Re: [JDEV] Open IM (was Jabber Transports - New Architecture)

[Ashvil]

> I just posted a new poll at JabberCentral, hopefully we'll get some
> good feedback.
>
> Peter

Thx Peter.
I added a comment asking folks to submit detailed feature requests and
forwarding the poll to their friends.

Regards,
Ashvil

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Re: [JDEV] help

[Gunjan Kakani]

Hi Vikas,
 
Probably I was also at your stage a couple of 
months ago...i took the following path...
 
Best way to know jabber is to install, and run it 
first of all, it gives you a good excitement to start with, configure 
transports, configure other components, and setup your own (so called .IM 
service), start using those funky clients and ask people to look at what you 
have achieved, I am sure people will be amazed with that setup, specially 
knowing that you have not even opened the details of Jabber platform yet and 
still have an amazing IM platform up and running!:)
 
Next, I would suggest to refer to the documents, 
how-to's at http://docs.jabber.org (i am 
not sure if the URL is changed???) and also start referring other Jabber sites 
like http://www.jabbercentral.com you 
will see, lots of news, and other important links there. 
 
If you want to be more adventurous, than I would 
suggest referring to "Programming Jabber" book by our own DJ. Since you (and me 
to) are from India, there is no Indian reprint available as of now, but the book 
is available at http://safari.oreilly.com for online 
viewing with some minimal charge (i think its affordable in Indian Rupees too!). 
I think they also offer a trial account. Thanks DJ for that nice piece of work, 
and thanks Oreilly for providing that online:)
 
Once you have the Jabber platform up and running 
you can start experimenting with various settings and configurations, and you 
will start understanding the internals of the server, and communication protocol 
also. There are some cool Perl modules available at CPAN to get you started with 
writing some small perl programs to communicate with Jabber server, and do some 
funny things, again DJ has published some cool articles on the Perl modules 
(accidentally these modules are also written by him only:-) that you can refer. 
I am sure with that information, you will feel at home with Jabber platform, and 
I am sure people at JDEV and conference.jabber.org/JDEV are always here to 
help!:)
 
Cheers, and have fun with Jabber!
 
-GC
 

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  took a project to understand thejabber server and its fuctions ... i am 
  quite new to the client-serverfields and have very little idea about it . 
  If someone could help me fromwhere to start it would be of really great 
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[JDEV] SAX Parsing and server headers

[migs paraz]

Hi,
I'm using SAX with the Muse components, with either
Crimson or JAXP for parsing.

It's fine with the jabber.org server, which starts
with:






but fails with my local jabber 1.4.2 server, which
starts with:





I don't understand. What is the difference between the
two, and what server does jabber.org run?

Thanks!

=
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Re: [JDEV] problems about xdb_sql

[Zu Zhihui]

I use JIM. 

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Subject: Re: [JDEV] problems about xdb_sql


> I have encountered this problem too, but suprisingly it's only when i am
> using konverse gabber works like a charm.
> 
> 
> Zu Zhihui wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > There is a problem while using xdb_sql. 
> > The login procedure takes several minutes.
> > But it's normal when I use xdb_file. 
> > 
> > Any one have used xdb_sql? Can you give 
> > me some info about it?
> > 
> > My env. is as the following:
> > 
> > xdb_sql 1.2
> > jabberd 1.4.2
> > MySQL 3.23.41
> > RedHat 7.2
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > --
> > Zu Zhihui
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Re: [JDEV] Open IM (was Jabber Transports - New Architecture)

[Peter Saint-Andre]

On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Ashvil wrote:

> > I feel it's becoming obvious that the only way Jabber will have any impact
> > in the IM world is to grow fast enough and big enough that other IM
> > systems have to sit up and take notice. So what do we need to do in order
> > to grow that fast and become that ubiquitous?
> 
> I agree 100%.
> Peter - Can you post this question on JabberCentral, so that we can get end
> user feedback on what features will make users switch to Jabber.

I just posted a new poll at JabberCentral, hopefully we'll get some
good feedback.

Peter

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Re: [JDEV] problems about xdb_sql

[raditha dissanayake]

I have encountered this problem too, but suprisingly it's only when i am
using konverse gabber works like a charm.


