[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-12-16 Thread DashV
anonymous wrote : Hopefully I can work this out, but really it seems that an 
Entity Bean approach is a much better idea. 

I don't know if it's too late to reply to this or not... but you could always 
go the hybrid route... Which is... Use your singletons the way you are now but 
anytime a method is called which causes a change in the state of your service 
you store that state in an entity bean. whenever the service loads it would 
first check for the existence of a state entity and if it doesn't find one it 
could truely start fresh. If it does find one it could load the state thats 
been saved in the entity.

For performance reasons you could always keep the state in the service as well. 
Basically you'd have an HA Singleton with cached reads (no sense getting it 
from the entity since the singleton service is the only thing modifying it) but 
you'd want all of your writes updating cache and the entity (so if the server 
goes down the new singleton can load the state).

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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-27 Thread monocongo
"monocongo" wrote : Once I finally have everything worked out I will post a forum 
message or Wiki entry outlining all of the steps I needed to take to get this working. 
 Hopefully it will help other developers who want to use Singletons in a clustered 
JBoss application avoid the headaches I've gone through.
  | 

This is now available under the title "Clustered HASingleton How-To".


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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-26 Thread monocongo
Try this link: http://www.theserverside.com/patterns/thread.tss?thread_id=20819

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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-26 Thread jiwils
"lac_raz" wrote : Have tou read the singleton discussion on TheServerSide.com ?

"monocongo" wrote : Thanks for making me aware of this discussion.

Could either of you provide a link to the aforementioned discussion?  Many referenced 
discussions come up when searching for "singletons" on the ServiceSide site.

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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-26 Thread monocongo
"lac_raz" wrote : Have tou read the singleton discussion on TheServerSide.com ?

Thanks for making me aware of this discussion.  I *really* wish I had seen it before 
going down this path with Singletons.  My original idea was to use an EntityBean 
instead of a Singleton, and from looking at this discussion that looks to be the 
concensus.  Unfortunately as a new employee (and relative newbie to EJBs and JBoss) I 
didn't have the authority to make the design decision.  And now that I've coded my 
application around Singletons I need to make them work, or somehow convince my manager 
to let me have the time to change course, which is not likely.

I do (finally) have my application working well using Singletons, but it seems that a 
failure of the master node of my cluster will cause the Singletons to be created fresh 
on the new server, thereby losing the data needed by the application.  Hopefully I can 
work this out, but really it seems that an Entity Bean approach is a much better idea.


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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-25 Thread heima
I  have solve this problem.

I had thought that the singleton mbean is like the singleton instance .

the truth is ,only the master node run the method (startSinglet()) of singletonmbean , 
when the the master node turned off, the method(stopSinglet())will be invoke ant then 
another master node will be choose from the other jboss server ,then the method (start 
Singleton ()) will be invoke by the master node had just been chosed. 

so ,just the master node run the startSinglton() service .

the service you want it to be singleton can be invoke within startSingleton();

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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-24 Thread lac_raz
Have tou read the singleton discussion on TheServerSide.com ?

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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-21 Thread monocongo
I'm using version 3.2.5 on Solaris and Linux machines.

Once I finally have everything worked out I will post a forum message or Wiki entry 
outlining all of the steps I needed to take to get this working.  Hopefully it will 
help other developers who want to use Singletons in a clustered JBoss application 
avoid the headaches I've gone through.

My advice: buy a support contract or perhaps a few hours of consulting if like me you 
go this route and don't know what you're doing.  I imagine that it would be well worth 
the expense in terms of time saved, if it's within your budget.  (Of course if we had 
that kind of cash available we might not be using a free application server in the 
first place.)


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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-21 Thread rburdo
Hello,

What JBoss version do you use? I consider using JBoss singleton as well over JBoss 
3.2.5 .

Thanks

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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-20 Thread monocongo
My understanding is that the JBoss HASingleton MBeans do in fact behave as real 
singletons (just one instance per JVM) when you run them on a single node of a 
cluster.  At least they are working well in that capacity for me.  I fortunately do 
not have the problem of the original poster in that my singleton MBeans are only being 
registered on the master node, which is what I want.  Unfortunately I cannot access 
these singleton MBeans from any other node, and hence my application can't cluster 
yet.  I am trying to use the RMIAdaptor/InvokerAdaptorService, after fruitless 
attempts with other approaches, but still having no joy.

If you are considering going with a singleton in your design/architecture, and you 
want to cluster it, then I would strongly urge you to avoid it if at all possible.  I 
have had no end of frustration with this.  I had no choice but to use this approach 
since I was committed to it by the architect of my project and hence developed a large 
body of code which depends on it.  What little documentation there is on this topic is 
confusing and incomplete (something I can say about most if not all JBoss 
documentation from my experiences with it over the last 8 months).  If you don't have 
a support contract then you will have a hard time getting anyone to give you any 
helpful information on this topic on this forum, as it seems that there are few if any 
other developers who have tried this with any success.  Perhaps you really do get what 
you pay for, if you're lucky -- but then again I'm not sure that this would be any 
easier with WebLogic or WebSphere.


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[JBoss-user] [Clustering/JBoss] - Re: how to use singleton

2004-10-20 Thread lac_raz
I'm experiencing the same confusion . Did you find an answer for this ? 

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