[JDEV] Does Jabber Support SMS ?

2002-06-12 Thread r-a-v-i-v-e-d-a-l-a



HI
    Does JABBER support SMS ? Is 
there any jabber client which sends SMS messages via jabber ?
 
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[JDEV] PTH and cygwin

2002-06-12 Thread Andy Beetz

Why doesn't pth-1.4.0 compile under cygwin?
Just finished a full cygwin install, tried to make pth and fails out with
the same error and warnings as usual.

Anybody know what's going on?

I've also tried downloading 1.4.0 and 1.4.1 from pth's site and building it
independently but it's still a no go.

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Re: [JDEV] Info request

2002-06-12 Thread Dave

The components list wouldn't be intended to become a high-bandwidth list.
The primary reason for its existance is for component developers to
bounce ideas off each other, and if no component developers have ideas
to bounce at any given moment, the list _should_ be relatively dead.
The last thing anybody needs is _another_ high-traffic list :-(

 - Dave


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> the same thing that happened with all the jig mailing lists might
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> 
> On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:26, Dave wrote:
> > Maybe we should setup a mailing list for components?  We already have
> > the jdev list for clients (primarily for client-concerned issues, to
> > be more precise) and the jabberd list for the server.  Why shouldn't we
> > have a list for transports/agents/gateways/components?
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> > > On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 13:29, Nicholas Perez wrote:
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> > > > 
> > > > http://docs.jabber.org/general/html/component-intro.html
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> > > > Andy Beetz wrote:
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RE: [JDEV] Does Jabber Support SMS ?

2002-06-12 Thread Tony Bamonti



I believe this company has developed a 
mobile jabber client/server that supports 
SMShttp://www.antepo.com/
 
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  SMS ?
  HI
      Does JABBER support SMS ? Is 
  there any jabber client which sends SMS messages via jabber ?
   
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Re: [JDEV] Info request

2002-06-12 Thread Dave

I guess a Wiki can provide an interesting alternative to a mailing list.
The only problem I can see is that people can delete each other's data :-(

 - Dave


Justin Kirby wrote:
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> In an attempt to provide a central place to babble about components, I
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> 
> So for all you component experts out there, please help newbies out by
> adding comments/suggestions, battles fought and won or lost, etc...
> 
> On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 13:29, Nicholas Perez wrote:
> > It is very very little, but enough to get you started.
> > 
> > http://docs.jabber.org/general/html/component-intro.html
> > 
> > 
> > Andy Beetz wrote:
> > > Is there any documentation available for writing internal components?
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance
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Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] File transfers

2002-06-12 Thread Dave

What's wrong with using client feature negotiation for that?

Dave Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:

> 
> This ofcourse still leaves the need for better p2p signaling. Best would be ofcourse 
>to 
> combine both of them, letting both clients indicate wich options they have and then 
> choosing the best one together. Maybe some discussion on how this signalling can be 
> done best is a good idea rather then argueing about wether inband is good or bad..
> 

> Our ultimate goal would ofcourse be some sort of implementation for this and a JEP. 

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Re: [JDEV] Problems installing JabberD 1.4.2 on Win2000

2002-06-12 Thread Thomas Muldowney

Use the -H command line option to specify the base directory that
jabberd is running from.

--temas


On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 19:45, JJ wrote:
> Hi,
> I have problems starting Jabber server on my Windows 2000 server.
> I downloaded the .exe file and changed the .xml file to reflect my domain
> name (ns1.inttelco.us).
> Also I created a folder in the same directory where I installed jabberd
> (under "spool"), called ns1.inttelco.us (/spool/ns1.inttelco.us/).
> When I tried to start jabber server I'm getting the following message:
> 
> Unable to access home folder /home/temas/src/jabber-1.4.2: No such file or
> directory
> 20020612T00:43:06: [notice] (-internal): initializing server
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> JJ
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Re: [JDEV] PTH and cygwin

2002-06-12 Thread Thomas Muldowney

What are you errors?  pth 1.4.0 built fine for me.

