Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?

[Charles Harrison Shubert]

Hi Bob,

I guess I would have been surprised if a backdoor existed.  Thanks for thinking 
about this.

—Chuck

On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Robert Hanson 
mailto:hans...@stolaf.edu>> wrote:

PNGJ is not designed to save any settings other than those that are 
specifically necessary to define a state. So no user variables, no overall 
preferences. You could save a "message" in the state by using the message 
command, I suppose, but that would have to be a message that was visible to the 
user. Oh, and perhaps in some relatively unused variable such as

set nmrpredictformat "testing messages here"

This would be human- or machine-readable in the state associated with the PNGJ 
file if reopened by Jmol.

Although, come to think of it, I think I will remove that from the state. So 
don't consider this method supported!


Bob



On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alexander Rose 
mailto:alexander.r...@weirdbyte.de>> wrote:
Hi,

I am also quite interested in that.

> Can I save my app’s private UI state (preferences, etc) as a variable
> or static function in JSmol so that PNGJ will write it to the .png
> file?

As far as I know user defined variables or functions (from jmolscript)
are not saved within the Jmol state.

The idea I have in the back of my mind is to use a file format Jmol understands
and have my data (your private state) piggybacking in that file. May be as a
comment in some file or in a jmol script file. Though I have not tried anything
yet.

I would welcome a solution supported by Jmol itself.

> (I can imagine the user saving the PNGJ .png file to (say) a Google
> Drive repository.)
>
> Can I get the PNGJ output as as a JSON object to save in browser’s
> localStorage and use with a Jmol script “load …”?
> (I can imagine using the browser’s localStorage as a way for the user
> to pick up working on something that hadn’t yet been saved to (say)
> the Google Drive repository.
>

Apparently you can save blobs in localStorage [1]. YOu can of course also
save your private state in localStorage along side of the PNGJ but then you
do not have everything in a self-contained file.


Best
Alexander


[1] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/saving-images-and-files-in-localstorage/

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Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?

[Robert Hanson]

PNGJ is not designed to save any settings other than those that are
specifically necessary to define a state. So no user variables, no overall
preferences. You could save a "message" in the state by using the message
command, I suppose, but that would have to be a message that was visible to
the user. Oh, and perhaps in some relatively unused variable such as

set nmrpredictformat "testing messages here"

This would be human- or machine-readable in the state associated with the
PNGJ file if reopened by Jmol.

Although, come to think of it, I think I will remove that from the state.
So don't consider this method supported!


Bob



On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alexander Rose  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am also quite interested in that.
>
> > Can I save my app's private UI state (preferences, etc) as a variable
> > or static function in JSmol so that PNGJ will write it to the .png
> > file?
>
> As far as I know user defined variables or functions (from jmolscript)
> are not saved within the Jmol state.
>
> The idea I have in the back of my mind is to use a file format Jmol
> understands
> and have my data (your private state) piggybacking in that file. May be as
> a
> comment in some file or in a jmol script file. Though I have not tried
> anything
> yet.
>
> I would welcome a solution supported by Jmol itself.
>
> > (I can imagine the user saving the PNGJ .png file to (say) a Google
> > Drive repository.)
> >
> > Can I get the PNGJ output as as a JSON object to save in browser's
> > localStorage and use with a Jmol script "load ..."?
> > (I can imagine using the browser's localStorage as a way for the user
> > to pick up working on something that hadn't yet been saved to (say)
> > the Google Drive repository.
> >
>
> Apparently you can save blobs in localStorage [1]. YOu can of course also
> save your private state in localStorage along side of the PNGJ but then you
> do not have everything in a self-contained file.
>
>
> Best
> Alexander
>
>
> [1]
> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/saving-images-and-files-in-localstorage/
>
>
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Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?

[Alexander Rose]

Hi,

I am also quite interested in that.

> Can I save my app’s private UI state (preferences, etc) as a variable
> or static function in JSmol so that PNGJ will write it to the .png
> file?

As far as I know user defined variables or functions (from jmolscript) 
are not saved within the Jmol state.

The idea I have in the back of my mind is to use a file format Jmol understands
and have my data (your private state) piggybacking in that file. May be as a
comment in some file or in a jmol script file. Though I have not tried anything
yet.

I would welcome a solution supported by Jmol itself.