Zu Zhihui wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> There is a problem while using xdb_sql. 
> The login procedure takes several minutes.
> But it's normal when I use xdb_file. 
> 
> Any one have used xdb_sql? Can you give 
> me some info about it?
> 
> My env. is as the following:
> 
> xdb_sql 1.2
> jabberd 1.4.2
> MySQL 3.23.41
> RedHat 7.2
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> --
> Zu Zhihui
> Tel: +86-10-68456557
> Fax: +86-10-68456578
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[JDEV] problems about xdb_sql

[Zu Zhihui]

Hello all,

There is a problem while using xdb_sql. 
The login procedure takes several minutes.
But it's normal when I use xdb_file. 

Any one have used xdb_sql? Can you give 
me some info about it?

My env. is as the following:

xdb_sql 1.2
jabberd 1.4.2
MySQL 3.23.41
RedHat 7.2

Best regards,

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RE: [JDEV] help

[Viraj Samaranayake]

Do u want to build up new jabber server part or client part.Please mention
clearly ur idea.
viraj

-Original Message-
From: vikas jain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [JDEV] help


hi everybody
 i am a second year comp Sc student . I took a project to understand the
jabber server and its fuctions ... i am quite new to the client-server
fields and have very little idea about it . If someone could help me from
where to start it would be of really great help 

Thanking u
vikas jain  
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Re: [JDEV] Putting Jabberd in Startup on Linux

[Dave]

If you're using Slackware or similar, I have a suite of scripts, as well.  I'll put in 
a GPL notice and post 'em on the 'net if somebody wants to see them.  I just figured 
there were so many Jabber server startup scripts already out there. . .

Dave Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Gunjan Kakani wrote:
> 
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> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just downloaded and successfully configured Jabber server for the =
> first time, and it worked great,
> 
> 
> Now, i want to start the Jabberd when my linux server boots? How do I =
> put Jabberd on Linux startup? Since, it leaves jabber.pid file when =
> closing the server, I have to manually delete it as of now? Can anyone =
> point me to right resource to handle this?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> -GC
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> 
> 
> Hi all,
>  
> I just downloaded and successfully =
> configured=20
> Jabber server for the first time, and it worked great,
>  
>  
> Now, i want to start the Jabberd when =
> my linux=20
> server boots? How do I put Jabberd on Linux startup? Since, it leaves =
> jabber.pid=20
> file when closing the server, I have to manually delete it as of now? =
> Can anyone=20
> point me to right resource to handle this?
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Cheers
>  
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Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies : leave AOL alone

[Dave]

That may very well be the only long-term solution, but we can't just sulk in the 
meantime, refusing to piggyback on an existing protocol.

 - Dave


=?iso-8859-1?Q?Riviere_St=E9phane_Jean?= wrote:
> 
> In that case, the IPv6 network would have the same problem with SMTP and
> NNTP servers, wouldn't it ? I don't think that HTTP tunneling of SMTP/NNTP
> is planned, but perhaps I'm wrong...
> 
> I don't think that HTTP-tunneling of everything is a good thing.
> The point is : firewalls were "created" to filter access to network
> ressources. The HTTP port is opened on most of them to allow web-surfing and
> webserver hosting. If every protocols get HTTP-tunneled, the firewall
> becomes completely useless, because all protocols will go through the HTTP
> port. So, what you'll get will be HTTP-level firewalls that will filter the
> tunneled  protocols...
> 
> I really think that HTTP-tunneling is a short-time workaround to solve the
> current firewall problems. Making Jabber accepted as a standard protocol
> like SMTP or HTTP by network administrators will perhaps take time, but it's
> probably the only good solution...
> 
> 
> Stéphane.
> 
> 
> 
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Envoyé : vendredi 8 mars 2002 22:37
> À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Objet : Re: [JDEV] jabberd and Proxies : leave AOL alone
> 
> 
> Before we go picking at AOL, it's worth noting that an IPv6 network
> has no way of accessing our IPv4 internet without proxies, unless your
> IPv6 network also has a valid IPv4 block mapped to it.  In that case,
> putting your server on the Internet will be impossible, even if you
> aren't using AOL.  Having an HTTP-based s2s sidesteps all these issues
> in a very convenient way.
> 
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[JDEV] help

[vikas jain]

hi everybody
 i am a second year comp Sc student . I took a project to understand the
jabber server and its fuctions ... i am quite new to the client-server
fields and have very little idea about it . If someone could help me from
where to start it would be of really great help 

Thanking u
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[JDEV] MSN Transport - xdb_sql source code?

