Re: [Jmol-users] 10.2.0 application

2006-04-17 Thread Nicolas Vervelle



Brian Salter-Duke wrote:

On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:43:49PM -0400, Jules Moskowitz wrote:
  
I have been able to use jmol-10.00.45 as both and applet with a  
browser and as an application to look at some molecules from terminal  
(imacg5, OS 10.4).
I have been able to use jmol-10.2.0 with the browser but not as an  
application.


 When I go from the terminal to the jmol-10.2.0 folder and attempt  
to use the command jmol, I get:

tcsh: jmol: Command not found.



I had a similar problem on linux.

dos2unix < jmol > ttt
mv ttt jmol

fixed it.

Brian.
  

Thanks for the explanation.
Miguel is usually making the release on Unix system, I made it on Windows.

Nico




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Re: [Jmol-users] Google map fun: where are those Jmol users/developers?

2006-04-17 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 07:51:47PM +0200, Egon Willighagen wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I learned this weekend that setting up a Google map is very easy, so set up 
> one for Jmol too:
> 
>   http://jmol.sourceforge.net/maps/people/
> 
> If you would like to be added to this map, please send your name, URL (e.g. 
> you page in the Jmol wiki [1]) and longtitude and latitude, with four digits, 
> like 50.0563, to this mailing list.
> 
> Developers will have a red marker, users a yellow marker.

Great fun. I'm a user, -37.8283, 144.8811 (I think I have the sign
convention right) Melbourne Australia. Jmol wiki [[User:Bduke]]

Cheers, Brian.
 
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Re: [Jmol-users] Google map fun: where are those Jmol users/developers?

2006-04-17 Thread Alex Amies
I am a jmol user.  Lat and long is 33.7037,-117.7950http://www.medicalcomputing.net/endocrine.htmlAlex Amies
On 4/17/06, Egon Willighagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all,I learned this weekend that setting up a Google map is very easy, so set upone for Jmol too:  http://jmol.sourceforge.net/maps/people/
If you would like to be added to this map, please send your name, URL (e.g.you page in the Jmol wiki [1]) and longtitude and latitude, with four digits,like 50.0563, to this mailing list.Developers will have a red marker, users a yellow marker.
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Re: [Jmol-users] 10.2.0 application

2006-04-17 Thread Brian Salter-Duke
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:43:49PM -0400, Jules Moskowitz wrote:
> I have been able to use jmol-10.00.45 as both and applet with a  
> browser and as an application to look at some molecules from terminal  
> (imacg5, OS 10.4).
> I have been able to use jmol-10.2.0 with the browser but not as an  
> application.
> 
>  When I go from the terminal to the jmol-10.2.0 folder and attempt  
> to use the command jmol, I get:
> tcsh: jmol: Command not found.

I had a similar problem on linux.

dos2unix < jmol > ttt
mv ttt jmol

fixed it.

Brian.
 
> Both jmol and jmol.sh are executables as in 10.00.45.
> 
> Anybody know what I am doing wrong or is there a bug in jmol?
> 
> Professor Jules W. Moskowitz
> Chemistry Department
> New York University
> 100 Washington Square East
> New York, NY 10003-6688
> Phone: (212)998-8437
> Fax: (212) 260-7905
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

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Re: [Jmol-users] 10.2.0 application

2006-04-17 Thread Nicolas Vervelle



Egon Willighagen wrote:

On Monday 17 April 2006 20:43, Jules Moskowitz wrote:
  

Both jmol and jmol.sh are executables as in 10.00.45.

Anybody know what I am doing wrong or is there a bug in jmol?



Haven't checked wether the files are missing or not. But you can always do 
this:


java -jar Jmol.jar

from the command line in the dir where the Jmol.jar is located. This is what 
the shell script does too.


If they are missing, please file a bug report, so that we don't forgot to 
include them again in the bin distribs for the next release.
  

Files are in the release, so it's not the problem.

If you go in the jmol 10.2.0 folder, and execute the command  "./jmol", 
is there something different ?

What happens if you execute the command "which jmol"

Nico



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Re: [Jmol-users] 10.2.0 application

2006-04-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Monday 17 April 2006 20:43, Jules Moskowitz wrote:
> Both jmol and jmol.sh are executables as in 10.00.45.
>
> Anybody know what I am doing wrong or is there a bug in jmol?

Haven't checked wether the files are missing or not. But you can always do 
this:

java -jar Jmol.jar

from the command line in the dir where the Jmol.jar is located. This is what 
the shell script does too.

If they are missing, please file a bug report, so that we don't forgot to 
include them again in the bin distribs for the next release.