--temas


On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 05:15, Andy Beetz wrote:
> Why doesn't pth-1.4.0 compile under cygwin?
> Just finished a full cygwin install, tried to make pth and fails out with
> the same error and warnings as usual.
> 
> Anybody know what's going on?
> 
> I've also tried downloading 1.4.0 and 1.4.1 from pth's site and building it
> independently but it's still a no go.
> 
> :(
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Re[4]: [JDEV] File transfers

2002-06-12 Thread Dave

Guys, if you're going to take this offlist, can you please keep me on
the CC list?  This discussion may be wearing out its welcome on the JDEV
list, but that doesn't make me any less interested in finding out about
any interesting ideas you folks have.  If the Jabber community decides
to examine file transfer again at some future point, it'd be very good
to have this discussion lying around in an archive somewhere, so we
don't have to have it all over again then.  (Sadly, most discussions
I've seen go off-list end up disappearing in mid-argument, and a few
months later, they repeat themselves, before being taken off-list again,
only to die again.)

 - Dave


Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
> 
> -- Original Message --
> 
> >I'm not even trying to do file transfers, just trying to keep the Jabber
> >protocols and architecture clean and functional.  I have no horse in this
> >race. :)
> 
> Would clean mean a standard for inband data transfer rather then everyone 
> implementing their own inband data transfer? Would functional mean that it is 
> interoperatable with p2p datatransfers? I think so but everyone has the right to 
> disagree with me ofcourse.. I'll look into SOAP over Jabber..
> 
> It seems there is no real intrest for this on the list though, most are Desktop 
>Instant 
> Messenger oriented perhaps? 
> Or just too busy with others things to mix themselves in this lengthy partially 
>offtopic 
> discussion (that must be it), so this will be the last of it then...
> 
> >Just to clarify, many ISPs, including us, *do not pay* (directly) for bytes
> >between a dialup customer and "the Internet", but DO pay for bytes between
> >their servers and "the Internet".  Therefore, inband data transmission will
> >cost $$$ in the latter case, but not in the former.
> 
> This.. well if you say so I believe you :) I assume this is American market? In the 
> Netherlands most dailup ISPs make their profit by receiving kickback for every 
>minute 
> someone is connected by the telco's. If on top of that their data traffic is free 
>then why 
> are they all collapsing? Or does this simply mean your ISP outsources Dailup acces 
> alltogether and just supplies the services like email, webhosting, support, etc. ?
> Just wondering (I don't think a reply belongs on the list though, email perhaps?)...
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Re: [JDEV] Does Jabber Support SMS ?

2002-06-12 Thread jakub troszok

r-a-v-i-v-e-d-a-l-a wrote:
> Does JABBER support SMS ? Is there any jabber client which sends
> SMS messages via jabber ?
We did it for one of our clients.
For us it was purely server side solution. When somebody disconnects
he can set on server that all the messages that comes to him
will be redirected to sms gateway - and then sent to the
gsm phone. Like this the person could be online all the time.

Of course we could also do the direct sending of sms'es
the problem was that our customer wanted to limit as much
as possible the number of smses sent trough his gateway.

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RE: [JDEV] Problems installing JabberD 1.4.2 on Win2000

2002-06-12 Thread JJ

Tnx,
It worked. So when you start the server you need to keep the MS-DOS prompt
always open in your task bar, or if you close it, it would stop the server?


JJ

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Use the -H command line option to specify the base directory that
jabberd is running from.

--temas


On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 19:45, JJ wrote:
> Hi,
> I have problems starting Jabber server on my Windows 2000 server.
> I downloaded the .exe file and changed the .xml file to reflect my domain
> name (ns1.inttelco.us).
> Also I created a folder in the same directory where I installed jabberd
> (under "spool"), called ns1.inttelco.us (/spool/ns1.inttelco.us/).
> When I tried to start jabber server I'm getting the following message:
>
> Unable to access home folder /home/temas/src/jabber-1.4.2: No such file or
> directory
> 20020612T00:43:06: [notice] (-internal): initializing server
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
> JJ
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[JDEV] Jabber library for Linux

2002-06-12 Thread Richard Clippard
Title: Jabber library for Linux






I have been looking for a library to build a very basic jabber client (console only - not graphical) on a Linux system. I have looked at jecl and jabberoo and am having problems with both. Jecl will not compile (even using ANT) and I cannot find a simple example using jabberoo (or jecl for that matter).