[Eddie Conner]

Hello,
I am also interested in the MSN transport code fix for xdb_sql. Would it
be possible to send the code to me?
Thanks,
Eddie

We are running a version of the MSN transport here that works with
xdb_sql. If you'd like to run it I can email a tarball to you, but it
won't be easy to set up. There are quite a few things you have to do to
xdb_sql before it will work with it. You'll have to add a table to your
mySQL db, add query definitions to the xdb_sql.xml file and there was a
bug in xdb_sql that prevented the msn transport from working correctly
with it that we fixed. I don't know if this bug has been fixed in the
newest version of xdb_sql or not. The bug was due to the fact that the
msn transport sends values to xdb as attributes of an xml tag instead of
as children tags I think. It may have been the other way around. This
functionality was broken in version 1.1 of xdb_sql, if it was fixed I'm
sure the maintainer will chime in. If it hasn't been fixed I need to
send him our fix. If you want to give it a shot let me know. Just
realize that it will be pretty complicated. =20 Jason Reineri 

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[JDEV] A "sniffer" component

[Philippe Raxhon]

Hi,

It's perhaps a dumb question, but I want to know, so...

Is it possible to have a component that receive (a kind of CC) all the 
packets going throught the router (the jabber backbone as DJ says), like 
a sniffer on a network? I suppose it's possible by hacking the server 
code, but I rather prefer an accept component.

Philippe

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[JDEV] xdb_sql and MSN transport code?

[Eddie Conner]

Hello,

I am attempting to use xdb_sql with Jabber and am wanting to use the MSN
transport. Would it be possible to request the code as well?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Eddie Conner



(From posting found on the internet)

We are running a version of the MSN transport here that works with
xdb_sql.  If you'd like to run it I can email a tarball to you, but it
won't be easy to set up.  There are quite a few things you have to do to
xdb_sql before it will work with it.  You'll have to add a table to your
mySQL db, add query definitions to the xdb_sql.xml file and there was a
bug in xdb_sql that prevented the msn transport from working correctly
with it that we fixed.  I don't know if this bug has been fixed in the
newest version of xdb_sql or not.  The bug was due to the fact that the
msn transport sends values to xdb as attributes of an xml tag instead of
as children tags I think.  It may have been the other way around.  This
functionality was broken in version 1.1 of xdb_sql, if it was fixed I'm
sure the maintainer will chime in.  If it hasn't been fixed I need to
send him our fix.  If you want to give it a shot let me know.  Just
realize that it will be pretty complicated.
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Re: [JDEV] 1.4 Services Daemon

[Philippe Raxhon]

You should then write a component in java. for more about components see:
- http://docs.jabber.org/general/html/component-intro.html
- http://www.pipetree.com/~dj/fosdem2002/

There are several java libraries for jabber. You can use JabberBeans 
(http://jabberbeans.sourceforge.net/), especially the Launcher class. It 
needs some mods but can easily be used to write accept components.

Cheers

Philippe

mj wrote:

> Can I write a service in java, and register that service in 1.4 (Linux).
>
> I would like to incorporate my XML-RPC and/or SOAP proxy into
>
> the server.
>
>  
>
> Questions..
>
> 1) Can I create custom namespace for the services.
>
> 2) Are the messages passed over to the registered services or
>
>are the tied internally to the sockets on the server?
>
>  
>
> I guess I could rephrase this as:
>
> Does the 1.4 server support java "plugin" outside service.
>
>  
>
> Thanks for reading my post.
>
>  
>
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[JDEV] XDB_SQL>XML & Jabber.xml Help

[Satish Reddy]

Hello
 i
   am configuring Jabber server to use post gresql as back end.
 i
   have problems registering yahoo transport .
 not
able to figure out where am igoing wrong 
 i'd
b obliged if u can help me out inthis issue.
 attached
are both the configurationfiles jabber.xml and xdb_sql.xml 
 Best
Regds
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Re: [JDEV] JECL README

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Thanks! Much more to be done on it when I have time (like, a real guide
for writing components)

Peter

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On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Glenn MacGregor wrote:

> Peter,
> 
> Very nice!!
> - Original Message - 
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> Subject: [JDEV] JECL README
> 
> 
> > FYI, I've put together the beginnings of a README for JECL. It's in CVS
> > here:
> > 
> > http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/jecl/
> > 
> > Peter
> > 
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[JDEV] msn transport registration