Egon

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[Jmol-users] 10.2.0 application

2006-04-17 Thread Jules Moskowitz
I have been able to use jmol-10.00.45 as both and applet with a browser and as an application to look at some molecules from terminal (imacg5, OS 10.4).I have been able to use jmol-10.2.0 with the browser but not as an application.  When I go from the terminal to the jmol-10.2.0 folder and attempt to use the command jmol, I get:tcsh: jmol: Command not found.Both jmol and jmol.sh are executables as in 10.00.45.Anybody know what I am doing wrong or is there a bug in jmol? Professor Jules W. Moskowitz Chemistry Department New York University 100 Washington Square East New York, NY 10003-6688 Phone: (212)998-8437 Fax: (212) 260-7905 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

[Jmol-users] Google map fun: where are those Jmol users/developers?

2006-04-17 Thread Egon Willighagen

Hi all, 

I learned this weekend that setting up a Google map is very easy, so set up 
one for Jmol too:

  http://jmol.sourceforge.net/maps/people/

If you would like to be added to this map, please send your name, URL (e.g. 
you page in the Jmol wiki [1]) and longtitude and latitude, with four digits, 
like 50.0563, to this mailing list.

Developers will have a red marker, users a yellow marker.

Egon

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol and mmCIF

2006-04-17 Thread rgb
On Mon, April 17, 2006 5:40 am, Egon Willighagen said:

> As long as the informat is split up
> over several data substructures, and one has to get those bits of
> information
> together, it does not really matter wether it is PDB, mmCIF or XML syntax.

This is true. CIF is an information exchange format and it is the reading
program's responsibility to fill its own data structures as needed from
the information in the CIF. This is why it is necessary to parse a
complete CIF and not make any assumptions (other than those inherent in
the (mm)CIF definitions) about where the data lie.

Rich


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[Jmol-users] hbond display in 10.2

2006-04-17 Thread William Reusch
I find that the "connect hbonds auto (*) (*)" script that enabled the 
hbond statements in Jmol 10.00.60, no longer has an effect in Jmol 
10.2.0.  How can one modify existing pages to display hydrogen bonds in 
10.2.0 ?


Bill


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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol and mmCIF

2006-04-17 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Monday 17 April 2006 11:20, Jaime Prilusky wrote:
> According to Eric Martz:
> > Several errors in PDB files were reported to RCSB recently. Often their
> > response is "it is fixed in the mmCIF". CIF is a burning issue for now
> > (for FirstGlance), but it is GREAT that Jmol will be able to read mmCIF
> > in future. Are you reporting the errors you found in mmCIF files to RCSB?
> > ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> There's more than one way of writing a valid mmCIF file, and RCSB is
> intermixing them. Probably the parsing problem you report is due to
> alternative mmCIF 'flavors'.
>
> What about parsing PDB's XML? These files (should) reflect all fixes and
> improvements from mmCIF files in an easy to parse XML format.  Structures
> in PDBML format are available from RCSB PDB website or ftp, and from OCA's
> mirrors http://bip.weizmann.ac.il/oca-bin/send-xml?1d66

I have looked at them earlier, and noted that while the syntax is 'easier' 
(i.e. XML based), it is really the data structure that is the problem.

I have not checked the files from the URL you gave, but the XMLs from pdb.org 
itself are really not easier to parse. As long as the informat is split up 
over several data substructures, and one has to get those bits of information 
together, it does not really matter wether it is PDB, mmCIF or XML syntax.

> The XML Schema for Exchange Data dictionary is available from
> http://pdbml.rcsb.org/schema/pdbx.xsd

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Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol and mmCIF

2006-04-17 Thread Jaime Prilusky
According to Eric Martz:
> Several errors in PDB files were reported to RCSB recently. Often their 
> response is "it is fixed in the mmCIF". CIF is a burning issue for now (for 
> FirstGlance), but it is GREAT that Jmol will be able to read mmCIF in future.
> Are you reporting the errors you found in mmCIF files to RCSB? ([EMAIL 
> PROTECTED])

There's more than one way of writing a valid mmCIF file, and RCSB is
intermixing them. Probably the parsing problem you report is due to
alternative mmCIF 'flavors'.

What about parsing PDB's XML? These files (should) reflect all fixes and 
improvements from mmCIF files in an easy to parse XML format.  Structures in 
PDBML format are available from RCSB PDB website or ftp, and from OCA's mirrors
http://bip.weizmann.ac.il/oca-bin/send-xml?1d66

The XML Schema for Exchange Data dictionary is available from
http://pdbml.rcsb.org/schema/pdbx.xsd

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