Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure
just to add : it could have a web configuration that just use the jbosssx infra-structure to authenticate and authorize web users against a remote jboss EJB instance. In this way i would have a lightweight jboss configuration to use as a web-container with transparent JAAS. Emerson Greg Turner wrote: I think a better approach would be to leave the 3 configurations the way they are and include in docs a procedure that tells how to go about constructing your own configuration. I've done it but don't know how to put it into words. Simon Stewart wrote: You know, it would be really useful to have a bare system somewhere between b and c. Most people just want to deploy some EJBs, some servlets that use them and a datasource, all on one machine. It can be hard for a newbie to figure out what's necessary. c is overkill for this and b is not enough On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:13:45AM -0700, Scott M Stark wrote: The 3.0.0 release notes state: The directory structure of the distribution has changed from a single monolithic default configuration into three distributions: a.. minimal, a bare JMX core with JNDI naming, Log4j and hot deployment of mbean services. b.. default, the basic J2EE compatible configuration without clustering, JBoss.NET or IIOP c.. all, the complete configuration. All available services including clustering, JBoss.NET and IIOP are included in this configuration. d.. The jars in the top lib directory are no longer loaded by default. The lib directory under a server configuration(server/default/lib for example) is the location for jars that should be loaded by default for the given server configuration. Cheers, Simon -- That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke, without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of UNIX. Well, that's something, Avi says. Normally those two are mutually exclusive.--Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user -- Greg Turner, JBoss Authorized Consultant Tiburon Enterprise Systems http://www.tiburon-e-systems.com Box 1171 Tiburon, CA 94920 415-332-3363 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user -- Emerson Cargnin - MSA SICREDI - Tel : 3358-4860 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek PC Mods, Computing goodies, cases more http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure
Hi David, Thanks for your 2 cents :-) ...my actual question is WHY are there three servers in the new distribution? There had to be a reason but I haven't found any explanation. I imagine that they are each optimized for something specific (thus my reference to server/all for clustering)...but what? Can you shed some light? Mary --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
RE: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure
I'll second that Mary. It's had me wondering for a while... Regards Alan. -Original Message- From: Mary Roderick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 10/07/2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure Hi David, Thanks for your 2 cents :-) ...my actual question is WHY are there three servers in the new distribution? There had to be a reason but I haven't found any explanation. I imagine that they are each optimized for something specific (thus my reference to server/all for clustering)...but what? Can you shed some light? Mary --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user winmail.dat
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure
The 3.0.0 release notes state: The directory structure of the distribution has changed from a single monolithic default configuration into three distributions: a.. minimal, a bare JMX core with JNDI naming, Log4j and hot deployment of mbean services. b.. default, the basic J2EE compatible configuration without clustering, JBoss.NET or IIOP c.. all, the complete configuration. All available services including clustering, JBoss.NET and IIOP are included in this configuration. d.. The jars in the top lib directory are no longer loaded by default. The lib directory under a server configuration(server/default/lib for example) is the location for jars that should be loaded by default for the given server configuration. e.. When running without a configuration name the default configuration is used. To run with an alternate configuration specify the name using -c to the run script, for example run -c minimal Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: Mary Roderick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure Hi David, Thanks for your 2 cents :-) ...my actual question is WHY are there three servers in the new distribution? There had to be a reason but I haven't found any explanation. I imagine that they are each optimized for something specific (thus my reference to server/all for clustering)...but what? Can you shed some light? Mary --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide
These are a few things that we had to find out by searching the archives, some easier than others. Please ignore if this is already added. 1. The JMS-chapter hardly mentions durable subscriptions. It took us a while to locate jbossmq-state.xml (grep:ing the src):-). 2. Jetty requires a realm-name using FORM based login even though the spec says it is only used for BASIC authentication. 3. If you are trying to setup a new datasource and it fails, the Hypersonic datasource seems to become the default. This can be quite confusing. 4. Log4j is configured by the conf/log4j.xml file. 5. We could not get our application to work, understandably, because we did not have a ClientloginModule set up. But when trying to solve it it took a while before we found the answer, since I did not expect my standard way of setting the RMI could be faulty. For ignorant users like me that only skims the doco, you might want to put it under a heading named 'application clients' or something like that. Anyway, the docs were a great help, we have now succesfully migrated a quite large J2EE app from Orion to JBoss3. Regards /Marcus On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 02:43, Andreas Schaefer wrote: Hi Geeks I am going to finish the JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide that can be found under http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=22866release_id=97289 So if you have feedback for it please send it directly to me. Note that the template project is a separate download just underneath the Quick Guide. Have a nice day x Andreas Schaefer Senior Consultant JBoss Group, LLC x --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Oh, it's good to be a geek. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user -- Marcus Ahnve email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lecando ABOffice: +46-(0)8-634 94 18 SwedenMobile: +46-(0)70-462 19 18 www.lecando.com ICQ#: 4564879 PGP: 891C 2F84 7CA2 F9F7 9B87 EC2F D93B 961B 4441 9BA2 B941 DB1A --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure
