RE: Hi All, What to do in the beginning

2001-06-15 Thread Soumyab

How you all doing? I have pinpointed my requirements for now with Jmeter. I
gotto test Java applications(lets for now say its not an web app). For
example suppose a Java app is having n number of objects. How, by using
Jmeter I can understand which object is creating the bottleneck in the
entire app?
 
If somebody is giving me a testscript, pls. briefly explain how to connect
that with Jmeter and run. As I told earlier I am not very good in J2EE
technologies.I dont know XML. I will learn the relevant parts for testing
Jmeter.

Thanks and looking forward to hear.

Soumya Bhattacharyya




-Original Message-
From: Mike Stover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hi All, What to do in the beginning


On Tuesday 12 June 2001 14:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have been assigned to learn and use Jmeter for my corporation. Ultimate
> requirement is to test JMS framework as is the web services framework. I
am
> basically a TOOL developer who knows Java but is not very thourough in
J2EE
> stuff(just learning).
>
> I have gone thru the info that was available on the net about Jmeter. Its
> theoritically fine, but I think I need more info to start taking the first
> steps. For eg. I would like to do the following first :
>
> 1. Test a database

Ok, JMeter supports JDBC, but it's currently broken.  I haven't looked into 
the problem as I have no use for such database testing, but I would be glad 
to point you in the right direction.   Here, for example is a testscript
that 
demostrates how you would setup jmeter to test a database (you'll have to
sub 
in appropriate values - but load it first and change the values in JMeter):










root
192.168.1.1
mysql
org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver
root



1000
10



Sql Query
select * from tablename


Sql Query
select column1,column2 from table2 where 
column1='foo'























When this gets run, I think an error occurs (people out there have reported 
errors, I don't know if they've fixed them or not).

> 2. Test a java object

Not supported, but you could fairly easily write your own controllers to do 
it.  The tricky part comes in when you decide you want to write as few
custom 
controllers as possible to test as many different and varied objects as 
possible. 

> 3. Test a Servlet

As in HTTP testing?  JMeter does this pretty well.  Again, I could send you
a 
script to get you started.  Let me know if that's necessary.

>
> I would like to have an initial idea how to test them stepwise. So, if
> someone has some time and let me know how to go about it, will feel great.

Well, keep asking questions, and I'll see what I can do.

>
> Thanks,
>
> Som
>
> -
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RE: Hi All, What to do in the beginning

2001-06-15 Thread Stuart Skinner


Hi souyma

As far as i'm aware JMeter won't do this sort of thing for you. JMeter is
capable of showing how your application will scale under load but it will
give you little indication as to where bottelnecks that prevent scaling
occur. You should look into using a profiling tool such as OptimizeIt or
JProbe (possibly in conjunction with JMeter to load the system whilst
testing).

Stu


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Hi All, What to do in the beginning


How you all doing? I have pinpointed my requirements for now with Jmeter. I
gotto test Java applications(lets for now say its not an web app). For
example suppose a Java app is having n number of objects. How, by using
Jmeter I can understand which object is creating the bottleneck in the
entire app?
 
If somebody is giving me a testscript, pls. briefly explain how to connect
that with Jmeter and run. As I told earlier I am not very good in J2EE
technologies.I dont know XML. I will learn the relevant parts for testing
Jmeter.

Thanks and looking forward to hear.

Soumya Bhattacharyya




-Original Message-
From: Mike Stover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hi All, What to do in the beginning


On Tuesday 12 June 2001 14:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have been assigned to learn and use Jmeter for my corporation. Ultimate
> requirement is to test JMS framework as is the web services framework. I
am
> basically a TOOL developer who knows Java but is not very thourough in
J2EE
> stuff(just learning).
>
> I have gone thru the info that was available on the net about Jmeter. Its
> theoritically fine, but I think I need more info to start taking the first
> steps. For eg. I would like to do the following first :
>
> 1. Test a database

Ok, JMeter supports JDBC, but it's currently broken.  I haven't looked into 
the problem as I have no use for such database testing, but I would be glad 
to point you in the right direction.   Here, for example is a testscript
that 
demostrates how you would setup jmeter to test a database (you'll have to
sub 
in appropriate values - but load it first and change the values in JMeter):










root
192.168.1.1
mysql
org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver
root



1000
10



Sql Query
select * from tablename


Sql Query
select column1,column2 from table2 where 
column1='foo'























When this gets run, I think an error occurs (people out there have reported 
errors, I don't know if they've fixed them or not).

