Re: [Jmol-users] feedback appreciated
Bob wrote: > > maybe the bottom 2%? The bottom holds the frank, that could produce some inferference. That's why I proposed the top. Egon wrote: > And I assume the area would 'highlight' a bit when I am in the right > spot, as visual feedback? A bit less black than black, a bit less > white than white, or so? Or always a bit more yellowish? Just to get a > good feeling for that 2%? We must account for diverse background colors. If feasible, maybe something similar to the old translucency, i.e. a mask with white dots (or black, depending on the color, as it is done eg for lables and frank). Tom wrote: > This is great -- really lovely! (When is Jmol coming to the > iPhone?!) :) Is Java VM on the iPhone already? That's the key I guess. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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yeah, I'll say! Go figure. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Thomas Stout wrote: > > This is great -- really lovely! (When is Jmol coming to the iPhone?!) :) > > One oddity that I noticed: when I induce a rotation via a swipe, it > continues (as expected) until my screensaver comes on --- when the display > is re-awakened, the display is static. Not an issue, as far as I am > concerned, but I thought it fell into the realm of "unexpected". > > -Tom > > PS -- Firefox 3.0.14 under RHEL5 (32bit on a 64bit machine) > > > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: > >> OK, please take another look at >> http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm >> I think I fixed the right-side zoom business, and because I thought was >> working so well, I opted to leave it in as default Jmol, not a special >> action. The cursor changes to a vertical zoom cursor when you move the mouse >> into the area. If you then press the left button and drag, you get a zoom, >> without regard to where you are in the window. >> >> The wheel business should be fixed as well. (Please check that I do not >> have that backwards.) >> >> >> -- >> Robert M. Hanson >> Professor of Chemistry >> St. Olaf College >> 1520 St. Olaf Ave. >> Northfield, MN 55057 >> http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr >> phone: 507-786-3107 >> >> >> If nature does not answer first what we want, >> it is better to take what answer we get. >> >> -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 >> >> >> -- >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >> 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus >> on >> what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with >> Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july >> ___ >> Jmol-users mailing list >> Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users >> >> > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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This is great -- really lovely! (When is Jmol coming to the iPhone?!) :) One oddity that I noticed: when I induce a rotation via a swipe, it continues (as expected) until my screensaver comes on --- when the display is re-awakened, the display is static. Not an issue, as far as I am concerned, but I thought it fell into the realm of "unexpected". -Tom PS -- Firefox 3.0.14 under RHEL5 (32bit on a 64bit machine) On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: > OK, please take another look at > http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm > I think I fixed the right-side zoom business, and because I thought was > working so well, I opted to leave it in as default Jmol, not a special > action. The cursor changes to a vertical zoom cursor when you move the mouse > into the area. If you then press the left button and drag, you get a zoom, > without regard to where you are in the window. > > The wheel business should be fixed as well. (Please check that I do not > have that backwards.) > > > -- > Robert M. Hanson > Professor of Chemistry > St. Olaf College > 1520 St. Olaf Ave. > Northfield, MN 55057 > http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr > phone: 507-786-3107 > > > If nature does not answer first what we want, > it is better to take what answer we get. > > -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > > -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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Nice!
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Robert Hanson wrote:
> function testit {
>
> print _atomPicked
>
> }
>
> set pickCallback "jmolscript:testit";
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function testit {
print _atomPicked
}
set pickCallback "jmolscript:testit";
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Egon Willighagen <
egon.willigha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Robert Hanson
> wrote:
> > Hmm, I was thinking more along the lines of within a certain area of the
> > window. You can always trap a pickCallback for atoms.
>
> True. I did not think of it that this could be done on a purely Jmol
> script level too... how does that work?