[Michael S. Coulman]

I am trying to register my client to msn-transport 1.1

SENT: 

RECD: Enter your MSN 
Messenger account and password. Example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Nickname is 
optional.edf0d234ad01724c72c0223f93c7c6cb6594416d

SENT: [EMAIL PROTECTED]**edf0d234ad01724c72c0223f93c7c6cb6594416djoe

RECD: [EMAIL PROTECTED]**edf0d234ad01724c72c0223f93c7c6cb6594416djoeRemote Server Error

Can anyone shed light on the 502 error?

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Re: [JDEV] Yahoo With Jabber

[Matthias Wimmer]

Hi Riyaad!

Riyaad Miller schrieb am 2002-03-08 09:00:49:
> I've actually triedusing the transport mentioned is the link below ...followed the 
>setup and readme and all
> No such luck  :-(

>   I would try using the Yahoo! transport available at
> http://amessage.de/patches/ rather than the one on the Jabber websites.
> Matthias Wimmer was kind enough to update the Yahoo tranport, which
> appears to be abandoned (sorry if I am wrong about this and offended
> the maintainer, but I have not noticed any updates in awhile).

If you can give me some more information what problems you get I'll try
to fix the problem.
I'm sorry ... havn't had much time to read this list the last week.


Tot kijk
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Re: [JDEV] JECL README

[Glenn MacGregor]

Peter,

Very nice!!
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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:26 PM
Subject: [JDEV] JECL README


> FYI, I've put together the beginnings of a README for JECL. It's in CVS
> here:
> 
> http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/jecl/
> 
> Peter
> 
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Re: [JDEV] Yahoo Transport

[Matthias Wimmer]

Hi Riyaad!

Riyaad Miller schrieb am 2002-03-04 10:27:39:
> I've tried various implementations of Yahoo with no luck.
> Does this transport actually work? 

Have you tried
http://amessage.de/patches/yahoo-transport-0.8.4.5.tar.bz2 ... works for
me.


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[JDEV] xdb_sql ( mysql ) & Yahoo Transport

[bhkwan]

I am running Jabber 1.4.2 with xdb_sql 1.2.  It is working except for yahoo
transport.  It didn't safe the logon data at all.  So, user need to
register the object to yahoo everytime they get online.  I have already
tried to increase the username's field in the yahoo table to VCHAR(255),
but no luck.  I am wondering xdb_sql doesn't implement any transport
related stuff at all.

does anyone has this working?

thanks

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RE: [JDEV] MSN Transport - xdb_sql source code?

[Rodrigo Roman]

Title: Mensaje



also 
interested...

  
  -Mensaje original-De: Eddie Conner 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: Martes, 12 de Marzo de 2002 
  05:53 p.m.Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Asunto: [JDEV] MSN 
  Transport - xdb_sql source code?
  
  Hello,
  I am also interested in the MSN transport code fix for xdb_sql. Would it be 
  possible to send the code to me?
  Thanks,
  Eddie
   
  We are running a version of the MSN transport here that works with xdb_sql. 
  If you'd like to run it I can email a tarball to you, but it won't be easy to 
  set up. There are quite a few things you have to do to xdb_sql before it will 
  work with it. You'll have to add a table to your mySQL db, add query 
  definitions to the xdb_sql.xml file and there was a bug in xdb_sql that 
  prevented the msn transport from working correctly with it that we fixed. I 
  don't know if this bug has been fixed in the newest version of xdb_sql or not. 
  The bug was due to the fact that the msn transport sends values to xdb as 
  attributes of an xml tag instead of as children tags I think. It may have been 
  the other way around. This functionality was broken in version 1.1 of xdb_sql, 
  if it was fixed I'm sure the maintainer will chime in. If it hasn't been fixed 
  I need to send him our fix. If you want to give it a shot let me know. Just 
  realize that it will be pretty complicated. =20 Jason Reineri 

[JDEV] MSN Transport - xdb_sql source code?