You know, it would be really useful to have a bare system somewhere between b and c. Most people just want to deploy some EJBs, some servlets that use them and a datasource, all on one machine. It can be hard for a newbie to figure out what's necessary. c is overkill for this and b is not enough On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:13:45AM -0700, Scott M Stark wrote: The 3.0.0 release notes state: The directory structure of the distribution has changed from a single monolithic default configuration into three distributions: a.. minimal, a bare JMX core with JNDI naming, Log4j and hot deployment of mbean services. b.. default, the basic J2EE compatible configuration without clustering, JBoss.NET or IIOP c.. all, the complete configuration. All available services including clustering, JBoss.NET and IIOP are included in this configuration. d.. The jars in the top lib directory are no longer loaded by default. The lib directory under a server configuration(server/default/lib for example) is the location for jars that should be loaded by default for the given server configuration. Cheers, Simon -- That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke, without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of UNIX. Well, that's something, Avi says. Normally those two are mutually exclusive.--Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure
I think a better approach would be to leave the 3 configurations the way they are and include in docs a procedure that tells how to go about constructing your own configuration. I've done it but don't know how to put it into words. Simon Stewart wrote: You know, it would be really useful to have a bare system somewhere between b and c. Most people just want to deploy some EJBs, some servlets that use them and a datasource, all on one machine. It can be hard for a newbie to figure out what's necessary. c is overkill for this and b is not enough On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:13:45AM -0700, Scott M Stark wrote: The 3.0.0 release notes state: The directory structure of the distribution has changed from a single monolithic default configuration into three distributions: a.. minimal, a bare JMX core with JNDI naming, Log4j and hot deployment of mbean services. b.. default, the basic J2EE compatible configuration without clustering, JBoss.NET or IIOP c.. all, the complete configuration. All available services including clustering, JBoss.NET and IIOP are included in this configuration. d.. The jars in the top lib directory are no longer loaded by default. The lib directory under a server configuration(server/default/lib for example) is the location for jars that should be loaded by default for the given server configuration. Cheers, Simon -- That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke, without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of UNIX. Well, that's something, Avi says. Normally those two are mutually exclusive.--Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user -- Greg Turner, JBoss Authorized Consultant Tiburon Enterprise Systems http://www.tiburon-e-systems.com Box 1171 Tiburon, CA 94920 415-332-3363 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure
That's what b is for. What do you find to be missing? It's worked for me. david jencks On 2002.07.10 10:19:35 -0400 Simon Stewart wrote: You know, it would be really useful to have a bare system somewhere between b and c. Most people just want to deploy some EJBs, some servlets that use them and a datasource, all on one machine. It can be hard for a newbie to figure out what's necessary. c is overkill for this and b is not enough On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:13:45AM -0700, Scott M Stark wrote: The 3.0.0 release notes state: The directory structure of the distribution has changed from a single monolithic default configuration into three distributions: a.. minimal, a bare JMX core with JNDI naming, Log4j and hot deployment of mbean services. b.. default, the basic J2EE compatible configuration without clustering, JBoss.NET or IIOP c.. all, the complete configuration. All available services including clustering, JBoss.NET and IIOP are included in this configuration. d.. The jars in the top lib directory are no longer loaded by default. The lib directory under a server configuration(server/default/lib for example) is the location for jars that should be loaded by default for the given server configuration. Cheers, Simon -- That time in Seattle... was a nightmare. I came out of it dead broke, without a house, without anything except a girlfriend and a knowledge of UNIX. Well, that's something, Avi says. Normally those two are mutually exclusive.--Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide/New JBoss distribution structure
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 11:04:44AM -0400, David Jencks wrote: That's what b is for. What do you find to be missing? It's worked for me. Tried it a while ago and seem to recall having a problem deploying. Will have another bash at it when I next do a build of my app (today's been soaked up with sysadmin tasks) Take the sound of silence to be me sitting there, humbled at having put my foot in it :) Cheers, Simon -- There is a little place in the jumbled sock drawer of my heart where you match up all the pairs, throw out the ones with holes in them, and buy me some of those neat dressy ones with the weird black and red geometrical designs on them. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Two, two, TWO treats in one. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide
Hi, A very basic but I believe helpful request: A section on deploying applications, specifically the purpose of the 3 'servers' now delivered with JBoss. I understand from the Quick Guide that server/all should be used when clustering but what about server/default and server/minimum? As an experienced JBoss user I was honestly confused about where to put my .ear file. I have found no information regarding the new JBoss structure and haven't seen any comments on it in the user list. Am I the only one for whom the new structure isn't intuitive? Thanks, Mary --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Stuff, things, and much much more. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
Re: [JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide
To add clustering to the other two pre-config'd servers, you will need to have jbossha.jar in it's lib subdir and cluster-service.xml in it's deploy subdir. You put your ear file in the deploy dir of whatever server you want to start up (via run.sh/bat -c servername). To your question, the new structure is intuitive to me, however I don't like the duplication of the jar files in each of the server's lib subdirs. I liked one of the earlier 3.0 betas where all the jars were in one super-lib dir and you just depended on a list of those jars from your xxx-xxx.xml file in deploy. It made for a much smaller distribution. just my 2c, David -- Mary Roderick wrote: Hi, A very basic but I believe helpful request: A section on deploying applications, specifically the purpose of the 3 'servers' now delivered with JBoss. I understand from the Quick Guide that server/all should be used when clustering but what about server/default and server/minimum? As an experienced JBoss user I was honestly confused about where to put my .ear file. I have found no information regarding the new JBoss structure and haven't seen any comments on it in the user list. Am I the only one for whom the new structure isn't intuitive? Thanks, Mary --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Stuff, things, and much much more. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
[JBoss-user] JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide
Hi Geeks I am going to finish the JBoss 3.0 Quick Guide that can be found under http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=22866release_id=97289 So if you have feedback for it please send it directly to me. Note that the template project is a separate download just underneath the Quick Guide. Have a nice day x Andreas Schaefer Senior Consultant JBoss Group, LLC x --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Oh, it's good to be a geek. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-user
