Re: [Jmol-users] Allow access to the following application
On 08/05/2014 06:50 PM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote: > Can anyone help with this mystery. > > If I open a web page using a properly signed Java applet (from Bob), I get > a dialog (OS X Mavericks, Safari, Java 7.67) which says > > Web site: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk > Application: UNKNOWN (why unknown, its properly signed!) > Publisher: UNKOWNN (no they are not! > Check box “Do not show this again for this app and web site” is checked > > The trouble is that this check box is entirely ignored. Next time the app > loads, up pops this dialog again. > If you want to see if this can be replicated, try it at > http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/cub2jvxl/ > > (PS using 14.0.1 for the above. 14.2.4 does not work with the file dialog > request to load a cube file from a local disk). > > By the way if I accidentally press “Do not allow” instead of “allow” the > site is entirely disabled permanently on that computer, and I cannot get it > to ever work again (despite browser cache purges, restarts, etc. ). If only > I knew where the file was which remembers this (accidentally entered) > information, I could delete it, but try as I might I cannot find it! Nor > does editing the Exception site list help either. > > Java, to quote Steve Jobs, is a bag of hurt, and hurting more and more. But > I need it to eg generate isosurfaces from (often 500 Mbyte) cube files. > You could try to look in Safari in the 'Security' tab of the 'Settings' dialog. After I allowed the applet from your example page your site appeared there in the list. On my MacBook (OS X Mavericks; Java &,67, first time installation) 'UNKNOWN' was replaced with the proper names in the dialogs for your Site. There was an extra dialog from Safari, asking for permission that the page 'http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/cub2jvxl/' can take control of the Jmol applet. I have never seen this before on Firefox or Chrome. I also got the same question for our own Jmol-based viewer (http://jena3d.fli-leibniz.de) using Jmol 14.0.5. But in contrast to your site I had to put our site first manually into the list under 'Settings->Security' until it was even tried to run Jmol. So it seems that at least in Safari it has become even more scary for a user to run a Java applet despite using a properly signed applet. Regards, Rolf -- Rolf Huehne Postdoc Leibniz Institute for Age Research - Fritz Lipmann Institute (FLI) Beutenbergstrasse 11 07745 Jena, Germany Phone: +49 3641 65 6205 Fax: +49 3641 65 6210 E-Mail: rhue...@fli-leibniz.de Website: http://www.fli-leibniz.de Scientific Director: Prof. Dr. K. Lenhard Rudolph Head of Administration: Dr. Daniele Barthel Chairman of Board of Trustees: Dennys Klein VAT No: DE 153 925 464 Register of Associations: No. 230296, Amtsgericht Jena Tax Number: 162/141/08228 -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Allow access to the following application
Hi Henry! I tried your page in my Win7 laptop. It loads fine, I got two regular Java dialogs asking for enabling the applet (one is a Java-style dialog, the other looks like coming from the browser), Both displayed name and signing information correctly. Jmol applet loaded quickly and I could load a file from my hard disk (a 2450-atoms pdb). It saved the XYZ file successfully. The applet is very slow responding to mouse rotation or zoom (if moves the model after a while, not while you interact). The CPU seems to be busy, at about 50%, maybe still calculating an isosurface? For an isosurface calculated in the app, it usually stays at 100% but finishes much more quickly. Finally I've killed the browser. -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Allow access to the following application
On 8/5/2014 1:06 PM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote: On 5 Aug 2014, at 18:01, Pshemak Maslak wrote: You may try the following: 1. uninstall all Java 2. delete all Java directories (I do not know where they are on OS X, but on Win they are within AppData and within users) with Oracle and Sun in the name (does OS X has a good search utility?) Non trivial. Despite the deceptively simple uninstall instructions on Oracle’s page, there are Java caches all over the place. And OS X does not search system files, only user files. I have tried doing this, but it has not yet worked for me. 3, reinstall Java These are probably "desperation" moves, but it MAY work on OS X too. PM Now I know why I do not like Mac's. You probably seen this already, but just in case: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/qa/qa1170/_index.html PM -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Allow access to the following application
You may try the following: 1. uninstall all Java 2. delete all Java directories (I do not know where they are on OS X, but on Win they are within AppData and within users) with Oracle and Sun in the name (does OS X has a good search utility?) 3, reinstall Java These are probably "desperation" moves, but it MAY work on OS X too. PM On 8/5/2014 12:50 PM, Rzepa, Henry S wrote: Can anyone help with this mystery. If I open a web page using a properly signed Java applet (from Bob), I get a dialog (OS X Mavericks, Safari, Java 7.67) which says Web site: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk Application: UNKNOWN (why unknown, its properly signed!) Publisher: UNKOWNN (no they are not! Check box "Do not show this again for this app and web site" is checked The trouble is that this check box is entirely ignored. Next time the app loads, up pops this dialog again. If you want to see if this can be replicated, try it at http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/cub2jvxl/ (PS using 14.0.1 for the above. 14.2.4 does not work with the file dialog request to load a cube file from a local disk). By the way if I accidentally press "Do not allow" instead of "allow" the site is entirely disabled permanently on that computer, and I cannot get it to ever work again (despite browser cache purges, restarts, etc. ). If only I knew where the file was which remembers this (accidentally entered) information, I could delete it, but try as I might I cannot find it! Nor does editing the Exception site list help either. Java, to quote Steve Jobs, is a bag of hurt, and hurting more and more. But I need it to eg generate isosurfaces from (often 500 Mbyte) cube files. -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Allow access to the following application
On 5 Aug 2014, at 18:01, Pshemak Maslak wrote: > You may try the following: > > 1. uninstall all Java > 2. delete all Java directories (I do not know where they are on OS X, but on > Win they are within AppData and within users) with Oracle and Sun in the name > (does OS X has a good search utility?) Non trivial. Despite the deceptively simple uninstall instructions on Oracle’s page, there are Java caches all over the place. And OS X does not search system files, only user files. I have tried doing this, but it has not yet worked for me. > 3, reinstall Java > > These are probably "desperation" moves, but it MAY work on OS X too. > > PM > > signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
[Jmol-users] Allow access to the following application
Can anyone help with this mystery. If I open a web page using a properly signed Java applet (from Bob), I get a dialog (OS X Mavericks, Safari, Java 7.67) which says Web site: http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk Application: UNKNOWN (why unknown, its properly signed!) Publisher: UNKOWNN (no they are not! Check box “Do not show this again for this app and web site” is checked The trouble is that this check box is entirely ignored. Next time the app loads, up pops this dialog again. If you want to see if this can be replicated, try it at http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/cub2jvxl/ (PS using 14.0.1 for the above. 14.2.4 does not work with the file dialog request to load a cube file from a local disk). By the way if I accidentally press “Do not allow” instead of “allow” the site is entirely disabled permanently on that computer, and I cannot get it to ever work again (despite browser cache purges, restarts, etc. ). If only I knew where the file was which remembers this (accidentally entered) information, I could delete it, but try as I might I cannot find it! Nor does editing the Exception site list help either. Java, to quote Steve Jobs, is a bag of hurt, and hurting more and more. But I need it to eg generate isosurfaces from (often 500 Mbyte) cube files. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Infragistics Professional Build stunning WinForms apps today! Reboot your WinForms applications with our WinForms controls. Build a bridge from your legacy apps to the future. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=153845071&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