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: > Hmm, I was thinking more along the lines of within a certain area of the > window. You can always trap a pickCallback for atoms. True. I did not think of it that this could be done on a purely Jmol script level too... how does that work? Egon -- Post-doc @ Uppsala University Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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Hmm, I was thinking more along the lines of within a certain area of the window. You can always trap a pickCallback for atoms. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Egon Willighagen < egon.willigha...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Robert Hanson > wrote: > > Why not just make it anywhere you want? any function? > > Say, on top/around of a certain atom, bond or secondairy structure? > > Egon > > > -- > Post-doc @ Uppsala University > Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ > Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ > PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Robert Hanson wrote: > Why not just make it anywhere you want? any function? Say, on top/around of a certain atom, bond or secondairy structure? Egon -- Post-doc @ Uppsala University Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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Why not just make it anywhere you want? any function? On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Egon Willighagen < egon.willigha...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jeff Hansen wrote: > > Lets just go extreme with this. Make every side of the applet available > for > > adjusting something. I could see zoom, Z-rotation, slab, atom size. Why > > not just make it configurable so a little javascript or Jmol script can > > assign a property to a particular side and we can adjust whatever we want > to > > adjust? Kind of a built in slider. > > And I assume the area would 'highlight' a bit when I am in the right > spot, as visual feedback? A bit less black than black, a bit less > white than white, or so? Or always a bit more yellowish? Just to get a > good feeling for that 2%? > > Egon > > -- > Post-doc @ Uppsala University > Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ > Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ > PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jeff Hansen wrote: > Lets just go extreme with this. Make every side of the applet available for > adjusting something. I could see zoom, Z-rotation, slab, atom size. Why > not just make it configurable so a little javascript or Jmol script can > assign a property to a particular side and we can adjust whatever we want to > adjust? Kind of a built in slider. And I assume the area would 'highlight' a bit when I am in the right spot, as visual feedback? A bit less black than black, a bit less white than white, or so? Or always a bit more yellowish? Just to get a good feeling for that 2%? Egon -- Post-doc @ Uppsala University Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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Lets just go extreme with this. Make every side of the applet available for adjusting something. I could see zoom, Z-rotation, slab, atom size. Why not just make it configurable so a little javascript or Jmol script can assign a property to a particular side and we can adjust whatever we want to adjust? Kind of a built in slider. *** Jeff Hansen Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry DePauw University 602 S. College Ave. Greencastle, IN 46135 jhan...@depauw.edu *** On Nov 18, 2009, at 4:12 PM, Robert Hanson wrote: maybe the bottom 2%? 2009/11/18 Angel Herráez On 18 Nov 2009 at 13:17, Robert Hanson wrote: > OK, please take another look at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm Nice! This brings an idea: how about having also the 6% top of the applet do Z-rotation? It's often difficult to do that by shift-horizDrag without changing zoom (yes, I know there are specific ways of doing just Zrot, but I never remember or care to) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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maybe the bottom 2%? 2009/11/18 Angel Herráez > On 18 Nov 2009 at 13:17, Robert Hanson wrote: > > OK, please take another look at > http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm > > > Nice! > This brings an idea: how about having also the 6% top of the applet do > Z-rotation? It's often > difficult to do that by shift-horizDrag without changing zoom (yes, I know > there are specific > ways of doing just Zrot, but I never remember or care to) > > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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On 18 Nov 2009 at 13:17, Robert Hanson wrote: > OK, please take another look at > http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm Nice! This brings an idea: how about having also the 6% top of the applet do Z-rotation? It's often difficult to do that by shift-horizDrag without changing zoom (yes, I know there are specific ways of doing just Zrot, but I never remember or care to) -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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OK, please take another look at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm I think I fixed the right-side zoom business, and because I thought was working so well, I opted to leave it in as default Jmol, not a special action. The cursor changes to a vertical zoom cursor when you move the mouse into the area. If you then press the left button and drag, you get a zoom, without regard to where you are in the window. The wheel business should be fixed as well. (Please check that I do not have that backwards.) -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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Thanks, Rolf. Quite possible about the wheel -- I didn't test this. swipe -- I probably didn't explain that correctly. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Rolf Huehne wrote: > > > > swipe -- with a finger this is a rapid movement that releases as it > > terminates. With a mouse, it's a LEFT-button action for which the button > is > > released BEFORE the motion stops. (Takes some getting used to.) This > gesture > > produces a sort of Google-Earth action that starts the model spinning at > a > > speed that depends upon the speed of the swipe. > > > I wasn't able to start spinning this way. Even separating mouse movement > and button click by using two hands to ensure continuous movement after > releasing the button didn't help. > > hmm... > > zoom-slider -- with set allowGestures TRUE, you can now just treat the > > screen as a touchpad and scroll through zooms just be doing a vertical > > LEFT-drag within a few percent of the right side of the applet window. > > > Principally it might be useful as an alternative. But I think zooming > should not be mixed with rotation and vice versa. Currently zooming > starts for example additionally after the mouse leaves the applet at the > right side. And also rotation starts additionally after the mouse leaves > the applet at the right side. Or rotation replaces zoom if the mouse > leaves the "zoom