> 2. Test a java object

Not supported, but you could fairly easily write your own controllers to do 
it.  The tricky part comes in when you decide you want to write as few
custom 
controllers as possible to test as many different and varied objects as 
possible. 

> 3. Test a Servlet

As in HTTP testing?  JMeter does this pretty well.  Again, I could send you
a 
script to get you started.  Let me know if that's necessary.

>
> I would like to have an initial idea how to test them stepwise. So, if
> someone has some time and let me know how to go about it, will feel great.

Well, keep asking questions, and I'll see what I can do.

>
> Thanks,
>
> Som
>
> -
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> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Hi All, What to do in the beginning

2001-06-15 Thread Mike Stover

On Friday 15 June 2001 13:42, Stuart Skinner wrote:
> Hi souyma
>
> As far as i'm aware JMeter won't do this sort of thing for you. JMeter is
> capable of showing how your application will scale under load but it will
> give you little indication as to where bottelnecks that prevent scaling
> occur. You should look into using a profiling tool such as OptimizeIt or
> JProbe (possibly in conjunction with JMeter to load the system whilst
> testing).

This is correct.  I have used JMeter to load a system while running JProbe to 
find where bottlenecks were.  JMeter is perfect for that purpose.  However, 
JMeter currently only supports http, JDBC, and FTP (and somewhere I have SMTP 
classes lying around that I haven't merged yet).

However, if you can write java, it's not so hard to add your own classes to 
do new stuff.  You would have to write, at a minimum, a sampler (which does 
the actual calling of your java objects), a controller (which would hold 
configuration information and create Entry's to be "executed" by your 
sampler), and a GUI for your controller.  Most likely, you'd also have to 
create some ConfigElement classes for greater flexibility.  

It's not as hard as it sounds once you understand what a SamplerController 
does, and what a Sampler does.  Is this something you want to tackle?  If so, 
I'm willing to help.

-Mike


>
> Stu
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Hi All, What to do in the beginning
>
>
> How you all doing? I have pinpointed my requirements for now with Jmeter. I
> gotto test Java applications(lets for now say its not an web app). For
> example suppose a Java app is having n number of objects. How, by using
> Jmeter I can understand which object is creating the bottleneck in the
> entire app?
>
> If somebody is giving me a testscript, pls. briefly explain how to connect
> that with Jmeter and run. As I told earlier I am not very good in J2EE
> technologies.I dont know XML. I will learn the relevant parts for testing
> Jmeter.
>
> Thanks and looking forward to hear.
>
> Soumya Bhattacharyya
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Stover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Hi All, What to do in the beginning
>
> On Tuesday 12 June 2001 14:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have been assigned to learn and use Jmeter for my corporation. Ultimate
> > requirement is to test JMS framework as is the web services framework. I
>
> am
>
> > basically a TOOL developer who knows Java but is not very thourough in
>
> J2EE
>
> > stuff(just learning).
> >
> > I have gone thru the info that was available on the net about Jmeter. Its
> > theoritically fine, but I think I need more info to start taking the
> > first steps. For eg. I would like to do the following first :
> >
> > 1. Test a database
>
> Ok, JMeter supports JDBC, but it's currently broken.  I haven't looked into
> the problem as I have no use for such database testing, but I would be glad
> to point you in the right direction.   Here, for example is a testscript
> that
> demostrates how you would setup jmeter to test a database (you'll have to
> sub
> in appropriate values - but load it first and change the values in JMeter):
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  type="org.apache.jmeter.protocol.jdbc.control.JdbcTestSample"
> name="Database Testing">
> 
> 
> root
> 192.168.1.1
> mysql
> org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver
> root
> 
> 
> 
> 1000
> 10
> 
> 
> 
> Sql Query
> select * from tablename
> 
> 
> Sql Query
> select column1,column2 from table2 where
> column1='foo'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  name="Graph
>
> Results"/>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> When this gets run, I think an error occurs (people out there have reported
> errors, I don't know if they've fixed them or not).
>
> > 2. Test a java object
>
> Not supported, but you could fairly easily write your own controllers to do
> it.  The tricky part comes in when you decide you want to write as few
> custom
> controllers as possible to test as many different and varied objects as
> possible.
>
> > 3. Test a Servlet
>
> As in HTTP testing?  JMeter does this pretty well.  Again, I could send you
> a
> script to get you started.  Let me know if that's necessary.
>
> > I would like to have an initial idea how to test them stepwise. So, if
> > someone has some time and let me know how to go about it, will feel
> > great.
>
> Well, keep asking questions, and I'll see what I can do.
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Som
> >
> > -
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Hi All, What to do in the beginning

2001-06-15 Thread Soumyab

Thanks Mike & Stuart for your replies. So its pretty clear that
for the purpose of finding the bottle neck in an application we
need to load the app by Jmeter and use the Profiling tool for 
finding the bottleneck. 