Any ideas?





Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux

2002-06-12 Thread Nicholas Perez

use the perl libs available :) Net::Jabber just had a release and you 
can make a trivial console client in under 50 lines of code. If you want 
to dig a little deeper, use Jabber::Connection and family. Of course if 
you want to be hardcore, use XML::Stream.

Richard Clippard wrote:
> I have been looking for a library to build a very basic jabber client 
> (console only - not graphical) on a Linux system. I have looked at jecl 
> and jabberoo and am having problems with both. Jecl will not compile 
> (even using ANT) and I cannot find a simple example using jabberoo (or 
> jecl for that matter).
> 
> Any ideas?
> 


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Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux

2002-06-12 Thread Matthias Wimmer

Hi Richard!

Richard Clippard schrieb:

> I have been looking for a library to build a very basic jabber client 
> (console only - not graphical) on a Linux system. I have looked at 
> jecl and jabberoo and am having problems with both. Jecl will not 
> compile (even using ANT) and I cannot find a simple example using 
> jabberoo (or jecl for that matter).
>
I havn't looked into the code very much, but maybe you are interested in 
JabberX. This is an already existing text-only Jabber client. It uses 
it's only library (libiksemel) and is written in C.
Project website is at http://jabber-x.sf.net/. I don't think it's 
maintained anymore, but it's working very well, I'm using it from time 
to time.


Tot kijk
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Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux

2002-06-12 Thread Andrew Kornak

Do these libraries support SSL connections? I would like to
try writing a server side CGI client using these libraries.

Andrew Kornak
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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux


> use the perl libs available :) Net::Jabber just had a release and you
> can make a trivial console client in under 50 lines of code. If you want
> to dig a little deeper, use Jabber::Connection and family. Of course if
> you want to be hardcore, use XML::Stream.
>
> Richard Clippard wrote:
> > I have been looking for a library to build a very basic jabber client
> > (console only - not graphical) on a Linux system. I have looked at jecl
> > and jabberoo and am having problems with both. Jecl will not compile
> > (even using ANT) and I cannot find a simple example using jabberoo (or
> > jecl for that matter).
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
>
>
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Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] File transfers

2002-06-12 Thread Richard Dobson

Yup thats fine for the signalling of the supported file transfer methods,
but how is that going to help actually negotiating the actual p2p transfer,
ip address, port, size of file, name of file etc etc.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] File transfers


> What's wrong with using client feature negotiation for that?
>
> Dave Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
>
> >
> > This ofcourse still leaves the need for better p2p signaling. Best would
be ofcourse to
> > combine both of them, letting both clients indicate wich options they
have and then
> > choosing the best one together. Maybe some discussion on how this
signalling can be
> > done best is a good idea rather then argueing about wether inband is
good or bad..
> >
>
> > Our ultimate goal would ofcourse be some sort of implementation for this
and a JEP.
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Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux

2002-06-12 Thread Nicholas Perez

Of course they support SSL... and even if they didnt its trivial in perl 
to replace IO::Socket with IO::Socket::SSL :)

Andrew Kornak wrote:
> Do these libraries support SSL connections? I would like to
> try writing a server side CGI client using these libraries.
> 
> Andrew Kornak
> - Original Message -
> From: "Nicholas Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux
> 
> 
> 
>>use the perl libs available :) Net::Jabber just had a release and you
>>can make a trivial console client in under 50 lines of code. If you want
>>to dig a little deeper, use Jabber::Connection and family. Of course if
>>you want to be hardcore, use XML::Stream.
>>
>>Richard Clippard wrote:
>>
>>>I have been looking for a library to build a very basic jabber client
>>>(console only - not graphical) on a Linux system. I have looked at jecl
>>>and jabberoo and am having problems with both. Jecl will not compile
>>>(even using ANT) and I cannot find a simple example using jabberoo (or
>>>jecl for that matter).
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>>
>>
>>
>>--
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Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux

2002-06-12 Thread Andrew Kornak

Cool. Thanks Nicholas.