[Eddie Conner]

Hello,
I am also interested in the MSN transport code fix for xdb_sql. Would it be 
possible to send the code to me?
Thanks,
Eddie
 
We are running a version of the MSN transport here that works with xdb_sql. 
If you'd like to run it I can email a tarball to you, but it won't be easy to 
set up. There are quite a few things you have to do to xdb_sql before it will 
work with it. You'll have to add a table to your mySQL db, add query definitions 
to the xdb_sql.xml file and there was a bug in xdb_sql that prevented the msn 
transport from working correctly with it that we fixed. I don't know if this bug 
has been fixed in the newest version of xdb_sql or not. The bug was due to the 
fact that the msn transport sends values to xdb as attributes of an xml tag 
instead of as children tags I think. It may have been the other way around. This 
functionality was broken in version 1.1 of xdb_sql, if it was fixed I'm sure the 
maintainer will chime in. If it hasn't been fixed I need to send him our fix. If 
you want to give it a shot let me know. Just realize that it will be pretty 
complicated. =20 Jason Reineri 

Re: [JDEV] JECL README

[DJ Adams]

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:26:54PM -0600, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> FYI, I've put together the beginnings of a README for JECL. It's in CVS
> here:
> 
> http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/jecl/

Hey, nice work. 

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[JDEV] JECL README

[Peter Saint-Andre]

FYI, I've put together the beginnings of a README for JECL. It's in CVS
here:

http://www.jabberstudio.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/jecl/

Peter

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Re: [JDEV] Re: Unregister with MSN Transport

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Well, the mxs-transport *should* support that, since it is the standard
protocol for unregistering. If it doesn't, then it's not complying with
our beautiful protocol and maybe that's a bug that needs fixing. :)

Peter

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On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Amarnath Yara wrote:

> Hi Peter, Thanks for the reply. The link that you send me shows the xml 
> below for unregister
> 
> Node request to unregister:
> 
>  to="service.denmark"
> from="hamlet@denmark"
> id="i_reg_003">
>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
> Successful unregistration:
> 
>  type="result"
> from="service.denmark"
> to="hamlet@denmark"
> id="i_reg_003"/>
> 
> This works very well with yahoo transport. When I send the same to 
> unregister msn transport, the server is disconnecting me. By the way I am 
> using msn-transport 1.1 and jabber server 1.4.1. Any pointers ..
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 
> Amarnath Yara
> Columbia, SC
> 
> 
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Re: [JDEV] Putting Jabberd in Startup on Linux

[Gunjan Kakani]

Hi Russ,
 
 
thanks for the help, it worked great.and 
saved my time to...
 
I just made one change in that too, since, at my 
home, I dont have a UPS power supply, I have to bare sudden power failures...in 
that case the jabber.pid file will remain there...so next time when server 
reboots..I have to manually delete it before starting the server, so I just put 
one "rm" comman in the "start" case also to remove the pid file before 
starting...a dirty way...but works..!:)
 
Anyway...it was really handy and useful 
thanks!
 
Cheers!
 
-GC

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  J. R. 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:24 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [JDEV] Putting Jabberd in 
  Startup on Linux
  
  Hi,
   
  I have posted a couple of scripts that will do 
  this for Linux.  The first script you edit to taste in put in your jabber 
  root, making sure it's at least mode 0700:
   
  http://www.bluecows.com/scripts/jabberd.start
   
  The second script should be edited to taste and 
  goes in /etc/rc.d/init.d.  It should be mode 0755:
   
  http://www.bluecows.com/scripts/jabberd
   
  You can use chkconfig to install it or set the 
  runlevels manually.
   
  Hope this helps,
  Russ
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Gunjan 
Kakani 
To: jdev 
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:38 
AM
Subject: [JDEV] Putting Jabberd in 
Startup on Linux

Hi all,
 
I just downloaded and successfully configured 
Jabber server for the first time, and it worked great,
 
 
Now, i want to start the Jabberd when my 
linux server boots? How do I put Jabberd on Linux startup? Since, it leaves 
jabber.pid file when closing the server, I have to manually delete it as of 
now? Can anyone point me to right resource to handle this?
 
Thanks!
 
Cheers
 
-GC

[JDEV] On Privacy/Invisibility (aka: Buddy Permit/Deny)

[Jean Louis Seguineau]

Peter,

I think we are on the same page :)
My comment was not to change the use of the  tag (which keep some
consistency with other constructs), but only the type attribute of that same
tag (what you expressed in your second point).  What I meant was to use
something like:


  


  
  


  

  


where the type attribute of the  tag which is only presented as
"block" in the JEP becomes either "deny" for black list and "allow" for
white list. This way, we should be able to bring all privacy management
under a single umbrella, with an adequate granularity.