So I will start loading a Java app with Jmeter. Yes, I can write 
Java classes. So, let me know where and what do I have to do to
understand how to write a sampler and samplercontroller. How does 
Jmeter help me in doing so? Can I subclass these from Jmeter and 
start writing my code?

Please give me a brief outline and I will start with this. in fact 
Mike has already done this JProbe+Jmeter thing. So I will need to
follow the steps. I couldnt get the JProbe licence. I got the OptimizeIt
licence though. So I will be usimg Jmeter+OptimizeIt.

Thanks again and keep writing,

Soumya(Som)


-Original Message-
From: Mike Stover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 9:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hi All, What to do in the beginning


On Friday 15 June 2001 13:42, Stuart Skinner wrote:
> Hi souyma
>
> As far as i'm aware JMeter won't do this sort of thing for you. JMeter is
> capable of showing how your application will scale under load but it will
> give you little indication as to where bottelnecks that prevent scaling
> occur. You should look into using a profiling tool such as OptimizeIt or
> JProbe (possibly in conjunction with JMeter to load the system whilst
> testing).

This is correct.  I have used JMeter to load a system while running JProbe
to 
find where bottlenecks were.  JMeter is perfect for that purpose.  However, 
JMeter currently only supports http, JDBC, and FTP (and somewhere I have
SMTP 
classes lying around that I haven't merged yet).

However, if you can write java, it's not so hard to add your own classes to 
do new stuff.  You would have to write, at a minimum, a sampler (which does 
the actual calling of your java objects), a controller (which would hold 
configuration information and create Entry's to be "executed" by your 
sampler), and a GUI for your controller.  Most likely, you'd also have to 
create some ConfigElement classes for greater flexibility.  

It's not as hard as it sounds once you understand what a SamplerController 
does, and what a Sampler does.  Is this something you want to tackle?  If
so, 
I'm willing to help.

-Mike


>
> Stu
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Hi All, What to do in the beginning
>
>
> How you all doing? I have pinpointed my requirements for now with Jmeter.
I
> gotto test Java applications(lets for now say its not an web app). For
> example suppose a Java app is having n number of objects. How, by using
> Jmeter I can understand which object is creating the bottleneck in the
> entire app?
>
> If somebody is giving me a testscript, pls. briefly explain how to connect
> that with Jmeter and run. As I told earlier I am not very good in J2EE
> technologies.I dont know XML. I will learn the relevant parts for testing
> Jmeter.
>
> Thanks and looking forward to hear.
>
> Soumya Bhattacharyya
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Stover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Hi All, What to do in the beginning
>
> On Tuesday 12 June 2001 14:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have been assigned to learn and use Jmeter for my corporation.
Ultimate
> > requirement is to test JMS framework as is the web services framework. I
>
> am
>
> > basically a TOOL developer who knows Java but is not very thourough in
>
> J2EE
>
> > stuff(just learning).
> >
> > I have gone thru the info that was available on the net about Jmeter.
Its
> > theoritically fine, but I think I need more info to start taking the
> > first steps. For eg. I would like to do the following first :
> >
> > 1. Test a database
>
> Ok, JMeter supports JDBC, but it's currently broken.  I haven't looked
into
> the problem as I have no use for such database testing, but I would be
glad
> to point you in the right direction.   Here, for example is a testscript
> that
> demostrates how you would setup jmeter to test a database (you'll have to
> sub
> in appropriate values - but load it first and change the values in
JMeter):
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  type="org.apache.jmeter.protocol.jdbc.control.JdbcTestSample"
> name="Database Testing">
> 
> 
> root
> 192.168.1.1
> mysql
> org.gjt.mm.mysql.Driver
> root
> 
> 
> 
> 1000
> 10
> 
> 
> 
> Sql Query
> select * from tablename
> 
> 
> Sql Query
> select column1,column2 from table2 where
> column1='foo'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  name="Graph
>
> Results"/>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> When this gets run, I think an error occurs (people out there have
reported
> errors, I don't know if they've fixed them or not).
>
> > 2. Test a java object
>
> Not supported, but you