Re: [jboss-group] Fw: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?

2003-01-10 Thread Holger Baxmann
 Have you tried to implemented the PHP Accelerator
 (http://phpa.phorum.org/)? It only takes minutes to install and
 configure and the performance gains are impressive.
 
 Bruce
 --
 
 perl -e 'print 
 unpack(u30,0G)U8V4\@4VYY95R\F9EG)E=\$\!FFEI+F-O;0\`\`);'
 
why not perl?

use perl. everybody wants to get to know shell programming, but then refuse
to use it.
-- Kristian Koehntopp, de.comp.os.unix.misc

;-)

bax


 
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Re: [jboss-group] Fw: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?

2003-01-10 Thread Greg Wilkins

Have you tried using a PHP servlet in JBoss/Jetty?

That way we are still using our own server (eating our own dog food
in Julian speak).

It also may be more efficient as it avoids the CGI thang - but
then it could also be worse?



marc fleury wrote:

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This will go on forever now.

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Does anybody (other than me) find it ironic that the leading open 
source application server project uses PHP on it's home 

page instead 

of JSP?  That's kind of like theserverside.com switching everything 
over to ASP or Cold Fusion.

Maybe I missed something awhile back (like why you guys switched 
over).


he he, funny.

The reason we switched over is that POSTNUKE IS DONE. There is no
equivalent application in the Java space.  So it is done we take it, we
are being functional. The requirement is the increase in development
volume and the fact that JBoss-dev just isn't enough to scale this
operation any longer. 

On the new website you have blogs per developer that sum up the week in
development and let you get in the development easier. 

If this was available in java I would of course switch in an instant. 

HOWEVER THE PROBLEM is that it is slow. The reason is not PHP it is the
way PHP is usually written. Think a pile of JSP/JDBC(straight) with no
caching.  He he, EJB is really a god send and we badly need it on this
application.  Our website used to be at 15% utilization CPU, with this
new application (does the same runtime basically) we are at 100%

we are porting from PHP to JSP to refactor with EJB and see if we can
speed up that mess abit :)

marcf


-c

On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 07:53:42PM -0800, Sundaram Ramasamy wrote:


Today I visited jboss.org web site, it looks different 

(with php . I 

don't know much about php.

Is there any advantage in PHP compare to JSP?

Thanks

-SR



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Re: [jboss-group] Fw: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?

2003-01-10 Thread Holger Baxmann
just metioned this in jboss-dev yesterday ...

bax

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 Have you tried using a PHP servlet in JBoss/Jetty?
 
 That way we are still using our own server (eating our own dog food
 in Julian speak).
 
 It also may be more efficient as it avoids the CGI thang - but
 then it could also be worse?
 
 
 
 marc fleury wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:16 PM
 To: 'JBossGroup'
 Subject: [jboss-group] Fw: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?
 
 This will go on forever now.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Christopher Blunck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?
 
 
 
 Does anybody (other than me) find it ironic that the leading open
 source application server project uses PHP on it's home
 
 page instead 
 
 of JSP?  That's kind of like theserverside.com switching everything
 over to ASP or Cold Fusion.
 
 Maybe I missed something awhile back (like why you guys switched
 over).
 
 
 he he, funny.
 
 The reason we switched over is that POSTNUKE IS DONE. There is no
 equivalent application in the Java space.  So it is done we take it, we
 are being functional. The requirement is the increase in development
 volume and the fact that JBoss-dev just isn't enough to scale this
 operation any longer.
 
 On the new website you have blogs per developer that sum up the week in
 development and let you get in the development easier.
 
 If this was available in java I would of course switch in an instant.
 
 HOWEVER THE PROBLEM is that it is slow. The reason is not PHP it is the
 way PHP is usually written. Think a pile of JSP/JDBC(straight) with no
 caching.  He he, EJB is really a god send and we badly need it on this
 application.  Our website used to be at 15% utilization CPU, with this
 new application (does the same runtime basically) we are at 100%
 
 we are porting from PHP to JSP to refactor with EJB and see if we can
 speed up that mess abit :)
 
 marcf
 
 
 -c
 
 On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 07:53:42PM -0800, Sundaram Ramasamy wrote:
 
 Today I visited jboss.org web site, it looks different
 
 (with php . I 
 
 don't know much about php.
 
 Is there any advantage in PHP compare to JSP?
 
 Thanks
 
 -SR
 
 
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RE: [jboss-group] Fw: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?

2003-01-09 Thread marc fleury


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:16 PM
 To: 'JBossGroup'
 Subject: [jboss-group] Fw: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?
 
 
 
 This will go on forever now.
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christopher Blunck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?
 
 
  Does anybody (other than me) find it ironic that the leading open 
  source application server project uses PHP on it's home 
 page instead 
  of JSP?  That's kind of like theserverside.com switching everything 
  over to ASP or Cold Fusion.
  
  Maybe I missed something awhile back (like why you guys switched 
  over).

he he, funny.

The reason we switched over is that POSTNUKE IS DONE. There is no
equivalent application in the Java space.  So it is done we take it, we
are being functional. The requirement is the increase in development
volume and the fact that JBoss-dev just isn't enough to scale this
operation any longer. 

On the new website you have blogs per developer that sum up the week in
development and let you get in the development easier. 

If this was available in java I would of course switch in an instant. 

HOWEVER THE PROBLEM is that it is slow. The reason is not PHP it is the
way PHP is usually written. Think a pile of JSP/JDBC(straight) with no
caching.  He he, EJB is really a god send and we badly need it on this
application.  Our website used to be at 15% utilization CPU, with this
new application (does the same runtime basically) we are at 100%

we are porting from PHP to JSP to refactor with EJB and see if we can
speed up that mess abit :)

marcf
  
  
  -c
  
  On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 07:53:42PM -0800, Sundaram Ramasamy wrote:
   Today I visited jboss.org web site, it looks different 
 (with php . I 
   don't know much about php.
   
   Is there any advantage in PHP compare to JSP?
   
   Thanks
   
   -SR
   
 
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RE: [jboss-group] Fw: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?

2003-01-09 Thread Bruce Snyder
This one time, at band camp, marc fleury said:

mfHOWEVER THE PROBLEM is that it is slow. The reason is not PHP it is the
mfway PHP is usually written. Think a pile of JSP/JDBC(straight) with no
mfcaching.  He he, EJB is really a god send and we badly need it on this
mfapplication.  Our website used to be at 15% utilization CPU, with this
mfnew application (does the same runtime basically) we are at 100%

Have you tried to implemented the PHP Accelerator
(http://phpa.phorum.org/)? It only takes minutes to install and
configure and the performance gains are impressive.

Bruce
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perl -e 'print unpack(u30,0G)U8V4\@4VYY95R\F9EG)E=\$\!FFEI+F-O;0\`\`);'


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RE: [jboss-group] Fw: [JBoss-user] Why PHP why not JSP?

2003-01-09 Thread marc fleury
 This one time, at band camp, marc fleury said:

OK I will stuck this flute in my box.

 Have you tried to implemented the PHP Accelerator 
(http://phpa.phorum.org/)? It only takes minutes to install and
configure and the performance gains are impressive.


Sounds great.  However the problem is the jdbc serialization (PHP
equivalent) so I doubt it will dramatically speed that up.  It will
certainly help on the pure PHP part though.

marcf



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