Re: [JBoss-user] Q: jBoss Jetty Package

2001-03-30 Thread Greg Wilkins

Julian Gosnell wrote:

 I shall be rewriting the jboss_jetty integration this weekend, now that i
 finally have the time to figure JMX out properly.

This will include the Jetty 3.1 JMX enhancements, where most if Jetty's own components
are JXM manageable (threadpools, listeners, contexts etc.)


 Please be more specific about your war file problem - If you can tell me what
 you think is broken I shall let Greg know.
 
 I also hope to deal with a WAR redeployment problem that seems to have
 appeared.

Firstly Jetty does not support auto-deploy, you must request a WAR file to
be deployed, either by code, config or JMX.   This is a small price to pay and there
are good security reasons for it.   I may add this option the next version of
jetty, but it will be off by default.

Jetty does have a problem at the moment with redeploying changed war files if
it is configured NOT to unpack them.  The JarURLConnection class in the latest
JVMs from Sun is very broken, and we will have to write our own to get around
this problem.  For now if you redeploy wars, configure Jetty to
extract them to a temporary location.

 
 Greg, has anyone done any recent performance comparisons ?

Nobody that I know has completed any formal tests - other than informal feedback
that Jetty has 4 or 5 times more throughput than tomcat, I really don't know.

I just build Jetty to be as fast as I can, and fix anything that people complain
is slow   But I'm more than happy to assist anybody who wants to do a formal
comparison.

cheers
 
 Jules
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Will new jboss/jetty release be able to handle war files better?
 How does jboss/jetty (or jetty) handle standard war's (war, not ear)? I had
 a trivial
 deploy with tomcat (just copied war file into webapps and it worked),
 however I couldn't
 do that with jboss/jetty (or jetty standalone).
 We would like to avoid tomcat/apache integration, if jetty does not need any
 external web server for speed, however...
 By the way, are there any performance comparisons there? Tomcat 3.2.1 also
 looks
 pretty fast to me, by itself...
 Thanks. Miomir
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Gosnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Q: jBoss  Jetty Package
 
 Looking at it as we speak...
 
 It's taking a while, beacause Jetty has a completely new JMX-ified wrapper.
 I
 am trying to figure out how to connect it to the JBoss JMX stuff.
 
 Jules
 
 "Day, Jem BGI WAC" wrote:
 
 
 Guys,
 
   Do you intend to update the "jBoss  Jetty" combined distribution for
 
 2.1.
 
 The
   download page says that the standalone  tomcat versions were produced
 
 on
 
   Mar 26th but the jetty version is from Jan 28th.
 
   Great stuff - keep up the good work.
 
 Jem..
 
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RE: [JBoss-user] Q: jBoss Jetty Package

2001-03-30 Thread MArandjelovic

Thanks for feedback, Julian, Greg.

I have a problem deploying any war file in jetty or jboss/jetty
(I have been tested my sample war, java bug tracking system from
 http://www.gjt.org/pkg/bugrat/ and javacorporate's eforum)
and couldn't find any instruction how to do that. Could you
please provide sample configuration for deploying generic war with jetty
and jboss/jetty?! I could make my standalone servlets/html work fine 
(after some troubles), but I really would like to do it with war.
It doesn't need to be auto-deployment, but I don't want to do an
installation of unpacked files, setting classpaths etc.

By the way I have the same problem (war not working) with ATG Dynamo 
:-), but it was wery easy with tomcat (all three applications mentioned).

I would be also trying to make some comparisons (ejb and non
ejb application) between Dynamo5/iPlanet, jboss/jetty, jboss/tomcat 
and jboss/tomcat/apache, to see how suitable is each of them for 
for a particular kind of application, either non-ejb (still useful) or ejb.
I would like to use the same simple app a) war and b) ear file in each, to
avoid deployment dependencies. I have made (very) simple ejb and non-ejb
which work
in all environments, but I still have to do lot of configuration (and that
affects the results as well). Any suggestions here would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks Miomir


-Original Message-
From: Greg Wilkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 1:17 PM
To: Julian Gosnell
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Q: jBoss  Jetty Package


Julian Gosnell wrote:

 I shall be rewriting the jboss_jetty integration this weekend, now that i
 finally have the time to figure JMX out properly.

