Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?
PNGJ is not designed to save any settings other than those that are specifically necessary to define a state. So no user variables, no overall preferences. You could save a message in the state by using the message command, I suppose, but that would have to be a message that was visible to the user. Oh, and perhaps in some relatively unused variable such as set nmrpredictformat testing messages here This would be human- or machine-readable in the state associated with the PNGJ file if reopened by Jmol. Although, come to think of it, I think I will remove that from the state. So don't consider this method supported! Bob On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alexander Rose alexander.r...@weirdbyte.de wrote: Hi, I am also quite interested in that. Can I save my app's private UI state (preferences, etc) as a variable or static function in JSmol so that PNGJ will write it to the .png file? As far as I know user defined variables or functions (from jmolscript) are not saved within the Jmol state. The idea I have in the back of my mind is to use a file format Jmol understands and have my data (your private state) piggybacking in that file. May be as a comment in some file or in a jmol script file. Though I have not tried anything yet. I would welcome a solution supported by Jmol itself. (I can imagine the user saving the PNGJ .png file to (say) a Google Drive repository.) Can I get the PNGJ output as as a JSON object to save in browser's localStorage and use with a Jmol script load ...? (I can imagine using the browser's localStorage as a way for the user to pick up working on something that hadn't yet been saved to (say) the Google Drive repository. Apparently you can save blobs in localStorage [1]. YOu can of course also save your private state in localStorage along side of the PNGJ but then you do not have everything in a self-contained file. Best Alexander [1] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/saving-images-and-files-in-localstorage/ -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?
Hi Bob, I guess I would have been surprised if a backdoor existed. Thanks for thinking about this. —Chuck On Feb 5, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edumailto:hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: PNGJ is not designed to save any settings other than those that are specifically necessary to define a state. So no user variables, no overall preferences. You could save a message in the state by using the message command, I suppose, but that would have to be a message that was visible to the user. Oh, and perhaps in some relatively unused variable such as set nmrpredictformat testing messages here This would be human- or machine-readable in the state associated with the PNGJ file if reopened by Jmol. Although, come to think of it, I think I will remove that from the state. So don't consider this method supported! Bob On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Alexander Rose alexander.r...@weirdbyte.demailto:alexander.r...@weirdbyte.de wrote: Hi, I am also quite interested in that. Can I save my app’s private UI state (preferences, etc) as a variable or static function in JSmol so that PNGJ will write it to the .png file? As far as I know user defined variables or functions (from jmolscript) are not saved within the Jmol state. The idea I have in the back of my mind is to use a file format Jmol understands and have my data (your private state) piggybacking in that file. May be as a comment in some file or in a jmol script file. Though I have not tried anything yet. I would welcome a solution supported by Jmol itself. (I can imagine the user saving the PNGJ .png file to (say) a Google Drive repository.) Can I get the PNGJ output as as a JSON object to save in browser’s localStorage and use with a Jmol script “load …”? (I can imagine using the browser’s localStorage as a way for the user to pick up working on something that hadn’t yet been saved to (say) the Google Drive repository. Apparently you can save blobs in localStorage [1]. YOu can of course also save your private state in localStorage along side of the PNGJ but then you do not have everything in a self-contained file. Best Alexander [1] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/saving-images-and-files-in-localstorage/ -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?
