Re: [jdev] AIM and Yahoo now open?
В сообщении от Понедельник 11 Декабрь 2006 10:53 Norman Rasmussen написал(a): On 12/9/06, JD Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody knows if it is equal to just 'any IP' and as a consequence - can't we have now native xmpp transports to these two networks? Legally, who knows. I'm sure IBM has a contract in place with AOL... My guess is that Sametime is going to be using the official AOL Yahoo IM SDK's to talk to their networks. Based on the sametimefuture link that Oleg posted, 'standards-based' is _only_ mentioned for Google Talk integration. Huh? They mentioned SIP/SIMPLE too. AFAIK - GTalk do not uses it. Can it be that they convert, say, Yahoo - SIMPLE - sametime locally? honestly I see no point in doing two conversions on same box. So it seemed more natural for me that, say, Yahoo provide SIP/SIMPLE interface and IBM uses it. Yahoo is already integrated with MSN. So they have to have some sort of internal protocol. That may be just the same interface that is used for sametime. -- Respectfully Alexey Nezhdanov
Re: [jdev] AIM and Yahoo now open?
On 12/9/06, JD Conley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody knows if it is equal to just 'any IP' and as a consequence - can't we have now native xmpp transports to these two networks? Legally, who knows. I'm sure IBM has a contract in place with AOL... My guess is that Sametime is going to be using the official AOL Yahoo IM SDK's to talk to their networks. Based on the sametimefuture link that Oleg posted, 'standards-based' is _only_ mentioned for Google Talk integration. -- - Norman Rasmussen - Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Home page: http://norman.rasmussen.co.za/
RE: [jdev] AIM and Yahoo now open?
Anybody knows if it is equal to just 'any IP' and as a consequence - can't we have now native xmpp transports to these two networks? Legally, who knows. I'm sure IBM has a contract in place with AOL... -JD
Re: [jdev] AIM and Yahoo now open?
On 12/9/06, Alexey Nezhdanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/20728.wss is said that lotus sametime is now can interoperate with GTalk, AIM and Yahoo using XMPP and SIMPLE protocols. If I understand situation correctly - then it mean that AOL and Yahoo should open access for any IP that runs lotus. Anybody knows if it is equal to just 'any IP' and as a consequence - can't we have now native xmpp transports to these two networks? I think somebody has to sniff traffic of lotus sametime interoperation to answer this question. -- Regards, Oleg
Re: [jdev] AIM and Yahoo now open?
On 12/9/06, Alexey Nezhdanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here: http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/20728.wss is said that lotus sametime is now can interoperate with GTalk, AIM and Yahoo using XMPP and SIMPLE protocols. If I understand situation correctly - then it mean that AOL and Yahoo should open access for any IP that runs lotus. Anybody knows if it is equal to just 'any IP' and as a consequence - can't we have now native xmpp transports to these two networks? -- Respectfully Alexey Nezhdanov http://www-142.ibm.com/software/sw-lotus/products/product3.nsf/wdocs/sametimefuture Public IM Connectivity IBM announced that it is working with leaders in the public instant messaging market to help Lotus Sametime users connect with public instant messaging communities. IBM will be enabling this connectivity through a new SIP-based Real-Time Collaboration Gateway that is currently planned to be available later this year. IBM is embedding this capability in Lotus Sametime, without additional charge to customers. [image: AOL logo]IBM and AOL have entered into an agreement to enable Lotus Sametime users to connect with users of AOL(r), AIM(r), ICQ(r) and Apple(r) iChat™ instant messaging services. In addition, Lotus Sametime 7.5customers will have access to AOL's AIM(r) Clearinghouse service, which will make it easy to connect with other enterprise instant messaging users . [image: Yahoo logo]IBM and Yahoo! are furthering industry interoperability by joining the Yahoo!(r) Messenger and IBM Lotus Sametime IM communities. By entering into an agreement to allow Lotus Sametime 7.5 users to connect with Yahoo! Messenger users, IBM and Yahoo! have demonstrated their shared commitment to provide IM interoperability while keeping security and reliability top of mind. Interoperability will be based on the SIP / SIMPLE industry standard protocol and will establish a server-to-server connection, requiring only one log-in ID. [image: Google logo]Building on their existing relationship, IBM and Google intend to enable standards-based interoperability between the IBM Lotus Sametime enterprise IM community and the Google Talk public IM network. This broad, out-of-the-box connectivity with the industry's leading consumer IM providers extends the business benefits of Lotus Sametime and gives IBM customers a security-rich way to collaborate with millions of public instant messaging users worldwide. -- Regards, Oleg
