RE: Jetspeed release schedule - ?

[Setera, Craig]

David (and everyone else),

Please don't misunderstand... I am not trying to put pressure on any of the
development community.  I very much appreciate what has been done on
jetspeed already.  I personally wish that I had more time to better
understand jetspeed and contribute more to the development.  I just thought
I would try to get a feel for when people felt things would be settling down
a bit.  It sounds like things may settle enough by the end of the month for
me to make the jump to the new code (via CVS).

Thanks again,
Craig

-Original Message-
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 1:17 PM
To: 'Jetspeed Developers List'
Subject: RE: Jetspeed release schedule - ?


> How on track do you feel Jetspeed is to make "beta" by the 
> end of April as you originally suggested in this note?  Is it close?  

It will slip, it always does.
Problem is that the release schedule for Jetspeed isn't anyone's main
release schedule.
We are working on other 'daytime' project schedules which take
precedence.

Im pretty much done with new features myself, but there should be
another state manager proposal coming along soon. Im hoping to start
fixing bugs by the end of this week, so then its just a matter of
cleaning it up to the point where we can agree that the release is beta
ready. 

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RE: Jetspeed release schedule - ?

[David Sean Taylor]

> How on track do you feel Jetspeed is to make "beta" by the 
> end of April as you originally suggested in this note?  Is it close?  

It will slip, it always does.
Problem is that the release schedule for Jetspeed isn't anyone's main
release schedule.
We are working on other 'daytime' project schedules which take
precedence.

Im pretty much done with new features myself, but there should be
another state manager proposal coming along soon. Im hoping to start
fixing bugs by the end of this week, so then its just a matter of
cleaning it up to the point where we can agree that the release is beta
ready. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Setera, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:20 AM
> To: 'Jetspeed Developers List'
> Subject: RE: Jetspeed release schedule - ?
> 
> 
> David,
> 
> How on track do you feel Jetspeed is to make "beta" by the 
> end of April as you originally suggested in this note?  Is it close?  
> 
> I've followed the large amount of changes that have gone on 
> since 1.3a2.  We would definitely benefit from these changes. 
>  I have a couple of portlets that I'm 99% sure will be broken 
> by the changes, so I'm trying to figure out when the "right" 
> time will be to port them over. 
> 
> When do folks on the list foresee the changes slowing down to 
> mostly bug fixes?
> 
> Thanks,
> Craig
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:42 AM
> To: 'Jetspeed Developers List'
> Subject: RE: Jetspeed release schedule - ?
> 
> 
> Well I disagree.
> We are in the middle of adding some much needed features such 
> as portlet instance ids and proper state manager. I will be 
> making additional features to the registry and psml over the 
> next week. We also have quite a few bugs in Bugzilla. All the 
> bugs should be fixed before the next release, esp. the 
> problems with the customizer and Tomcat 4.03/JDK 1.4. 
> 
> Other refactoring work over the next week:
> - PortletConfig
> - PersistenceManager 
> 
> Some missing features that should go in, off the top of my head:
> 
> - full support for non-default PSML pages
>   - customize those pages - needs to be a list of 
> customizable PSML pages 
>   - admin should be able to customize anon page
> 
> - A Portlet StateManager based on PEIDs (there's an upcoming 
> proposal on
> this...)
>   - Framework or guidelines for handling form post 
> parameters with portlets
> 
> Please feel free to add to this list...
> 
> I think we can do without a new security model for the next 
> release. Its just too much work and very hard to find agreement.
> 
> IMO  the next release should be beta, roughly in one month or so 
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RE: Jetspeed release schedule - ?

[Setera, Craig]

David,

How on track do you feel Jetspeed is to make "beta" by the end of April as
you originally suggested in this note?  Is it close?  

I've followed the large amount of changes that have gone on since 1.3a2.  We
would definitely benefit from these changes.  I have a couple of portlets
that I'm 99% sure will be broken by the changes, so I'm trying to figure out
when the "right" time will be to port them over. 

When do folks on the list foresee the changes slowing down to mostly bug
fixes?

Thanks,
Craig

-Original Message-
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 10:42 AM
To: 'Jetspeed Developers List'
Subject: RE: Jetspeed release schedule - ?


Well I disagree.
We are in the middle of adding some much needed features such as portlet
instance ids and proper state manager.
I will be making additional features to the registry and psml over the
next week.
We also have quite a few bugs in Bugzilla. All the bugs should be fixed
before the next release, esp. the problems with the customizer and
Tomcat 4.03/JDK 1.4. 

