RE: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-30 Thread Simon Guindon

I agree with Matt.  If I was a new developer looking to get into Jabber I
would probably be pointed to jabber.org first, and a lot of whats going on
may not be listed or written about there so I may not be getting the whole
picture.  I think temas is right also, its alright if all kinds of other
sites have the info, but I think its important that jabber.org has a
collection of it all also.

Later,
Simon

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Matt Diez wrote:

> I have to agree with Julian here - the more consolidation that can
> happen (particularly within the jabber.org domain) - the easier it
> is to get a handle on what is actually happening in the client/server/
> components/transports/third-party realm.
>
> I would really appreciate it, and I feel I speak for a decent volume
> of developers.
>
> Matthew D. Diez
> Systems Engineer
> Vedalabs, Inc.
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>

I think that multiple feeds of information is ok, as long as we do
present a clear consolidation of them somewhere.  I know Justin is
working on just this for JabberCentralNews (not the jabber central feed,
rather this exact gathering point).  I'm not sure how far he is, but it
sounds like people are wanting it more and more (myself included).  I'll
prod him next time I talk to him.  Do others have any thoughts about
where/how they would want a consolidated feed?

--temas


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Re: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread temas

Matt Diez wrote:

> I have to agree with Julian here - the more consolidation that can
> happen (particularly within the jabber.org domain) - the easier it
> is to get a handle on what is actually happening in the client/server/
> components/transports/third-party realm.
>
> I would really appreciate it, and I feel I speak for a decent volume
> of developers.
>
> Matthew D. Diez
> Systems Engineer
> Vedalabs, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

I think that multiple feeds of information is ok, as long as we do 
present a clear consolidation of them somewhere.  I know Justin is 
working on just this for JabberCentralNews (not the jabber central feed, 
rather this exact gathering point).  I'm not sure how far he is, but it 
sounds like people are wanting it more and more (myself included).  I'll 
prod him next time I talk to him.  Do others have any thoughts about 
where/how they would want a consolidated feed?

--temas


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RE: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread Matt Diez
Title: RE: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1





I have to agree with Julian here - the more consolidation that can 
happen (particularly within the jabber.org domain) - the easier it
is to get a handle on what is actually happening in the client/server/
components/transports/third-party realm.


I would really appreciate it, and I feel I speak for a decent volume
of developers.


Matthew D. Diez 
Systems Engineer
Vedalabs, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Um... that's not cool. We don't have enough Jabber news in any single place.
We either need to get it all going to dev.jabber.org or jabbercentral or
something. We just need to decide.
We now have:
jabber.com
dev.jabber.org
jabbercentral
Jabber Weekly News
JabNews
various client news sites (including my own)


Anywhere else?


I say that dev.jabber.org should have it all consolidated... then the
individual sites can decide what they want to focus on.


Julian


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> JabNews == http://jabnews.manilasites.com (though the URL might change at
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Re: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread Rahul Dave

Well Jabber weekly news is not so much a site but a newletter. An example
submission would be for lwn.net's development page. But I agree, its html
view and RSS feed ought to be, or be findable from one central place.
Rahul
I got this from you:
> 
> Um... that's not cool. We don't have enough Jabber news in any single place.
> We either need to get it all going to dev.jabber.org or jabbercentral or
> something. We just need to decide.
> We now have:
> jabber.com
> dev.jabber.org
> jabbercentral
> Jabber Weekly News
> JabNews
> various client news sites (including my own)
> 
> Anywhere else?
> 
> I say that dev.jabber.org should have it all consolidated... then the
> individual sites can decide what they want to focus on.
> 
> Julian
> 
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> > JabNews == http://jabnews.manilasites.com (though the URL might change at
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Re: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread Julian Missig

Um... that's not cool. We don't have enough Jabber news in any single place.
We either need to get it all going to dev.jabber.org or jabbercentral or
something. We just need to decide.
We now have:
jabber.com
dev.jabber.org
jabbercentral
Jabber Weekly News
JabNews
various client news sites (including my own)

Anywhere else?

I say that dev.jabber.org should have it all consolidated... then the
individual sites can decide what they want to focus on.

Julian

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Re: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread Rahul Dave

dj,
I'll update with a clearer description of Jabber::RPC and 
Jabber::RPC::HTTPgate.