> (I can imagine the user saving the PNGJ .png file to (say) a Google
> Drive repository.)
> 
> Can I get the PNGJ output as as a JSON object to save in browser’s
> localStorage and use with a Jmol script “load …”?
> (I can imagine using the browser’s localStorage as a way for the user
> to pick up working on something that hadn’t yet been saved to (say)
> the Google Drive repository.
> 

Apparently you can save blobs in localStorage [1]. YOu can of course also
save your private state in localStorage along side of the PNGJ but then you
do not have everything in a self-contained file.


Best
Alexander


[1] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/saving-images-and-files-in-localstorage/

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Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?

[Charles Harrison Shubert]

Hi Bob and Paul,

Thanks for your replies (both are very helpful).

The PNGJ functionality looks great!

Can I save my app’s private UI state (preferences, etc) as a variable or static 
function in JSmol so that PNGJ will write it to the .png file?
(I can imagine the user saving the PNGJ .png file to (say) a Google Drive 
repository.)

Can I get the PNGJ output as as a JSON object to save in browser’s localStorage 
and use with a Jmol script “load …”?
(I can imagine using the browser’s localStorage as a way for the user to pick 
up working on something that hadn’t yet been saved to (say) the Google Drive 
repository.

Thanks,

—Chuck

On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Robert Hanson 
mailto:hans...@stolaf.edu>> wrote:

very best way is to have the user save a PNGJ file --

write PNGJ "?.png"

and then have them drag-drop it back into Jmol when they want to restore it.




On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Paul Pillot 
mailto:paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.fr>> wrote:
Hi Chuck,
have you tried « get property stateInfo » ? It should restore everything 
including orientation, zoom, etc…
Paul

Le 31 janv. 2014 à 16:32, Charles Harrison Shubert 
mailto:cshub...@mit.edu>> a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> When my users open my app, I'd like for JSmol to be in the same state that 
> they left it in. My users can generate quite a bit of JSmol script. 
> Currently, I'm using the browser's localStorage to store app state in a JSON 
> object.
>
> What would be the preferred way to extract JSmol state including rendering, 
> orientation, zoom, etc, to save for my user's next visit?  I can imagine 
> accumulating the user's JSmol script, saving it, and using it to restore 
> JSmol, but I'm not sure how to save the orientation.
>
> I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have on this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Chuck
>
>
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Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?

[Robert Hanson]

very best way is to have the user save a PNGJ file --

write PNGJ "?.png"

and then have them drag-drop it back into Jmol when they want to restore it.




On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Paul Pillot <
paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.fr> wrote:

> Hi Chuck,
> have you tried << get property stateInfo >> ? It should restore everything
> including orientation, zoom, etc...
> Paul
>
> Le 31 janv. 2014 à 16:32, Charles Harrison Shubert  a
> écrit :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > When my users open my app, I'd like for JSmol to be in the same state
> that they left it in. My users can generate quite a bit of JSmol script.
> Currently, I'm using the browser's localStorage to store app state in a
> JSON object.
> >
> > What would be the preferred way to extract JSmol state including
> rendering, orientation, zoom, etc, to save for my user's next visit?  I can
> imagine accumulating the user's JSmol script, saving it, and using it to
> restore JSmol, but I'm not sure how to save the orientation.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have on this.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --Chuck
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?

[Paul Pillot]

Hi Chuck,
have you tried « get property stateInfo » ? It should restore everything 
including orientation, zoom, etc…
Paul

Le 31 janv. 2014 à 16:32, Charles Harrison Shubert  a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> When my users open my app, I'd like for JSmol to be in the same state that 
> they left it in. My users can generate quite a bit of JSmol script. 
> Currently, I'm using the browser's localStorage to store app state in a JSON 
> object.
> 
> What would be the preferred way to extract JSmol state including rendering, 
> orientation, zoom, etc, to save for my user's next visit?  I can imagine 
> accumulating the user's JSmol script, saving it, and using it to restore 
> JSmol, but I'm not sure how to save the orientation.
> 
> I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have on this.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --Chuck
> 
> 
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[Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?

[Charles Harrison Shubert]

Hi,

When my users open my app, I'd like for JSmol to be in the same state that they 
left it in. My users can generate quite a bit of JSmol script. Currently, I'm 
using the browser's localStorage to store app state in a JSON object.

What would be the preferred way to extract JSmol state including rendering, 
orientation, zoom, etc, to save for my user's next visit?  I can imagine 
accumulating the user's JSmol script, saving it, and using it to restore JSmol, 
but I'm not sure how to save the orientation.

I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have on this.

Thanks,

--Chuck

  
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