Other refactoring work over the next week:
- PortletConfig
- PersistenceManager 

Some missing features that should go in, off the top of my head:

- full support for non-default PSML pages
- customize those pages - needs to be a list of customizable
PSML pages 
- admin should be able to customize anon page

- A Portlet StateManager based on PEIDs (there's an upcoming proposal on
this...)
- Framework or guidelines for handling form post parameters with
portlets

Please feel free to add to this list...

I think we can do without a new security model for the next release. Its
just too much work and very hard to find agreement.

IMO  the next release should be beta, roughly in one month or so 

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Re: Jetspeed release schedule - ?

[Todd Kuebler]

I share this _particular_ sentiment of yours, don't know about the others.  ;)

+1 for what it's worth.

-tk


At 07:55 PM 3/23/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>I am curious about the release schedule of Jetspeed.  Is there an
>established timetable?
>
>There have been many bug fixes and a couple of new features since the
>latest release - 1.3a2.  I'd sure like to see a new "stable" release.
>
>Does anyone share my sentiments?
>
>
>
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RE: Jetspeed release schedule - ?

[David Sean Taylor]

Im going to be working on several new features over the next month or
so.
I'd like to see a beta go out next, contingent on us fixing all the bugs
in bugzilla.


> -Original Message-
> From: David G. Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:56 PM
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> Subject: Jetspeed release schedule - ?
> 
> 
> I am curious about the release schedule of Jetspeed.  Is there an 
> established timetable?
> 
> There have been many bug fixes and a couple of new features since the 
> latest release - 1.3a2.  I'd sure like to see a new "stable" release.
> 
> Does anyone share my sentiments?
> 
> 
> 
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Jetspeed release schedule - ?

[David G. Powers]

I am curious about the release schedule of Jetspeed.  Is there an 
established timetable?

There have been many bug fixes and a couple of new features since the 
latest release - 1.3a2.  I'd sure like to see a new "stable" release.

Does anyone share my sentiments?



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RE: AW: Release Schedule?

[David Sean Taylor]

Andreas,

> Well, I would say - no it isn't worth to release it without
> these updates :) (It shall also be stable by adding these changes!)

Yes I agree, the release should have the WML features that you ar working.

If you can't access cvs, you can always e-mail your changes to any jetspeed
committer, and we'd be glad to check it in for you.

David


> -Original Message-
> From: ICM S Op Guest 5 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 6:46 AM
> To: Jetspeed Developers List
> Subject: RE: AW: Release Schedule?
>
>
> Well, I would say - no it isn't worth to release it without
> these updates :) (It shall also be stable by adding these changes!)
>
> BUT - my Internet connection at home (no firewall/proxy) is
> gone and the telco company wasn't able to fix it right now.
> So hopefully I can contact cvs this night. But if it is very
> urgent I would say create the 1.3a2.
>
> Andreas
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 23:49
> To: Jetspeed Developers List
> Subject: Re: AW: Release Schedule?
>
>
> Andreas,
>
> Is it worth releasing 1.3a2 before applying you updates?  Jetspeed is
> currently stable and we know how it is working ;)
>
> Their is some work I need to do relative to caching in the
> WebPagePortlet, but I am waiting for the release before starting any
> work, i.e. I do not want to break Jetspeed right before a release.
>
> Paul Spencer
>
> Andreas Kempf wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need at least this week to finish my updates for the cvs.
> > So I hope the next release could wait until next week.
> >
> > It would also be fine if group-role-permissions are working
> in jetspeed.
> > Whether it's included or not I have to take care about it
> and find a fast
> > solution for our demo server.
> >
> > Andreas
> >
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RE: AW: Release Schedule?

[ICM S Op Guest 5]

Well, I would say - no it isn't worth to release it without these updates :) (It shall 
also be stable by adding these changes!)

BUT - my Internet connection at home (no firewall/proxy) is gone and the telco company 
wasn't able to fix it right now. So hopefully I can contact cvs this night. But if it 
is very urgent I would say create the 1.3a2.

Andreas



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From: Paul Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 23:49
To: Jetspeed Developers List
Subject: Re: AW: Release Schedule?


Andreas,

Is it worth releasing 1.3a2 before applying you updates?  Jetspeed is 
currently stable and we know how it is working ;)

Their is some work I need to do relative to caching in the 
WebPagePortlet, but I am waiting for the release before starting any 
work, i.e. I do not want to break Jetspeed right before a release.

Paul Spencer

Andreas Kempf wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I need at least this week to finish my updates for the cvs.
> So I hope the next release could wait until next week.
> 
> It would also be fine if group-role-permissions are working in jetspeed.
> Whether it's included or not I have to take care about it and find a fast
> solution for our demo server.
> 
> Andreas
> 
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Re: AW: Release Schedule?

