[JBoss-user] unsubscribe me
I tried to unsubscribe 2 days ago by posting to the jboss-user-admin list but have gotten nothing. How do I get off this list? -c -- 10:35:00 up 70 days, 10 min, 8 users, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.01 --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0013ave/direct;at.aspnet_072303_01/01 ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JMS Queue Deployed at runtime
On Mon, Mar 24, 2003 at 09:41:48PM -0600, Stephen Davidson wrote: > Christopher Blunck wrote: > If you are using MDBs, the Q's are configured and started automatically > when the MDBs are deployed. That was my initial thought. But keep in mind that a MDB binds to a queue via JNDI, implying the queue may be on a remote machine. That kind of blew my conclusion out of the water that queues were definitely hot deployable. We'll probably do some prototyping, I just wanted to field the question. After we do our prototyping (we're a gubmint contractor so it'll take awhile) I'll post again for the benefit of others. -c -- 12:15am up 154 days, 16:08, 2 users, load average: 0.84, 0.73, 1.42 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] JMS Queue Deployed at runtime
Hi all- We're considering rolling out a fairly large application to JBoss. The only question in my head is: can JBoss create a new JMS queue at runtime? In other words, if I want to bring up a new JMS queue, do I need to restart the server for the queue to come online? -c -- 4:15pm up 154 days, 8:07, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.20, 0.25 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Logging question
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 10:54:36PM -0500, David Corbin wrote: > If I have multiple .WARs (often with common classes), is there anyway to > either > 1) detect which .WAR is logging and control logging based on that via > log4j settings > or > 2) or include information about the .WAR in each log line. You could do something like this: Package both WARs in an EAR. Included in the EAR is a jar component that wraps Log4J. It defines methods like: static void logMessage(String message, Class reporter, LogLevel severity); Each WAR contains a local Logger that extends the Logger implemented at the EAR level. It defines methods like: static void logMessage(String message, LogLevel severity); When the Logger subclasses call the superclass, they pass their own class as the reporter. This allows you to filter. Ya it's dirty, but it'll work. -c -- 11:25pm up 150 days, 15:16, 3 users, load average: 4.99, 4.83, 4.53 --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Tablet PC. Does your code think in ink? You could win a Tablet PC. Get a free Tablet PC hat just for playing. What are you waiting for? http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?micr5043en ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?
On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 11:16:38PM -0500, sherlock costello wrote: > >Does anybody (other than me) find it ironic that the leading open source > >application server project uses PHP on it's home page instead of JSP? > Absolutely. I think it's insane. Not to fuel the flames thus far (it seems like there is a spectrum of respondants, some of which favor the move, some of which criticize it, and some of which are indifferent) but . . . :) TheServerSide.com folks have written their own application to manage stories, responses, threads, etc. It's pretty cool, and I'm impressed to see reporters actually explore the domain in which they report. I read articles in magazines, but I have no idea if the author even downloaded, compiled, wrote some client code, and truly evaluated a potential product. Or if they simply browsed the online API and read some class docs. To that end, I have a lot of respect for TheServerSide.com folks for (as somebody else pointed out) eating their own dog food and truly being in the trenches when it comes to emerging technology. Example: They wanted to review clustering. What did they do? They clustered *their* production website using Oracle's app server and WebLogic. After clustering, they wrote their review. Their review has a hell of a lot of credibility when on the left hand side of the browser window it reads "Running on bea WebLogic" and after a refresh it says "Running on Oracle's WebSphere." I mean come on . . . you can't get much better than that. Likewise, I think JBoss should be in similar water and ... eating their own dog food. Yes I am familiar with the open source J2EE architecture (wrt Jetty or Tomcat being a servlet engine, and JBoss is an application server that can use Jetty or Tomcat, yadda yadda yadda). But it seems to me that ... if you really stand behind your movement you'd be using the tools in your domain to solve your problems. Or, if (as I am hearing) the current tools are not appropriate, make a new tool. Or change the existing tools to be more appropriate - that's the whole beauty of open source! Somewhat related to another poster's comment about MS Marketing, I'm just waiting for a smartass coworker to read a post somewhere (/. perhaps) that says that JBoss.org "doesn't trust their product enough to run their own development site" and then come shouting to me about how the project I've evangelized over the past year (over WebLogic and Oracle) isn't up to snuff. Please don't let those jabronis do that. Please... -c -- 11:20am up 81 days, 2:36, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.53, 2.13 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?
