RE: Refreshing a psml reference
I am looking into the getDocument method in the PsmlManagerService. The refresh method call getDocument() with the getCached set to false. I believe the tricky part is when and where to do refresh. When using a reference, the psml manager doesn't know if the referenced psml is changed or not. I am still digging and hopefully will find a good resolution. This happened in a user by user basis because one user has psml cached but the other one doesn't. Andy -Original Message- From: Dan Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 2:05 PM To: Jetspeed Users List Subject: RE: Refreshing a psml reference I'd think bypassing the cache would be a bad thing in the future. You might want to look at the 'refresh' method on the PSMLManager service interface: http://portals.apache.org/jetspeed-1/apidocs/org/apache/jetspeed/services/ps mlmanager/PsmlManagerService.html#refresh(org.apache.jetspeed.om.profile.Pro fileLocator) I'd dig into that class to gain a better understanding of how caching of psml documents actually happens. What you're experiencing implies that it happens on a user by user basis, which does not make a whole lot of sense to me, at least for group and role based psml documents. Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > After a little more research, we discovered one more way to get > around this > issue. There is a setting in JetspeedResource.properties file, > services.PsmlManager.cacheSize. It is default to 100, meaning maximum > 100 > psml pages will be cached. We change that to 0 and it fixed this psml > reference refresh issue. > Is this change recommended? It is obviously for a performance reason > (probably save time on File I/O). With only limited users(<500)using > the > site now, we didn't notice a obvious impact. However, we will have > more > users in the future and the psml cache will be a good thing to have. > Without > turning it off, is there a setting to control the expiration of the > psml > cache? > Andy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Refreshing a psml reference > > > We just implemented a Jetspeed 1.5 portal site with tomcat 4.1.18. > The psml > reference is used so that different users can share a group or role > psml > file. When we make a change to the group psml (e.g. adding a portlet > to the > page), the users who have previously login to the site won't see the > change > if they login again (even after a while). However, if the user login > as the > first time, they could see the change. Of course, the change will be > visible > to everyone after bouncing the tomcat. The sequence is like this. > -login as user1 then logout > -change the group psml that is referenced by user1's psml > -login as user2 to verify the referenced psml is changed. > -if yes from pervious step, login as user1 > -too bad, the user1 still don't see the change. > It seems that there is caching happened for user1. However we are not > sure > which setting could affect this. We also waited overnight expecting > the > cache will expire. That did not happen either. > Has anyone actively using reference? Any experience with this issue? > Thanks! > Andy > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Refreshing a psml reference
I'd think bypassing the cache would be a bad thing in the future. You might want to look at the 'refresh' method on the PSMLManager service interface: http://portals.apache.org/jetspeed-1/apidocs/org/apache/jetspeed/services/psmlmanager/PsmlManagerService.html#refresh(org.apache.jetspeed.om.profile.ProfileLocator) I'd dig into that class to gain a better understanding of how caching of psml documents actually happens. What you're experiencing implies that it happens on a user by user basis, which does not make a whole lot of sense to me, at least for group and role based psml documents. Dan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > After a little more research, we discovered one more way to get > around this > issue. There is a setting in JetspeedResource.properties file, > services.PsmlManager.cacheSize. It is default to 100, meaning maximum > 100 > psml pages will be cached. We change that to 0 and it fixed this psml > reference refresh issue. > Is this change recommended? It is obviously for a performance reason > (probably save time on File I/O). With only limited users(<500)using > the > site now, we didn't notice a obvious impact. However, we will have > more > users in the future and the psml cache will be a good thing to have. > Without > turning it off, is there a setting to control the expiration of the > psml > cache? > Andy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:05 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Refreshing a psml reference > > > We just implemented a Jetspeed 1.5 portal site with tomcat 4.1.18. > The psml > reference is used so that different users can share a group or role > psml > file. When we make a change to the group psml (e.g. adding a portlet > to the > page), the users who have previously login to the site won't see the > change > if they login again (even after a while). However, if the user login > as the > first time, they could see the change. Of course, the change will be > visible > to everyone after bouncing the tomcat. The sequence is like this. > -login as user1 then logout > -change the group psml that is referenced by user1's psml > -login as user2 to verify the referenced psml is changed. > -if yes from pervious step, login as user1 > -too bad, the user1 still don't see the change. > It seems that there is caching happened for user1. However we are not > sure > which setting could affect this. We also waited overnight expecting > the > cache will expire. That did not happen either. > Has anyone actively using reference? Any experience with this issue? > Thanks! > Andy > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Refreshing a psml reference
After a little more research, we discovered one more way to get around this issue. There is a setting in JetspeedResource.properties file, services.PsmlManager.cacheSize. It is default to 100, meaning maximum 100 psml pages will be cached. We change that to 0 and it fixed this psml reference refresh issue. Is this change recommended? It is obviously for a performance reason (probably save time on File I/O). With only limited users(<500)using the site now, we didn't notice a obvious impact. However, we will have more users in the future and the psml cache will be a good thing to have. Without turning it off, is there a setting to control the expiration of the psml cache? Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Refreshing a psml reference We just implemented a Jetspeed 1.5 portal site with tomcat 4.1.18. The psml reference is used so that different users can share a group or role psml file. When we make a change to the group psml (e.g. adding a portlet to the page), the users who have previously login to the site won't see the change if they login again (even after a while). However, if the user login as the first time, they could see the change. Of course, the change will be visible to everyone after bouncing the tomcat. The sequence is like this. -login as user1 then logout -change the group psml that is referenced by user1's psml -login as user2 to verify the referenced psml is changed. -if yes from pervious step, login as user1 -too bad, the user1 still don't see the change. It seems that there is caching happened for user1. However we are not sure which setting could affect this. We also waited overnight expecting the cache will expire. That did not happen either. Has anyone actively using reference? Any experience with this issue? Thanks! Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Refreshing a psml reference
We just implemented a Jetspeed 1.5 portal site with tomcat 4.1.18. The psml reference is used so that different users can share a group or role psml file. When we make a change to the group psml (e.g. adding a portlet to the page), the users who have previously login to the site won't see the change if they login again (even after a while). However, if the user login as the first time, they could see the change. Of course, the change will be visible to everyone after bouncing the tomcat. The sequence is like this. -login as user1 then logout -change the group psml that is referenced by user1's psml -login as user2 to verify the referenced psml is changed. -if yes from pervious step, login as user1 -too bad, the user1 still don't see the change. It seems that there is caching happened for user1. However we are not sure which setting could affect this. We also waited overnight expecting the cache will expire. That did not happen either. Has anyone actively using reference? Any experience with this issue? Thanks! Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