zone" to the left side. (Since there is no visible > border of the "zoom zone" and since it is very small this happened very > frequently during my tests.) This makes zooming and rotation rather > unpredictable and uncontrollable. > > right -- I'll see what I can do about that. > The "zoom zone" is quite narrow in the small test applet. So it is > difficult to actually hit it with the mouse. It would be helpful if the > mouse cursor would already change after reaching the zone and not only > after pressing the mouse button. This might also help novice users to > find this feature if it is activated. > > I'll make the cursor move and decouple it from rotation. > On my system the mouse wheel didn't work any more within Jmol. (Although > it did work in another window with an older Jmol version (11.8.8) opened > in parallel.) I had sometimes trouble to activate zooming with the mouse > wheel before, but mainly on Windows and not on Linux. And most of the > time I could finally get it to work after doing some clicking within the > applet. ( I don't remember the details right now.) But here I could not > get it to work. > > quite possible -- I didn't test this. > Test system > - > OS: OpenSuSE 11.1 (x86_64) > Java: 1.6.0_15 > Browser: Firefox 3.0.15 > > Regards, > Rolf > > > -- > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ___ > Jmol-users mailing list > Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users > -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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> set allowGestures Sounds interesting, Bob I wasn't very enthusiastic about swipe, but now I like it! It's very smooth and easy to control. > are related to giving Jmol a "multi-touch" feel No chance to test this. > zoom-slider -- with set allowGestures TRUE, you can now just treat > the screen as a touchpad and scroll through zooms just be doing a > vertical LEFT-drag within a few percent of the right side of the > applet window. I agree with Rolf it's very narrow. A little translucent shadow would help to locate the hot zone, as well as the cursor change. > but that requires a multi-touch screen, which I don't have yet.) I put my eyes on a multi-touch TABLE [1], but I don't think I'll get it. Maybe Santa Claus... :-D Great work, as always, Bob! [1] - http://wiki.jmol.org/index.php?title=MultiUser_Jmol -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
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Robert Hanson wrote: > Jmol users, > > Jmol 11.9.9 will have a couple of mouse-related new features. One that > should be useful is > > show mouse > > or > > show mouse [keyword] > > such as > > show mouse move > > or > > show mouse pick > > These return information about what the mouse buttons do. > Very nice. > In addition, because underneath the surface Jmol is now completely changed > in how it handles mouse events, in the future you will be able to assign > button/key combinations to all sorts of actions. Two new actions that can be > assigned using > > set allowGestures > > are related to giving Jmol a "multi-touch" feel -- on certain machines being > able to use two or more fingers to direct the application. These include: > > swipe -- with a finger this is a rapid movement that releases as it > terminates. With a mouse, it's a LEFT-button action for which the button is > released BEFORE the motion stops. (Takes some getting used to.) This gesture > produces a sort of Google-Earth action that starts the model spinning at a > speed that depends upon the speed of the swipe. > I wasn't able to start spinning this way. Even separating mouse movement and button click by using two hands to ensure continuous movement after releasing the button didn't help. > zoom-slider -- with set allowGestures TRUE, you can now just treat the > screen as a touchpad and scroll through zooms just be doing a vertical > LEFT-drag within a few percent of the right side of the applet window. > Principally it might be useful as an alternative. But I think zooming should not be mixed with rotation and vice versa. Currently zooming starts for example additionally after the mouse leaves the applet at the right side. And also rotation starts additionally after the mouse leaves the applet at the right side. Or rotation replaces zoom if the mouse leaves the "zoom zone" to the left side. (Since there is no visible border of the "zoom zone" and since it is very small this happened very frequently during my tests.) This makes zooming and rotation rather unpredictable and uncontrollable. The "zoom zone" is quite narrow in the small test applet. So it is difficult to actually hit it with the mouse. It would be helpful if the mouse cursor would already change after reaching the zone and not only after pressing the mouse button. This might also help novice users to find this feature if it is activated. On my system the mouse wheel didn't work any more within Jmol. (Although it did work in another window with an older Jmol version (11.8.8) opened in parallel.) I had sometimes trouble to activate zooming with the mouse wheel before, but mainly on Windows and not on Linux. And most of the time I could finally get it to work after doing some clicking within the applet. ( I don't remember the details right now.) But here I could not get it to work. Test system - OS: OpenSuSE 11.1 (x86_64) Java: 1.6.0_15 Browser: Firefox 3.0.15 Regards, Rolf -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
[Jmol-users] feedback appreciated
Jmol users, Jmol 11.9.9 will have a couple of mouse-related new features. One that should be useful is show mouse or show mouse [keyword] such as show mouse move or show mouse pick These return information about what the mouse buttons do. In addition, because underneath the surface Jmol is now completely changed in how it handles mouse events, in the future you will be able to assign button/key combinations to all sorts of actions. Two new actions that can be assigned using set allowGestures are related to giving Jmol a "multi-touch" feel -- on certain machines being able to use two or more fingers to direct the application. These include: swipe -- with a finger this is a rapid movement that releases as it terminates. With a mouse, it's a LEFT-button action for which the button is released BEFORE the motion stops. (Takes some getting used to.) This gesture produces a sort of Google-Earth action that starts the model spinning at a speed that depends upon the speed of the swipe. zoom-slider -- with set allowGestures TRUE, you can now just treat the screen as a touchpad and scroll through zooms just be doing a vertical LEFT-drag within a few percent of the right side of the applet window. Give these a try at http://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/docs/examples-11/new.htm and tell me what you think. More ideas for cool gestures? (I'm working on "pinch" and "stretch" to zoom out/in, like an iPod, but that requires a multi-touch screen, which I don't have yet.) Bob -- Robert M. Hanson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College 1520 St. Olaf Ave. Northfield, MN 55057 http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr phone: 507-786-3107 If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