I agree, jabnews is a good place to put this...
Rahul
I got this from you:
> 
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:35:03PM -0400, Rahul Dave wrote:
> > Here's Jabber Weekly News Issue 1. Please complain, correct, update. I will
> > send it out to news sources and create a RSS channel for it after the
> > meeting today, presuming we are having one, are we?
> > Rahul
> 
> Nice one, Rahul
> 
> [...]
> > 
> > DJ Adams announced the Jabber HTTP Gateway 
> > (http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/httpgate/httpgate.html) which builds on
> > the Jabber-RPC Spec. This spec can be found in the Jabber RPC folder of the new
> > jabnews site: http://jabnews.manilasites.com/directory/20.
> > 
> 
> There are actually two things related to Jabber-RPC:
> 
> - Jabber::RPC
> 
>   this is an implementation of the Jabber-RPC formalisation, in 
>   Perl, that provides client and server stubs with which you can
>   write Jabber-RPC requesters (in the form of Jabber clients) and
>   Jabber-RPC responders (in the form of Jabber clients or Jabber
>   components).
> 
>   http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/
> 
> 
> - Jabber::RPC::HTTPgate
> 
>   this is a separately installable module that complements Jabber::RPC
>   and provides a two-way gateway between the Jabber-based and HTTP-based
>   XML-RPC worlds. It allows Jabber-based requesters (i.e. Jabber-RPC
>   clients) to call HTTP-based responders (i.e. 'traditional' XML-RPC
>   web-server-based servers), and HTTP-based requesters (i.e. 
>   'traditional' XML-RPC clients) to call Jabber-based responders (i.e.
>   Jabber-RPC servers).
> 
>   http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/httpgate/
> 
> 
> I think that JabNews is becoming the 'public view' of Jabber activity -
> maybe it's worth having a quick word with Dizzyd about content coordination?
> 
> dj
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Re: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread stpeter

JabNews == http://jabnews.manilasites.com (though the URL might change at some point)
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Re: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread DJ Adams

On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:35:03PM -0400, Rahul Dave wrote:
> Here's Jabber Weekly News Issue 1. Please complain, correct, update. I will
> send it out to news sources and create a RSS channel for it after the
> meeting today, presuming we are having one, are we?
> Rahul

Nice one, Rahul

[...]
> 
> DJ Adams announced the Jabber HTTP Gateway 
> (http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/httpgate/httpgate.html) which builds on
> the Jabber-RPC Spec. This spec can be found in the Jabber RPC folder of the new
> jabnews site: http://jabnews.manilasites.com/directory/20.
> 

There are actually two things related to Jabber-RPC:

- Jabber::RPC

  this is an implementation of the Jabber-RPC formalisation, in 
  Perl, that provides client and server stubs with which you can
  write Jabber-RPC requesters (in the form of Jabber clients) and
  Jabber-RPC responders (in the form of Jabber clients or Jabber
  components).

  http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/


- Jabber::RPC::HTTPgate

  this is a separately installable module that complements Jabber::RPC
  and provides a two-way gateway between the Jabber-based and HTTP-based
  XML-RPC worlds. It allows Jabber-based requesters (i.e. Jabber-RPC
  clients) to call HTTP-based responders (i.e. 'traditional' XML-RPC
  web-server-based servers), and HTTP-based requesters (i.e. 
  'traditional' XML-RPC clients) to call Jabber-based responders (i.e.
  Jabber-RPC servers).

  http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/httpgate/


I think that JabNews is becoming the 'public view' of Jabber activity -
maybe it's worth having a quick word with Dizzyd about content coordination?

dj

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Re: [JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread Al Sutton

Rahul,

When you have the RSS channel set up let me know and I'll add it to the 
personalbuddy.com watcher system.

Al.