This will include the Jetty 3.1 JMX enhancements, where most if Jetty's own
components
are JXM manageable (threadpools, listeners, contexts etc.)


 Please be more specific about your war file problem - If you can tell me
what
 you think is broken I shall let Greg know.
 
 I also hope to deal with a WAR redeployment problem that seems to have
 appeared.

Firstly Jetty does not support auto-deploy, you must request a WAR file to
be deployed, either by code, config or JMX.   This is a small price to pay
and there
are good security reasons for it.   I may add this option the next version
of
jetty, but it will be off by default.

Jetty does have a problem at the moment with redeploying changed war files
if
it is configured NOT to unpack them.  The JarURLConnection class in the
latest
JVMs from Sun is very broken, and we will have to write our own to get
around
this problem.  For now if you redeploy wars, configure Jetty to
extract them to a temporary location.

 
 Greg, has anyone done any recent performance comparisons ?

Nobody that I know has completed any formal tests - other than informal
feedback
that Jetty has 4 or 5 times more throughput than tomcat, I really don't
know.

I just build Jetty to be as fast as I can, and fix anything that people
complain
is slow   But I'm more than happy to assist anybody who wants to do a
formal
comparison.

cheers
 
 Jules
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Will new jboss/jetty release be able to handle war files better?
 How does jboss/jetty (or jetty) handle standard war's (war, not ear)? I
had
 a trivial
 deploy with tomcat (just copied war file into webapps and it worked),
 however I couldn't
 do that with jboss/jetty (or jetty standalone).
 We would like to avoid tomcat/apache integration, if jetty does not need
any
 external web server for speed, however...
 By the way, are there any performance comparisons there? Tomcat 3.2.1
also
 looks
 pretty fast to me, by itself...
 Thanks. Miomir
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Julian Gosnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Q: jBoss  Jetty Package
 
 Looking at it as we speak...
 
 It's taking a while, beacause Jetty has a completely new JMX-ified
wrapper.
 I
 am trying to figure out how to connect it to the JBoss JMX stuff.
 
 Jules
 
 "Day, Jem BGI WAC" wrote:
 
 
 Guys,
 
   Do you intend to update the "jBoss  Jetty" combined distribution for
 
 2.1.
 
 The
   download page says that the standalone  tomcat versions were produced
 
 on
 
   Mar 26th but the jetty version is from Jan 28th.
 
   Great stuff - keep up the good work.
 
 Jem..
 
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Re: [JBoss-user] Q: jBoss Jetty Package

2001-03-29 Thread Julian Gosnell

Looking at it as we speak...

It's taking a while, beacause Jetty has a completely new JMX-ified wrapper. I
am trying to figure out how to connect it to the JBoss JMX stuff.


Jules


"Day, Jem BGI WAC" wrote:

 Guys,

   Do you intend to update the "jBoss  Jetty" combined distribution for 2.1.
 The
   download page says that the standalone  tomcat versions were produced on
   Mar 26th but the jetty version is from Jan 28th.

   Great stuff - keep up the good work.

 Jem..

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RE: [JBoss-user] Q: jBoss Jetty Package

2001-03-29 Thread MArandjelovic

Will new jboss/jetty release be able to handle war files better?
How does jboss/jetty (or jetty) handle standard war's (war, not ear)? I had
a trivial
deploy with tomcat (just copied war file into webapps and it worked),
however I couldn't 
do that with jboss/jetty (or jetty standalone). 
We would like to avoid tomcat/apache integration, if jetty does not need any
external web server for speed, however...
By the way, are there any performance comparisons there? Tomcat 3.2.1 also
looks
pretty fast to me, by itself...
Thanks. Miomir

-Original Message-
From: Julian Gosnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBoss-user] Q: jBoss  Jetty Package


Looking at it as we speak...

It's taking a while, beacause Jetty has a completely new JMX-ified wrapper.
I
am trying to figure out how to connect it to the JBoss JMX stuff.


Jules


"Day, Jem BGI WAC" wrote:

 Guys,

   Do you intend to update the "jBoss  Jetty" combined distribution for
2.1.
 The
   download page says that the standalone  tomcat versions were produced
on
   Mar 26th but the jetty version is from Jan 28th.

   Great stuff - keep up the good work.

 Jem..

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