Does anybody (other than me) find it ironic that the leading open source application server project uses PHP on it's home page instead of JSP? That's kind of like theserverside.com switching everything over to ASP or Cold Fusion. Maybe I missed something awhile back (like why you guys switched over). -c On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 07:53:42PM -0800, Sundaram Ramasamy wrote: > Today I visited jboss.org web site, it looks different (with php . I don't know much >about php. > > Is there any advantage in PHP compare to JSP? > > Thanks > > -SR > -- 8:40pm up 80 days, 11:56, 1 user, load average: 0.51, 0.64, 1.11 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] why EJBs?
On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 08:50:20PM +0200, Peter Fagerlund wrote: > > onsdagen den 16 oktober 2002 kl 18.49 skrev Vincent Stoessel: > > >I am finding that modeling my business logic in custom beans seems to > >be > >working fine for me in tomcat 4.1.x enviroment. But I know that my > >management would really like for me to add EJBs to the mix. I was > >looking at using jboss. Can some pro-Jboss/EJB person tell why in the > >world I need to be using EJB instead of using my own model classes? It > >is a relatively small app but an important one for the company. > > EJB's is scalable and degrades gracefully ... EJB's with *all* the > API's that specifies J2EE will help in being more productive while > delegating responsibilities in teams, it also gives You a choice to mix > and migrate between J2EE vendors and providers. > > /peter_f EJBs also allow you to exploit the software "other people" have written - namely the JBoss folks. :) With EJB, the container manages transactions, concurrency, and distributability so you don't have to. If those three capabilities are important to you (because you have a webapp for example (in which case concurrency is an issue), or if you want a quick and easy persistence solution (as opposed to writing SQL), EJB may be the right thing for you. If you are a fairly straight-forward app with some minor persistence where the transactions are easily managed, then the overhead of EJB (not performance overhead, but code overhead (JNDI, Remote & Home interfaces, bean impl., finder definitions)) may outweigh any perceived benefits. Above all else tho, the caching capability of most containers is what has drawn me to EJBs. If you have a User that has lots of different attributes and those attributes have subattributes (imagine a hierarchy of addresses, telephone numbers, credit card information, etc), being able to pull all that information into memory ONCE when the user logs in and then NEVER pull it again is *very* zesty. Sure you could do this via your own code and writing a caching class, but then you have to deal with memory leaks (due to quasi- dangling references). It's much easier to let the container manage the caching by activating and passivating the bean when necessary. The comment you made (management would really like for me to add EJBs to the mix) is puzzling and cause for concern. Ask them a couple of questions before proceeding: 1.) What does E.J.B. stand for? 2.) What are the technological benefits of using EJBs? If they get past #1 and provide a somewhat on topic answer to #2, proceed with caution. If they provide an answer to #1 and spew some marketing BS about being "J2EE compliant" because you use EJBs, whip together a mastubatorial stateless session bean named SessionManager (that always sounds important), don't link anything to it, and announce your software to the world as J2EE compliant (cause the business folk ain't gonna know the difference). Best of luck, -c -- 3:15pm up 6 days, 3:58, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.35, 0.41 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: viaVerio will pay you up to $1,000 for every account that you consolidate with us. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;4749864;7604308;v? http://www.viaverio.com/consolidator/osdn.cfm ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Re: TopLink for CMP