Hi Bob and Paul, Thanks for your replies (both are very helpful). The PNGJ functionality looks great! Can I save my app’s private UI state (preferences, etc) as a variable or static function in JSmol so that PNGJ will write it to the .png file? (I can imagine the user saving the PNGJ .png file to (say) a Google Drive repository.) Can I get the PNGJ output as as a JSON object to save in browser’s localStorage and use with a Jmol script “load …”? (I can imagine using the browser’s localStorage as a way for the user to pick up working on something that hadn’t yet been saved to (say) the Google Drive repository. Thanks, —Chuck On Feb 1, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Robert Hanson hans...@stolaf.edumailto:hans...@stolaf.edu wrote: very best way is to have the user save a PNGJ file -- write PNGJ ?.png and then have them drag-drop it back into Jmol when they want to restore it. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Paul Pillot paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.frmailto:paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.fr wrote: Hi Chuck, have you tried « get property stateInfo » ? It should restore everything including orientation, zoom, etc… Paul Le 31 janv. 2014 à 16:32, Charles Harrison Shubert cshub...@mit.edumailto:cshub...@mit.edu a écrit : Hi, When my users open my app, I'd like for JSmol to be in the same state that they left it in. My users can generate quite a bit of JSmol script. Currently, I'm using the browser's localStorage to store app state in a JSON object. What would be the preferred way to extract JSmol state including rendering, orientation, zoom, etc, to save for my user's next visit? I can imagine accumulating the user's JSmol script, saving it, and using it to restore JSmol, but I'm not sure how to save the orientation. I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have on this. Thanks, --Chuck -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.netmailto:Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?
Hi, I am also quite interested in that. Can I save my app’s private UI state (preferences, etc) as a variable or static function in JSmol so that PNGJ will write it to the .png file? As far as I know user defined variables or functions (from jmolscript) are not saved within the Jmol state. The idea I have in the back of my mind is to use a file format Jmol understands and have my data (your private state) piggybacking in that file. May be as a comment in some file or in a jmol script file. Though I have not tried anything yet. I would welcome a solution supported by Jmol itself. (I can imagine the user saving the PNGJ .png file to (say) a Google Drive repository.) Can I get the PNGJ output as as a JSON object to save in browser’s localStorage and use with a Jmol script “load …”? (I can imagine using the browser’s localStorage as a way for the user to pick up working on something that hadn’t yet been saved to (say) the Google Drive repository. Apparently you can save blobs in localStorage [1]. YOu can of course also save your private state in localStorage along side of the PNGJ but then you do not have everything in a self-contained file. Best Alexander [1] https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/02/saving-images-and-files-in-localstorage/ -- Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. Read the Whitepaper. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?
very best way is to have the user save a PNGJ file -- write PNGJ ?.png and then have them drag-drop it back into Jmol when they want to restore it. On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Paul Pillot paul.pil...@ac-orleans-tours.fr wrote: Hi Chuck, have you tried get property stateInfo ? It should restore everything including orientation, zoom, etc... Paul Le 31 janv. 2014 à 16:32, Charles Harrison Shubert cshub...@mit.edu a écrit : Hi, When my users open my app, I'd like for JSmol to be in the same state that they left it in. My users can generate quite a bit of JSmol script. Currently, I'm using the browser's localStorage to store app state in a JSON object. What would be the preferred way to extract JSmol state including rendering, orientation, zoom, etc, to save for my user's next visit? I can imagine accumulating the user's JSmol script, saving it, and using it to restore JSmol, but I'm not sure how to save the orientation. I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have on this. Thanks, --Chuck -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- Robert M. Hanson Larson-Anderson Professor of Chemistry St. Olaf College Northfield, MN http://www.stolaf.edu/people/hansonr If nature does not answer first what we want, it is better to take what answer we get. -- Josiah Willard Gibbs, Lecture XXX, Monday, February 5, 1900 -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
Re: [Jmol-users] Question: What is the preferred way to save JSmol state and orientation?
Hi Chuck, have you tried « get property stateInfo » ? It should restore everything including orientation, zoom, etc… Paul Le 31 janv. 2014 à 16:32, Charles Harrison Shubert cshub...@mit.edu a écrit : Hi, When my users open my app, I'd like for JSmol to be in the same state that they left it in. My users can generate quite a bit of JSmol script. Currently, I'm using the browser's localStorage to store app state in a JSON object. What would be the preferred way to extract JSmol state including rendering, orientation, zoom, etc, to save for my user's next visit? I can imagine accumulating the user's JSmol script, saving it, and using it to restore JSmol, but I'm not sure how to save the orientation. I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have on this. Thanks, --Chuck -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users -- WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key security issues and trends. Skip the complicated setup - simply import a virtual appliance and go from zero to informed in seconds. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=123612991iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Jmol-users mailing list Jmol-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jmol-users
