }
  | 
  | historyActivityInstanceQuery =  
historyService.createHistoryActivityInstanceQuery();
  | historyActivityInstanceQuery.activityName("ok");
  | list = historyActivityInstanceQuery.list();
  | System.out.println("list for \"ok\" size : " + list.size());
  | for (HistoryActivityInstance historyActivityInstance : list) {
  | System.out.println("history activity for \"ok\": " + 
historyActivityInstance.getActivityName());
  | }
  | 
  | 
  | //Job
  | JobQuery jobQuery = 
managementService.createJobQuery().processInstanceId(pid);
  | List listJobs = jobQuery.list();
  | System.out.println("listJobs size : " + listJobs.size());
  | for (Job job : listJobs) {
  | System.out.println("job : " + job.getId());
  | }
  | 
  | 
  | //HistoryProcessInstance
  | HistoryProcessInstanceQuery historyProcessInstanceQuery =  
historyService.createHistoryProcessInstanceQuery();
  | historyProcessInstanceQuery.state("ok");
  | List listHPI = 
historyProcessInstanceQuery.list();
  | System.out.println("IP list for \"ok\" size : " + 
listHPI.size());
  | 
  | historyProcessInstanceQuery =  
historyService.createHistoryProcessInstanceQuery();
  | historyProcessInstanceQuery.state("get return code");
  | listHPI = historyProcessInstanceQuery.list();
  | System.out.println("IP list for \"get return code\" size : " + 
listHPI.size());
  | 
  | historyProcessInstanceQuery =  
historyService.createHistoryProcessInstanceQuery();
  | historyProcessInstanceQuery.state("ended");
  | listHPI = historyProcessInstanceQuery.list();
  | System.out.println("IP list for \"end

[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: BPEL and jBPM4

2009-08-21 Thread npirard
steeqs4, if you could answer, I would be interested in what you did with 
Glassfish/BPEL, since Glassfish is my target : 

_ did you need additional components to Glassfish ? like OpenESB ?
_ does your solution have a persistence service ? (or something that remembers 
when a process was stopped in case of failure or so)
_ did you find sufficient documentation ?
_ except it is not BPMN, are you globally satisfied with this solution ?



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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - BPEL and jBPM4

2009-08-20 Thread npirard
Hello,

sorry if I overlooked something somewhere, but it seems the latest doc on BPEL 
and jBPM only mentions jBPM v3

plus it is BPEL version 1.1

when I looked in the forum I did not find any clear references with BPEL and 
JBPM 4

in JIRA I think next version for BPEL is 1.2
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/BPEL/fixforversion/12311039

but some of the opened bugs dates from 2 or three years, and still unresolved

hence my questions : is this project discontinued? is it possible to use BPEL 
with jBPM 4 (plus : outside of jBoss ) ? where do I find a tutorial? a piece of 
not stale doc ?


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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Confusing regarding unit test

2009-08-19 Thread npirard
IMHO, state 1 is not active anymore, but the instance of ProcessInstance you 
use is obsolete at the end, there is a need to obtain a newer instance

what I question is wether the fact that instances of ProcessInstance get 
obsololete is intended or not

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Confusing regarding unit test

2009-08-19 Thread npirard
PS : not sure this is the intended behaviour, though ?

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: Confusing regarding unit test

2009-08-19 Thread npirard
I tried the your code, got the same result and got confused a bit

but then I tried :


  | ProcessInstance processInstance = 
executionService.startProcessInstanceByKey("task_types"/*, variables*/);
  | Execution execution = 
processInstance.findActiveExecutionIn("state1");  
  | assertNotNull(execution);
  | String executionId = execution.getId();
  | executionService.signalExecutionById(executionId);
  | Set activities = processInstance.findActiveActivityNames();
  | System.out.println(activities.toString());
  | 
  | //reload
  | processInstance = 
executionService.findProcessInstanceById(executionId);
  | activities = processInstance.findActiveActivityNames();
  | System.out.println(activities.toString());
  | 

and here the log :