At 13:35 29/08/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Here's Jabber Weekly News Issue 1. Please complain, correct, update. I will
>send it out to news sources and create a RSS channel for it after the
>meeting today, presuming we are having one, are we?
>Rahul
>
>
>Jabber Weekly News for 29th August, 2001
>
>
>Hi,
>This is the first of a weekly newsletter designed to let the world know the
>interesting stuff thats happening in the Jabber Community. This newsletter
>will soon be available as a RSS channel, please stay tuned. We will also 
>point to
>RSS channels of individual projects and JIG's(Jabber interest groups).
>Corrections, more information, etc can be sent to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>If there is interest I can add a section on news about clients, and another
>one for the efforts of commercial companies. So please send me feedback!
>Rahul
>
>Latest Jabber News
>---
>
>The Jabber Software Foundation has been formally incorporated. See
>http://foundation.jabber.org for details.
>
>JabberCon was a big success, with many nice presentations
>(http://www.jabbercon.com/schedule.html), and an on the fly
>collaboration between the jabber team and independent developer Dave Winer on
>connecting blogs to jabber using the Blogger API. There is a writeup on the
>convention at http://www.jabber.org/?oid=2001.
>
>DJ Adams announced the Jabber HTTP Gateway
>(http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/httpgate/httpgate.html) which builds on
>the Jabber-RPC Spec. This spec can be found in the Jabber RPC folder of 
>the new
>jabnews site: http://jabnews.manilasites.com/directory/20.
>
>On the blog front again, Jogger, a jabber powered blog was announced.
>You can find out more at http://jogger.jabber.org.
>
>The Muse project has a communications API which interfaces to different 
>communications
>systems. It has modules for Napster, Gnutella, and Jabber. You can find 
>out more at:
>http://www.echomine.org/projects/muse/.
>
>Jabber RSS
>--
>The GNOME Jabber client, Gabber, has an RSS Feed at
>http://gabber.sourceforge.net/gabber.rss.
>
>The Standards JIG has an RSS feed at
>http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/sc-jig/sc-jig.rss
>
>By prepending http://www.pipetree.com/rss? to the above URL's you can get a
>html'ization of the feed:
>http://www.pipetree.com/rss?http://gabber.sourceforge.net/gabber.rss
>http://www.pipetree.com/rss?http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/sc-jig/sc-jig.rss.
>
>
>Jabber Links
>
>
>The home of the Jabber project is at http://www.jabber.org.
>
>The Jabber Software Foundation, which co-ordinates activities pertaining
>to the community code-base is at http://foundation.jabber.org.
>
>A large listing of jabber clients can be found at 
>http://www.jabbercentral.com.
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[JDEV] Jabber Weekly News, Issue 1

2001-08-29 Thread Rahul Dave

Here's Jabber Weekly News Issue 1. Please complain, correct, update. I will
send it out to news sources and create a RSS channel for it after the
meeting today, presuming we are having one, are we?
Rahul


Jabber Weekly News for 29th August, 2001


Hi,
This is the first of a weekly newsletter designed to let the world know the 
interesting stuff thats happening in the Jabber Community. This newsletter
will soon be available as a RSS channel, please stay tuned. We will also point to
RSS channels of individual projects and JIG's(Jabber interest groups).
Corrections, more information, etc can be sent to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If there is interest I can add a section on news about clients, and another
one for the efforts of commercial companies. So please send me feedback!
Rahul

Latest Jabber News
---

The Jabber Software Foundation has been formally incorporated. See
http://foundation.jabber.org for details.

JabberCon was a big success, with many nice presentations 
(http://www.jabbercon.com/schedule.html), and an on the fly
collaboration between the jabber team and independent developer Dave Winer on 
connecting blogs to jabber using the Blogger API. There is a writeup on the 
convention at http://www.jabber.org/?oid=2001.

DJ Adams announced the Jabber HTTP Gateway 
(http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/jrpc/httpgate/httpgate.html) which builds on
the Jabber-RPC Spec. This spec can be found in the Jabber RPC folder of the new
jabnews site: http://jabnews.manilasites.com/directory/20.

On the blog front again, Jogger, a jabber powered blog was announced. 
You can find out more at http://jogger.jabber.org.

The Muse project has a communications API which interfaces to different communications
systems. It has modules for Napster, Gnutella, and Jabber. You can find out more at:
http://www.echomine.org/projects/muse/.

Jabber RSS
--
The GNOME Jabber client, Gabber, has an RSS Feed at 
http://gabber.sourceforge.net/gabber.rss.

The Standards JIG has an RSS feed at 
http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/sc-jig/sc-jig.rss

By prepending http://www.pipetree.com/rss? to the above URL's you can get a 
html'ization of the feed:
http://www.pipetree.com/rss?http://gabber.sourceforge.net/gabber.rss
http://www.pipetree.com/rss?http://www.pipetree.com/jabber/sc-jig/sc-jig.rss.


Jabber Links


The home of the Jabber project is at http://www.jabber.org.

The Jabber Software Foundation, which co-ordinates activities pertaining
to the community code-base is at http://foundation.jabber.org.

A large listing of jabber clients can be found at http://www.jabbercentral.com.
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