Jean-Louis



> Message: 12
> From: "Peter Millard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] On Privacy/Invisibility (aka: Buddy Permit/Deny)
> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:38:39 -0700
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I used  as the tag for a few reasons:
>
> 1) It keeps consistancy w/ the roster protocol.
> 2) It allows the type attribute to be used for: allow|deny|remove. Using
> allow and deny as the element names would mean we'd have to come up w/ a
new
> way of removing items from the list.
>
> Otherwise, I find that often this is just a XML syntax "religious" issue
:)
> If we just needed allow & deny, I'd agree to use the element names. But
the
> removal issue is the big reason I went with a generic  tag.
>
> Peter M.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jean Louis Seguineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] On Privacy/Invisibility (aka: Buddy Permit/Deny)
>
>
> > Peter
> >
> > After looking again at JEP-0016: Server-Based Privacy Rules
> > (jabber:iq:privacy), wouldn't it be interresting to use "allow"/"deny"
as
> > type instead of "block" in the item tag. This way the namespace would be
> > able to manage both the blacklist and the whitelist in a single process.
> >
> > Jean-Louis
>


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Re: [JDEV] On Privacy/Invisibility (aka: Buddy Permit/Deny)

[Peter Millard]

I used  as the tag for a few reasons:

1) It keeps consistancy w/ the roster protocol.
2) It allows the type attribute to be used for: allow|deny|remove. Using
allow and deny as the element names would mean we'd have to come up w/ a new
way of removing items from the list.

Otherwise, I find that often this is just a XML syntax "religious" issue :)
If we just needed allow & deny, I'd agree to use the element names. But the
removal issue is the big reason I went with a generic  tag.

Peter M.

- Original Message -
From: "Jean Louis Seguineau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [JDEV] On Privacy/Invisibility (aka: Buddy Permit/Deny)


> Peter
>
> After looking again at JEP-0016: Server-Based Privacy Rules
> (jabber:iq:privacy), wouldn't it be interresting to use "allow"/"deny" as
> type instead of "block" in the item tag. This way the namespace would be
> able to manage both the blacklist and the whitelist in a single process.
>
> Jean-Louis


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Re: [JDEV] Putting Jabberd in Startup on Linux

[Rodrigo Borrego Bernabé]

> Gunjan Kakani wrote:
> 
>Since, it leaves jabber.pid file when closing the server, 

It shouldn't. I think it's a bug on MSN Transport. Can anyone look it?

Rodri

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Re: [JDEV] Putting Jabberd in Startup on Linux

[Ralph Siemsen]

Gunjan Kakani wrote:

> Now, i want to start the Jabberd when my linux server boots? How do I 
> put Jabberd on Linux startup? Since, it leaves jabber.pid file when 
> closing the server, I have to manually delete it as of now? Can anyone 
> point me to right resource to handle this?
Benjamin Reed did a really nice job at packaging the Jabber server, 
including a suitable start/stop script for RedHat.  It could be readily 
adapted for other distributions.

See his message to this list from 02/21/2002 ("New Jabber RPMs") or get 
it from ftp://ftp.scenespot.org/rpms/redhat-7.2/ (both i386 and src).

-R

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Re: [JDEV] On Privacy/Invisibility (aka: Buddy Permit/Deny)

[Jean Louis Seguineau]

Peter

After looking again at JEP-0016: Server-Based Privacy Rules
(jabber:iq:privacy), wouldn't it be interresting to use "allow"/"deny" as
type instead of "block" in the item tag. This way the namespace would be
able to manage both the blacklist and the whitelist in a single process.