  | 12:03:26,545 FIN | [ProcessDefinitionImpl] creating new execution for 
process 'task_types'
  | 12:03:26,561 FIN | [DefaultIdGenerator] generated execution id 
task_types.226
  | 12:03:26,561 FIN | [ExecuteActivity] executing activity(start1)
  | 12:03:26,561 FIN | [ExecuteActivity] executing activity(state1)
  | 12:03:26,576 FIN | [Signal] signalling activity(state1), signalName=null
  | 12:03:26,592 FIN | [ExecuteActivity] executing activity(java1)
  | JavaClass.printMessage() - Hallo !!
  | 12:03:26,592 FIN | [ExecuteActivity] executing activity(task1)
  | [state1]
  | [task1]
  | 

it looks like the ProcessInstance object has to be reloaded by our means 

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jbpm4 user guide : small error in doc

2009-08-18 Thread npirard
figure Figure 6.20 is not correct either, I'd say

jira updated

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: [GPD] Duplication of tag and problems with the setting o

2009-08-18 Thread npirard
Hallo,

>when I was trying to set properties of process elements in the process 
>definition like task names the letters have been written from right to left. 

I have got the same problem

I sometimes encounter it also when editing xml or html files with eclipse, do 
not know if there is a link between the two issues

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jbpm4 user guide : small error in doc

2009-08-17 Thread npirard
one more point :

in § 6.2.3.1. Decision conditions there should be an image with url 
http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/v4.0/userguide/html_single/images/process.decision.png

but there is nothing at this URL, so that the image does not show. I suppose 
the correct URL would be :
http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/v4.0/userguide/html_single/images/process.exclusive.png

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jbpm4 user guide : small error in doc

2009-08-14 Thread npirard
https://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBPM-2486

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: jbpm4 user guide : small error in doc

2009-08-14 Thread npirard
same kind of inaccurracy : the id in table 5.1 and 5.2 has a format like 
{key}:{version} (with : between key and version)
whereas the text above states :
"The id will have format {key}-{version} with a dash between key and version"
and paragraph 5.6.2 seems to use this "dash" format too


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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - jbpm4 user guide : small error in doc

2009-08-14 Thread npirard
http://docs.jboss.com/jbpm/v4.0/userguide/html_single/#deployingaprocess

the given example is : 
"
long deploymentDbid = repositoryService.createDeployment()
.addResourceFromClasspath("org/jbpm/examples/services/Order.jpdl.xml")
.deploy();
"

but in fact deploy() returns a String ;-)

could someone correct it ?


ok it is a detail, but :
_ as a beginner I just try to understand the concepts of name, key, id, 
version, which get quickly confusing
_ the french say "le diable se cache dans les details" (the devil hides in the 
details), which quite often proves a wise statement, even in computer science
_ when reading the paragraph I get Exceptions in my two remaining neurons
_ an accurate doc is better, no ?

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: is it possible to use jBPM with TopLink instead of Hiber

2009-07-13 Thread npirard
Thank you Ronald and Mohamed !

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: is it possible to use jBPM with TopLink instead of Hiber

2009-07-10 Thread npirard
> you can have your own datamodel for your businessdata accessed via TopLink 
> and have both participate in the same transaction.

well then, I should give it a try, thanks for the advice. Did you actually do 
it, or see it working?

in my project they had already problems trying to use Hibernate with our 
Glassfish, and I thought having both Hibernate and TopLink could lead to 
strange behaviors.

but I am new to BPM, and I appreciate your answer, since it is a bit difficult 
for me to understand all implications without experience

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - Re: is it possible to use jBPM with TopLink instead of Hiber

2009-07-10 Thread npirard
thank you jbarrez for the quick answer. Too bad for now ;-)

anyway, do you know of an open BPM solution that would work with TopLink ?

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[jboss-user] [JBoss jBPM] - is it possible to use jBPM with TopLink instead of Hibernate

2009-07-09 Thread npirard
Hello, 

pardon the newbie question, but I am looking for a BPM solution that would not 
require Hibernate, since we use Glassfish + TopLink, and I suspect having both 
TopLink and Hibernate could cause problems

hence my question : is it possible to use jBPM without Hibernate, or is 
Hibernate a requirement ? 

if it were possible to adapt things so that jBPM uses TopLink instead of 
Hibernate, any idea of the amount of work that would be involved ?

thank you ! 

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