[Paul Spencer]

Andreas,

Is it worth releasing 1.3a2 before applying you updates?  Jetspeed is 
currently stable and we know how it is working ;)

Their is some work I need to do relative to caching in the 
WebPagePortlet, but I am waiting for the release before starting any 
work, i.e. I do not want to break Jetspeed right before a release.

Paul Spencer

Andreas Kempf wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I need at least this week to finish my updates for the cvs.
> So I hope the next release could wait until next week.
> 
> It would also be fine if group-role-permissions are working in jetspeed.
> Whether it's included or not I have to take care about it and find a fast
> solution for our demo server.
> 
> Andreas
> 
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AW: Release Schedule?

[Andreas Kempf]

I had problems connecting to the apache cvs from our company (because
firewall and proxy settings). So I will try it from my home office...



-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: David Sean Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 18:12
An: Jetspeed Developers List
Betreff: Re: Release Schedule?



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From: "Andreas Kempf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jetspeed Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:51 PM
Subject: AW: Release Schedule?


> Hi,
>
> I need at least this week to finish my updates for the cvs.
> So I hope the next release could wait until next week.
>

Do you have anything you can commit now?
I try to merge back into the cvs head as often as possible to avoid
conflicts, and not to overwhelm the other developers with more than a week
or two of development.
Since we don't have any unit tests in place, things can break and we won't
even know about it.

> It would also be fine if group-role-permissions are working in jetspeed.
> Whether it's included or not I have to take care about it and find a fast
> solution for our demo server.
>

Could you explain in a little more detail, what you mean be
'group-role-permissions ..working' ?


> Andreas
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Re: Release Schedule?

[David Sean Taylor]

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 8:51 PM
Subject: AW: Release Schedule?


> Hi,
>
> I need at least this week to finish my updates for the cvs.
> So I hope the next release could wait until next week.
>

Do you have anything you can commit now?
I try to merge back into the cvs head as often as possible to avoid
conflicts, and not to overwhelm the other developers with more than a week
or two of development.
Since we don't have any unit tests in place, things can break and we won't
even know about it.

> It would also be fine if group-role-permissions are working in jetspeed.
> Whether it's included or not I have to take care about it and find a fast
> solution for our demo server.
>

Could you explain in a little more detail, what you mean be
'group-role-permissions ..working' ?


> Andreas
>
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AW: Release Schedule?

[Andreas Kempf]

Hi,

I need at least this week to finish my updates for the cvs.
So I hope the next release could wait until next week.

It would also be fine if group-role-permissions are working in jetspeed.
Whether it's included or not I have to take care about it and find a fast
solution for our demo server.

Andreas


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Re: Release Schedule?

[David Sean Taylor]

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From: "Setera, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 6:44 AM
Subject: Release Schedule?


> Hello,
>
> My company is considering using Jetspeed for a number of projects.  What
I'm
> seeing in the 1.3a2 nightly snapshots looks excellent and I believe that
> Jetspeed will meet our needs.  I see that there is now a plan to release
the
> 1.3a2 level of code.  I'm wondering if anyone has a feel when Jetspeed
might
> go to beta release and/or full release?  I understand that this is an open
> source project and that a schedule may or may not exist.  I guess the
> question is what is the "gut feel" of the development team?
>

I don't have a good feel for when it the next release will come out.
It could happen very quickly, or take a long time like 1.3a2 has done.
It all depends on the committers and how much time they give to the project.






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Release Schedule?

[Setera, Craig]

Hello,

My company is considering using Jetspeed for a number of projects.  What I'm
seeing in the 1.3a2 nightly snapshots looks excellent and I believe that
Jetspeed will meet our needs.  I see that there is now a plan to release the
1.3a2 level of code.  I'm wondering if anyone has a feel when Jetspeed might
go to beta release and/or full release?  I understand that this is an open
source project and that a schedule may or may not exist.  I guess the
question is what is the "gut feel" of the development team?

The other thing I understand about open source is the need to give back to
the community.  I would like to think that we will be able to contribute to
the development of Jetspeed.  Admittedly, I am a long way from understanding
enough to make such contributions, but hopefully over time I will develop
enough knowledge to provide some sort of contributions.  I have begun
digging through the source code and playing with things.  Any pointers to
design documentation that might exist would be very helpful as I learn all I
can about Jetspeed.

Any thoughts that people might have would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Craig

Craig Setera
Sun Certified Java Programmer/Developer/Web Component Developer
Senior Software Architect, Kingland Systems Corporation

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