Jean-Louis


> From: "Peter Millard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] On Privacy/Invisibility (aka: Buddy Permit/Deny)
> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 11:00:50 -0700
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Jim -
>
> For those of us not some intimately familiar with the AIM client, perhaps
> you could explain in more "jabber-ish" terms what these modes mean. Are
they
> "presence modes" (ie, determining who gets you presence info) or "message
> modes" where you can determine who can send you messages??
>
> More comments inline below:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Seymour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [STUFF MUNCHED]
> > With server release 1.4.1, I found this model difficult to achieve, at
> > best.  (At least not w/o maintaining a lot of local state information.
> > E.g.: who you've denied in the past so if you later want to permit
> > them, you can make the appropriate presence/roster changes.)
> >
> > This JEP was brought to my attention
> >
> > JEP-0016: Server-Based Privacy Rules (jabber:iq:privacy)
> > http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0016.html
> >
> > I had considered submitting comments to the author.  (For example:
> > "white- listing" needs to go in right at the start, IMHO.)  In the
> > mean-time, server 1.4.2 has been released.  In the docs for that I find
> >
> > JEP-0018: Presence
> > http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0018.html
> >
> > This seems to duplicate/trump/obsolete/whatever, JEP-0016, in a way?
>
> Not at all.. Blacklisting + Whitelisting are VERY different from invisible
> mode. JEP 16 deals with how clients can control what packets the server
> (jabberd) delivers to it. JEP 18 deals with how the user can control WHO
can
> see them online (their availability information).
>
> > As you might imagine, I'm wondering what to think of all this.
> >
> > Lastly, in any event, it seems to me the client code will have to know
> > what version of the server it's dealing with so it can know what is
> > supported and what is not.  (E.g.: 1.4.1 won't support "invisible,"
> > 1.4.2 does.)  Is there a way to fetch the server's release level?
>
> Servers that do NOT support invisible mode will return a presence error.
> This is pretty easy for the client to trap and then send a normal
> "available" packet and notify the user that the server doesn't support
> invisible mode. You can try this against any 1.4.1 or JCS install.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Peter M.

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Re: [JDEV] Putting Jabberd in Startup on Linux

[J. R.]

Hi,
 
I have posted a couple of scripts that will do this 
for Linux.  The first script you edit to taste in put in your jabber root, 
making sure it's at least mode 0700:
 
http://www.bluecows.com/scripts/jabberd.start
 
The second script should be edited to taste and 
goes in /etc/rc.d/init.d.  It should be mode 0755:
 
http://www.bluecows.com/scripts/jabberd
 
You can use chkconfig to install it or set the 
runlevels manually.
 
Hope this helps,
Russ

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gunjan Kakani 
  
  To: jdev 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:38 
  AM
  Subject: [JDEV] Putting Jabberd in 
  Startup on Linux
  
  Hi all,
   
  I just downloaded and successfully configured 
  Jabber server for the first time, and it worked great,
   
   
  Now, i want to start the Jabberd when my linux 
  server boots? How do I put Jabberd on Linux startup? Since, it leaves 
  jabber.pid file when closing the server, I have to manually delete it as of 
  now? Can anyone point me to right resource to handle this?
   
  Thanks!
   
  Cheers
   
  -GC

[JDEV] Putting Jabberd in Startup on Linux

[Gunjan Kakani]

Hi all,
 
I just downloaded and successfully configured 
Jabber server for the first time, and it worked great,
 
 
Now, i want to start the Jabberd when my linux 
server boots? How do I put Jabberd on Linux startup? Since, it leaves jabber.pid 
file when closing the server, I have to manually delete it as of now? Can anyone 
point me to right resource to handle this?
 
Thanks!
 
Cheers
 
-GC

[JDEV] Marvin 0.0.6 Released!

[Thomas Parslow (PatRat)]

Version 0.0.6 of Marvin has just been released!

For more information see: 
http://marvin-jabber.sourceforge.net/

Marvin is a Jabber client written in the Euphoria programing language
(for more information on Euphoria take a look at
http://www.rapideuphoria.com/). It is fully skinable so that it's look
and feel can be customized (much like Winamp except the skin format is
a lot more flexible).

Changes for 0.0.6: 
* Hot key support 
* Notification box which appears above system tray to notify user of messages 
(optional) 
* Enhanced history display (date stamps, search etc...) 
* Windows 2000 Alpha Blending transparency support (Windows 2000/XP only) 
* Topmost toggle for Roster window 
* User status changes can be shown in chat 
* Support for "composing" message event (allows you to see when the other person is 
replying) 
* Custom status supported 
* Roster font and back color customizable 
* Status of remote users now shown in message windows 
* Changes to skin format (see skinchanges.txt in the docs directory) 
* Lots and lots of bugs fixed and large internal parts rewritten

As always feedback is very much appreciated :)

Thomas Parslow (PatRat)
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ICQ: 26359483

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