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From: "Nicholas Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux


> Of course they support SSL... and even if they didnt its trivial in perl
> to replace IO::Socket with IO::Socket::SSL :)
>
> Andrew Kornak wrote:
> > Do these libraries support SSL connections? I would like to
> > try writing a server side CGI client using these libraries.
> >
> > Andrew Kornak
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Nicholas Perez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber library for Linux
> >
> >
> >
> >>use the perl libs available :) Net::Jabber just had a release and you
> >>can make a trivial console client in under 50 lines of code. If you want
> >>to dig a little deeper, use Jabber::Connection and family. Of course if
> >>you want to be hardcore, use XML::Stream.
> >>
> >>Richard Clippard wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have been looking for a library to build a very basic jabber client
> >>>(console only - not graphical) on a Linux system. I have looked at jecl
> >>>and jabberoo and am having problems with both. Jecl will not compile
> >>>(even using ANT) and I cannot find a simple example using jabberoo (or
> >>>jecl for that matter).
> >>>
> >>>Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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RE: [JDEV] PTH and cygwin

2002-06-12 Thread Andy Beetz

My error is as follows:

$ make
./libtool --mode=compile gcc -c -I. -O2 -pipe pth_debug.c
gcc -c -I. -O2 -pipe pth_debug.c -o pth_debug.o
In file included from pth_p.h.in:53,
 from pth_debug.c:29:
pth.h:53: warning: useless keyword or type name in empty declaration
pth.h:53: warning: empty declaration
In file included from pth_debug.c:29:
pth_sched.c:33: parse error before `__pth_NQ'
pth_sched.c:33: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
pth_sched.c:34: parse error before `__pth_RQ'
pth_sched.c:34: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
pth_sched.c:35: parse error before `__pth_WQ'
pth_sched.c:35: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
pth_sched.c:36: parse error before `__pth_SQ'
pth_sched.c:36: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
pth_sched.c:37: parse error before `__pth_DQ'
pth_sched.c:37: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
pth_debug.c: In function `pth_debug':
pth_debug.c:61: `errno_shield' undeclared (first use in this function)
pth_debug.c:61: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
pth_debug.c:61: for each function it appears in.)
pth_debug.c:61: parse error before `{'
pth_debug.c:75: called object is not a function
pth_debug.c: At top level:
pth_debug.c:77: parse error before `return'
pth_debug.c: In function `pth_dumpstate':
pth_debug.c:90: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
pth_debug.c: At top level:
pth_debug.c:98: parse error before `pth_pqueue_t'
pth_debug.c:99: warning: type mismatch with previous implicit declaration
pth_debug.c:86: warning: previous implicit declaration of `pth_dumpqueue'
pth_debug.c:99: warning: `pth_dumpqueue' was previously implicitly declared
to return `int'
pth_debug.c: In function `pth_dumpqueue':
pth_debug.c:104: `fp' undeclared (first use in this function)
pth_debug.c:104: `qn' undeclared (first use in this function)
pth_debug.c:105: `q' undeclared (first use in this function)
pth_debug.c:109: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a
cast
pth_debug.c:109: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a
cast
pth_debug.c:110: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
make: *** [pth_debug.lo] Error 1

Pth.h line 53 is "typedef int socklen_t;"

I just don't get it, why does it compile for some people and not for others?

Thanks
Andy

> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Muldowney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 12 June 2002 18:17
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JDEV] PTH and cygwin
> 
> 
> What are you errors?  pth 1.4.0 built fine for me.
> 
> --temas
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 05:15, Andy Beetz wrote:
> > Why doesn't pth-1.4.0 compile under cygwin?
> > Just finished a full cygwin install, tried to make pth and 
> fails out 
> > with the same error and warnings as usual.
> > 
> > Anybody know what's going on?
> > 
> > I've also tried downloading 1.4.0 and 1.4.1 from pth's site and 
> > building it independently but it's still a no go.
> > 
> > :(
> > 
> > 
> > 
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