On Thu, 2001-12-13 at 06:41, Jiri Luzny wrote: > Christopher, > > if you can miss Entity Beans, Toplink works perfectly with "any" J2ee > server. We use Toplink+JBoss using the following model: > SessionBeans->PureJavaObjects mapped by Toplink->DB. We have written a > MBean that encapsulates integration/configuration of Toplink within a > J2EE server. > > Jiri. Yup. However, our app does have high availability and distributed requirements. Entity beans fit those requirements pretty nicely. While many of our entity beans (we have a Guest entity bean - and we persist NOTHING about a Guest!) can disappear, my guess is that some will remain and thus we'll need a container. *shrug* -c ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
RE: [JBoss-user] Re: TopLink for CMP
Sacha- Ya, it probably would suit my needs. Some of the other O/R mapping tools (by Thought for example) would probably also fit my needs. And believe me, I'd *love* to try some other mapping tools! :-) The problem is that we have a deep investment in TopLink and I'm pretty busy with other implementations right now. ;-) If I were to say to my boss "Can I have 2 weeks to convert us from TopLink to OR Tool X" he wouldn't give it to me. ... But ... If I can easily migrate from WLS to JBoss. Then I can make it a slippery slide after that. "You know, you just saved $10k a year in ditching WLS. Why not save some more by ditching TopLink? We're already on a platform we know will support this other OR tool". So ... step #1 is getting to use TopLink under JBoss. Step #2 is getting to try out other mapping tools under JBoss. Step #3 is I take over the project. :-) Thanks for the link! -c On Wed, 2001-12-12 at 14:51, Sacha Labourey wrote: > Christopher, > > Have you tried the CMP 2.0 engine from MVCSoft? Don't you think it would fit > your needs? > > http://www.flashline.com/components/view.jsp?prodid=4214&affiliateid=260343 > > Cheers, > > > Sacha > > > > -Message d'origine- > > The motivation for asking my question is simple: I would rather not have > > our company pay $10k for a WLS license when there's a perfectly capable > > (and free) app server out there that has a large following and a lot of > > momentum. The one stumbling block is that we rely heavily on TopLink. > > Getting my PM to ditch it in favor of JAWS or some other O/R mapping > > tool would be a difficult argument. (Of course, he recently complained > > about WebGain's licensing scheme and how it's now gonna be as expensive > > for us to buy TopLink as it was to buy WLS!). > > > > So, having JBoss support TopLink (or TopLink support JBoss - whatever > > you want to call it) would lower the barrier to entry for us and would > > really be beneficial. > > > > I'll get us migrated to JBoss eventually ;-) > > > ___ > JBoss-user mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] Re: TopLink for CMP
On Mon, 2001-12-10 at 12:01, Jon Ferguson wrote: > For a definitive answer talk to WebGain. I'll do so. They have a 4.0 release coming out shortly and maybe that'll plug into jboss. > Also, I'd be very interested in what mapping features you're using We use the multi-table mapping feature of TopLink. The mapping that comes with WL doesn't support those so that's a serious value add. I'm not sure if JAWS supports that (haven't checked yet). > and what you're experiences with the WL version are. Bad and terrible! :-) TopLink can be such a pain in the butt to work with. Especially under CMP. The motivation for asking my question is simple: I would rather not have our company pay $10k for a WLS license when there's a perfectly capable (and free) app server out there that has a large following and a lot of momentum. The one stumbling block is that we rely heavily on TopLink. Getting my PM to ditch it in favor of JAWS or some other O/R mapping tool would be a difficult argument. (Of course, he recently complained about WebGain's licensing scheme and how it's now gonna be as expensive for us to buy TopLink as it was to buy WLS!). So, having JBoss support TopLink (or TopLink support JBoss - whatever you want to call it) would lower the barrier to entry for us and would really be beneficial. I'll get us migrated to JBoss eventually ;-) Thanks for the response, and I'll email WebGain, -c ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] TopLink for CMP
Hello- I'm a java developer using WLS5.1 + TopLink 2.5.1. We're migrating to WLS6.1 + TopLink 3.6. I'm trying to convince the higher ups to go to JBoss2.4.3. However, our app depends heavily upon TopLink for CMP. I've done some searching on if TopLink CMP is supported by JBoss but can't find any definitive answers. Has anyone tried this and gotten it to work? -c ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
